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Title: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 14, 2014, 11:51:49 AM
Sugar-free Gummy Bears (http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/product-reviews/B000EVQWKC/ref=pr_all_summary_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: NE2 on January 14, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
shit (and die)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: US71 on January 14, 2014, 12:33:49 PM
Instant Karma Chili
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: corco on January 14, 2014, 12:38:22 PM
Food you find in your glovebox or between the seats that you cant quite remember how it got there
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: formulanone on January 14, 2014, 12:42:51 PM
Watermelon, while driving.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: corco on January 14, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
On that note- chocolate iced donuts on a warm day
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 12:58:17 PM
Sauerkraut and baked bean burrito
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
Wendy's
Taco Bell
Krystal's
Basically anything that makes you shit.
The only food I can count on to not do that is Subway; therefore, that's the only thing I can eat when on a roadtrip.
I will eat other stuff in the evening when I'm headed to the hotel.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 14, 2014, 12:42:51 PM
Watermelon, while driving.

on that note: lobster, while driving.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: NE2 on January 14, 2014, 01:30:52 PM
on that note: casu marzu, ever.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Takumi on January 14, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Just the thought of casu marzu makes me nauseous.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on January 14, 2014, 02:34:13 PM
Truck stop hookers
Gas station hotdogs
Babies
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: corco on January 14, 2014, 02:35:38 PM
What about delicious baby cows?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 14, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 14, 2014, 11:51:49 AM
Sugar-free Gummy Bears (http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/product-reviews/B000EVQWKC/ref=pr_all_summary_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending)

If you haven't clicked on the link yet, just do it. And prepare to replace your keyboard if you're drinking a beverage when you do so.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alex on January 14, 2014, 03:06:53 PM
seafood in Enid, Oklahoma.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brandon on January 14, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 14, 2014, 11:51:49 AM
Sugar-free Gummy Bears (http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/product-reviews/B000EVQWKC/ref=pr_all_summary_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending)

I love this one,

QuoteIdeal Gift For Your Congressional Representatives

Must be really terrible.

And, pertaining to another thread here,

QuoteHope no one was stuck on the GW Bridge last September after eating this stuff
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: algorerhythms on January 14, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 14, 2014, 03:06:53 PM
seafood in Enid, Oklahoma.
To quote Hank from Breaking Bad, "Two days' drive from the ocean and you're eating raw fish!?"
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: oscar on January 14, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
on that note: lobster, while driving.

Especially not the McLobster sandwich McDonald's has tried out in some markets, including but not limited to Canada's Maritime Provinces.  Really sloppy, lots of (pseudo-)lobster dripping into your lap if you try to eat it behind the wheel.  Same goes for the lobster rolls you can get at roadside vendors along the Maine coast, but at least those are good enough for you to stop and eat them at a picnic table. 
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: oscar on January 14, 2014, 04:01:48 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 14, 2014, 03:06:53 PM
seafood in Enid, Oklahoma.

Or even in Valdez, Alaska -- a fishing port where I somehow got served frozen fish on my 1994 visit.  Ugh.  (But I at least scored on that trip an Exxon Valdez postcard to mail back to the office.) 
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: renegade on January 14, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
... Basically anything that makes you shit.
The only food I can count on to not do that is Subway; therefore, that's the only thing I can eat when on a roadtrip.
I will eat other stuff in the evening when I'm headed to the hotel.

False.  I ate once at a Subway in Gaylord Michigan.  After resuming my trip north on I-75, the ole bowels started rumblin'.  We were more than a few miles from the next rest area. ("Please, Jesus ... just ten more miles!").  :wow:  It was a long time before I ate at Subway again.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on January 14, 2014, 04:41:56 PM
Back in the 1990s I once ate a Hardee's Monsterburger while driving on I-95 near Petersburg, Virginia, on my way home for a school break. At least it was late at night, no traffic, so I was able to set the cruise control and hold the steering wheel with my knees.

I don't like mayo, so I had them delete that one item.

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Nowadays I do not allow eating in the car and I will not even go through the drive-thru to get food to take home. If I want fast food to go, I go inside and then I put the bag in the trunk.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brandon on January 14, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 14, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
... Basically anything that makes you shit.
The only food I can count on to not do that is Subway; therefore, that's the only thing I can eat when on a roadtrip.
I will eat other stuff in the evening when I'm headed to the hotel.

False.  I ate once at a Subway in Gaylord Michigan.  After resuming my trip north on I-75, the ole bowels started rumblin'.  We were more than a few miles from the next rest area. ("Please, Jesus ... just ten more miles!").  :wow:  It was a long time before I ate at Subway again.

Sounds like my experience with Panda Express.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
I had a bad experience with a KFC buffet in Arkansas many years ago. I was riding with my mother to TN. After eating at the buffet, we stopped at a nearby gas station. There were several people in the parking lot selling watermelons. After getting what we needed, we were In the car about to pull out onto the street. At that time I suddenly had gas. I got out of the car to fart, and it was so loud that the watermelon sellers all heard it. We got back on the freeway, but had to get off the very next exit so I could use the bathroom at Love's.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on January 14, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
I had a bad experience with a KFC buffet in Arkansas many years ago. I was riding with my mother to TN. After eating at the buffet, we stopped at a nearby gas station. There were several people in the parking lot selling watermelons. After getting what we needed, we were In the car about to pull out onto the street. At that time I suddenly had gas. I got out of the car to fart, and it was so loud that the watermelon sellers all heard it. We got back on the freeway, but had to get off the very next exit so I could use the bathroom at Love's.

My bad experience with a KFC buffet came in the fall of 1993 when one of my roommates and I went down to Williamsburg to visit my brother at William & Mary. We went out to KFC, all ate way too much, then went back to the dorm and drank too much. We then headed to a party and en route my brother and my roommate decided to streak the Sunken Gardens, at which point one of our friends stole their clothes....meanwhile, as said theft was in progress, a group of girls we'd all known in high school came along not knowing what was going on. I was already laughing my arse off and when the streakers returned, my brother stood there yelling at the top of his lungs wanting his clothes back while my roommate just sat down on the sidewalk to sulk, making us all laugh even more....at which point way too much greasy KFC, tequila, rum, and beer finally did a number on my stomach and I proceeded to barf it all up (at least I managed to use a nearby trashcan), followed by a trip into the nearest dorm (which turned out to be an all-girls' dorm) to find a restroom to rinse out the vomit taste from my mouth.

For some dumb reason we went to that party anyway....William & Mary's version of "SoberRide" (or whatever you want to call it) wound up being called that night to get us back to my brother's dorm.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lobster rolls
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hotdogPi on January 14, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lobster rolls

Lobsters don't roll.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: US71 on January 14, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lobster rolls

Lobsters don't roll.

