The diverging diamond interchange for I-88 at IL 59 is being rebid this June (Item 198). A couple sheets show WB I-88 getting both a control city and control state with DeKalb/Iowa.
Good thread idea! What is the link to the IDOT bid plan set page?
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 05, 2013, 10:38:30 PM
The diverging diamond interchange for I-88 at IL 59 is being rebid this June (Item 198). A couple sheets show WB I-88 getting both a control city and control state with DeKalb/Iowa.
Again!?! I thought IDOT already bid this as of January or February. I'm still convinced that IDOT will fuck it up somehow by not timing the signals with the Diehl Road intersection.
In fact, Brandon, you posted about it back in January:
I-88 / ILL-59 - First DDI in Illinois (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8513.msg198064#msg198064)
Perhaps "rebid" means something different?
IDOT Links, Please. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skyscrapercity.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fsmile.gif&hash=a4341200187ba49a98b8ff9c673aecb616645ae2)
Plan sheets for the DDI are here:
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061413/60I31-198/PLANS/ (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061413/60I31-198/PLANS/)
Where the projects are posted by letting:
http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/delett.html (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/delett.html)
Quote from: kphoger on June 06, 2013, 10:50:02 AM
In fact, Brandon, you posted about it back in January:
I-88 / ILL-59 - First DDI in Illinois (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8513.msg198064#msg198064)
Perhaps "rebid" means something different?
The Item Descriptions (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/061413/nlitemdesc.pdf (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/061413/nlitemdesc.pdf)) under the notice of letting lists the project as being previously bid in January of 2013. I'm not sure why it was rejected; the January bid tab (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/011813/ac011813/Dist101182013.pdf (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/011813/ac011813/Dist101182013.pdf)) indicates that the bid price was around the acceptable estimated range back in January and had more than one contractor place a bid.
Hopefully it'll help cure the backup it causes on West 88 when approaching the exit. Just as long as it doesn't cause horrid backups
Five items on the August letting have maps that may be interesting to some:
1) This one has a map on Sheet 4 that shows the corridors for the IL 53 extension and IL 120 in Lake County, shows the Amstutz being extended south and then west to end at the I-94 interchange with IL 137, and shows the once proposed Lake Freeway in Wisconsin tying into the I-94/US 41 interchange.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W63-023/PLANS/PL-60W63-023.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W63-023/PLANS/PL-60W63-023.pdf)
2) This one has a map on Sheet 4 that shows the IL 120 corridor through western Lake and McHenry Counties, though I think it is another old map that got used since more recent proposals have the IL 120 facility staying south of the existing IL 120 until a point near the intersection of IL 120 with IL 60.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W64-024/PLANS/PL-60W64-024.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W64-024/PLANS/PL-60W64-024.pdf)
3) The map on Sheet 4 in this set is definitely old since I-355 is not shown as complete, but it shows a continuation of the IL 394 freeway along IL 394 and then branching off of IL 1 to pass east of Beecher. It also shows the South Suburban branching off of IL 394.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W67-027/PLANS/PL-60W67-027.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W67-027/PLANS/PL-60W67-027.pdf)
4) This one shows an earlier alignment of the Elgin O'Hare east of York Road on Sheet 4.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W66-026/PLANS/PL-60W66-026.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W66-026/PLANS/PL-60W66-026.pdf)
5) Sheet 4 of this set shows more of the original alignment of the eastern end of the Elgin O'Hare, shows a western extension of the EOE to the US 20 bypass of Elgin, shows the IL 53 extension being open north of Lake Cook Road, and shows something proposed east of I-90/I-94 that ends near the IL 19 intersection with Lake Shore Drive.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W68-028/PLANS/PL-60W68-028.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W68-028/PLANS/PL-60W68-028.pdf)
I saw those maps used in their annual plans (not the 5 year ones) in the 80s I think , The downstate supplemental freeways were in the annuals from 72-79 and then the terms was switched to Principle Arterials..and no set corridors.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 29, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
3) The map on Sheet 4 in this set is definitely old since I-355 is not shown as complete, but it shows a continuation of the IL 394 freeway along IL 394 and then branching off of IL 1 to pass east of Beecher. It also shows the South Suburban branching off of IL 394.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W67-027/PLANS/PL-60W67-027.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W67-027/PLANS/PL-60W67-027.pdf)
Both the village's land use plan and the South Suburban Airport master plan envision the Beecher bypass being west of, not east of Beecher, utilizing the Ashland Avenue corridor.
