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Started by Alex, January 20, 2009, 12:43:48 AM

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jasonh300

Quote from: bwana39 on November 17, 2023, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: jasonh300 on November 17, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on November 17, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
I had thought that was the plan. The tunnel has leaked pretty much since it was built.

Are you confusing the Harvey Tunnel with the Belle Chasse Tunnel (the Belle Chasse Car Wash)?  I've been driving the Harvey Tunnel since 1988 and don't ever recall it leaking.  The Belle Chasse Tunnel sometimes has water pouring out though the crack around the lowest point.

I suppose they didn't eliminate the tunnels since the Expressway is a commercial corridor.  The industrial areas on each side of the canal are much more easily reached from the tunnel, and in recent years, a diversion of Destrehan Avenue on the west side of the tunnel allows for traffic to come out of the tunnel and turn left directly onto an extension of Destrehan.

You are probably right. I didn't know there were two tunnels down there.

3 if you count the one in Houma, which is about an hour away.


bwana39

Quote from: jasonh300 on November 17, 2023, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on November 17, 2023, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: jasonh300 on November 17, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on November 17, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
I had thought that was the plan. The tunnel has leaked pretty much since it was built.

Are you confusing the Harvey Tunnel with the Belle Chasse Tunnel (the Belle Chasse Car Wash)?  I've been driving the Harvey Tunnel since 1988 and don't ever recall it leaking.  The Belle Chasse Tunnel sometimes has water pouring out though the crack around the lowest point.

I suppose they didn't eliminate the tunnels since the Expressway is a commercial corridor.  The industrial areas on each side of the canal are much more easily reached from the tunnel, and in recent years, a diversion of Destrehan Avenue on the west side of the tunnel allows for traffic to come out of the tunnel and turn left directly onto an extension of Destrehan.

You are probably right. I didn't know there were two tunnels down there.

3 if you count the one in Houma, which is about an hour away.

I meant on the West bank. I was aware of the one in Houma.
Let's build what we need as economically as possible.

Bobby5280

I remember the Belle Chasse tunnel well. Back in the early 1980's my dad scored us base housing on the Navy base on the South side of Belle Chasse. We drove through that tunnel often (usually when driving back home after a trip into the city).

It looks like they're building a new bridge over the canal that will carry both directions of traffic. That will solve the tunnel problem.

froggie

Quote from: Bobby5280 on November 18, 2023, 06:55:42 PM
It looks like they're building a new bridge over the canal that will carry both directions of traffic. That will solve the tunnel problem.

It's also a higher-level bridge which will eliminate the need for a drawspan such as exists on the northbound side.  So it kinda kills two birds with one stone.

jasonh300

The new high-rise Belle Chasse bridge will replace both the Belle Chasse Tunnel and the Perez Bridge.  The tunnel will be permanently closed in the next 60 days, and they'll be routing southbound traffic onto the left-side of the new bridge, as the bridge approach is going to cut off access to the tunnel. They plan to have the entire thing complete sometime in 2024. Then they'll remove the tunnel and the old bridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZ3n3zjI7k

roadman65

Quote from: jasonh300 on November 23, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
The new high-rise Belle Chasse bridge will replace both the Belle Chasse Tunnel and the Perez Bridge.  The tunnel will be permanently closed in the next 60 days, and they'll be routing southbound traffic onto the left-side of the new bridge, as the bridge approach is going to cut off access to the tunnel. They plan to have the entire thing complete sometime in 2024. Then they'll remove the tunnel and the old bridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZ3n3zjI7k

I heard the tunnel closed yesterday. So that means the new bridge is opened as I write, or at least some of it then?
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

jasonh300

The tunnel is closed, and the new bridge is indeed partially open!

Belle Chasse Tunnel Permanent Closure - December 20, 2023
https://youtu.be/C1mAcYWMKa8

roadman65

I'm glad I captured this as any previous drive through this is now historic.
https://youtu.be/I9rUtELH2AU?si=ODuNY5ALPe9rq1cz
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

jasonh300

Quote from: roadman65 on December 22, 2023, 05:31:22 PM
I'm glad I captured this as any previous drive through this is now historic.