But some rock ;)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on January 14, 2014, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 14, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 14, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
... Basically anything that makes you shit.
The only food I can count on to not do that is Subway; therefore, that's the only thing I can eat when on a roadtrip.
I will eat other stuff in the evening when I'm headed to the hotel.

False.  I ate once at a Subway in Gaylord Michigan.  After resuming my trip north on I-75, the ole bowels started rumblin'.  We were more than a few miles from the next rest area. ("Please, Jesus ... just ten more miles!").  :wow:  It was a long time before I ate at Subway again.

Sounds like my experience with Panda Express.

I love me some Panda Express. It's the best Americanized fake Chinese food on the market.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: vdeane on January 14, 2014, 09:47:26 PM
DiCastro's skillet macaroni and cheese

Let's just say, it has a reputation at the company I worked for.  It also lubricates your arteries.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brandon on January 14, 2014, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 14, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lobster rolls

Lobsters don't roll.

But some rock ;)

Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 11:36:29 PM
Sigh.

Some of us are old enough to remember seeing the B-52s perform Rock Lobster on SNL, way too many years ago.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Molandfreak on January 15, 2014, 02:16:05 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on January 14, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
Basically anything that makes you shit.
So don't eat anything on a road trip. Or eat things you can't digest, then throw up.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Takumi on January 15, 2014, 10:20:13 AM
But pooing is cool!
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: texaskdog on January 15, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
Anything in Norman, OK when you're wearing Texas Longhorn gear
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Jardine on January 15, 2014, 11:20:10 AM
Cuttlefish and asparagus . . .


:-o
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: kurumi on January 15, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
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Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: roadman on January 15, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
One of my favorite road trip breakfasts is having one or two McDonalds sausage biscuits.  Usually easy to eat while driving, and not terribly messy.  Provided, of course, they don't serve you one that's been under the heat lamp for awhile.

I learned that lesson the hard way one morning on the Indiana Toll Road.  Got to the Mickey's at a service plaza about 9:55 (just before they stopped serving breakfast), got my biscuits and proceeded on my way.  Took a bite into one biscuit, and the entire thing blew apart in a big "POOF".  Pulled over at the next service plaza and cleaned out my car as best I could.  However, I was still finding parts of (now long stale) biscuit wedged into various nooks and crannies of the car (my 1988 Prelude) when I removed my radio gear prior to trading the car in years ago.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: PHLBOS on January 15, 2014, 01:13:18 PM
For obvious reasons, a Sloppy-Joe.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Scott5114 on January 15, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 15, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
Anything in Norman, OK when you're wearing Texas Longhorn gear

I know people who have done this and nobody really gives a shit. At least, not on the west side. Might be different closer in to campus or when alcohol is involved.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 15, 2014, 06:32:08 PM
meh.  I suppose we're getting closer to a post-racial society when we have to worry about getting harassed over what color our clothes are.

fuck football.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: algorerhythms on January 15, 2014, 08:49:10 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on January 15, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
Anything in Norman, OK when you're wearing Texas Longhorn gear

I know people who have done this and nobody really gives a shit. At least, not on the west side. Might be different closer in to campus or when alcohol is involved.
I don't have any Texas Longhorns clothes (don't really care about football), but I have a shirt that is in their colors, and the only time I've as much as gotten a comment about it was a joke about it from another graduate student.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alps on January 15, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
My rule for what not to eat is, chain food.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hotdogPi on January 15, 2014, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 15, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
My rule for what not to eat is, chain food.

Cats eat cat food.
Dogs eat dog food.
Do chains eat chain food?

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Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alps on January 15, 2014, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 15, 2014, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 15, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
My rule for what not to eat is, chain food.

Cats eat cat food.
Dogs eat dog food.
Do chains eat chain food?

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Do souls eat soul food?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: PHLBOS on January 16, 2014, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 15, 2014, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 15, 2014, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 15, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
My rule for what not to eat is, chain food.

Cats eat cat food.
Dogs eat dog food.
Do chains eat chain food?

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Do souls eat soul food?
If one believes that everyone has a soul (or is considered to be a soul), then yes.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 16, 2014, 10:49:58 AM
We have a dog who loves to eat cat food and cats who like dog food. I think they have some species identity crises going on.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on January 16, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: roadman on January 15, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
One of my favorite road trip breakfasts is having one or two McDonalds sausage biscuits.  Usually easy to eat while driving, and not terribly messy.  Provided, of course, they don't serve you one that's been under the heat lamp for awhile.

I learned that lesson the hard way one morning on the Indiana Toll Road.  Got to the Mickey's at a service plaza about 9:55 (just before they stopped serving breakfast), got my biscuits and proceeded on my way.  Took a bite into one biscuit, and the entire thing blew apart in a big "POOF".  Pulled over at the next service plaza and cleaned out my car as best I could.  However, I was still finding parts of (now long stale) biscuit wedged into various nooks and crannies of the car (my 1988 Prelude) when I removed my radio gear prior to trading the car in years ago.
How do McDonalds sausage biscuits become explosive under heat lamps? I could see dry or cold, but not chemically unstable.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: english si on January 16, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
the air bubbles in the middle of the biscuit heating up under the lamp and expanding - roadman basically popping the balloon when taking a bite?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 16, 2014, 01:18:41 PM
Usain Bolt likes fast food.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brian556 on January 16, 2014, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from hbelkins:
QuoteWe have a dog who loves to eat cat food and cats who like dog food. I think they have some species identity crises going on.

When I was younger, a friend's dogs love eating cat feces from the litterbox.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alps on January 16, 2014, 07:52:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2014, 10:49:58 AM
We have a dog who loves to eat cat food and cats who like dog food. I think they have some species identity crises going on.
That's normal. Each trying to make the other jealous. If you had kids, you would have noticed a point when each only would want what the other has. (reliving "fond" memories of me and my sister)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 16, 2014, 10:47:08 PM
Wet (canned) cat food has a higher fat content and dogs seem to like that.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: ZLoth on January 17, 2014, 03:18:05 AM
Everyone is different, of course. My recommendations to avoid on a road trip:
* Denny's
* Country Fried Streak Breakfast. Too saucy.

Of course, if you are traveling, I would recommend using Yelp to find some local places and avoid the food chains.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Scott5114 on January 17, 2014, 05:32:46 AM
Yelp is a scam. Their algorithm weights bad reviews more heavily than good ones until the business owner pays off Yelp. If they do, the profile gets sanitized. The bad reviews might even be planted by Yelp themselves.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 17, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 16, 2014, 07:52:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2014, 10:49:58 AM
We have a dog who loves to eat cat food and cats who like dog food. I think they have some species identity crises going on.
That's normal. Each trying to make the other jealous. If you had kids, you would have noticed a point when each only would want what the other has. (reliving "fond" memories of me and my sister)

Breaking news: Steve plays with Barbies.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 17, 2014, 04:09:01 PM
Is it wrong that I actually want to eat a bunch of sugar-free Gummy Bears and see what happens?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: NE2 on January 17, 2014, 04:13:59 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 17, 2014, 04:09:01 PM
Is it wrong that I actually want to eat a bunch of sugar-free Gummy Bears and see what happens?
No. Pooing is cool. So is drug experimentation.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: NJRoadfan on January 17, 2014, 05:21:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 17, 2014, 04:09:01 PM
Is it wrong that I actually want to eat a bunch of sugar-free Gummy Bears and see what happens?

