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Title: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 04:37:34 PM
This topic came up in conversation in another road chat.  What is the worst level of physical pain you've experienced during your life time? 

Conventional wisdom would suggest that the damage from getting hit by a car in 2010 would be my worst.  Said accident hurt for sure, but concussion symptoms seemed to mitigate the pain I probably have experienced normally from broken ribs, a broken distal radius and road rash on my face.  Interestingly I recall barrel rolling an ATV in 2001 also mitigated the pain of injury due to concussion.

For whatever reason the worst pain I've experienced probably would be associated with stomach issues I had related to a flu during 2016.  I seem to recall pondering several times during the first 36 hours of symptoms how I could possibly be in that level of pain from stomach problems and what the line was for actually going to the ER might be (I never went)?  I don't know what being disemboweled feels like, but I suspect that I had a good analog that year. 
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 02, 2022, 05:15:52 PM
Probably when I scraped a strip of skin from my chin to my forehead off when I got into a bike accident when I was a kid.

Then again, there was that time I broke my wrist playing basketball, didn't know it, and then went into shock that night...

And I just went through some medium-ish surgery this past September, but the pain hasn't been that bad.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2022, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2022, 05:15:52 PM
Then again, there was that time I broke my wrist playing basketball, didn't know it, and then went into shock that night...

I broke my left wrist playing football once when I was tackled with my left wrist hitting a tree.  I tried to deny that I was hurt that bad, and did not think it as broke until I was taken for X-Rays which made it obvious.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: tchafe1978 on October 02, 2022, 06:57:39 PM
In order of severity, I've felt horrible pain three times.
1. I was playing intramural basketball in high school. I had just scored a basket, and was running back up the court backwards to get on defense. I ended up tripping over the half court line, did a sommersault of some sort, and landed awkwardly on my wrist. I felt the pain right away. When I got home my mom made me ice it and tried to make me sleep with it for the night before taking me in to get it checked out. I thought for sure it was broken, it ended up being just a bad sprain.

2. I've had two hernias, both in my groin, one on each side. The hernias themselves weren't that bad, just a little tender and uncomfortble. It was after the surgery to repair each one where I felt terrible pain for 4-5 days until it started to fade away.

3. Since about mid-June I've had pain in my left hip. Went to the doctor to get it checked out. They did x-rays and found I have osteoarthrits, bone spurs, and impingement. Ive been going to physical therapy since August. I've also since developed bursitis on the outside of my hip. There are definitely times where I wonder if it would be better to just take the leg off, lol. Other times it's not so bad. It kind of ebbs and flows. Since the therapy started the pain from the bursitis has subsided somewhat, but the joint pain is still there. I'm probably eventually headed for a hip replacement. So my hip hasn't necessarily been the worst pain I've ever felt, but it is the most prolonged.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 02, 2022, 07:15:42 PM
Gout attacks in both knees. One leg in the summer of 2017, the other in the winter of 2018. Excruciating. i was unable to bend my knee without being in agony.

Also, the sciatica I experienced in the spring of 2017 that resulted in my being overprescribed ibuprofen that landed me in the hospital with acute kidney injury. That was the episode that forced me to cancel the New River Gorge meet.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on October 02, 2022, 07:48:09 PM
Getting a spinal tap to check for bacterial meningitis. Second place was slipping and having my side smash into the corner of a bench.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: dlsterner on October 02, 2022, 09:12:58 PM
Kidney stones.

Have had then (fortunately relatively infrequently) over the past 30 years of so.  Maybe every few years.  But yeah, no fun trying to pee out a small rock.

I've also had some very painful gout attacks, mostly in the big toe joint.  When it swells and is painful to the touch, even trying to put on a shoe can be excruciating.  And even just walking.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MATraveler128 on October 02, 2022, 09:45:57 PM
Broke a leg once when I was a kid, that hurt.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: jp the roadgeek on October 02, 2022, 10:02:33 PM
Definitely gallstones.  Thought it was chronic lactose intolerance and ate a piece of cheese on a sandwich.  3 or 4 hours later I'm in the waiting room at the ER screaming so badly that a cop had to tell me to keep it down.  I eventually passed out before they finally took me.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: US 89 on October 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
This is going to sound weird, but most excruciating pain I've ever experienced has happened a few times and lasted about 15 seconds each time. It involves waking up in the middle of the night to either of my calf muscles contracting as hard as it can for no particular reason. Hurts like absolute hell...and then it's sore for the next several hours of trying to walk on it the next morning. A similar thing sometimes happens in my feet that I can best describe as feeling like my tendons are getting crossed over.

I broke my arm in middle school falling down the stairs. That hurt, yeah, but this is like twice as bad.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on October 02, 2022, 10:34:04 PM
Have been very fortunate (so far) to not have kidney stones. When I was 24 I got hit by a car while riding a bike and fractured my Tibia right down by my ankle.

Had gastric bypass surgery this past February.

The two events were far apart so it's hard to judge which was more painful.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
This is going to sound weird, but most excruciating pain I've ever experienced has happened a few times and lasted about 15 seconds each time. It involves waking up in the middle of the night to either of my calf muscles contracting as hard as it can for no particular reason. Hurts like absolute hell...and then it's sore for the next several hours of trying to walk on it the next morning. A similar thing sometimes happens in my feet that I can best describe as feeling like my tendons are getting crossed over.

I had that happen my entire life on random occasion with my left leg.  I can stop the muscle spasms once I become coherent enough to realize what is actually happening.  That's a little easier said than done when they wake me up from a deep sleep.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 02, 2022, 11:38:24 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
This is going to sound weird, but most excruciating pain I've ever experienced has happened a few times and lasted about 15 seconds each time. It involves waking up in the middle of the night to either of my calf muscles contracting as hard as it can for no particular reason. Hurts like absolute hell...and then it's sore for the next several hours of trying to walk on it the next morning. A similar thing sometimes happens in my feet that I can best describe as feeling like my tendons are getting crossed over.

I had that happen my entire life on random occasion with my left leg.  I can stop the muscle spasms once I become coherent enough to realize what is actually happening.  That's a little easier said than done when they wake me up from a deep sleep.

Don't point your toes.  I used to get cramps in my calves from stretching my legs out in bed.  Ever since I've kept myself from pointing my toes while stretching, the cramps have been much fewer in number -- almost all gone.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: texaskdog on October 03, 2022, 01:31:17 AM
I've been in 5 car accidents where my car got totaled but got lucky every time.  Had to be where I had to take a really bad dump and couldn't find an open toilet.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on October 03, 2022, 02:09:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2022, 11:38:24 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
This is going to sound weird, but most excruciating pain I've ever experienced has happened a few times and lasted about 15 seconds each time. It involves waking up in the middle of the night to either of my calf muscles contracting as hard as it can for no particular reason. Hurts like absolute hell...and then it's sore for the next several hours of trying to walk on it the next morning. A similar thing sometimes happens in my feet that I can best describe as feeling like my tendons are getting crossed over.

I had that happen my entire life on random occasion with my left leg.  I can stop the muscle spasms once I become coherent enough to realize what is actually happening.  That's a little easier said than done when they wake me up from a deep sleep.

Don't point your toes.  I used to get cramps in my calves from stretching my legs out in bed.  Ever since I've kept myself from pointing my toes while stretching, the cramps have been much fewer in number -- almost all gone.

This has happened to me as well, though for my issues I suspected poor hydration may have factored.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: webny99 on October 03, 2022, 08:14:27 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 03, 2022, 02:09:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2022, 11:38:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
This is going to sound weird, but most excruciating pain I've ever experienced has happened a few times and lasted about 15 seconds each time. It involves waking up in the middle of the night to either of my calf muscles contracting as hard as it can for no particular reason. Hurts like absolute hell...and then it's sore for the next several hours of trying to walk on it the next morning. A similar thing sometimes happens in my feet that I can best describe as feeling like my tendons are getting crossed over.

I had that happen my entire life on random occasion with my left leg.  I can stop the muscle spasms once I become coherent enough to realize what is actually happening.  That's a little easier said than done when they wake me up from a deep sleep.

Don't point your toes.  I used to get cramps in my calves from stretching my legs out in bed.  Ever since I've kept myself from pointing my toes while stretching, the cramps have been much fewer in number -- almost all gone.

This has happened to me as well, though for my issues I suspected poor hydration may have factored.

These cramps actually have a name, which I'm surprised no one has mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_horse

I've had a charley horse only once that I can recall.. don't remember anything specific that might have caused it other than being more active than usual the day prior and falling asleep in an uncomfortable position.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: webny99 on October 03, 2022, 08:40:56 AM
I've had three broken bones: upper arm, lower arm, and lower leg (although the latter was so long ago I don't remember it).

The upper arm (humerus) break was the most painful due to the throbbing affecting my neck and head movement. Taking my shirt off became an excruciating task so I tried to do it as little as possible, or wear button up shirts to avoid having to pull over my head. I learned to manage the pain by moving that arm as little as possible, but the first few weeks were pretty rough.

That's the worst pain I can recall experiencing other than maybe hell's itch (https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-the-heck-is-hells-itch/) which I experienced after a trip to the beach several years ago. It was pretty much exactly as described in the article, with intense darts of pain that I could seemingly do nothing to stop or calm down. Fortunately, it was short-lived and had started to subside within a few hours, but it was not a fun experience. I've had several mild sunburns since, but have tried to avoid more than an hour or two of sun exposure at a time, and that's prevented recurrence so far.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 03, 2022, 11:30:08 AM
I've had gout in the big toe before, and it is painful, but I'd trade it for gout in a weight-bearing joint (the knee) in a heartbeat.

