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Started by roadman65, April 25, 2022, 11:05:49 AM

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roadman65

Here is an oddity for TX SH shields, but not so much along TX SH 35 in Pearland, Texas.

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kphoger

Cross-posting this one:

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 02, 2020, 05:02:07 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 02, 2020, 10:13:33 AM
Somewhere between Laredo and San Antonio, I even once saw a white square with 'COUNTY' at the top instead of 'TEXAS' or 'FM'.  However, since then, I've been unable to determine what exit it was.  That was probably nine or ten years ago now.

Found it, and this time (for a change) I didn't have to page all the way through hundreds of possibly relevant sheets to find it--it turned out to be page 109 out of 739 that plausibly cover I-35 between Laredo and San Antonio.

I-35 Exit 125 near Natalia, Texas

This sign was (probably) installed as part of TxDOT CCSJ 0017-05-073, the relevant plan sheet being sealed March 5, 2009.
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Thegeet

Quote from: roadman65 on April 25, 2022, 11:05:49 AM
Here is an oddity for TX SH shields, but not so much along TX SH 35 in Pearland, Texas.


I remember this shield. I think it was installed within 2018-2020. I forgot about it until now.

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Quote from: Thegeet on April 25, 2022, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 25, 2022, 11:05:49 AM
Here is an oddity for TX SH shields, but not so much along TX SH 35 in Pearland, Texas.


I remember this shield. I think it was installed within 2018-2020. I forgot about it until now.
Yeah, I've covered this before in the "Unique, Odd, Ugly, and Interesting"  signs thread. There's a whole rash of shields on SH-35 in Pearland that are like this. There's also a lot of what I believe are Arial LGS's in the area as well.
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roadman65

#6
Quote from: CoreySamson on April 25, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
Quote from: Thegeet on April 25, 2022, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 25, 2022, 11:05:49 AM
Here is an oddity for TX SH shields, but not so much along TX SH 35 in Pearland, Texas.


I remember this shield. I think it was installed within 2018-2020. I forgot about it until now.
Yeah, I've covered this before in the "Unique, Odd, Ugly, and Interesting"  signs thread. There's a whole rash of shields on SH-35 in Pearland that are like this. There's also a lot of what I believe are Arial LGS's in the area as well.

Yeah these are common NB on SH 35 in Pearland.  This is one of many, but the last as in Houston they are all usual TxDOT design for free standing shields.



This is the norm a seen a mile north of OP photo.
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roadman65

#7
https://goo.gl/maps/eFaSrxdnxKeNA3zz6
This is an oddity. The photo shows that the signal was replaced with the typical Texas horizontal mounts signals. However when there a few weeks ago, the signal at this intersection was just as it was previously.



https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52033853738/in/photostream/

So not only is this an oddity, but to switch back to the original way the signals was mounted.  Its not that uncommon for the typical horizontal mounts in Galveston.  Just drive the Seawall and plenty of horizonal mounts or drive Texas 342 SPUR.
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kphoger

Quote from: roadman65 on April 27, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/eFaSrxdnxKeNA3zz6
This is an oddity. The photo shows that the signal was replaced with the typical Texas horizontal mounts signals. However when there a few weeks ago, the signal at this intersection was just as it was previously.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/?

So not only is this an oddity, but to switch back to the original way the signals was mounted.  Its not that uncommon for the typical horizontal mounts in Galveston.  Just drive the Seawall and plenty of horizonal mounts or drive Texas 342 SPUR.

I'm not a signal guy, but it looks to my eyes like they used neither the old signals nor the temporary ones in the final setup.
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Quote from: roadman65 on April 27, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/eFaSrxdnxKeNA3zz6
This is an oddity. The photo shows that the signal was replaced with the typical Texas horizontal mounts signals. However when there a few weeks ago, the signal at this intersection was just as it was previously.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/?