Its easier to bring them into work as a treat.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alps on January 17, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2014, 05:32:46 AM
Yelp is a scam. Their algorithm weights bad reviews more heavily than good ones until the business owner pays off Yelp. If they do, the profile gets sanitized. The bad reviews might even be planted by Yelp themselves.
Bullshit, utter bullshit. It's the other way around. Business owners are constantly fighting bad reviews, to the point that the only way to get bad reviews posted is to be certified "Elite" so that your review trumps their complaint. I had to fight this myself, so I know. And I've never seen a bad review posted for a truly good place, so if you see a lot of bad reviews, I'd suggest you're not looking in the right places anyway...
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: corco on January 17, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 17, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2014, 05:32:46 AM
Yelp is a scam. Their algorithm weights bad reviews more heavily than good ones until the business owner pays off Yelp. If they do, the profile gets sanitized. The bad reviews might even be planted by Yelp themselves.
Bullshit, utter bullshit. It's the other way around. Business owners are constantly fighting bad reviews, to the point that the only way to get bad reviews posted is to be certified "Elite" so that your review trumps their complaint. I had to fight this myself, so I know. And I've never seen a bad review posted for a truly good place, so if you see a lot of bad reviews, I'd suggest you're not looking in the right places anyway...

That doesn't pass the smell test either. People sometimes have bad experiences at good places- that's something that will inevitably happen, and the people that post reviews of things online are typically people who are riled up one way or another. Your super frequent contributors will leave good reviews, but I bet a good chunk of the drive-by reviewers are bad reviews.

When I worked in the hotel business, management was happy if 70% of our satisfaction responses came back positive even though the hope is that guest satisfaction is a lot higher, because the people that crunch these numbers for a living have found that people who had good experiences often don't fill out the survey, but people who have bad experiences nearly always do.

If there are NO bad reviews and there are a lot of reviews, that suggests either the business is perfect, which is impossibly optimistic or bad reviews have been removed.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 17, 2014, 11:20:19 PM
Quote from: corco on January 17, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
That doesn't pass the smell test either. People sometimes have bad experiences at good places- that's something that will inevitably happen, and the people that post reviews of things online are typically people who are riled up one way or another. Your super frequent contributors will leave good reviews, but I bet a good chunk of the drive-by reviewers are bad reviews.

On Trip Advisor, unless an establishment is consistently panned, I generally don't pay a lot of attention to bad reviews. I realize there are a lot of hotel/motel snobs out there and I think a lot of them hold some places to an impossibly high standard. To date, I have had no problems staying in a place that has gotten a few bad reviews but with some positives mixed in.

I frequently stay at the Days Inn in Frankfort when I have to go down there for work. It gets a lot of bad reviews, including from those folks who bitch and moan because it has tube TVs and not flat panel TVs. I have never had a bad experience there and quite frankly have never experienced the problems that some of the reviewers claim that they have.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Duke87 on January 17, 2014, 11:51:27 PM
I stick to chains when I'm on the road unless I have a recommendation from someone about a specific place. I'm exceptionally picky with food and knowing what to expect is very important to me.

Also, food that cannot be ordered as take-out and then eaten while driving is of inferior utility when on the road.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: bugo on January 17, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
Pough.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: ZLoth on January 18, 2014, 04:12:03 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2014, 05:32:46 AM
Yelp is a scam. Their algorithm weights bad reviews more heavily than good ones until the business owner pays off Yelp. If they do, the profile gets sanitized. The bad reviews might even be planted by Yelp themselves.
In my limited experience, I have found Yelp to have a very good restaurant listing. The reviews needs to be taken into context, as it's hard to get a proper picture with just 2-3 reviews. 20-30 reviews paints a better picture.

Do you have a suggestion for an alternative that I can use on my Android phone?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: vdeane on January 18, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Bad reviews on anything can be weird and unreliable.  A history book I'm reading even has a particular one star review on Amazon that boils down to "it doesn't match the idealized propaganda I learned in elementary school so it's junk" - never mind that the book is written almost entirely from primary sources!

A lot of restaurants in Rome, NY have reviews stating the food is too expensive... even though the prices are in line with every other comparable restaurant in upstate NY.  I've also seen complaints that food isn't perfect.  I guess some people expect five star food for one star prices and leave one star reviews if they don't get it.  Service is an area that's very inconsistent too - people review based on their one experience, so if their waiter is having a bad day, or it's the one slacker in the establishment, it often results in a one star review in a sea of four-five star reviews (especially if the reviewer is also a perfectionist).

Plus some people have odd tastes.  At my last company, I could name a restaurant, the person who shared my office would hate it, and the HR person on my floor loved it.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 18, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: ZLoth on January 18, 2014, 04:12:03 AM
Do you have a suggestion for an alternative that I can use on my Android phone?

Yelp doesn't have an Android app? You could always try loading their Web site on your browser.

Foursquare has an Android app. Not sure about UrbanSpoon.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Scott5114 on January 19, 2014, 02:26:19 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 17, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2014, 05:32:46 AM
Yelp is a scam. Their algorithm weights bad reviews more heavily than good ones until the business owner pays off Yelp. If they do, the profile gets sanitized. The bad reviews might even be planted by Yelp themselves.
Bullshit, utter bullshit. It's the other way around. Business owners are constantly fighting bad reviews, to the point that the only way to get bad reviews posted is to be certified "Elite" so that your review trumps their complaint. I had to fight this myself, so I know. And I've never seen a bad review posted for a truly good place, so if you see a lot of bad reviews, I'd suggest you're not looking in the right places anyway...

I've read enough accounts of Yelp sales people shaking down business owners for hundreds of dollars to make bad reviews magically disappear to believe it.

This is probably two sides of the same coin. If the business doesn't pay Yelp, the bad reviews are weighted heavily. If the business pays Yelp, not even a bad review from an elite reviewer will stick to them.

The Better Business Bureau (which is not a government bureau) does the same thing, by the way. A company can be rated a C—, but if they pay to become an "accredited business", they magically get an A. Total scam.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: ZLoth on January 19, 2014, 02:48:59 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 18, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: ZLoth on January 18, 2014, 04:12:03 AM
Do you have a suggestion for an alternative that I can use on my Android phone?