I distinctly remember the first time I ever had a leg cramp (Charley horse). I had no idea what was going on, other than knowing it woke me up and hurt like the dickens. I'm prone to cramps in the legs and feet.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: vdeane on October 03, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2022, 11:38:24 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on October 02, 2022, 10:14:43 PM
This is going to sound weird, but most excruciating pain I've ever experienced has happened a few times and lasted about 15 seconds each time. It involves waking up in the middle of the night to either of my calf muscles contracting as hard as it can for no particular reason. Hurts like absolute hell...and then it's sore for the next several hours of trying to walk on it the next morning. A similar thing sometimes happens in my feet that I can best describe as feeling like my tendons are getting crossed over.

I had that happen my entire life on random occasion with my left leg.  I can stop the muscle spasms once I become coherent enough to realize what is actually happening.  That's a little easier said than done when they wake me up from a deep sleep.

Don't point your toes.  I used to get cramps in my calves from stretching my legs out in bed.  Ever since I've kept myself from pointing my toes while stretching, the cramps have been much fewer in number -- almost all gone.
I get that periodically too, always from stretching too far, always subsiding about a minute after relaxing.  The first few times, I thought I pulled a muscle or something.  At least it's gone down now that I've made sure not to stretch that far.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 03, 2022, 01:43:36 PM
I once sliced part of the tip of my thumb off while using a mandoline. That wasn't the worst pain. The worst pain is when it was still bleeding the following morning so I went to urgent care. They told me they were going to put silver nitrate on it to stop the bleeding and that I should lay down on the table when they did it. I told them that I had a pretty high pain tolerance and I could remain sitting and the nurse's quote was, "We catch 8-year-olds. At your age, we let you fall." So I took his advice and as soon as they put it on, I immediately sweated through my shirt and it was pretty excruciating. I was quite glad I was laying down.

I once had something that the doctor diagnosed as "gout? maybe?" in my big toe when I was 17 that hurt like hell too, but the silver nitrate was worse.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: J N Winkler on October 03, 2022, 01:52:48 PM
Potassium deficiency is cited as one of the most common causes of charley horses.  I suspect it is actually more a question of balance of minerals, since I used to have them frequently when I ate bananas (which are rich in potassium) as a late-night fiber snack, only for them to all but stop after I switched to gala apples.  I now take magnesium tablets (partly to control fasciculation) and have gone for months and months without having one.

I have also suffered from proctalgia fugax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proctalgia_fugax).  Although researchers have tried some interesting treatments, such as inserting high-voltage probes into the rectum, I've found episodes become much less frequent if one takes care not to pull on the hairs around the anus when wiping or showering.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 03, 2022, 03:00:05 PM
Bananas didn't make a difference to me.  All about not pointing toes.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2022, 03:15:32 PM
Problem for me is that I become violently ill every time I try to eat a banana.  I suspect that I have a latex allergy.  I don't think potassium is at the root cause given the somewhat random nature of when I get Charley Horses (is that even capitalized?).
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: index on October 03, 2022, 03:20:22 PM
Probably breaking one of my toes by slamming it into the corner of my bed, then tripping on that foot, (no legs or openings, just standing on 5 pieces of wood), then my mother forcing me to run on it for weeks during practice for the sports she forced me to play, because she thought I was lying to get out of practice.

The worst physical discomfort I've ever had that wasn't pain was when I took way too many edibles while in a bad mood and ended up uncontrollably vomiting for a few hours. I then had to go to the ER because I nearly got vomit aspiration, was severely dehydrated, and almost choked to death. It was not the worst experience of my life pain-wise, but it was the worst experience of my life physical comfort-wise and probably the dumbest thing I've ever done.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: J N Winkler on October 03, 2022, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2022, 03:15:32 PMProblem for me is that I become violently ill every time I try to eat a banana.  I suspect that I have a latex allergy.  I don't think potassium is at the root cause given the somewhat random nature of when I get Charley Horses (is that even capitalized?).

Re. capitalization of charley horse, it seems neither word is (I've edited my previous post accordingly).

One way to get more potassium in the diet may be to switch to No Salt (potassium chloride salt substitute), which we now use in lieu of actual salt.

Quote from: Rothman on October 03, 2022, 03:00:05 PMBananas didn't make a difference to me.  All about not pointing toes.

I've always been able to tell when they are about to begin and letting my toes curl has often been all it takes to head them off.  But not eating bananas has pretty much kept them from even starting.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 03, 2022, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 03, 2022, 01:52:48 PMinserting high-voltage probes into the rectum

No thanks. This sounds like the treatment is worse than the affliction.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Bruce on October 03, 2022, 04:25:29 PM
Got hit in the head with a shot put during a middle school track meet. Had to ride the ambulance to a hospital and get some staples for a few weeks. A few weeks on painkillers and now I have a lingering TBI for life.

My only regret is not suing the shit out of the school for improperly marking the waiting area for competitors to be downrange of the thrower. How dumb is that?
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 03, 2022, 04:34:59 PM
I was once skateboarding from orchestra rehearsal to the Metra station in Oak Park (IL) one winter evening.  I stumbled, fell, and put out my hands to break my fall.  I stood up, stretched my arm, and thought about my elbow:  That's gonna hurt later.  I got back on the skateboard, boarded my train, and realized my elbow was starting to get worse rather than better.  So I called my roommate to have him pick me up at the College Avenue station.  When we got home, I asked if I could borrow his car to drive myself to the hospital.  So I did, drove to Central DuPage Hospital.  It turns our I'd broken my elbow.

That was definitely not the worst pain I've felt, but I'm sharing the story to say this:  the worst pain of the entire experience was twisting my arm into the right position and then holding it still for an X-ray at the hospital.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: US 89 on October 03, 2022, 05:43:02 PM
Quotecharley horse

(https://i.imgur.com/7LWtuhf.png)
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Takumi on October 03, 2022, 05:46:15 PM
I once badly strained an oblique by doing the strenuous task of sitting down. I couldn't work for days and every now and then it still acts up on me.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: bandit957 on October 03, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2022, 04:37:34 PM
This topic came up in conversation in another road chat.  What is the worst level of physical pain you've experienced during your life time?

The Great Kidney Stone of April 26, 1999, may be the worst. This was also the same day as the episode of 'Ally McBeal' in which Rosie O'Donnell bubbled.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: bandit957 on October 03, 2022, 05:54:55 PM
Also, when I broke my finger by closing a car door on it on January 25, 2018. I went into Big Lots or something right after it, and then I almost went into shock. Everything looked weird, like that wolf vision effect from the "Electric Avenue" video and a lot of other early '80s items.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: adventurernumber1 on October 03, 2022, 08:46:44 PM
I think the worst sustained pain I've had was when I had an infection a few weeks after getting my wisdom teeth taken out in early Summer of 2021 (which made recovery take even longer). That pain was awful, but I think I've had even more excruciating pain in the form of random spurts that usually don't last more than 5 seconds, but because they're so short (and common) I quickly forget about them after it's over. Lately this has been a problem happening in the bottom of my foot, particularly when walking barefoot on a hard floor. Usually I can't help but yell right when it happens, but it only lasts a few seconds; it is very strange.

I've had other contenders when I was real young such as having the door slammed (accidentally) on my finger, turning the nail a blackish shade temporarily, but that happened so long ago when I was a kid, so the other two things are more at the forefront of my memory and awareness.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: formulanone on October 03, 2022, 09:17:20 PM
When I was 8, I stepped on a golf tee while barefoot. When I noticed it punctured my left foot, I freaked out while trying to remove it, causing it to pierce through the top of my foot. Lots of screaming and blood (thank goodness I'd had nosebleeds before, so I was used to the sight of blood). Pain lasted about two weeks but the random phantom pains lasted a while longer than that.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 03, 2022, 09:26:44 PM
This is quickly becoming my least favorite thread...   ick...   X-(
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: dlsterner on October 03, 2022, 10:07:35 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2022, 09:26:44 PM
This is quickly becoming my least favorite thread...   ick...   X-(

I sense a new topic coming:  "Your least favorite thread on AARoads" ...
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 03, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2022, 09:26:44 PM
This is quickly becoming my least favorite thread...   ick...   X-(
There's nothing quite like shocking a rectum.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2022, 11:08:30 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 03, 2022, 09:17:20 PM
When I was 8, I stepped on a golf tee while barefoot. When I noticed it punctured my left foot, I freaked out while trying to remove it, causing it to pierce through the top of my foot. Lots of screaming and blood (thank goodness I'd had nosebleeds before, so I was used to the sight of blood). Pain lasted about two weeks but the random phantom pains lasted a while longer than that.

I say on a clothing security pin when I had a high dollar shoplifter detained in a Mesa store office.  It hurt substantially, but I played it off like nothing happened and eventually got the pin pulled out.  I'm not sure if the shoplifter saw what happened but one of my investigators did.  I'm surprised nobody got on me about not filing an accident report for that. 
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: ET21 on October 04, 2022, 03:01:52 PM
Obliterating my toe bone after falling down the stairs and slamming said toe into our bureau. There was nothing left of the bone on the X-rays, so surgery/a pin helped reform the bone in the toe.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 04, 2022, 03:25:41 PM
An anal fissure that I had for about a year (by the time the doctors had exhausted all possible remedies other than surgery, we were well on our way to moving to Chicago from DC, and the surgeon I was working with in DC advised me to wait until after I moved to have the surgery, so that I had the continuity of care with one surgeon).

