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AHTD considering a new name

Started by froggie, January 09, 2017, 10:33:27 AM

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TheArkansasRoadgeek

Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
Quote from: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PMThe DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unique to the state of origin.

As opposed to ODOT ;)

MDOT is open to similar objections.  In principle the two-letter state abbreviation can be used as a differentiator (e.g., ALDOT), but for me personally this is a nail-on-blackboard approach, though I am fine with TxDOT and LaDOTD.

There is another possibility in a vein similar to Jake's suggestion upthread:  ADfT or Arkansas Department for Transportation.  And as long as we are looking at names of transportation agencies outside the US as possible templates, then depending on whether AHTD has (or can plausibly be given) broader infrastructural responsibilities, ADTC (Arkansas Department of Transportation and Communications) and ADTI (Arkansas Department of Transportation Infrastructure or Arkansas Department of Transportation and Infrastructure) come to mind as possibilities.

As long as it's ADOT ...too close to IDOT and similar connotations (oops! Outside voice again)

Wouldn't ADOT be conflicting with Arizona?
Well, that's just like your opinion man...


hotdogPi

Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 21, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 21, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
Quote from: US71 on April 20, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PMThe DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unique to the state of origin.

As opposed to ODOT ;)

MDOT is open to similar objections.  In principle the two-letter state abbreviation can be used as a differentiator (e.g., ALDOT), but for me personally this is a nail-on-blackboard approach, though I am fine with TxDOT and LaDOTD.

There is another possibility in a vein similar to Jake's suggestion upthread:  ADfT or Arkansas Department for Transportation.  And as long as we are looking at names of transportation agencies outside the US as possible templates, then depending on whether AHTD has (or can plausibly be given) broader infrastructural responsibilities, ADTC (Arkansas Department of Transportation and Communications) and ADTI (Arkansas Department of Transportation Infrastructure or Arkansas Department of Transportation and Infrastructure) come to mind as possibilities.

As long as it's ADOT ...too close to IDOT and similar connotations (oops! Outside voice again)

Wouldn't ADOT be conflicting with Arizona?

We already have duplicates. ODOT is one, as mentioned earlier in this quote chain.
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Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...
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TheArkansasRoadgeek

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...

I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

jakeroot

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WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

hotdogPi

Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.
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US71

Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...

I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.

ARDOT would be confused with Arizona (which is AZDOT btw)  ;)
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TheArkansasRoadgeek

Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...

I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.

ARDOT would be confused with Arizona (which is AZDOT btw)  ;)

I sware I've heard them use ADOT, weird!
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

US71

Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 22, 2017, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: IDriveArkansas on April 22, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
Of course, Oklahoma DOT started branding itself as OkDOT, so there's only the Oregon and Ohio ODOTs now...

I think that should all go that way. As in, the O states should do, like OhDOT or OrDOT versus just the first initial of that state.

ARDOT would be confused with Arizona (which is AZDOT btw)  ;)

I sware I've heard them use ADOT, weird!

Quick look on the net seems to indicate ADOT and AZDOT are used somewhat interchangeably.

Alaska is ADOT&PF (Dept of Transportation & Public Facilities)
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jakeroot

Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.

No shit. I'm retarded.

I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.

cjk374

Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

Were you thinking of Wisconsin Southern RR (WSOR)? Just a thought.

Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.

No shit. I'm retarded.

I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.
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jakeroot

Quote from: cjk374 on April 23, 2017, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

Were you thinking of Wisconsin Southern RR (WSOR)? Just a thought.

Hmmmm, I don't think so. :-D Never even heard of WSOR. I'm just really, really stupid unfortunately.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.

No shit. I'm retarded.

I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.

WS is the Coast Guard abbreviation for Wisconsin. If you've ever been boating in the state, you'll see the boats' registration numbers starting with WS.
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jakeroot

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on April 23, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 22, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
WSDOT has always annoyed me. WS = Washington State, but it also equals Wisconsin. Luckily Wisconsin uses WisDOT.

Wisconsin is WI; WS means nothing.

No shit. I'm retarded.

I still seem to associate WS with Wisconsin for some reason. I need to go back to school.

WS is the Coast Guard abbreviation for Wisconsin. If you've ever been boating in the state, you'll see the boats' registration numbers starting with WS.

Okay, good, good. I'm feeling slightly less stupid now.

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Scott5114

^ AMORAW is a really weird acronym, but at least it's pronounceable.
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kphoger

AHTD as an acronym sounds like sneezing.

Arkansas Ministry of Roads:  AMOR.  Their logo could be a big heart.
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TheArkansasRoadgeek

Quote from: kphoger on April 24, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
AHTD as an acronym sounds like sneezing.

Arkansas Ministry of Roads:  AMOR.  Their logo could be a big heart.

Ministry... Too UK.
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

J N Winkler

ADOR sort of works with the heart logo too (at least phonetically).
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vdeane

Quote from: Road Hog on April 24, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
ArkDOT, then.
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mvak36

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Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
The DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unquie to the state of origin.

They just changed the Nebraska Department of Roads to Nebraska DOT. https://twitter.com/NDOR/status/857630043677360128

So much for having a unique name lol.
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TheArkansasRoadgeek

Quote from: mvak36 on April 27, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on April 20, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
The DOT part is now overused, so I feel as if AHTD, CalTrans, NE Dept of Roads is unquie to the state of origin.

They just changed the Nebraska Department of Roads to Nebraska DOT. https://twitter.com/NDOR/status/857630043677360128

So much for having a unique name lol.

Wow!  :-D :clap: Just as I was saying that and they go and change it!
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

Henry

DOT is so generic! There are states who get very creative, like AHTD, which is unfortunately going away.
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