Yelp doesn't have an Android app? You could always try loading their Web site on your browser.

Foursquare has an Android app. Not sure about UrbanSpoon.
Yes, Yelp has an Android app. I have also added UrbanSpoon.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: formulanone on January 19, 2014, 09:04:37 AM
I just read the actual reviews...If they appear to be typed by someone who can't be bothered to spell anything nor use basic grammar properly, I tend to ignore it. (I expeckt at least one or two err, I'm not prefect.) If the review can't tell me with any detail why it's so awesome, I level that off too. A slew of sudden reviews that trend completely one way or the other is also increases my suspicions.


Typically, more reviews give more balance to a location, but to be fair, most places aren't worthy of five stars just as very few are deserving of low ratings. A culture of quick surveys, combined with a demand for excellence in all situations doesn't tend to help matters. People will magnify minor, trivial, or inconsequential faults once they've had a single problem, even if they  have totally unrelated issues. I surmise that frequent reviewers are much more down-to-earth with their expectations and experiences, compared to the average single review.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alps on January 19, 2014, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 19, 2014, 09:04:37 AM
I just read the actual reviews...If they appear to be typed by someone who can't be bothered to spell anything nor use basic grammar properly, I tend to ignore it. (I expeckt at least one or two err, I'm not prefect.) If the review can't tell me with any detail why it's so awesome, I level that off too. A slew of sudden reviews that trend completely one way or the other is also increases my suspicions.


Typically, more reviews give more balance to a location, but to be fair, most places aren't worthy of five stars just as very few are deserving of low ratings. A culture of quick surveys, combined with a demand for excellence in all situations doesn't tend to help matters. People will magnify minor, trivial, or inconsequential faults once they've had a single problem, even if they  have totally unrelated issues. I surmise that frequent reviewers are much more down-to-earth with their expectations and experiences, compared to the average single review.

Exactly why they create "Elite" badges on Yelp, and I'm sure similar on Urbanspoon and Tripadvisor, etc. Just like a business can become "accredited" (I'm not going to debate what's going on there any further), so can a reviewer. I always read those first.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on January 19, 2014, 05:46:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 19, 2014, 02:26:19 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 17, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2014, 05:32:46 AM
Yelp is a scam. Their algorithm weights bad reviews more heavily than good ones until the business owner pays off Yelp. If they do, the profile gets sanitized. The bad reviews might even be planted by Yelp themselves.
Bullshit, utter bullshit. It's the other way around. Business owners are constantly fighting bad reviews, to the point that the only way to get bad reviews posted is to be certified "Elite" so that your review trumps their complaint. I had to fight this myself, so I know. And I've never seen a bad review posted for a truly good place, so if you see a lot of bad reviews, I'd suggest you're not looking in the right places anyway...

I've read enough accounts of Yelp sales people shaking down business owners for hundreds of dollars to make bad reviews magically disappear to believe it.

This is probably two sides of the same coin. If the business doesn't pay Yelp, the bad reviews are weighted heavily. If the business pays Yelp, not even a bad review from an elite reviewer will stick to them.

The Better Business Bureau (which is not a government bureau) does the same thing, by the way. A company can be rated a C—, but if they pay to become an "accredited business", they magically get an A. Total scam.

I've seen the same reports about Yelp "sales" associates trying to shake down restaurants, but I've yet to see any actual proof. The Yelp CEO did an AMA on reddit a few months ago where he explicitly denied that was Yelp corporate policy. More likely IMO is that some sales associates are willing to act like douches to make a sale.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on January 20, 2014, 12:15:07 AM
Speaking of Yelp and reddit... redditors are giving Yelp a pounding here: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1vmbyb/seen_at_sfs_bai_thong/
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Alps on January 20, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on January 20, 2014, 12:15:07 AM
Speaking of Yelp and reddit... redditors are giving Yelp a pounding here: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1vmbyb/seen_at_sfs_bai_thong/
As I've noted elsewhere, all of the bad reviews seem to float to the top of reddit and all the good reviews are hidden. ;-)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hotdogPi on January 20, 2014, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 20, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on January 20, 2014, 12:15:07 AM
Speaking of Yelp and reddit... redditors are giving Yelp a pounding here: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1vmbyb/seen_at_sfs_bai_thong/
As I've noted elsewhere, all of the bad reviews seem to float to the top of reddit and all the good reviews are hidden. ;-)

Actually, it's by most recent. And since that page is about how bad Yelp is, there are few posts saying that it's good.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: formulanone on January 20, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
We should start a "restaurant", give it a couple of 3-5 star ratings, toss in a couple of bad ones to test it out. Then see what happens for sure when Yelp's sales-holes come a'calling.

Alanland's: Try the goat!
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hotdogPi on January 20, 2014, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
We should start a "restaurant", give it a couple of 3-5 star ratings, toss in a couple of bad ones to test it out. Then see what happens for sure when Yelp's sales-holes come a'calling.

Alanland's: Try the goat!

I thought Yelp only did real restaurants. Is it something you sign up for, or is it something that just gets added when one is found (you don't need to tell them)?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: sammi on January 20, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2014, 08:35:36 PM
I thought Yelp only did real restaurants. Is it something you sign up for, or is it something that just gets added when one is found (you don't need to tell them)?

Only one way to find out.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hm insulators on January 21, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 17, 2014, 11:20:19 PM
Quote from: corco on January 17, 2014, 10:36:47 PM

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I frequently stay at the Days Inn in Frankfort when I have to go down there for work. It gets a lot of bad reviews, including from those folks who bitch and moan because it has tube TVs and not flat panel TVs. 

"Your hotel stinks because it doesn't have flat panel TVs."

Oh, brother. Boo-hoo, boo-hoo. :banghead:
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: exit322 on January 21, 2014, 05:20:12 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 17, 2014, 11:20:19 PM
Quote from: corco on January 17, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
That doesn't pass the smell test either. People sometimes have bad experiences at good places- that's something that will inevitably happen, and the people that post reviews of things online are typically people who are riled up one way or another. Your super frequent contributors will leave good reviews, but I bet a good chunk of the drive-by reviewers are bad reviews.

On Trip Advisor, unless an establishment is consistently panned, I generally don't pay a lot of attention to bad reviews. I realize there are a lot of hotel/motel snobs out there and I think a lot of them hold some places to an impossibly high standard. To date, I have had no problems staying in a place that has gotten a few bad reviews but with some positives mixed in.

I frequently stay at the Days Inn in Frankfort when I have to go down there for work. It gets a lot of bad reviews, including from those folks who bitch and moan because it has tube TVs and not flat panel TVs. I have never had a bad experience there and quite frankly have never experienced the problems that some of the reviewers claim that they have.