That is a pain I will never forget as long as I live.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: SectorZ on October 04, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
This is turning into the TMI thread.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 04, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on October 04, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
This is turning into the TMI thread.
Nah.  This is a niche butt thread, evidently.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 04, 2022, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 04, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on October 04, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
This is turning into the TMI thread.
Nah.  This is a niche butt thread, evidently.

Or a "pain in the ass"  thread?

Which more or less was the point I was trying to make in the first post.  For whatever reason stomach related issues I've always found to be infinitely more painful than actual injuries.  To that end the stomach issues tend to relieve themselves quickly, but she can feel like imminent death encroaching while present.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 04, 2022, 04:38:57 PM
Reading this thread.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 04, 2022, 04:54:40 PM
When my girlfriend said she needed "space".
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on October 04, 2022, 07:12:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oiuPlW3.png)
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 04, 2022, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 04, 2022, 07:12:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oiuPlW3.png)

Gross
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:05:59 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 03, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2022, 09:26:44 PM
This is quickly becoming my least favorite thread...   ick...   X-(
There's nothing quite like shocking a rectum.
Only hurts the first time.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
Getting into the car, and not realize the boys have moved around in their container. Sat down, and sat right on 'em.

THAT hurt.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 05, 2022, 08:12:54 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
Getting into the car, and not realize the boys have moved around in their container. Sat down, and sat right on 'em.

THAT hurt.
Wut.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: formulanone on October 05, 2022, 08:30:15 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 05, 2022, 08:12:54 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
Getting into the car, and not realize the boys have moved around in their container. Sat down, and sat right on 'em.

THAT hurt.
Wut.

Phrasing
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: index on October 05, 2022, 09:31:07 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on October 04, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
This is turning into the TMI thread.
With exactly what causes pain and suffering I'm not shocked. I kind of expected it, actually.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 05, 2022, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
Getting into the car, and not realize the boys have moved around in their container. Sat down, and sat right on 'em.

THAT hurt.
One time they were shooting Mr. Belvidere, and the guy who plays Mr. Belvidere came in and said "Good morning, everybody" and proceeded to sit on himself, and they had to cancel shooting for the rest of the day.

Just try and tell me the image of Mr. Belvidere sitting on his own nuts isn't hilarious.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Takumi on October 05, 2022, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 05, 2022, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
Getting into the car, and not realize the boys have moved around in their container. Sat down, and sat right on 'em.

THAT hurt.
One time they were shooting Mr. Belvidere, and the guy who plays Mr. Belvidere came in and said "Good morning, everybody" and proceeded to sit on himself, and they had to cancel shooting for the rest of the day.

Just try and tell me the image of Mr. Belvidere sitting on his own nuts isn't hilarious.
I'm imagining Bob Uecker just randomly throwing the story out there during a delay or something in the middle of a Brewers game. "You know, this reminds me of the time..."
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 05, 2022, 12:36:13 PM
I think that I'm missing context.  How hard these nut sits that they are causing enough pain to be brought up in this thread?  I've sat on my nuts plenty of times and a couple shoplifters have even kicked me them.  I assuming that all of this is some sort of epic exception if we are discussing it along side electrocuting butt holes?

Also, the worst thing pain that happened to me during a shoplift apprehension was falling down a flight of ten stairs chasing someone.  Considering that I was bleeding pretty badly I probably scared the shit out of the shoplifter given they were so compliant and oddly understanding.  I was cleaning up the blood from my exposed/scraped skin for about two hours waiting for Scottsdale PD to arrive.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: J N Winkler on October 05, 2022, 01:59:49 PM
Given that the mention of high-voltage probes up the rectum seems to have caught people's attention, I should clarify that I have never actually had this treatment.  For all I know, it could be at least tolerable, since the Wikipedia article mentions gradually raising the voltage to 350 V.

Certain end-of-life conditions can be extremely painful--more so than most of the things mentioned in this thread.  Cancer that has metastasized (especially to the bones) is one example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_pain).  Others include the neuralgias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuralgia) that can develop with late-stage multiple sclerosis.  This kind of pain is very difficult to manage because it cannot be resolved by restoring integrity to the underlying organ systems and is caused in part by changes in how neural signals are telegraphed to the brain.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 05, 2022, 02:28:46 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 05, 2022, 12:36:13 PMHow hard these nut sits that they are causing enough pain to be brought up in this thread?  I've sat on my nuts plenty of times and a couple shoplifters have even kicked me them.
The actor who played Mr. Belvidere was not a small man, and if he plopped down onto them with a heavy sigh, as if he was not about to sit on his nuts, well, that would be pretty painful.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 05, 2022, 02:31:47 PM
^^^

Context noted, thank you.  I couldn't remember what Mr. Belvedere looked like.

Quote from: J N Winkler on October 05, 2022, 01:59:49 PM
Given that the mention of high-voltage probes up the rectum seems to have caught people's attention, I should clarify that I have never actually had this treatment.  For all I know, it could be at least tolerable, since the Wikipedia article mentions gradually raising the voltage to 350 V.

Certain end-of-life conditions can be extremely painful--more so than most of the things mentioned in this thread.  Cancer that has metastasized (especially to the bones) is one example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_pain).  Others include the neuralgias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuralgia) that can develop with late-stage multiple sclerosis.  This kind of pain is very difficult to manage because it cannot be resolved by restoring integrity to the underlying organ systems and is caused in part by changes in how neural signals are telegraphed to the brain.

My mom's lung cancer spread to her bones eventually as it metastasized.  Considering the amount of Fentanyl she was on near the end I can certainly infer cancer in her bones was incredibly painful.  What I witnessed wasn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy. 
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 05, 2022, 03:02:15 PM
For anyone else who doesn't recall what Mr. Belvedere looked like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-GML1pWkww
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 05, 2022, 08:45:12 PM


Quote from: J N Winkler on October 05, 2022, 01:59:49 PM
Given that the mention of high-voltage probes up the rectum seems to have caught people's attention, I should clarify that I have never actually had this treatment.

There's no time like the present.

Thread's about pain that you have personally experienced.

Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on October 05, 2022, 08:52:31 PM
More from the nads: Tugging on your sack when it's cold.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 07, 2022, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 05, 2022, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2022, 08:08:15 AM
Getting into the car, and not realize the boys have moved around in their container. Sat down, and sat right on 'em.

THAT hurt.
One time they were shooting Mr. Belvidere, and the guy who plays Mr. Belvidere came in and said "Good morning, everybody" and proceeded to sit on himself, and they had to cancel shooting for the rest of the day.

Just try and tell me the image of Mr. Belvidere sitting on his own nuts isn't hilarious.

I'm picturing when you sit on a koosh ball or something and it squeezes out in some weird shape.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 07, 2022, 10:53:57 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 05, 2022, 08:52:31 PM
More from the nads: Tugging on your sack when it's cold.
Generally a terrible idea.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: CoreySamson on October 07, 2022, 04:51:06 PM
The worst pain I can distinctly remember was a particularly potent gas pain I had when I was 10 or so. Apparently my reaction was so bad that my parents thought it could have been appendicitis.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Ned Weasel on October 09, 2022, 09:06:46 AM
Okay, since people have already brought up private parts in this thread, the answer for a lot of people here is likely this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22114254/ .  Most of us just don't remember it.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2022, 10:14:54 AM
These aren't so much painful, as just ... weird.

Ever have the stomach condition where your burps smell like farts (where's that pooing-is-cool guy?)?
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kenarmy on October 10, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
Getting two shots in each big toe.. and the needle was at least 8 inches long
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 10, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2022, 10:14:54 AM
These aren't so much painful, as just ... weird.

Ever have the stomach condition where your burps smell like farts (where's that pooing-is-cool guy?)?

I've mentioned this before, but I had a boss who'd undergone a kidney transplant. I think it was one of the anti-rejection drugs he was on, but it could have been an oral medication for any number of physical afflictions from which he suffered, but his burps smelled very bad and very strongly.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 10, 2022, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on October 10, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
Getting two shots in each big toe.. and the needle was at least 8 inches long

Not sure how that worked. My big toe isn't 8 inches thick.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 11, 2022, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 10, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2022, 10:14:54 AM
These aren't so much painful, as just ... weird.

Ever have the stomach condition where your burps smell like farts (where's that pooing-is-cool guy?)?

I've mentioned this before, but I had a boss who'd undergone a kidney transplant. I think it was one of the anti-rejection drugs he was on, but it could have been an oral medication for any number of physical afflictions from which he suffered, but his burps smelled very bad and very strongly.

I take Trulicity and metformin, the combination of which seems to cause this from time to time. Trulicity lowers your blood sugar by removing all will to eat. There are days when I eat a handful of salad croutons, and I'm good.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 11, 2022, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 11, 2022, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 10, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2022, 10:14:54 AM
These aren't so much painful, as just ... weird.

Ever have the stomach condition where your burps smell like farts (where's that pooing-is-cool guy?)?

I've mentioned this before, but I had a boss who'd undergone a kidney transplant. I think it was one of the anti-rejection drugs he was on, but it could have been an oral medication for any number of physical afflictions from which he suffered, but his burps smelled very bad and very strongly.