So not only is this an oddity, but to switch back to the original way the signals was mounted.  Its not that uncommon for the typical horizontal mounts in Galveston.  Just drive the Seawall and plenty of horizonal mounts or drive Texas 342 SPUR.

Your Spotify is of 35th Street. The street view you showed is of 37th. Not sure what to make of it.
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KCRoadFan

#10
Among road fans, Texas is known for having horizontal traffic lights, but when I was Street Viewing around San Antonio, I noticed that all of the lights I saw in that city were vertical. Among the major Texas cities, is San Antonio unique in that regard, or are there others that prefer vertical? (I know the lights in Houston and Dallas are largely horizontal.)

US 89

Quote from: KCRoadFan on April 27, 2022, 06:42:32 PM
Among road fans, Texas is known for having horizontal traffic lights, but when I was Street Viewing around San Antonio, I noticed that all of the lights I saw in that city were vertical. Among the major Texas cities, is San Antonio unique in that regard, or are there others that prefer vertical? (I know the lights in Houston and Dallas are largely horizontal.)

Varies depending on where you are in the state. (TxDOT district, maybe?) I've personally noticed widespread vertical signals in Fort Worth and Amarillo as well.

roadman65

Quote from: bwana39 on April 27, 2022, 06:32:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 27, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/eFaSrxdnxKeNA3zz6
This is an oddity. The photo shows that the signal was replaced with the typical Texas horizontal mounts signals. However when there a few weeks ago, the signal at this intersection was just as it was previously.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/?

So not only is this an oddity, but to switch back to the original way the signals was mounted.  Its not that uncommon for the typical horizontal mounts in Galveston.  Just drive the Seawall and plenty of horizonal mounts or drive Texas 342 SPUR.

Your Spotify is of 35th Street. The street view you showed is of 37th. Not sure what to make of it.

Fixed it now.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52033853738/in/photostream/
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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roadman65

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Quote from: US 89 on April 27, 2022, 06:47:15 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on April 27, 2022, 06:42:32 PM
Among road fans, Texas is known for having horizontal traffic lights, but when I was Street Viewing around San Antonio, I noticed that all of the lights I saw in that city were vertical. Among the major Texas cities, is San Antonio unique in that regard, or are there others that prefer vertical? (I know the lights in Houston and Dallas are largely horizontal.)

Varies depending on where you are in the state. (TxDOT district, maybe?) I've personally noticed widespread vertical signals in Fort Worth and Amarillo as well.


Ditto for left turn signals. SA uses either one red ball or red arrow over the double red balls and arrows I have seen around eastern Texas.  Also the fact San Antonio use widespread span wires as other parts of the state use mostly an equal mix of both assemblies.


In addition Galveston uses one signal head for two left turn lanes where most of the US installs 2 heads ( one per left turn lane) and uses one for only single left turn lanes.   In fact the MUTCD requires only two heads in use only when two left turn dedicated lanes are being used.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Brian556

Most of the signals in Coppell, which is located in Dallas County, are vertical. Same goes for Farmers Branch

oscar

In south Texas last month, I was surprised that all of the Interstate 169 markers were on the FM 511 frontage road (which has at-grade road and rail crossings), rather than the mainline for the TX 550 Toll freeway. I also didn't see any I-169 markers on the southbound I-69E/US 77/US 83 mainline approaching the I-169 interchange, and on an earlier visit I didn't see any on northbound I-69E etc.

Not the same, but on eastbound Interstate 2 there were just a few I-2 reassurance markers, but lots of I-2 markers on the frontage road at ramps onto the interstate mainline.
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Thegeet

In Nacogdoches, an intersection on US 59 with Parker Rd has vertical left turn signals, while all other signals are horizontal.
https://goo.gl/maps/41BYtizEQYKgKAPp7