If on Trip Advisor the only complaint of a place is that they have CRT televisions...I'm probably going to be fine there!

We did recently stay at the Econo Lodge in Walterboro SC on the way home from a trip to Florida.  We were a bit surprised when the room did have the old CRT television...but goodness, the thing still worked.  Why throw it out?  It's Walterboro, South Carolina...not too many people are going to be staying there that long (no offense to the town, it seems a nice place...but I don't think too many motels along I-95 in rural SC have any need to rent by the month)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: formulanone on January 21, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
Nearly all the hotels I go to have a flat-panel screen, but maybe half of them have a decent picture. I might watch 20 minutes a week over my typical four-night stay, so I don't care.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on January 22, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 21, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
Nearly all the hotels I go to have a flat-panel screen, but maybe half of them have a decent picture. I might watch 20 minutes a week over my typical four-night stay, so I don't care.

I'm with you. Personally, I wish hotels would spend money on providing usable internet access instead of flat panel TVs.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: roadman on January 22, 2014, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 22, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 21, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
Nearly all the hotels I go to have a flat-panel screen, but maybe half of them have a decent picture. I might watch 20 minutes a week over my typical four-night stay, so I don't care.

I'm with you. Personally, I wish hotels would spend money on providing usable internet access instead of flat panel TVs.

Every hotel I've stayed at in the past five years has had good (i.e. password protected) and reliable Internet access for no additional charge.  I especially like Holiday Inn Express's approach, as they give you a wired connection and have an Ethernet cable in the room for your use.

As for TV in hotels, I totally agree.  The one that always gets me is "Free HBO" (translation - in exchange, we omit most of the other cable channels people might actually watch).  Although what little TV watching I do in hotels has put me off the idea of getting satelite TV at home - just too unreliable in even a mild rain strom.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: vdeane on January 22, 2014, 05:00:30 PM
Most of the hotels I've been have had really bad internet, but then I can't afford to stay anywhere that's more than two stars.

Satellite TV reception varies by area too.  Some houses will lose reception if there's a raindrop anywhere on the planet.  Others can go through a blizzard and still get full quality HD.  A lot of it depends on how clear the view of the southern sky is, how well the dish is mounted, and where you are relative to the satellite.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brandon on January 22, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 02:48:34 PM
As for TV in hotels, I totally agree.  The one that always gets me is "Free HBO" (translation - in exchange, we omit most of the other cable channels people might actually watch).  Although what little TV watching I do in hotels has put me off the idea of getting satelite TV at home - just too unreliable in even a mild rain strom.

"Free HBO" seems to be a holdover from when HBO was the one movie channel on TV.  It means they need to update their sign and literature from the early 1980s.  I still remember when TMC, Showtime, and Cinemax were new, and MTV actually played music videos.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: roadman on January 22, 2014, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 02:48:34 PM
As for TV in hotels, I totally agree.  The one that always gets me is "Free HBO" (translation - in exchange, we omit most of the other cable channels people might actually watch).  Although what little TV watching I do in hotels has put me off the idea of getting satelite TV at home - just too unreliable in even a mild rain strom.

"Free HBO" seems to be a holdover from when HBO was the one movie channel on TV.  It means they need to update their sign and literature from the early 1980s.  I still remember when TMC, Showtime, and Cinemax were new, and MTV actually played music videos.
I also remember when TMC was new, as my parents had it for just over a year.  They cancelled the service when the programming changed from mostly first run movies to mostly also-ran films.

As for MTV, it's a good example of what's gone wrong with cable TV lately.  The trend of going away from unique programming to the "well, X now has a (insert any topic here) reality show, so we've got to have one like it" is accelerating the inevitable death of the medium.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on January 22, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
I'd just like it if more hotels would provide a printed channel guide, especially ones whose system doesn't offer an onscreen guide.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: ZLoth on January 22, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
I'm not going on a road trip to watch television. I can watch movies on my laptop and tablet anyways.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: NJRoadfan on January 22, 2014, 06:24:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
"Free HBO" seems to be a holdover from when HBO was the one movie channel on TV.  It means they need to update their sign and literature from the early 1980s.  I still remember when TMC, Showtime, and Cinemax were new, and MTV actually played music videos.

I've seen hotels with signs that still advertise "In-room Hi-Fi"! Perhaps they could alter the "H" into a "W".

For those that don't know what Hi-Fi means, the rooms used to have a stereo in it. This later morphed into a TV with a built in AM/FM radio tuner.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 22, 2014, 06:31:50 PM
Quote from: NJRoadfan on January 22, 2014, 06:24:32 PM
I've seen hotels with signs that still advertise "In-room Hi-Fi"!

I don't recall ever seeing such a thing.  for me, the sign of an old motel is not just "color TV" but also the acceptance of BankAmericard (changed to Visa in 1976) and MasterCharge (changed to MasterCard in 1979).
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on January 22, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: ZLoth on January 22, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
I'm not going on a road trip to watch television. I can watch movies on my laptop and tablet anyways.

Agreed, but I do like to have the news or the sports highlights on when I'm getting ready to turn in and in the morning when I'm shaving/getting dressed.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on January 22, 2014, 10:39:29 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 22, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 21, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
Nearly all the hotels I go to have a flat-panel screen, but maybe half of them have a decent picture. I might watch 20 minutes a week over my typical four-night stay, so I don't care.

I'm with you. Personally, I wish hotels would spend money on providing usable internet access instead of flat panel TVs.

Every hotel I've stayed at in the past five years has had good (i.e. password protected) and reliable Internet access for no additional charge.  I especially like Holiday Inn Express's approach, as they give you a wired connection and have an Ethernet cable in the room for your use.

As for TV in hotels, I totally agree.  The one that always gets me is "Free HBO" (translation - in exchange, we omit most of the other cable channels people might actually watch).  Although what little TV watching I do in hotels has put me off the idea of getting satelite TV at home - just too unreliable in even a mild rain strom.

Of the maybe 25-30 hotels I stay in yearly, maybe 5 per year have workable internet connections. Can't VPN to work? The free internet is worthless. It's a mix of overuse (everyone trying to stream Netflix means I can't get work done) and poor network planning (a wifi access point every three rooms all on the same channel means nobody can talk to any of them). It's to the point where I much prefer hotels with paid internet because it's much more likely to not be terrible.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: formulanone on January 22, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
I stow a 3-foot RJ45 cable in my luggage, because sometimes the internet speeds are faster that way. I've heard of a few places charging you to borrow that cable...

About 75% of the places I go to have decent internet, but those last 25% make it impossible to use Skype, other than for voice. Maybe one hotel per year would rival my home internet up/down speeds, and it's probably the cheapest broadband internet plan I could find in my area. (Seems to stream Netflix without disruption, so that's fast enough.)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Duke87 on January 22, 2014, 11:54:36 PM
I never watch TV anyway, so I really don't care what if any a hotel provides.