I take Trulicity and metformin, the combination of which seems to cause this from time to time. Trulicity lowers your blood sugar by removing all will to eat. There are days when I eat a handful of salad croutons, and I'm good.
Ha - Ozempic and metformin over here. It's also sapped me of my will to eat, but I've lost 40 pounds since May, and hopefully once my weight comes down, so will my A1C, and then I can quit taking one or the other.

Hasn't given me foul-smelling gas, though.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 11, 2022, 11:42:03 AM
Add me to the Ozempic list. I, too, noticed a distinct lack of appetite and the tendency to feel fuller sooner and after having eaten (and eaten less than I normally would.) I lost 60 pounds after I first started taking the weekly 0.5-unit Ozempic shots.

In 2020 my thyroid went batty. I'd been taking levothyroxine (Synthroid) for years but for some reason, my TSH levels got way out of whack. I gained every ounce of that back, and more. I had lost a total of 110 pounds from my highest-ever weight, and I gained back to within 35 pounds of that. They got my TSH straightened out with a much larger dose of Synthroid, and increased my dose of Ozempic to 1.0 units a week, and now 2.0 units. The weight is coming off slowly again. I feel like I've lost more than I actually have because my clothes are fitting more loosely. And I'm again noticing that I get full faster. My endocrinologist told me that Ozempic is actually being used as a weight-loss drug.

I have no symptoms of diabetes and never have had any. I'm taking 500 mg of metformin ER twice a day, and also one shot of Basaglar once a day. My A1C has fluctuated over the years, but as of last week it was at 5.7. I'm not sure what medication I might come off of, although i was instructed to reduce the Basaglar if I start having a lot of low blood sugar readings.

I haven't noticed any foul-smelling belches or bad tastes in my mouth.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on October 11, 2022, 11:51:49 AM
Regarding Ozempic, the manufacturer submitted it for approval for weight loss for people who don't have high blood sugar (me) but it didn't get approved. Sounds like it's something that could really help though.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 11, 2022, 12:04:48 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on October 11, 2022, 11:51:49 AMRegarding Ozempic, the manufacturer submitted it for approval for weight loss for people who don't have high blood sugar (me) but it didn't get approved. Sounds like it's something that could really help though.
I tried Saxenda many years ago, and it worked for a few months, but then I stopped feeling the effects and put the weight back on.  There's a new drug called Wegovy that is supposed to have much better long-term success rates that you may want to ask your doctor about. 

Trouble is, there are a lot more options available to you when you're overweight with comorbidities than there are when you're overweight, but otherwise healthy.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JMoses24 on October 11, 2022, 03:48:11 PM
Sepsis episode two, 2007. Thought it had been something I ate. No, my bladder blew up. I was doubled over for hours.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JMoses24 on October 16, 2022, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 11, 2022, 03:48:11 PM
Sepsis episode two, 2007. Thought it had been something I ate. No, my bladder blew up. I was doubled over for hours.

Okay, yesterday topped it. Again, doubled over for hours. I'm 5 days post ostomy reversal, so... what the heck? Turned out the catheter that I now have was clogged and I had 800 ml backed up in my bladder. Yep, that will do it.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on October 16, 2022, 05:43:18 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 16, 2022, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on October 11, 2022, 03:48:11 PM
Sepsis episode two, 2007. Thought it had been something I ate. No, my bladder blew up. I was doubled over for hours.

Okay, yesterday topped it. Again, doubled over for hours. I'm 5 days post ostomy reversal, so... what the heck? Turned out the catheter that I now have was clogged and I had 800 ml backed up in my bladder. Yep, that will do it.
Egads.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kenarmy on October 16, 2022, 11:27:50 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 10, 2022, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on October 10, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
Getting two shots in each big toe.. and the needle was at least 8 inches long

Not sure how that worked. My big toe isn't 8 inches thick.
well ofc I was exaggerating a little.. but it was in the corner of my toe going towards the heel.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 17, 2022, 10:09:37 AM
My worst gastrointestinal pain happened when some co-workers and I went out for a quick lunch at a Pizza Hut buffet.  I scarfed down a bunch of pan pizza with no salad and nothing to drink.  An hour or two later, I had such pain that I had to leave work and spend the rest of the evening curled up in a ball.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: roadman65 on October 17, 2022, 10:20:07 AM
Toothache.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 29, 2022, 11:59:56 AM
Trying to carry on a phone call over WiFi calling ... when the network is satellite internet. Really more of a two-way radio at this point.
(Landline's out)
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: LM117 on October 29, 2022, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2022, 10:20:07 AM
Toothache.

(https://www.kroger.com/product/images/large/front/0030573014718)

Worked like a charm for me.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on October 29, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: LM117 on October 29, 2022, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2022, 10:20:07 AM
Toothache.

(https://www.kroger.com/product/images/large/front/0030573014718)

Worked like a charm for me.

If Advil and Tylenol had a baby...

I can't take ibuprofen. An ibuprofen prescription is what put me in the hospital five years ago with kidney failure. My wife has an ibuprofen prescription and doesn't even want me to touch the bottle.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: LM117 on October 29, 2022, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 29, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: LM117 on October 29, 2022, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2022, 10:20:07 AM
Toothache.

(https://www.kroger.com/product/images/large/front/0030573014718)

Worked like a charm for me.

If Advil and Tylenol had a baby...

I can't take ibuprofen. An ibuprofen prescription is what put me in the hospital five years ago with kidney failure. My wife has an ibuprofen prescription and doesn't even want me to touch the bottle.

My parents can't take ibuprofen, either. My dad is diabetic and takes 1,000mg metformin twice a day, and was told not to take ibuprofen. He's also had some heart damage from a heart attack that he never knew he had until it was detected by an EKG during a visit to his cardiologist, and apparently ibuprofen isn't good for people with heart issues.

My mom can't take it because she has pretty bad hypertension and mild atrial fibrillation that is barely managed with lisinopril and carvedilol. Ibuprofen isn't good for people with hypertension, so it's a no-no. Both my parents also take an 81mg daily aspirin, and mixing more than one NSAID is also a no-no.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JKRhodes on October 29, 2022, 11:16:39 PM
I've lived a pretty accident prone life. At age 4, I stepped on a broken bottle and severed a tendon in my ankle. I've broken bones, and been in a motorcycle accident at 55 mph with no helmet. That being said, I would have to categorize my most severe pain into three categories: Acute, short term and long term:

Acute: The most severe sensation of pain I've experienced in a span of less than 10 seconds took place in 2004  when I volunteered to get shot with a taser for a police demonstration

Short Term: I had lap band surgery in 2011 and had to get it removed in 2013 after it eroded. Following the removal surgery, the repair failed which led to free intra-abdominal air and 70% blood loss. The hospital's rapid response team responded to stabilize me and keep me from passing away. I underwent a second operation to re-repair the hole , took a blood transfusion, and ended up septic and distended with an ileus that took longer than normal to resolve. A combination of pressure, sharp pain and fatigue ensued for approximately two weeks. Nurses gave me dilaudid intravenously every two hours. Each dose took the edge off of the pain for twenty minutes, then I would suffer for an hour and 40 minutes until my next dose was authorized.

Long Term, and most recently (may 2022), I was cutting steel with a grinder when a hot spark made it past all of my PPE and lodged in my cornea 2mm away from my pupil. My eye doctor removed the metal with a needle and ground out the rust with a diamond burr. He also debrided all of the epithelium off of my cornea with a cotton swab to ensure even healing and applied a pressure eyepatch. This was all done under local anesthetic eyedrops. After the numbing wore off, I endured three days of pure hell. To this day, I wake up early every morning with recurring corneal erosions which sting like hell and cause my left eye to water profusely Most days, it resolves an hour or two after I wake up and start my day. I'm on a regimen of systane drops, systane gel and muro 128 drops. I have an appointment next week to re-examine my eye and pursue further treatment options.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: JKRhodes on October 29, 2022, 11:16:39 PM
I've ... been in a motorcycle accident at 55 mph with no helmet.

Were you wearing leather?  I once knew a motorcyclist who was "meh" about helmets but was an avid supporter of wearing leather while riding.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JKRhodes on October 31, 2022, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: JKRhodes on October 29, 2022, 11:16:39 PM
I've ... been in a motorcycle accident at 55 mph with no helmet.

Were you wearing leather?  I once knew a motorcyclist who was "meh" about helmets but was an avid supporter of wearing leather while riding.

I espouse that mentality 100% as well. My mentality (supported by a somewhat famous article penned by ABATE) was that helmets hinder situational awareness and lead to a false sense of security and risk taking in exchange for a minimal reduction in blunt impact force.

I was wearing a  leather riding jacket, jeans, and skater shoes. Minimal damage to my torso. Two lacerations in my forehead, a laceration in my right elbow where the jacket ground through , a deep abrasion on my right knee and a few scraped on my hands and feet. No brain injury, just a deep contusion on the side of my face and a total of 35 stitches.

Despite my anti helmet argument, it's not lost on me that I was extremely blessed to survive the crash.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Laura on October 31, 2022, 04:17:49 PM
It sounds strange to say, but I actually don't know how to answer this question. I gave birth to my daughter in 2019, but that was only 14 hours of active labor pain. Yeah it was painful as I did it unmedicated except for some nitrous oxide, but it was only 14 hours long. The reality is that I've lived with an always existent low level of chronic pain every single day since 2015.