Thegeet

Quote from: oscar on April 27, 2022, 09:44:37 PM
In south Texas last month, I was surprised that all of the Interstate 169 markers were on the FM 511 frontage road (which has at-grade road and rail crossings), rather than the mainline for the TX 550 Toll freeway. I also didn't see any I-169 markers on the southbound I-69E/US 77/US 83 mainline approaching the I-169 interchange, and on an earlier visit I didn't see any on northbound I-69E etc.
Oddly enough, there are also SH 169 Toll markers on the mainline, instead of a proper I-169 shield. I also wish there was a NB exit ramp  to I-169 and WB exit ramp to I-69E SB.

bwana39

Quote from: Thegeet on April 27, 2022, 11:24:26 PM
In Nacogdoches, an intersection on US 59 with Parker Rd has vertical left turn signals, while all other signals are horizontal.
https://goo.gl/maps/41BYtizEQYKgKAPp7

That one is weird all together. It should have three lights any way. One for each lane and one for the left turn lane....
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bwana39

Quote from: roadman65 on April 27, 2022, 11:15:33 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/eFaSrxdnxKeNA3zz6
This is an oddity. The photo shows that the signal was replaced with the typical Texas horizontal mounts signals. However when there a few weeks ago, the signal at this intersection was just as it was previously.



https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52033853738/in/photostream/

So not only is this an oddity, but to switch back to the original way the signals was mounted.  Its not that uncommon for the typical horizontal mounts in Galveston.  Just drive the Seawall and plenty of horizonal mounts or drive Texas 342 SPUR.

I figured this one out. Look at the pedestrian crossing buttons. It would appear the taped over signal lights are THE OLD ones not yet removed; not the new ones.  Not sure I had ever seen this before either, but that appears to be the case.
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Quote from: Thegeet on April 27, 2022, 11:24:26 PM
In Nacogdoches, an intersection on US 59 with Parker Rd has vertical left turn signals, while all other signals are horizontal.
https://goo.gl/maps/41BYtizEQYKgKAPp7

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bwana39

#21
Quote from: Thegeet on April 27, 2022, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: oscar on April 27, 2022, 09:44:37 PM
In south Texas last month, I was surprised that all of the Interstate 169 markers were on the FM 511 frontage road (which has at-grade road and rail crossings), rather than the mainline for the TX 550 Toll freeway. I also didn't see any I-169 markers on the southbound I-69E/US 77/US 83 mainline approaching the I-169 interchange, and on an earlier visit I didn't see any on northbound I-69E etc.
Oddly enough, there are also SH 169 Toll markers on the mainline, instead of a proper I-169 shield. I also wish there was a NB exit ramp  to I-169 and WB exit ramp to I-69E SB.

If it is Texas, there should NOT be Interstate ANYTHING shields on tolled mainlanes.  The frontage roads are ALWAYS the numbered highway and the mainlanes are the tollway. In an Interstate it has generally been free freeway with tolled HOV lanes.  This is surely a dilemma and a vexing "what do we do". Obviously standard frontage roads DO NOT qualify as Interstate lanes.
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That picture reminds me:  the continuous high mast lighting used to be unique to Houston freeways, but now cities like Corpus Christi, Laredo, and Beaumont have them along their interstates.
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#23
Quote from: jgb191 on May 01, 2022, 05:38:00 AM
That picture reminds me:  the continuous high mast lighting used to be unique to Houston freeways, but now cities like Corpus Christi, Laredo, and Beaumont have them along their interstates.

They're in El Paso, now too.  In a few places, bases were ripped out, and the masts moved, due to/ for subsequent work.   Planning?  Foresight?  Bueller??   Seems wasteful, personally.  To even have them at all.   Adds light pollution as well.   Anything wrong with the basic roadside / median mounted poles that used to be the standard?   

bwana39

Quote from: jgb191 on May 01, 2022, 05:38:00 AM
That picture reminds me:  the continuous high mast lighting used to be unique to Houston freeways, but now cities like Corpus Christi, Laredo, and Beaumont have them along their interstates.

The first one EVER anywhere was in Texarkana. It was at the old US-59 / I-30 intersection. (Same location as today, just a different facility.) It was "experimental".
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