Quote from: Rick Powell on July 30, 2013, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 29, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
3) The map on Sheet 4 in this set is definitely old since I-355 is not shown as complete, but it shows a continuation of the IL 394 freeway along IL 394 and then branching off of IL 1 to pass east of Beecher. It also shows the South Suburban branching off of IL 394.
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W67-027/PLANS/PL-60W67-027.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/080213/60W67-027/PLANS/PL-60W67-027.pdf)
Both the village's land use plan and the South Suburban Airport master plan envision the Beecher bypass being west of, not east of Beecher, utilizing the Ashland Avenue corridor.
It'll be interesting to see if they will consider doing something with 394 now that a 3rd airport has been approved.
Not a fan of the overhead sign design for IL-59 thru the DDI - more specifically the way they have the far left lane signed for both I-88 and IL-59, right next to a sign with just IL-59.
I'm sure it's all related to the OAPL requirement...but it's got the potential to be just a tad confusing. (FWIW, I thought the same thing on the signage for the far right exit lane for SB IL-83 from I-88 that has both routes on it. I know it's to tell folks "yes you can get back on I-88 from this lane, too" - but it's still odd to me.)
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061413/60I31-198/PLANS/PL-60I31-198-301-400.pdf
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061413/60I31-198/PLANS/PL-60I31-198-301-500.pdf
List of projects for the January 2014 Letting is up:
http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/nlitemdesc.pdf (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/nlitemdesc.pdf)
* Item 87 is the I-57 interchange with Stunkel Road in Will County
* Item 129 is decorative LED lighting for the WB US 24 Mississippi River Bridge.
Plans are/will be posted at http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/011714plans.html (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/011714plans.html)
There are certainly some unique fractions on the signs for I-255 for one of the January projects:
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/76F10-063/PLANS/PL-76F10-063-101-206.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/76F10-063/PLANS/PL-76F10-063-101-206.pdf)
Don't think I've seen '59/64 mile' or '57/64 mile' before.
(Edited to fix typo)
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 20, 2013, 07:40:06 PM
There are sp,e certainly a unique fractions on the signs for I-255 for one of the January projects:
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/76F10-063/PLANS/PL-76F10-063-101-206.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/76F10-063/PLANS/PL-76F10-063-101-206.pdf)
Don't think I've seen '59/64 mile' or '57/64 mile' before.
(pages 20, 26, 31, 34, 36)
Yeah, what the fuck?
Quote from: NE2 on December 20, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 20, 2013, 07:40:06 PM
There are sp,e certainly a unique fractions on the signs for I-255 for one of the January projects:
http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/76F10-063/PLANS/PL-76F10-063-101-206.pdf (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/76F10-063/PLANS/PL-76F10-063-101-206.pdf)
Don't think I've seen '59/64 mile' or '57/64 mile' before.
(pages 20, 26, 31, 34, 36)
Yeah, what the fuck?
That's a font-o, to coin a new term. Certain CAD fonts yield fractions when you type special characters that appear in other fonts. If someone hits "Alt+0189" to do a "½", for example, that becomes "57/64" in a different font. Clearly these plans were printed with the wrong configuration file, and thus the wrong font appeared. (CAD relates each font to a number - so for example, font 001 may be for general plans, 011 for existing text, 030 for proposed. However, each agency has its own font sets, and wants its own numbers. So 011 may work for one agency and be a completely arbitrary font for another agency. The project configuration file ensures that the right font set is brought in when opening the file. If you have a file in another project open and jump straight into this project without first changing your configuration, you get what happened here.)