Long story short is that I have a condition called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) where my connective tissue (and therefore joints) are too hypermobile so my muscles tighten to hold my body together in one piece. It's genetic and runs in my family and I've had issues my whole life but it didn't become a major issue until my late 20s. I've sprained my ankles collectively eight times (5 on right, 3 on left), my left knee once and my right IT band once. I've gotten dequervain's tenosynovitis in my right wrist three times and tendinitis in my feet three times (2 in right, 1 in left). I've broken my left elbow once and my left wrist once. My hips have constant subluxations (right side more than left). When I was pregnant my sacrum kept subluxating and my physical therapist had to literally push it (and daughter) back into place. I can trigger charley horses in my legs and feet AT WILL because my tendons are too short. I have curly toes as a result. 

I've had YEARS of physical therapy. I had to have physical therapy on my pelvic floor in order to be able to have sexual intercourse (which makes for a very unconventional infertility story!) and was unable to have pain-free intercourse until this calendar year! This was as a result of vaginismus and vulvodynia. I've had to have physical therapy for TMJ and my neck and shoulders (right side more than left). My neck and jaw used to lock into place which was scary and super painful.

EDS is also connected to my irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). I can't eat gluten or dairy unless I want to be in a world of pain later. I eat very little sugar and stick to a low carb way of eating because doing so greatly reduces inflammation and pain in my body. However, this only puts it into remission - when I get sick with things like the flu and covid the pain comes roaring back. Even still, my stomach is sensitive and for no reason I will randomly get pain from "safe" foods. I also randomly get migraines, although they're probably tied to the jaw issues.

So, um, yeah, it's pretty amazing that I'm able to function as much as I am. I've had to design my own workout programs over the years because I often have to work up to the beginner level of things over and over again. Just this 2022 I had to start over with running after dealing with the worst of long covid for 4 months. But staying active and slowly building my muscles helps build them up correctly for holding my body together.

So worst pain...I'd say basically the period of time between Summer 2015 - Fall 2017. That's when everything was "new" and lots of foods made me constantly sick and I hadn't been through much physical therapy yet and hadn't stopped eating sugar yet.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: Laura on October 31, 2022, 04:17:49 PM
I've had YEARS of physical therapy. I had to have physical therapy on my pelvic floor in order to be able to have sexual intercourse (which makes for a very unconventional infertility story!) and was unable to have pain-free intercourse until this calendar year! This was as a result of vaginismus and vulvodynia.

I know a lot of people probably consider that TMI, but please allow me to offer my congratulations on getting past it this year.  I hope the pain doesn't return for you.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Laura on October 31, 2022, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: Laura on October 31, 2022, 04:17:49 PM
I've had YEARS of physical therapy. I had to have physical therapy on my pelvic floor in order to be able to have sexual intercourse (which makes for a very unconventional infertility story!) and was unable to have pain-free intercourse until this calendar year! This was as a result of vaginismus and vulvodynia.

I know a lot of people probably consider that TMI, but please allow me to offer my congratulations on getting past it this year.  I hope the pain doesn't return for you.

Thank you so much!!! I'm very open about my health journey, especially that part, because so many women suffer in silence thinking it's normal. I did for years because even my (then) gynecologist told me that I just needed to relax, have some wine, and accept that pain is normal for some women. I had to find out about pelvic floor physical therapy from the internet, and when I reported back to her that "OMG GUESS WHAT I found out that pelvic floor physical therapy exists and could help me!!!" she said nonchalantly "Oh I know." I was floored. SHE KNEW about it but didn't recommend it to me "because most women don't want to do that." Needless to say, that was my last visit with her as a patient.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 04:41:33 PM
I'm also happy for your Mr.  That's got to be a joy for him as well.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on October 31, 2022, 05:59:53 PM
Quote from: Laura on October 31, 2022, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: Laura on October 31, 2022, 04:17:49 PM
I've had YEARS of physical therapy. I had to have physical therapy on my pelvic floor in order to be able to have sexual intercourse (which makes for a very unconventional infertility story!) and was unable to have pain-free intercourse until this calendar year! This was as a result of vaginismus and vulvodynia.

I know a lot of people probably consider that TMI, but please allow me to offer my congratulations on getting past it this year.  I hope the pain doesn't return for you.

Thank you so much!!! I'm very open about my health journey, especially that part, because so many women suffer in silence thinking it's normal. I did for years because even my (then) gynecologist told me that I just needed to relax, have some wine, and accept that pain is normal for some women. I had to find out about pelvic floor physical therapy from the internet, and when I reported back to her that "OMG GUESS WHAT I found out that pelvic floor physical therapy exists and could help me!!!" she said nonchalantly "Oh I know." I was floored. SHE KNEW about it but didn't recommend it to me "because most women don't want to do that." Needless to say, that was my last visit with her as a patient.

Physicians that let their preconceived biases affect the courses of treatment they offer patients are unfortunately all too common (especially when the patient is female, for some reason). My wife has run into similar problems getting her migraines treated. She's had doctors refuse her treatment because they think she's a drug seeker and had a doctor who seemed to think the only thing that would help her is losing weight. She was finally able to get in with a doctor who is actually interested in helping.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: abefroman329 on October 31, 2022, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 31, 2022, 04:25:24 PMa lot of people probably consider that TMI
A lot of people need to grow the fuck up.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on November 01, 2022, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 31, 2022, 05:59:53 PM
Physicians that let their preconceived biases affect the courses of treatment they offer patients are unfortunately all too common ...

Whenever I hear the phrase "so ask your doctor about" on TV ads, I think to myself:  That's backward:  my job is to tell the doctor what ails me, and it's my doctor's job to tell me about treatment options.  And then I hear a story like Laura's...

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 31, 2022, 05:59:53 PM
My wife has run into similar problems getting her migraines treated. She's had doctors refuse her treatment because they think she's a drug seeker ...

It's all too easy to get jaded because of all the people who really are drug seekers.  My mom worked in hospitals and clinics all her pre-retirement life, and my impression from her is that it's especially hard at locations that tend to draw a lot of drug seekers to begin with.

I don't doubt that women face obstacles of prejudice, but it would surprise me if migraine treatment were specifically one of them.  My first inclination is to think that, because migraines are so much more common among women, doctors would be more suspicious of men seeking migraine medication.  (Ironically, the only person I know who suffers from chronic migraines is male, and he can get headaches that last weeks at a time.  In contrast, I can count the number of migraines my wife has had on one hand, and they've never lasted more than a few hours.)
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
I would submit that the amount of harm that comes about by giving a drug seeker drugs is probably less than the harm that would come from withholding them from someone who actually needs them. Or, at the very least, that the patient who is need of medication has a more compelling interest than the interest in keeping drugs from drug seekers.

Doctors who aren't migraine specialists seem to think that migraines are made up. Actually, that's a problem migraine sufferers have in general–people who think "migraine" is a synonym for "really bad headache", when a migraine has a whole host of secondary symptoms besides just the headache. (This is so deeply entrenched that Excedrin makes a strong version of their product called "Excedrin Migraine", which is pharmacologically unsuitable for treating migraines; like all Excedrin products it is an NSAID, which tends to make actual migraines worse.) You basically have to find a neurologist who narrowly focuses on migraines specifically to get any actual help. The doctor whose solution to everything in life was "just lose weight" was a board-certified neurologist, but was still incompetent to treat a migraine patient.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: formulanone on November 01, 2022, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
I would submit that the amount of harm that comes about by giving a drug seeker drugs is probably less than the harm that would come from withholding them from someone who actually needs them. Or, at the very least, that the patient who is need of medication has a more compelling interest than the interest in keeping drugs from drug seekers.

Freedoms are cut at the root of today's most pressing outlier, whether real or imaginary.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: J N Winkler on November 01, 2022, 02:01:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 01, 2022, 09:47:12 AMWhenever I hear the phrase "so ask your doctor about" on TV ads, I think to myself:  That's backward:  my job is to tell the doctor what ails me, and it's my doctor's job to tell me about treatment options.  And then I hear a story like Laura's...

Allowing prescription drugs to be advertised on TV is in itself grotesquely backward.

Quote from: kphoger on November 01, 2022, 09:47:12 AMI don't doubt that women face obstacles of prejudice, but it would surprise me if migraine treatment were specifically one of them.

It doesn't surprise me, simply because devaluation of women's pain is so widespread in medicine in general.  The aspect of Laura's story that caught my eye was not that she was shined on when she sought treatment for pelvic pain, but rather that the gynecologist involved was a woman, given the starting assumption that a female physician is less likely to buy into internalized misogyny.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: US 89 on November 02, 2022, 01:10:42 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
Doctors who aren't migraine specialists seem to think that migraines are made up. Actually, that's a problem migraine sufferers have in general–people who think "migraine" is a synonym for "really bad headache", when a migraine has a whole host of secondary symptoms besides just the headache. (This is so deeply entrenched that Excedrin makes a strong version of their product called "Excedrin Migraine", which is pharmacologically unsuitable for treating migraines; like all Excedrin products it is an NSAID, which tends to make actual migraines worse.) You basically have to find a neurologist who narrowly focuses on migraines specifically to get any actual help. The doctor whose solution to everything in life was "just lose weight" was a board-certified neurologist, but was still incompetent to treat a migraine patient.