Free wifi is more useful although I'm growing wary of such things. I discovered an odd bit of rogue software on my computer last year which I concluded must have come via a hotel's unencrypted wifi based on the date it was installed. It's probably wise in general to avoid unencrypted wifi, it's kind of the digital equivalent of unprotected sex.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: PHLBOS on January 23, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 05:47:19 PMAs for MTV, it's a good example of what's gone wrong with cable TV lately.
Lately?  MTV lost its original Music-Television focus roughly 10 to 15 years ago, maybe even earlier.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on January 23, 2014, 02:41:43 PM
If you have HughesNet satellite internet at home, even the crappiest hotel wifi connection will make you think you're on a dedicated T1 line.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on January 23, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 23, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 05:47:19 PMAs for MTV, it's a good example of what's gone wrong with cable TV lately.
Lately?  MTV lost its original Music-Television focus roughly 10 to 15 years ago, maybe even earlier.

I'd argue that whenever they started "The Real World" and "Road Rules" they went off-track. They had previously had some non—music video stuff, but if memory serves, it was still music-related–that game show "Remote Control" comes to mind as an example. It had to have been on when I was in high school because they had a category called "Sing along with" whoever the co-host was–I remember my junior or senior year of high school we were hosting an interscholastic competition and the teacher in charge put in a round called "Sing along with Jin" as a send-up of "Remote Control" (it was a foreign-language competition and for that round a Korean kid named Jin read song lyrics in the other language and the competitors had to figure out the rock band who sang them).
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Laura on January 30, 2014, 09:44:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 23, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 23, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 05:47:19 PMAs for MTV, it's a good example of what's gone wrong with cable TV lately.
Lately?  MTV lost its original Music-Television focus roughly 10 to 15 years ago, maybe even earlier.

I'd argue that whenever they started "The Real World" and "Road Rules" they went off-track. They had previously had some non—music video stuff, but if memory serves, it was still music-related–that game show "Remote Control" comes to mind as an example.

Yep. Pretty much every cable channel now is a reality TV or psuedoscience channel that airs programming completely unrelated to its name. Just tonight, history channel was running psuedohistory "who really discovered america" alien stuff, lifetime was airing "The First 48" crime murder show, the military channel had unsolved bible mysteries, natgeo was showing some redneck show, bbc was showing kitchen nightmares.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on January 30, 2014, 09:57:23 PM
Quote from: Laura on January 30, 2014, 09:44:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 23, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 23, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 05:47:19 PMAs for MTV, it's a good example of what's gone wrong with cable TV lately.
Lately?  MTV lost its original Music-Television focus roughly 10 to 15 years ago, maybe even earlier.

I'd argue that whenever they started "The Real World" and "Road Rules" they went off-track. They had previously had some non—music video stuff, but if memory serves, it was still music-related–that game show "Remote Control" comes to mind as an example.

Yep. Pretty much every cable channel now is a reality TV or psuedoscience channel that airs programming completely unrelated to its name. Just tonight, history channel was running psuedohistory "who really discovered america" alien stuff, lifetime was airing "The First 48" crime murder show, the military channel had unsolved bible mysteries, natgeo was showing some redneck show, bbc was showing kitchen nightmares.


IMO cable has gone bipolar. There's a lot of trash (reality shows as mentioned) and there's a lot of actual quality content:
Breaking Bad (ended, I know)
Walking Dead
Psych
Mad Men
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Archer
Orphan Black
The Americans
Broadchurch
Anything on HBO or Showtime
Any Netflix original series (not really cable)

In the past 5 years, television has overtaken film as where the great stories are told. You just have to ignore the Hunny Boo Boo nonsense trash shows and look for the quality conetnt. Stick to channels like AMC and USA.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: leroys73 on January 30, 2014, 10:10:11 PM
I love Mexican food, but not while on a road trip.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on February 05, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 23, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 23, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: roadman on January 22, 2014, 05:47:19 PMAs for MTV, it's a good example of what's gone wrong with cable TV lately.
Lately?  MTV lost its original Music-Television focus roughly 10 to 15 years ago, maybe even earlier.

I'd argue that whenever they started "The Real World" and "Road Rules" they went off-track. They had previously had some non—music video stuff, but if memory serves, it was still music-related–that game show "Remote Control" comes to mind as an example. It had to have been on when I was in high school because they had a category called "Sing along with" whoever the co-host was–I remember my junior or senior year of high school we were hosting an interscholastic competition and the teacher in charge put in a round called "Sing along with Jin" as a send-up of "Remote Control" (it was a foreign-language competition and for that round a Korean kid named Jin read song lyrics in the other language and the competitors had to figure out the rock band who sang them).

This is very, very eerie. I posted the comment above on January 23. This morning, my brother e-mailed me an obituary: The former teacher I mentioned in the comment above died on January 27 of pancreatic cancer. He was only 50 years old. I hadn't thought of him in a long time and I just find it really eerie how I'd mentioned him here and then that happened right afterwards.

Sorry, totally unrelated to the thread. I'm just kind of a little freaked out by the weird coincidence.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brandon on February 05, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Laura on January 30, 2014, 09:44:24 PM
Yep. Pretty much every cable channel now is a reality TV or psuedoscience channel that airs programming completely unrelated to its name. Just tonight, history channel was running psuedohistory "who really discovered america" alien stuff, lifetime was airing "The First 48" crime murder show, the military channel had unsolved bible mysteries, natgeo was showing some redneck show, bbc was showing kitchen nightmares.

However, that said, Kitchen Nightmares is a production of the BBC mothership.  Of all the channels listed, this is the only one that actually made any sense with what the channel originally started as.  The others have nothing to do with the original intent of the channel.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: bugo on February 05, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 22, 2014, 06:31:50 PM
MasterCharge (changed to MasterCard in 1979).

Was it that long ago?  I clearly remember seeing Master Charge ads on TV.  I'm not old enough to remember the Bank Americard ads, however.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: bugo on February 05, 2014, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: leroys73 on January 30, 2014, 10:10:11 PM
'72 Monte Carlo

What does your Monte Carlo have in it?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on February 05, 2014, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 05, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Laura on January 30, 2014, 09:44:24 PM
Yep. Pretty much every cable channel now is a reality TV or psuedoscience channel that airs programming completely unrelated to its name. Just tonight, history channel was running psuedohistory "who really discovered america" alien stuff, lifetime was airing "The First 48" crime murder show, the military channel had unsolved bible mysteries, natgeo was showing some redneck show, bbc was showing kitchen nightmares.

However, that said, Kitchen Nightmares is a production of the BBC mothership.  Of all the channels listed, this is the only one that actually made any sense with what the channel originally started as.  The others have nothing to do with the original intent of the channel.