Quote from: Steve on December 20, 2013, 07:51:39 PMThat's a font-o, to coin a new term. Certain CAD fonts yield fractions when you type special characters that appear in other fonts. If someone hits "Alt+0189" to do a "½", for example, that becomes "57/64" in a different font. Clearly these plans were printed with the wrong configuration file, and thus the wrong font appeared. (CAD relates each font to a number - so for example, font 001 may be for general plans, 011 for existing text, 030 for proposed. However, each agency has its own font sets, and wants its own numbers. So 011 may work for one agency and be a completely arbitrary font for another agency. The project configuration file ensures that the right font set is brought in when opening the file. If you have a file in another project open and jump straight into this project without first changing your configuration, you get what happened here.)
This kind of problem can also result from not having a resource file loaded at all, or having a resource file with the correct filename but in an incorrect version.
The sign panel details for this particular project are all generated in
SignCAD (the giveaway being the font description caption beneath each sign detail).
SignCAD stores its fonts in a signcad.rsc file, which is available in several different versions. The version of signcad.rsc that is used to view or plot a
SignCAD-produced drawing in
MicroStation must match the version that was used to produce the drawing in order for fonts to render correctly. Symptoms of signcad.rsc version mismatch include FHWA series legend appearing in Clearview or vice versa.
Signcad.rsc is part of the
SignCAD distribution and I am not aware of any state DOTs that include it in their CAD workspace configuration files. I don't think standard
SignCAD licensing allows DOTs to redistribute signcad.rsc, though it is possible to obtain it informally, under Chatham House rules ("Don't say you got it from me or I'll get into trouble").
In this particular case, none of the sign panel details use actual traffic sign typefaces; instead they all use CAD placeholder fonts. This leads me to believe that the plots were generated on a computer which had Illinois DOT's standard workspace loaded, but not a copy of the signcad.rsc file, in any version. This is quite a sloppy plotting job and, frankly, Illinois DOT should have rejected it and required the consultant to re-plot it with the correct fonts.
Edit: Looking at the drawing chopblocks again, I think this signing plan may very well be an in-house job. The bridge plans in the same PDF sheet set are done by Transystems, but I see no good reason to lay the signing plans at their door.
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 20, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
In this particular case, none of the sign panel details use actual traffic sign typefaces; instead they all use CAD placeholder fonts. This leads me to believe that the plots were generated on a computer which had Illinois DOT's standard workspace loaded, but not a copy of the signcad.rsc file, in any version. This is quite a sloppy plotting job and, frankly, Illinois DOT should have rejected it and required the consultant to re-plot it with the correct fonts.
We've all heard the nickname for Illinois DOT. Are they so bad that they don't even check their plans for something this basic and obvious?
Quote from: Steve on December 20, 2013, 11:21:03 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 20, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
In this particular case, none of the sign panel details use actual traffic sign typefaces; instead they all use CAD placeholder fonts. This leads me to believe that the plots were generated on a computer which had Illinois DOT's standard workspace loaded, but not a copy of the signcad.rsc file, in any version. This is quite a sloppy plotting job and, frankly, Illinois DOT should have rejected it and required the consultant to re-plot it with the correct fonts.
We've all heard the nickname for Illinois DOT. Are they so bad that they don't even check their plans for something this basic and obvious?
Well, it
is the Collinsville District (District 8). They aren't exactly known for good signage. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Steve on December 20, 2013, 11:21:03 PMWe've all heard the nickname for Illinois DOT. Are they so bad that they don't even check their plans for something this basic and obvious?
It would seem so. Font problems are very common in Illinois DOT signing plans in general. I don't think I have previously seen anything quite so egregious as "57/64" being plotted when it is abundantly clear a much simpler fraction was meant, but I have seen plenty of signing plans with a serif placeholder font used for primary destination legend, Clearview used in route shields (could be a design mistake and not just a font problem, except the font caption sometimes also appears in Clearview, which is another symptom of signcad.rsc version mismatch), Arial instead of Clearview for primary destination legend (a very common problem in
GuidSIGN--Illinois DOT allows consultants to use both major signing CAD packages), etc.