Huh? My brother gets migraines on occasion, and he's been told the big key to stopping them is to take an Advil (NSAID) quickly before it goes too far. And in his experience, that has worked. If he doesn't do that and is dehydrated enough, he might completely faint. That's happened in a couple of very interesting places, including a ski lodge and the front office of his middle school.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: webny99 on November 02, 2022, 10:05:06 AM
I must confess to not knowing that migraines were different than really bad headaches. I used to get migraines, or at least what I called migraines, quite often in elementary and middle school. I still get them occasionally, but much less often. They usually develop in the afternoon or evening, so I don't usually treat it other than to sleep it off if it's really bad. Fortunately I've never fainted though, and never had one last for more than a day.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: US 89 on November 02, 2022, 01:10:42 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
Doctors who aren't migraine specialists seem to think that migraines are made up. Actually, that's a problem migraine sufferers have in general–people who think "migraine" is a synonym for "really bad headache", when a migraine has a whole host of secondary symptoms besides just the headache. (This is so deeply entrenched that Excedrin makes a strong version of their product called "Excedrin Migraine", which is pharmacologically unsuitable for treating migraines; like all Excedrin products it is an NSAID, which tends to make actual migraines worse.) You basically have to find a neurologist who narrowly focuses on migraines specifically to get any actual help. The doctor whose solution to everything in life was "just lose weight" was a board-certified neurologist, but was still incompetent to treat a migraine patient.

Huh? My brother gets migraines on occasion, and he's been told the big key to stopping them is to take an Advil (NSAID) quickly before it goes too far. And in his experience, that has worked. If he doesn't do that and is dehydrated enough, he might completely faint. That's happened in a couple of very interesting places, including a ski lodge and the front office of his middle school.

"Don't ever take an NSAID for a migraine because it will make it worse" is what the most prominent migraine doctor in Oklahoma has told my wife. It's possible that she has a different type of migraine than your brother, or perhaps your brother's condition isn't actually migraines but something else that has a bad headache as a symptom (I don't seem to remember fainting being on the list of possible migraine symptoms; it's not one my wife has). Or it's possible that the best migraine doctor in Oklahoma is total shit compared to the doctors in your state. Or maybe he was specifically talking about one type of NSAID (acetaminophen, maybe?) and I'm misremembering it as all NSAIDs. I don't know enough about medicine to say for sure one way or the other.

Quote from: webny99 on November 02, 2022, 10:05:06 AM
I must confess to not knowing that migraines were different than really bad headaches. I used to get migraines, or at least what I called migraines, quite often in elementary and middle school. I still get them occasionally, but much less often. They usually develop in the afternoon or evening, so I don't usually treat it other than to sleep it off if it's really bad. Fortunately I've never fainted though, and never had one last for more than a day.

Generally, besides the headache, other common migraine symptoms are nausea, sensitivity to light and sound, and "auras" (which Mayo Clinic describes as "flashes of light, blind spots, and other vision changes or tingling in your hand or face").

My wife's migraines often last for a week or more at a time. Although it's really hard to tell when one stops and the next one starts. It's easier to count the days when she doesn't have a migraine rather than when she does.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: webny99 on November 02, 2022, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: webny99 on November 02, 2022, 10:05:06 AM
I must confess to not knowing that migraines were different than really bad headaches. I used to get migraines, or at least what I called migraines, quite often in elementary and middle school. I still get them occasionally, but much less often. They usually develop in the afternoon or evening, so I don't usually treat it other than to sleep it off if it's really bad. Fortunately I've never fainted though, and never had one last for more than a day.

Generally, besides the headache, other common migraine symptoms are nausea, sensitivity to light and sound, and "auras" (which Mayo Clinic describes as "flashes of light, blind spots, and other vision changes or tingling in your hand or face").

My wife's migraines often last for a week or more at a time. Although it's really hard to tell when one stops and the next one starts. It's easier to count the days when she doesn't have a migraine rather than when she does.

Yep, sensitivity to sound and especially light are symptoms I've had as well. There have been times when I felt nauseous as well, but fortunately that hasn't happened in several years.

I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully you're able to find some sort of treatment because that sounds like no fun at all.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on November 02, 2022, 10:52:30 AM
Considering that the cause(s) of migraines isn't well understood, and that the definition of it is based more on symptoms than anything else, it's completely reasonable to think that what works to kick it for one person might make it worse for another person.  My wife has to take Advil right away, at the first sign (which for her is shimmering in her peripheral vision), and then lie down in the dark.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 12:52:28 PM
I checked with my wife, and she specified that what her doctor told her was that NSAIDs make rebound headaches more likely. That is, her doctor is worried that having too much of a NSAID in her system (i.e. the amount needed to make a severe headache to go away) will cause her body to react by giving her another headache. This, of course, would just lead to a spiral of more and more headaches.

I suppose if a person can take a small enough dose of a NSAID to avoid a rebound headache and still end the initial migraine, it's probably actually helpful. It's just that my wife's migraines are bad enough that's not possible, so she has to use non-NSAID medications like tryptans. And not all NSAIDs are equally likely to cause a rebound–naproxen (Aleve) is less likely to than ibuprofen (Advil) is. 
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on November 02, 2022, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 12:52:28 PM
I checked with my wife, and she specified that what her doctor told her was that NSAIDs make rebound headaches more likely. That is, her doctor is worried that having too much of a NSAID in her system (i.e. the amount needed to make a severe headache to go away) will cause her body to react by giving her another headache. This, of course, would just lead to a spiral of more and more headaches.

I believe that's in line with current medical understanding of migraines.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: adventurernumber1 on November 02, 2022, 09:55:55 PM
Thankfully I've never had migraines, but my dad does occasionally. The migraines are usually the worst whenever we're at a high altitude (such as a trip to Colorado in the mountains). He avoids eating certain things such as chocolate because those have been triggers in the past, and is very diligent (my mom baked cookies for Halloween that were mainly chocolate chip but also made a batch of peanut butter cookies for my dad). Migraines are definitely an extra league than normal headaches and are surely not fun in the least.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: TMETSJETSYT on November 15, 2022, 10:25:30 AM
The worst pain ive ever experienced was when I had strep throat, and when I swallowed, not only did my throat hurt, but the pain would travel from my throat to my ear, and it would hurt like hell. Honestly I feel like breaking my wrist (which I did a few months prior) was not nearly as bad as my strep throat that turned into an ear infection at the same time basically.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: XamotCGC on November 15, 2022, 09:03:56 PM
Kidney Stone
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on January 03, 2023, 12:04:27 PM
Early on the morning of the 29th, I set out on one final clinching trip for the year, planning on picking off several Iowa counties as well as IL 5 in Rock Island and a nice chunk of US 34. I thought all the ice had melted on my driveway but I found the one patch that didn't. I broke my fall with my left arm, which knocked my humerus completely out of its socket and fractured it in two spots. It required surgery and a splint for 6 weeks and even then I might still need a shoulder replacement. Worst part is that I'm left handed, but in any case no driving for me for quite a while. Also having to type one handed so probably significantly less posting for a while too.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Hunty2022 on January 03, 2023, 01:35:44 PM
I got one of my fingers slammed in a door a few years ago, blood all over my finger.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: bing101 on January 03, 2023, 01:39:58 PM
I went through a near death experience at work one time and it was the worst I experienced.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: TMETSJETSYT on November 15, 2022, 10:25:30 AM
The worst pain ive ever experienced was when I had strep throat, and when I swallowed, not only did my throat hurt, but the pain would travel from my throat to my ear, and it would hurt like hell. Honestly I feel like breaking my wrist (which I did a few months prior) was not nearly as bad as my strep throat that turned into an ear infection at the same time basically.

Covid was like that for me back in July. Was actually in the hospital for 2 days due to extreme dehydration from just not being able to get a sip of water down. Also had diaherrea and vomiting, one time with blood in it. Blood pressure spiked at 179/116. I never got the booster, but did get both pfizer shots. Didn't prevent hospitalization or reduce symptom severity. And I was 22 with no physical health problems and still got an agonizing sore throat and a 102.5 fever (may have been higher before they measured it). Needed prescription pain and nausea medication and IV fluids, which all worked well.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 02:11:57 PM
Didn't prevent hospitalization or reduce symptom severity.

Just jumping in here to say that it's impossible to know if it reduced symptom severity, because your getting the disease without having gotten the vaccine is a complete hypothetical that cannot be compared to reality.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 02:47:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 02:11:57 PM
Didn't prevent hospitalization or reduce symptom severity.

Just jumping in here to say that it's impossible to know if it reduced symptom severity, because your getting the disease without having gotten the vaccine is a complete hypothetical that cannot be compared to reality.

But I did get the vaccine, just not more than 2 shots. Just because I wasn't on a ventilator doesn't mean they made it mild instead of severe.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 02:47:13 PM

Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 02:36:39 PM

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 02:11:57 PM
Didn't prevent hospitalization or reduce symptom severity.

Just jumping in here to say that it's impossible to know if it reduced symptom severity, because your getting the disease without having gotten the vaccine is a complete hypothetical that cannot be compared to reality.

But I did get the vaccine, just not more than 2 shots. Just because I wasn't on a ventilator doesn't mean they made it mild instead of severe.