What year was that?  That's before there was even any thought of replacing it!

roadman65

Quote from: jasonh300 on December 22, 2023, 08:29:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 22, 2023, 05:31:22 PM
I'm glad I captured this as any previous drive through this is now historic.

What year was that?  That's before there was even any thought of replacing it!
2010 I think.
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roadman65

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ccurley100

I drove through the Harvey Tunnel eastbound a couple of weeks ago. It was closed heading west.

roadman65

https://maps.app.goo.gl/k1MVhZuBdfLaad848
What happened to La 24 connecting to La 1?  I remember in 2011 driving the closed gate road to access La 1.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/77PZ3pR96uXfxTn59



 Now you have to use both La 3235 and La 657 to connect between both highways.
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roadman65

Does La 1 still implement the pre paid tolls on La 1 into Grand Isle? Or have they finally accepted the pay by plate system like other cash less tolls? 

I noticed that they removed the toll info signs in Larose and along La 3235.
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roadman65

Is the new Belle Chasse Bridge yet completed? I recall the SB tunnel has been closed for a while with SB traffic using the new crossing, but is the NB traffic shifted to it or is the Judge Perez still being used?
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Anthony_JK

Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2024, 04:54:56 PMIs the new Belle Chasse Bridge yet completed? I recall the SB tunnel has been closed for a while with SB traffic using the new crossing, but is the NB traffic shifted to it or is the Judge Perez still being used?


Almost there. 
LADOTD just announced a traffic shift where southbound traffic that was using the tunnel has now been transferred over to the southbound lanes of the new bridge; northbound traffic is still on the old lift bridge. The plans are to finish moving all traffic to the new bridge and implement tolling by the end of this summer.

https://wwwapps.dotd.la.gov/administration/announcements/Announcement.aspx?key=36007 

lamsalfl

I-910 now shows up on google maps, including its voice-guided directions.  Are they just reading the federal route log, or is the state about to sign this?   The route was designated in 2000 but remains unsigned.

The Ghostbuster

Louisiana's DOT did not follow through on giving the Business 90 freeway the Interstate 910 designation, so it remains unused. I don't know why Google Maps is posting it now, and only posting it between Barataria Blvd. and the Crescent City Connection Bridge. If they had given it an Interstate 49 marking, while very premature, it would be a little more understandable.

bwana39

There is a portion of it that is the unsigned I-910.

It is kind of like the unsigned I-345 in Dallas. Google Maps shows it as well.
Let's build what we need as economically as possible.

Alex

Quote from: bwana39 on July 15, 2024, 08:48:05 PMThere is a portion of it that is the unsigned I-910.

It is kind of like the unsigned I-345 in Dallas. Google Maps shows it as well.

The Google Maps reference is what Steven mentioned two posts prior.

Interstate 910 was meant to be a placeholder for the eventual extension of I-49. LADOTD initially requested to sign the Westbank Expressway as Interstate 49 in May 1999. This also included designating I-49 along the limited access section of U.S. 90 between Berwick and Raceland. The requests were rejected in September 1999 and designating U.S. 90 Business in New Orleans as an Interstate spur was offered instead.

lamsalfl

This is pretty out of the box, but maybe this can be the first social-media driven interstate.  Seeing 910 on google maps, people will get talking "wait what?" and the state sign it to "reduce confusion".    :bigass:

mrsman

Business US 90 is a very weird way to sign a freeway.

Business routes are meant to be the parallel routes (old routes) of roads that one would travel on so that you actually drive by businesses.  A freeway will skip them, a business route will be alongside hotels, gas stations, markets, stores, etc.  For the most part.

Yes, there are some business Interstate routes out there like Biz-80 is Sacramento and a number of green expressways in the Carolinas that are being gotten rid of.  They show an older alignment, but I'm glad that the mileage of these business freeways is essentially shrinking.  [In Sacramento's case only the eastern portion is still signed that way and in NC, some of the signage is being renumbered completely.]

There are some business routes that are partial freeways.  I'm thinking of Biz-83 in York, PA.  George Street through town, but becomes an expressway south of town in its connection to the main I-83.

But Biz-US 90 to be a freeway, when the regular US 90 is not?



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