There is a lot of district-by-district variation since review of signing plans is handled at district level (in fact, District 1 has its own unpublished signing manual). Districts 2 (Quad Cities) and 4 (Peoria) produce very good signing plans, while District 8 (East St. Louis) and District 1 (Chicago) are very hit-and-miss. The signing plans with "57/64" are a District 8 job. Within districts, I am not aware of a great difference between consultant-produced and in-house signing plans with regard to font substitution problems.
Bad fonts are not purely an ID(i)OT problem. The Illinois Tollway has the same font substitution problem in its construction plans, and the incidence is roughly the same as for IDOT District 1.
BTW, in my limited experience of state DOT signing plan review processes, I have not seen a single instance of a reviewer calling out a font substitution problem in a comment (even when it was blatantly obvious) and insisting that it be corrected, although I have seen reminders of the rule not to use Clearview in negative contrast (this misuse of Clearview is a design error rather than a font problem
per se). I think there is some expectation--probably communicated verbally only--that designers will supply reviewers with draft plans that look professional, and that the reviewers will ignore font substitution problems as opposed to design errors such as incorrect line spacing, omission or otherwise of horizontal ruled lines, choice of font size not in accord with state DOT policy, etc. As a rule, I see very few comments on general plan-presentation issues (for example, I have only once seen this comment: "These sign designs are too small to read when this sheet is printed out at 11" x 17". Make them larger").
I also suspect that in state DOTs where shop drawings (basically raw
GuidSIGN or
SignCAD sketches, one sign per page) are a required part of construction plan submittals, there is usually--not always--less pressure on designers to produce clean signing plan sheets. Ohio DOT and Michigan DOT, for example, require shop drawings and although MDOT signing plans are usually clean, not all signing contracts have plan sheets, while Ohio DOT's signing plans are usually awful. In contradistinction, the shop drawings are always pattern-accurate. If Illinois DOT similarly requires shop drawings for design submittals, this may explain why so many signing plans look bad.
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 21, 2013, 12:52:21 AM
There is a lot of district-by-district variation since review of signing plans is handled at district level (in fact, District 1 has its own unpublished signing manual). Districts 2 (Quad Cities) and 4 (Peoria) produce very good signing plans, while District 8 (East St. Louis) and District 1 (Chicago) are very hit-and-miss. The signing plans with "57/64" are a District 8 job. Within districts, I am not aware of a great difference between consultant-produced and in-house signing plans with regard to font substitution problems.
A minor quibble for accuracy, JN: District 1 is Schaumburg, not Chicago; District 2 is Dixon, not Quad Cities; and District 8 is Collinsville, not East St Louis. These are the places they're located and usually referred to as within the state.
Quote from: Brandon on December 21, 2013, 09:23:11 AMA minor quibble for accuracy, JN: District 1 is Schaumburg, not Chicago; District 2 is Dixon, not Quad Cities; and District 8 is Collinsville, not East St Louis. These are the places they're located and usually referred to as within the state.
This is true. However, I was referring to the districts by the metro areas they contained rather than by the locations of the district offices, since the former gives a better idea of where the product of each district's traffic design office can be found. It is the same idea behind saying "KDOT's Wichita district" when in fact the district number is 5, KDOT's term for it is "South Central Kansas," and the main district office is in Hutchinson.
^^ But, District 2, for example, covers much more than the Quad Cities. You also have the Rockford Area.