I know.  You were implying that having had the two shots did not reduce the severity of your symptoms.  You have no way of knowing that.  It's entirely possible that your COVID case would have been even more severe, had you not been vaccinated.  It's also entirely possible that it wouldn't have.  My point is that it's impossible to know.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 03:08:31 PM
Well they did make it sound like getting at least 2 doses would make your illness very mild and tolerable. As for how much worse it could have been there's no way to know, but given the "average severity" of a covid case even before the vaccine, I doubt my case was mild with the vaccine.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 03, 2023, 03:11:09 PM
Thing is, you have no baseline for how you would have felt with no vaccine or with a booster.  So how can you tangibly fully measure the affects of COVID on yourself when your data set is incomplete?
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
All I can say is I was violently ill. They made it seem like you would get only a very mild cold if you were fully vaccinated, and I got much more than that. I've gotten severe colds and it was worse than that, let alone a mild cold. I have no baseline to compare, but it seemed excessive for a disease I was supposedly "fully vaccinated" against, regardless of how I would have gotten it without the vaccine.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: CtrlAltDel on January 03, 2023, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: XamotCGC on November 15, 2022, 09:03:56 PM
Kidney Stone

You ain't whistlin' dixie.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: formulanone on January 03, 2023, 04:55:19 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 03:08:31 PM
Well they did make it sound like getting at least 2 doses would make your illness very mild and tolerable. As for how much worse it could have been there's no way to know, but given the "average severity" of a covid case even before the vaccine, I doubt my case was mild with the vaccine.

That's the thing, COVID-19 had similar symptoms but reactions to it were much more unique from individual to individual. For some, it was a "common cold" that didn't even rank in the worst Top 10 of their personal illnesses. And for others, several days in the hospital, months of lingering symptoms, and even death. What we do know is that the vaccines seemed to quell the curve and greatly reduce the harsher side-effects of COVID-19. And there's no promise of 100% vaccine efficacy in all circumstances.

For me, it sucked for two days, but it then it was just an annoyance for a few days. My brother was laid out for two weeks. A buddy of mine was sick for a month. A co-worker of mine had zero symptoms but kept testing positive for two months (which kept putting off some necessary surgery). My kids' former teacher died as a result. From a health and well-being standpoint, everyone is different.

Quote from: bing101 on January 03, 2023, 01:39:58 PM
I went through a near death experience at work one time and it was the worst I experienced.

Not sure if this bears more discussion or not, but that's a personal choice. Hopefully you've had much more positive experiences from here on out, and came out stronger than what tested you in the first place.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on January 03, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
For what it's worth, my wife has tested positive for covid twice–once before the vaccine was invented, once after. The first time I had it too, and it felt way worse than a cold. Mostly I remember the fever and whole-body soreness that felt like I had been working out every muscle in my body. After getting the vaccine, my wife tested positive after a coworker came down with it. My wife was entirely asymptomatic, and I didn't catch it from her at all despite her quarantining across the hall from me.

Now, this isn't a 100% scientific study because, among other things, they were different strains (alpha vs. omicron). But it was sufficient evidence for us to keep up with our boosters as recommended.

Anyway, although covid sucked and I don't want to get it again, it wasn't the worst pain I ever experienced. (Or even the worst illness–I think that was having strep.)
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 05:19:48 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
All I can say is I was violently ill.

Then that's all you should have said.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MikieTimT on January 05, 2023, 02:43:24 PM
2nd worst pain: broken nose
Worst pain: surgical procedure to correct said broken nose the next day

Went into shock shortly after the broken nose, so didn't bother me all that much other than obstructed view from my right eye.

The whole broken nose setting process consisted of a small hammer and some tongs up the nose before packing it with gauze until healed.

Done under local anesthesia.  Coincidentally, the only time I have partaken in the usage of cocaine.  Can't say that it did much for me, or that it was a particularly great anesthetic, but given that I don't have a point of reference of the same procedure without it, maybe it did great for all I know.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 03, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
For what it's worth, my wife has tested positive for covid twice–once before the vaccine was invented, once after. The first time I had it too, and it felt way worse than a cold. Mostly I remember the fever and whole-body soreness that felt like I had been working out every muscle in my body. After getting the vaccine, my wife tested positive after a coworker came down with it. My wife was entirely asymptomatic, and I didn't catch it from her at all despite her quarantining across the hall from me.

Now, this isn't a 100% scientific study because, among other things, they were different strains (alpha vs. omicron). But it was sufficient evidence for us to keep up with our boosters as recommended.

Anyway, although covid sucked and I don't want to get it again, it wasn't the worst pain I ever experienced. (Or even the worst illness–I think that was having strep.)

Yeah, well the vaccine didn't do shit. You don't get 3+ polio vaccines and then still get a mild, let alone moderate, case of polio. Never got a booster after that, and never will.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:25:31 PM
Yeah, well the vaccine didn't do shit.

See below.

Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 02:54:36 PM
You have no way of knowing that.  It's entirely possible that your COVID case would have been even more severe, had you not been vaccinated.  It's also entirely possible that it wouldn't have.  My point is that it's impossible to know.

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 03, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
All I can say is I was violently ill.

Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2023, 05:19:48 PM
Then that's all you should have said.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:47:18 PM
Well then they shouldn't call it a vaccine. Vaccines are supposed to make you immune to a disease, not reduce its severity by 1%.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: skluth on January 05, 2023, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 03, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
For what it's worth, my wife has tested positive for covid twice–once before the vaccine was invented, once after. The first time I had it too, and it felt way worse than a cold. Mostly I remember the fever and whole-body soreness that felt like I had been working out every muscle in my body. After getting the vaccine, my wife tested positive after a coworker came down with it. My wife was entirely asymptomatic, and I didn't catch it from her at all despite her quarantining across the hall from me.

Now, this isn't a 100% scientific study because, among other things, they were different strains (alpha vs. omicron). But it was sufficient evidence for us to keep up with our boosters as recommended.

Anyway, although covid sucked and I don't want to get it again, it wasn't the worst pain I ever experienced. (Or even the worst illness–I think that was having strep.)

Yeah, well the vaccine didn't do shit. You don't get 3+ polio vaccines and then still get a mild, let alone moderate, case of polio. Never got a booster after that, and never will.

Vaccines have varying levels of efficacy. The flu vaccine isn't the greatest either, but after missing a week of work in the mid-90's to an extremely potent mutation I get my shot every year. I've still gotten the flu a couple times but at least I haven't gotten another +104° fever when I've had the flu since then. Not every vaccine is as effective as the polio or smallpox vaccines.

We're still in the early days of mRNA vaccines. I expect their efficacy to improve as we better understand them. I'm 66 and have a compromised immune system thanks to Guillain-Barré. I've gotten two boosters and am curious how they'll mark my card for another. Maybe I'll get a toaster oven.  :-D
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:51:46 PM
The flu shots efficacy rate is at least 30+%.

4 covid shots in a year to only reduce symptom severity by a few%, with each shot having uncomfortable side effects for days doesn't seem worth it to me. I've never heard of another vaccine series where 4 were required in such a short time period.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:47:18 PM
Well then they shouldn't call it a vaccine. Vaccines are supposed to make you immune to a disease, not reduce its severity by 1%.

List all of the vaccines you can think of that are 100% effective for 100% of the population.

Go.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:57:28 PM
MMR

Oh oops that's "only" 93%.

So...  one.

Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:57:28 PM
But seriously, name one other vaccine series that after getting 4 doses in a 1 year period, you still end up in the hospital with severe symptoms.

Most people didn't.  How is this hard for your to understand?
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JayhawkCO on January 05, 2023, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 03, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
For what it's worth, my wife has tested positive for covid twice–once before the vaccine was invented, once after. The first time I had it too, and it felt way worse than a cold. Mostly I remember the fever and whole-body soreness that felt like I had been working out every muscle in my body. After getting the vaccine, my wife tested positive after a coworker came down with it. My wife was entirely asymptomatic, and I didn't catch it from her at all despite her quarantining across the hall from me.

Now, this isn't a 100% scientific study because, among other things, they were different strains (alpha vs. omicron). But it was sufficient evidence for us to keep up with our boosters as recommended.

Anyway, although covid sucked and I don't want to get it again, it wasn't the worst pain I ever experienced. (Or even the worst illness–I think that was having strep.)

Yeah, well the vaccine didn't do shit. You don't get 3+ polio vaccines and then still get a mild, let alone moderate, case of polio. Never got a booster after that, and never will.

I'll be the blunt one and say it. You could have died. Perhaps the vaccine saved your life. I'd say that would be the more severe version of the disease that you got.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 05:30:39 PM
Well given how horrible the suffering was, that's too bad, maybe I shouldn't have gotten it. It felt like a severe case of strep throat with some congestion, but not much respiratory symptoms, so I doubt I would have died in either case. If that's their new definition of a vaccine, than I do not plan on getting anymore any time soon. Vaccines are supposed to prevent you from getting sick, not only stop the worst 2% of cases.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: adventurernumber1 on January 05, 2023, 05:36:35 PM
Death < Permanent Damage < Ventilator < Otherwise miserable hospital stay < Miserable time at home < Mild and annoying symptoms at home < Minor but noticeable symptoms at home < No symptoms

If you have not had to endure the three very bad scenarios with bold or underlined font, then that probably means the vaccine did a damn good job. COVID is an ugly, unpredictable, and vicious monster that treats every individual person differently. Some people are exceptionally lucky, some people are exceptionally unlucky, and some people fall somewhere in between. Getting a vaccine increases your chances of being lucky and decreases your chances of having to endure any of the three dreaded scenarios that would make someone exceptionally unlucky. Count being on a ventilator as something that is undoubtedly on my anti-bucket list for life -- that meaning as of yet I have been lucky enough to have never endured one in my life, and I sincerely hope that I will never need to (unfortunately unlikely). Flu and the now-omnipresent COVID viruses are notorious for their rapid mutation and many variants -- that is the reason why the vaccine may not have as high efficacy as compared to others such as the Polio vaccine. It doesn't mean the vaccines don't work, because they absolutely do; it just doesn't guarantee nothing will happen, but it certainly increases your odds and favor that you will handle the virus better compared to without a vaccine.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JayhawkCO on January 05, 2023, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 05:30:39 PM
Well given how horrible the suffering was, that's too bad, maybe I shouldn't have gotten it. It felt like a severe case of strep throat with some congestion, but not much respiratory symptoms, so I doubt I would have died in either case. If that's their new definition of a vaccine, than I do not plan on getting anymore any time soon. Vaccines are supposed to prevent you from getting sick, not only stop the worst 2% of cases.