Kitchen Nightmares is a good example of the difference between American and European "reality TV." We saw the original British show (which was called Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares) first when we were flipping channels and discovered it on BBC America. It was quite different from the version shown here on FOX. You could actually learn a little bit about restaurant operations from the British version, whereas the American version focuses more on people arguing and screaming profanities. A few of the early American episodes discussed some of the practical aspects of running a restaurant–I recall there was one where the menu was so absurdly complicated that even the waitresses couldn't explain it to customers–but it got away from that.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: J N Winkler on February 05, 2014, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 22, 2014, 10:39:29 PMOf the maybe 25-30 hotels I stay in yearly, maybe 5 per year have workable internet connections. Can't VPN to work? The free internet is worthless. It's a mix of overuse (everyone trying to stream Netflix means I can't get work done) and poor network planning (a wifi access point every three rooms all on the same channel means nobody can talk to any of them). It's to the point where I much prefer hotels with paid internet because it's much more likely to not be terrible.

My hit rate over 2013 has been a little better but the sample is quite small:  one motel in Bentonville with good wifi, another in Kansas City with unreliable wifi (couldn't associate about one-third of the time, speeds all over the place when I could actually get through).  It strikes me that even free hotel wifi used to be a lot more reliable five years ago, before Web-enabled smartphones became ubiquitous and video streaming became Netflix's core business.

I don't really travel in the expectation of being able to make heavy use of the Internet, and in fact I have gone to some trouble to set up VPN, Remote Desktop Connection (using a hack to get it to work on 7 Home Premium), wake-on-LAN, Task Scheduler, and a controller for download scripts so that the downloads I routinely do (mostly from state DOT websites) will occur without supervision when I am on the road.  But I do need to RDP in from time to time to make sure something hasn't fallen over on the PC at home, and it is disappointing when hotel wifi makes this all but impossible.

I usually travel with a stack of books to read.  It is of course an option to take movies, TV shows, etc. on disk for viewing on the road, but I know of no way in which this is both legal and free of tort problems (downloading copyrighted content through torrents etc. is illegal; using a screen recorder with a Netflix subscription is legally questionable and I can't imagine Netflix allows it under their terms of service).
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 05, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 05, 2014, 01:18:42 PM
I usually travel with a stack of books to read.  It is of course an option to take movies, TV shows, etc. on disk for viewing on the road, but I know of no way in which this is both legal and free of tort problems (downloading copyrighted content through torrents etc. is illegal; using a screen recorder with a Netflix subscription is legally questionable and I can't imagine Netflix allows it under their terms of service).

I think this falls precisely under the time-shifting subclause of the fair use exemption to copyright.  apart from the torrent question, this was settled in the 1980s as being legal.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: english si on February 05, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 05, 2014, 12:24:12 PMHowever, that said, Kitchen Nightmares is a production of the BBC mothership.
No it's not - it's a Channel 4 show. Ditto Peep Show.

However, BBC Worldwide isn't BBC, but a separate company where all the shares are owned by the BBC, and BBC Worldwide is the owner BBC America (and 50% of the UKTV Network, which shows mostly reruns and not all of them are BBC, or even British). Until recently, all it did was buy rerun/foreign rights and air reruns/elsewhere - there's no reason why it couldn't buy the rights for other UK programmes, just as UKTV buys rights off of other channels, including foreign ones.

BBC has started doing extended 40 minute versions of factual, non-scripted comedy shows (QI, Russell Howard's Good News, HIGNFY), replacing the traditional repeat. It's easy to do, as they edit down a good hour or more of material, and fits the hour slot on commercial channels like UKTV, BBC America, etc (and Auntie can just show a 'half hour' programme off a foreign commercial channel to fill their hour - or do a 20min news slot, or whatever). The BBC seems happy to help BBC Worldwide.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Brandon on February 05, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
^^ It's difficult to tell on this side of the pond who produces what (as I am sure it is for US productions in the UK).  We're rather happy to have BBC America (and their Doctor Who ratings show it) over here.  However, the lack of commercials in the UK does make for some interesting time slots on US TV.  What was an hour there becomes 75 or 90 minutes here.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: PHLBOS on February 05, 2014, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 22, 2014, 06:31:50 PMthe sign of an old motel is not just "color TV" but also the acceptance of BankAmericard (changed to Visa in 1976) and MasterCharge (changed to MasterCard in 1979).
At a shop not too far from where I work; there's still an old composite MasterCharge/VISA sticker on the door window.  The store in question is still open to this day.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on February 05, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 05, 2014, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 22, 2014, 10:39:29 PMOf the maybe 25-30 hotels I stay in yearly, maybe 5 per year have workable internet connections. Can't VPN to work? The free internet is worthless. It's a mix of overuse (everyone trying to stream Netflix means I can't get work done) and poor network planning (a wifi access point every three rooms all on the same channel means nobody can talk to any of them). It's to the point where I much prefer hotels with paid internet because it's much more likely to not be terrible.

My hit rate over 2013 has been a little better but the sample is quite small:  one motel in Bentonville with good wifi, another in Kansas City with unreliable wifi (couldn't associate about one-third of the time, speeds all over the place when I could actually get through).  It strikes me that even free hotel wifi used to be a lot more reliable five years ago, before Web-enabled smartphones became ubiquitous and video streaming became Netflix's core business.

I don't really travel in the expectation of being able to make heavy use of the Internet, and in fact I have gone to some trouble to set up VPN, Remote Desktop Connection (using a hack to get it to work on 7 Home Premium), wake-on-LAN, Task Scheduler, and a controller for download scripts so that the downloads I routinely do (mostly from state DOT websites) will occur without supervision when I am on the road.  But I do need to RDP in from time to time to make sure something hasn't fallen over on the PC at home, and it is disappointing when hotel wifi makes this all but impossible.

I usually travel with a stack of books to read.  It is of course an option to take movies, TV shows, etc. on disk for viewing on the road, but I know of no way in which this is both legal and free of tort problems (downloading copyrighted content through torrents etc. is illegal; using a screen recorder with a Netflix subscription is legally questionable and I can't imagine Netflix allows it under their terms of service).

Another possibility, if you have a tablet, is to download a rental movie in advance using a reliable wi-fi connection and then watch it later, flipping on your cellular data for the purpose of activating the rental when you want to start watching. Ms1995hoo and I have done this a couple of times using my iPad for our trips to Florida. Because the wi-fi at my sister-in-law's house is unreliable, we pick out a movie from the iTunes Store before we leave home to head south, I download it to the iPad as a rental, and we then watch it on the Auto Train. iTunes rentals give you 30 days to begin watching (this is good since we prefer to drive south and take the train on the way back home), and once you begin you have 24 hours to finish. Hence why I turn on the cellular data to activate the rental when we want to start watching–it has to communicate with the iTunes Store to let it know I started watching. But the movie itself is already on the device, so I'm not blowing through my data plan by downloading it over cellular (I did that at home).