Not from the current letting but this one local roads project in Sauget has a couple sign goofs, (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/011714/97485-136/PLANS/PL-97485-136.pdf) with a US 64 shield instead of I-64(why not I-55 also?), and circular shields for IL 3. Sure it calls out "IL Route Sign," but the code for the standard IL shield is M1-I100
On the April letting is the widening of Wabash Avenue on the western edge of Springfield, complete with more flashing yellow arrows. Link to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/042514/72890-134/PLANS/)
Listing of projects for the June letting is up (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/061314/nlitemdesc.pdf)
Plans have not been posted yet (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061314/061314plans.html)
Highlights:
* Item 21 is the new flyover at the Circle Interchange for the WB I-90/I-94 ramp to WB I-290
* Item 251 is the partial deck replacement on the MLK Bridge around St. Louis
* Item 284 is the new interchange with Reider Road on I-64 (between the US 50/IL 158 cloverleaf and the IL 4 interchange)
The Plans for the WB I-90/I-94 ramp to WB I-290 are up. Interesting how WB I-290 will have Aurora as a control city per some of the signing sheets.
Link (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061314/60W28-021/PLANS/PL-60W28-021-201-300.pdf) (Signing plans start on Page 69/Sheet 269)
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 21, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
The Plans for the WB I-90/I-94 ramp to WB I-290 are up. Interesting how WB I-290 will have Aurora as a control city per some of the signing sheets.
Link (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061314/60W28-021/PLANS/PL-60W28-021-201-300.pdf) (Signing plans start on Page 69/Sheet 269)
As well as the Outbound Ike should have Aurora as the control city. It's only the second largest city in the state.
Quote from: Brandon on May 22, 2014, 09:49:43 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 21, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
The Plans for the WB I-90/I-94 ramp to WB I-290 are up. Interesting how WB I-290 will have Aurora as a control city per some of the signing sheets.
Link (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061314/60W28-021/PLANS/PL-60W28-021-201-300.pdf) (Signing plans start on Page 69/Sheet 269)
As well as the Outbound Ike should have Aurora as the control city. It's only the second largest city in the state.
If we were talking of revamping control cities in Chicagoland, the outbound control city for I-290 between the Loop and Hillside should be Aurora. From Hillside to Higgins Road the outbound control should be Schaumburg. And from Higgins, the outbound control should be Buffalo Grove (as I-290 at that point is a north-south road that leads to IL-53.
I don't really think Aurora is the best city to go with here. 290 doesn't go anywhere near Aurora.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 27, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
I don't really think Aurora is the best city to go with here. 290 doesn't go anywhere near Aurora.
However, it leads into I-88 which does. The main lanes (left lanes) of I-290 become I-88.
Naperville is a fairly well-known city in the state, so I wouldn't scream if they used it as the control city either.
That said, I never really had a problem with "West Suburbs" either.
Go twin controls with "Aurora - Schaumburg" even.
It appears the WB I-90/I-94 flyover to WB I-290 has been moved to a July 11 special letting. Source (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/071114/nlitemdesc.pdf)
Looking over the plans for the Rieder Road interchange with I-64, it appears I-64 will be widened from west of the US 50/IL 158 interchange to the new interchange. Link to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/061314/97549-284/PLANS/)
List is up for the August Letting:
http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/080114/nlitemdesc.pdf (http://www.dot.il.gov/desenv/080114/nlitemdesc.pdf)
The list of projects for the January 30, 2015 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/01.30.2015/Vol17n51.pdf). Highlights:
* Item 5 is building the tie in to WB I-290 for the new NB to WB ramp at the Circle Interchange.
* Item 7 includes more ramps for the I-290/IL 390 interchange
* Item 25 is a new interchange for I-57 north of Kankakee at 6000 N
* Item 34 is construction of the new ramp from the EB MLK Bridge to SB I-55/WB I-64 in East St. Louis
* Item 62 is replacement of the IL 104 bridge over the Illinois River
List of projects for the April 24 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/04.24.15/Vol18n12.pdf)
Link to where plans will be posted (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/042415/)
Projects of note:
* Item 16 wipes out the stoplight free section of US 12 between Volo and the southern fringe of Fox Lake.
* Item 17 has some minor sign replacements on US 41 from Gurnee southward to the end of the Edens.