It looks like you, not scientists, are the one coming up with the "new definition of a vaccine".
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 05:47:16 PM
I prioritize suffering relief over death. That's why in my only other hospital stay in my life, for a GI problem, I made sure to exaggerate my pain level to whatever the minimum threshold was to be given the morphine(they thought only 7+ out of 10 warranted it LOL) and it worked great as a result, no negative side effects either. My normal 4 was now a 7, normal 7 a 9, and a normal 10 a 15. Too bad, if they weren't so paranoid about Opioids I wouldn't have to do that. But as for covid, I was about to say maybe it was the variant that the vaccine didn't protect against. I think I tested positive for Omicron, I don't remember, but in that case it's still good I didn't get the boosters up until that point because they weren't designed for omicron yet, maybe not even delta at that point. I might consider getting an omicron specific booster, but am not going to get a new shot every 2 months for every new variant (assuming they could even keep up).

@Jayhalk, nowhere does it say the definition of a vaccine is only to prevent death from a disease. Only for this disease did they change their definition. And given how many covid cases are mild even without the vaccine, I definitely shouldn't have gotten a case so much worse than average, with the vaccine. A 100% survivable rate instead of 98% doesn't make something worthy of being called a "cure" or even a vaccine.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
See my original post, food poisoning and stomach issues are something I've consistently found to be more painful than broken bones (or being run over by a car).
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 05:55:03 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 03, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
For what it's worth, my wife has tested positive for covid twice–once before the vaccine was invented, once after. The first time I had it too, and it felt way worse than a cold. Mostly I remember the fever and whole-body soreness that felt like I had been working out every muscle in my body. After getting the vaccine, my wife tested positive after a coworker came down with it. My wife was entirely asymptomatic, and I didn't catch it from her at all despite her quarantining across the hall from me.

Now, this isn't a 100% scientific study because, among other things, they were different strains (alpha vs. omicron). But it was sufficient evidence for us to keep up with our boosters as recommended.

Anyway, although covid sucked and I don't want to get it again, it wasn't the worst pain I ever experienced. (Or even the worst illness–I think that was having strep.)

Yeah, well the vaccine didn't do shit. You don't get 3+ polio vaccines and then still get a mild, let alone moderate, case of polio. Never got a booster after that, and never will.

You'll forgive me if I don't believe anything you have to say about matters of potential life and death due to your low-quality posting history.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 06:21:09 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 05, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
See my original post, food poisoning and stomach issues are something I've consistently found to be more painful than broken bones (or being run over by a car).

Yep, any problems related to the digestive system seem to be the worst. It's like the human body has stronger pain receptors down there or something.

@Scott5114 I think the low quality vaccine is what people should be concerned about. I'm not giving anyone advice on whether to get it or not. If someone got a more mild case from it, great. It definitely didn't work with me though, unlike every other vaccine (including flu shot) that I got in my life.

I think you should be more concerned about fixing your low-quality posting history, personally.

Also, I'm a scalar and not an array and therefore properly addressed as $Scott5114.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: J N Winkler on January 05, 2023, 06:51:38 PM
I'd just point out that, by July 2022, a 22- or 23-year-old with a normal immune system should have had two shots for full initial immunization (assuming one of the mRNA vaccines) plus one booster.  The latter might have prevented hospitalization altogether; it would certainly have reduced the risk.

It is true that most childhood immunizations are "stick and forget," but they typically target bacteria and viruses that do not mutate as aggressively as bat coronaviruses (SARS-CoV-2 being one example of such), and for some of them top-ups are recommended, such as an additional tetanus shot once every ten years or after being stuck with a rusty nail.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 07:02:25 PM
The boosters weren't calibrated for these nastier variants at that point. Besides, with the time frame given, the booster would have been 5-6 months later, so what about the remaining 6-7 months? Would the 3rd dose have started to wear off by then also? As far as I know my age group was never eligible for a 4th.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Bruce on January 05, 2023, 07:11:24 PM
The fourth dose was released to the public, for all adults, in September. There was a shortage due to a spike in demand, but it leveled out after a few weeks.

I got all four and had no more than 3 or so days of local discomfort with no lasting side effects, other than not catching COVID and becoming yet another body occupying hospital beds needed for the rest of society.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 07:13:09 PM
3 days after each shot or 3 in total across all 4?
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Rothman on January 05, 2023, 07:22:09 PM
I had no side effects at all with the fourth shot.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Bruce on January 05, 2023, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on January 05, 2023, 07:13:09 PM
3 days after each shot or 3 in total across all 4?

After each, on average. My immune system isn't all that great, which is all the more reason to get preventative care like vaccines done.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: Scott5114 on January 05, 2023, 07:28:22 PM
We really don't need to relitigate the covid bullshit again.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: kkt on January 06, 2023, 01:19:56 AM
Worst pain: Some blood in my urine for no explained reason.  In an attempt to figure out why, I was sent for a diagnostic procedure in which a miniature camera was forced up my urethra so pictures could be taken of the inside of my bladder.  Local anesthetic was used, but it was extremely painful right through the anesthetic.  (Results - inconclusive, no cause of the bleeding was found.)  Continued to be very painful for several days after.

Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on January 06, 2023, 09:12:12 PM
I had something happen to me yesterday that was surprisingly unpainful when it happened.

I fell, landed awkwardly on my left hand, and ended up dislocating my middle finger. Wish I had taken a picture of it at a 45-degree angle at the middle joint. I popped it back into place and it really wasn't too painful. The "road rash" on my left arm and right elbow hurt worse.

Today, my finger is swollen around the joint, it hurts, and I can't bend it all the way, but i suspect when the swelling goes down it will be OK.

Given the gruesome appearance of the dislocated finger, one would have expected excruciating pain.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: JKRhodes on July 16, 2023, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: JKRhodes on October 29, 2022, 11:16:39 PM
(background categorizing bouts with acute pain, short term pain and long term pain)

(Information about metal in eye and recurring corneal erosions, daily)

I'm happy to report, with regard to my eye, that I underwent a superficial keratectomy with amniotic membrane transplant and bandage contact lens nearly two months ago to fix my cornea. After a week long recovery, my eye has healed beautifully with no more erosions.

Three takeaways:

1. Wear your freaking safety glasses and face shield when using a grinder, or working near one.

2. Get seen for metal in eye ASAP if you have an accident.

3. Don't be afraid to get referred to a corneal specialist sooner than later if you continue to have issues.

Worst chapter in my life for chronic pain began on May 7, 2022 when I got metal in my eye, and finally reached its last page on May 19, 2023 when I got it fixed properly.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: bugo on August 01, 2023, 12:18:57 AM
Kidney stones. Unbearable pain, vomiting, nausea and pissing every 3 minutes. The doctor gave me a shot of some sort of opioid and it did nothing. He then had me admitted to the hospital. and I passed out from the pain while sitting in triage. I woke up a few hours later in the middle of some sort of test or scan.  I was in a big white tube that was moving around me. The pain was gone, but I was still sore for a few days. There was no relief for this sort of pain. Some pain can be lessened by moving your body certain way, but not kidney stones.  It was just miserable.

I had another kidney stone attack when I lived in Missouri. I had some pain medication left over from a dental visit, so I was able to avoid going to the hospital. It wasn't nearly as intense as the first attack.

I was in Tulsa when the third attack happened. I went to the hospital and they gave me 12 pain pills and some expensive medicine that didn't even end up helping and sent me home. This attack wasn't as bad as either of the first two in intensity, but it lasted for around 10 days. I drove to Mena so my mom could take care of me and stayed there about a week, and the pain and other symptoms just wouldn't go away. Luckily, my late grandmother had a big stash of pills from a prior prescription, and again I was able to avoid going back to the hospital, which I would have had to do if not for them. Every time I thought it would let up, it would kick right back in. (TMI warning:) The kidney stones looked like little flecks of black pepper. I was feeling a bit better and I drove back to Tulsa. When I got home, I had a Spaten Optimator, which is a German doppelbock, and it finished cleaning me out. Lots of flecks at first, and then no more. I should have had some beer earlier, but I was in Mena, which was a dry county then.

Gall stones were very unpleasant and quite painful. but not quite as bad as the worst of the three kidney stone attacks that I have had. I had to drive from 51st and Lewis to the OSU hospital downtown with my chest feeling like it was on fire. Not recommended.

I had a root canal done back when I was in my late teens, and the dentist hit a nerve that wasn't deadened, and I nearly jumped out of my seat. Extremely intense and sharp pain. But this only hurt for a few seconds. Kidney stones hurt for a long time. Gall stones hurt for a long time.

I've heard that kidney stones are at least as painful as childbirth.
Title: Re: The worst pain you’ve experienced
Post by: hbelkins on August 01, 2023, 11:49:56 AM
It's amazing that something so small can cause so much discomfort.