I assume there may be some way to do this using other services, such as Netflix, but since we don't belong to any of those I can't comment.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: J N Winkler on February 06, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
1995hoo--Many thanks for the suggestion.  I did some checking and it seems that while the approach you describe (renting the video as a download for a fixed period) is not currently possible with Netflix, Amazon Prime and Google Play offer it as an option.  For Netflix, in addition to the screen-recording solutions (CamStudio and so on), there is apparently now a PlayLater service which records streams for later playback ($30 annual subscription, comes with a Windows program you have to install, exploits the time-shifting exception), while RTMPDumpHelper still works with Hulu.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on February 06, 2014, 02:10:59 PM
Glad I could help! We don't belong to Netflix or the others just because we don't watch enough movies for it to make sense. The only reason we have an Apple TV device at home is that my brother-in-law gave it to us for Christmas in 2011 or 2012, although I have to say I like having it even if we barely scratch the surface of what it can do. We just watch so much sports programming (yes, my wife does too; she's a more vocal hockey fan than I am) that we seldom have time for the movies. Hence why the ad hoc approach using the iTunes store works for us, though of course I recognize from the words "Google Play" in your post that you probably have an Android device such that the iTunes approach wouldn't be an option.

I've thought about joining Amazon Prime from time to time but have never done so because our book purchases are 95% Kindle downloads, and when we do order actual books they almost always come within two days even when I select "FREE Super Saver Shipping." For me it's hard to justify paying for the Prime service under those circumstances. But if I were in the scenario you describe I might reconsider it.

The other movie app I have on my iPad is something called "Flixster" and I have it because I bought the extended edition of the first Hobbit movie on Blu-ray and it came with a code for a free HD download through this Flixster thing. I got the download and put it on my iPad so we could watch it on our most recent Florida trip, but we wound up not watching it because my wife preferred something shorter (we watched a hockey movie instead). I ought to explore to see if I can use Flixster with AirPlay to stream the download via the Apple TV....while I have the Blu-ray disc, the Blu-ray player isn't hooked up right now (due to lack of space and lack of a free HDMI port) and I'm not even sure where I put it when I put it away!
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: realjd on February 06, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 06, 2014, 02:10:59 PM
Glad I could help! We don't belong to Netflix or the others just because we don't watch enough movies for it to make sense. The only reason we have an Apple TV device at home is that my brother-in-law gave it to us for Christmas in 2011 or 2012, although I have to say I like having it even if we barely scratch the surface of what it can do. We just watch so much sports programming (yes, my wife does too; she's a more vocal hockey fan than I am) that we seldom have time for the movies. Hence why the ad hoc approach using the iTunes store works for us, though of course I recognize from the words "Google Play" in your post that you probably have an Android device such that the iTunes approach wouldn't be an option.

I've thought about joining Amazon Prime from time to time but have never done so because our book purchases are 95% Kindle downloads, and when we do order actual books they almost always come within two days even when I select "FREE Super Saver Shipping." For me it's hard to justify paying for the Prime service under those circumstances. But if I were in the scenario you describe I might reconsider it.

The other movie app I have on my iPad is something called "Flixster" and I have it because I bought the extended edition of the first Hobbit movie on Blu-ray and it came with a code for a free HD download through this Flixster thing. I got the download and put it on my iPad so we could watch it on our most recent Florida trip, but we wound up not watching it because my wife preferred something shorter (we watched a hockey movie instead). I ought to explore to see if I can use Flixster with AirPlay to stream the download via the Apple TV....while I have the Blu-ray disc, the Blu-ray player isn't hooked up right now (due to lack of space and lack of a free HDMI port) and I'm not even sure where I put it when I put it away!

I've had Amazon Prime for years and never buy paper books. They sell practically everything. I treat it like a Walmart that I don't have to drive to. Everything from paper towels to video games to cat food, Amazon prime can get it to you in 2 days for a lower price than you can get locally, or $4 if you need it overnight. Almost all of our non-food shopping is on Amazon. Hell, I've even bought furniture from them.

It's especially great at Christmas. I can buy presents and have them shipped for free directly to the recipient. For a couple of dollars, Amazon will even gift wrap them.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: vdeane on February 06, 2014, 08:18:33 PM
I occasionally use the shipping bonus of Amazon Prime, but mostly I have it for the unlimited streaming of Star Trek and Doctor Who.  I've read you can rent some kindle books for free and now each month they have a list of four new releases and you can pick to get one for free in advance of the publication date (for kindle).

It doesn't hurt that I have an Amazon Student membership from when I was in college (they don't seem to care that I've since graduated), since it gives me half off the cost of prime.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: 1995hoo on July 27, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
Thread bumped because I saw this product at the grocery store today. I think this qualifies not just as something not to eat on a road trip, but as something not to eat EVER, period, based on its name.....well, maybe unless you're female.

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Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: US71 on July 27, 2014, 11:42:41 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
Thread bumped because I saw this product at the grocery store today. I think this qualifies not just as something not to eat on a road trip, but as something not to eat EVER, period, based on its name.....well, maybe unless you're female.

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Are you saying it's fowl? ;)
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: hbelkins on July 28, 2014, 01:22:42 PM
Does it taste like chicken?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Tom958 on July 28, 2014, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Jardine on January 14, 2014, 11:36:29 PM
Sigh.

Some of us are old enough to remember seeing the B-52s perform Rock Lobster on SNL, way too many years ago.

At least one of us saw the B-52's play for free in Piedmont Park right before their first album came out. Before they started playing, the female band members twirled batons to a tape of "These Boots Are Made For Walkin.'"
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: vdeane on July 28, 2014, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
Thread bumped because I saw this product at the grocery store today. I think this qualifies not just as something not to eat on a road trip, but as something not to eat EVER, period, based on its name.....well, maybe unless you're female.

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Is the cock soup mix popular at sausage fests?
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Thing 342 on July 28, 2014, 08:26:20 PM
]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_oMY5ULIw&list=UUxt9Pvye-9x_AIcb1UtmF1Q] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_oMY5ULIw&list=UUxt9Pvye-9x_AIcb1UtmF1Q)

Anything in this video, but at 5:07 specifically...

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Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: Arkansastravelguy on July 28, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
What a derailed thread. Chili cheese burritos Wendy's chili or habanero salsa are poor choices.
Title: Re: What NOT to eat on a road trip
Post by: US71 on July 29, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on July 28, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
What a derailed thread. Chili cheese burritos Wendy's chili or habanero salsa are poor choices.
Most Chinese food is a no-no for me. Also poor quality pizza :(