* Item 71 adds a couple more flashing yellow arrows to Springfield on Wabash Avenue.
* Item 186 adds a signal to one of the US 50/IL 4 intersections in Lebanon.
List for the July 31, 2015 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/07.31.2015/Vol18n26.pdf) No plans up yet. (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/073115/)
* Item 1X (for review and inspection only) is replacement of the bridge carrying US 52 across the Mississippi River.
* Item 5 involves bridge replacement and widening for I-55's interchange with Lake Shore Drive.
List of projects for the September 18 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/09.18.2015/Vol18n33.pdf) Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/091815/)
* The new Mississippi Bridge for US 52 is now for bidding (Item 1X)
* Item 6 is for replacing the bridge carrying NB IL 171 over I-55.
* Item 12 adds a new signal to IL 176 just east of the US 12 interchange.
* Item 14 replaces the East River Road Bridge over I-90 (first overpass east of the merge with I-190).
* Item 21 is widening of IL 5 in Moline.
* There are a few resurfacing projects for I-57 in the Carbondale Distric (Items 40, 42, and 45).
* Item 56 is the installation of a roundabout for the IL 47 intersection with Burlington Road in Kane County (currently an all-way stop).
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 15, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
List of projects for the September 18 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/09.18.2015/Vol18n33.pdf) Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/091815/)
* Item 14 replaces the East River Road Bridge over I-90 (first overpass east of the merge with I-190).
Part of the work to improve the I-90 / I-190 interchange.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 15, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
List of projects for the September 18 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/09.18.2015/Vol18n33.pdf) Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/091815/)
* Item 21 is widening of IL 5 in Moline.
This road is a pain in the ass. I'm glad they're finally considering doing something about it. :clap:
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 15, 2015, 09:35:46 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 15, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
List of projects for the September 18 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/09.18.2015/Vol18n33.pdf) Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/091815/)
* Item 14 replaces the East River Road Bridge over I-90 (first overpass east of the merge with I-190).
Part of the work to improve the I-90 / I-190 interchange.
Terrible interchange.
Didn't IDOT have plans on widening the Kennedy?
^ Yes, from I-190 to IL 43/Harlem Avenue. IDOT will probably be getting more CMAQ funding for the EB widening (per this Excel spreadsheet from CMAP) (http://www.cmap.illinois.gov/documents/10180/359448/TAP_15-17_Program_Development_Sheet_ForPosting_071715.xlsx/d85c495a-704f-462c-822e-47d52d0b8275).
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 15, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
List of projects for the September 18 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/09.18.2015/Vol18n33.pdf) Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/091815/)
One of them is widening IL 26 at the north side of the I-80 interchange, where a new 4 lane bridge over I-80 was previously shoehorned into an existing 2-lane roadway and never has functioned properly. This project was previously pulled by IDOT at the Governor's direction along with several others (notably a new interchange on I-57 south of Manteno) in a cost saving move; good to see it put back on the letting.
The list of projects for the July 2016 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/07.29.16/Vol19n27.pdf)
Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/072916/)
Highlights:
* Item 6 adds a lane on eastbound I-90 from Cumberland to Harlem Avenue
* Item 24 contains more work on Kennedy for the Circle Interchange rebuild
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
The list of projects for the July 2016 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/07.29.16/Vol19n27.pdf)
Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/072916/)
Highlights:
* Item 6 adds a lane on eastbound I-90 from Cumberland to Harlem Avenue
* Item 24 contains more work on Kennedy for the Circle Interchange rebuild
Has IDOT begun construction on the Cumberland flyover?
Quote from: I-39 on July 08, 2016, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
The list of projects for the July 2016 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/07.29.16/Vol19n27.pdf)
Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/072916/)
Highlights:
* Item 6 adds a lane on eastbound I-90 from Cumberland to Harlem Avenue
* Item 24 contains more work on Kennedy for the Circle Interchange rebuild
Has IDOT begun construction on the Cumberland flyover?
The tollway? seems to be doing work on the river bridge and have a new covered up sign for the exit.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on July 08, 2016, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: I-39 on July 08, 2016, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
The list of projects for the July 2016 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/07.29.16/Vol19n27.pdf)
Links to plans (http://eplan.dot.il.gov/desenv/072916/)
Highlights:
* Item 6 adds a lane on eastbound I-90 from Cumberland to Harlem Avenue
* Item 24 contains more work on Kennedy for the Circle Interchange rebuild
Has IDOT begun construction on the Cumberland flyover?
The tollway? seems to be doing work on the river bridge and have a new covered up sign for the exit.
They also completely removed East River Road bridge. It's not just because the bridge was old, but to also allow room for the new lanes on the flyover.
List of projects for the November 2016 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/11.04.2016/Vol19n40.pdf) (plans available here) (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/doing-business/procurements/construction-services/construction-bulletins/transportation-bulletin/Plans-Proposals)
Item Number 8 is the replacement of the IL 178 bridge over the Illinois River.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 03, 2016, 07:54:12 PM
List of projects for the November 2016 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/11.04.2016/Vol19n40.pdf) (plans available here) (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/doing-business/procurements/construction-services/construction-bulletins/transportation-bulletin/Plans-Proposals)
Item Number 8 is the replacement of the IL 178 bridge over the Illinois River.
That would be the last of the Illinois river bridges to be replaced from LaSalle to Morris, IIRC.
I wonder if this new bridge is going to be 4 lane, what with the horrendous backups there at Starved Rock State Park on holiday weekends.
Quote from: inkyatari on October 04, 2016, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 03, 2016, 07:54:12 PM
List of projects for the November 2016 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/11.04.2016/Vol19n40.pdf) (plans available here) (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/doing-business/procurements/construction-services/construction-bulletins/transportation-bulletin/Plans-Proposals)
Item Number 8 is the replacement of the IL 178 bridge over the Illinois River.
That would be the last of the Illinois river bridges to be replaced from LaSalle to Morris, IIRC.
I wonder if this new bridge is going to be 4 lane, what with the horrendous backups there at Starved Rock State Park on holiday weekends.
Nope, it will be a 2-lane, but with wider shoulders and a separated 10 foot bike/pedestrian lane, and will also have roadway lighting from the village all the way to the state park entrance. IDOT is looking into the need for a traffic signal at US 6 and IL 178, which is currently a 4 way stop and gets backed up all the way to I-80 and the ramps on one of those heavy traffic days. The realignment of IL 178 through Utica has helped the traffic flow immensely, it used to be two 90 degree bends through the downtown area and it now bypasses the downtown about a block and a half to the west with no stops needed.
Bulletin for the June 16, 2017 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/061617/Vol20n19.pdf). Plans will be found Here (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/061617/)
Highlights:
* Item 1X is for approaches and related work for the new I-74 Mississippi crossings.
* Items 117 and 118 are for bridge deck replacement on IL 120 around the US 41 interchange
* Item 130 mentions adding lanes to 2.1 miles of US 34 from Eldamain to Center Parkway in Kendall County
* Item 232 includes installation of a span wire signal at the US 6/IL 178 intersection in Utica
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 13, 2017, 10:38:51 PM
Bulletin for the June 16, 2017 Letting is up (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/061617/Vol20n19.pdf). Plans will be found Here (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/061617/)
Highlights:
* Item 1X is for approaches and related work for the new I-74 Mississippi crossings.
* Items 117 and 118 are for bridge deck replacement on IL 120 around the US 41 interchange
* Item 130 mentions adding lanes to 2.1 miles of US 34 from Eldamain to Center Parkway in Kendall County
* Item 232 includes installation of a span wire signal at the US 6/IL 178 intersection in Utica
Item 130 will eliminate the 2-lane bottleneck on US 34 between Plano and Yorkville and will make a continuous 4-lane route between the west city limits of Plano and Orchard Road in Oswego. There were studies to extend the 4-laning even farther west through Sandwich and east/north through Oswego and north on IL 31 to Montgomery, but they were eventually dropped due in part to local opposition. The west extension was dropped following a change in mayors in Sandwich, and the east extension was put on hold to await seeing if changing traffic patterns from the opening of the then-new Orchard Road bridge across the Fox River would reduce traffic on US 34 east of Orchard (it didn't, much).
List of projects for the November 17, 2017 Letting is up. (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Letting-&-Bidding-Reference/111717/Vol20n41.pdf) Plans will be posted here. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/111717/)
Highlights:
* Item 52 is the Longmeadow Parkway/IL 62 intersection in Kane County
* Item 71 is for connecting Longmeadow Parkway from the end of the previous contract near Randall Road to IL 31
* Item 74 is for changes to the US 20 interchange with IL 59
List of projects for the January 19, 2018 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/95eb4665-4322-4dc9-9bc3-67659438f6f3)
Highlights
* Item 3 appears the be the conversion of the Cumberland Circle in Des Plaines into a roundabout
* Item 66 is for signalizing the IL 13/Old IL 13 intersection on the west side of Harrisburg
* Item 104 includes a new pedestrian bridge over the Fox River in downtown Aurora
* Item 105 widens Quentin Road in Lake County between IL 22 and US 12
* Item 113 involves work at one of the IL 83/IL 171 intersections
I'm wondering when they are going to start on the I57-I74 interchange?
Quote from: captkirk_4 on December 09, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
I'm wondering when they are going to start on the I57-I74 interchange?
Hopefully soon. That interchange needs to be improved.
List of projects for the March 9, 2018 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/00894c68-fa6d-4bf5-934c-7c6be361833f)
* Item 4 (which will be rescheduled for a later letting) appears to have been the US 45 Milburn Bypass in Lake County
* Item 18 (also rescheduled) would have been advance steel fabrication for bridges on I-80 in Joliet around Richard Street
* Item 40 (also rescheduled) "Replacing light towers with new LED highway lighting at seven intersections along US 51" in McLean and DeWitt Counties
* Item 67: Repairs to I-280's Mississippi River Bridge
* Item 117 is the I-55/Weber Road interchange
* Item 133 reconstructs Weber Road from Normantown Road to 135th Street
^Exciting! I'm actually really thankful that you keep sifting through the bid lettings to find anything interesting.
I live in Will County and half of these items are in this county lol
A long series of segments along Weber Road from Renwick to Hassert are slated to be six-laned in the next ten years. One segment, from Airport to Renwick, was completed in 2014. There's also the section from 135th to Airport, Normantown to 135th, and Hassert to I-55. I love that they broke it into bite-size pieces, so that a snag in the process will only affect a small portion of the roadway and not the entire initiative. Weber Road is a county road, but the project involves federal money, so IDOT has to acquire official plans.
I'm excited to see any revisions to the bridges or pavement structure from Meadow to Richards in Joliet.
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
I read that construction is supposed to start in earnest this year. The old car was about a mile south of the interchange has been torn down. That's the staging area for the project.
I use that interchange every day, and am tired of the backups. I was hoping for a SPUI, as I think there needs to be one less traffic light in that mile stretch (I believe there's four within a mile / mile and a half there)
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
I read that construction is supposed to start in earnest this year. The old car was about a mile south of the interchange has been torn down. That's the staging area for the project.
I use that interchange every day, and am tired of the backups. I was hoping for a SPUI, as I think there needs to be one less traffic light in that mile stretch (I believe there's four within a mile / mile and a half there)
The plan, last I saw, was for a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) like at IL-59 and I-88.
Quote from: Brandon on February 06, 2018, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
I read that construction is supposed to start in earnest this year. The old car was about a mile south of the interchange has been torn down. That's the staging area for the project.
I use that interchange every day, and am tired of the backups. I was hoping for a SPUI, as I think there needs to be one less traffic light in that mile stretch (I believe there's four within a mile / mile and a half there)
The plan, last I saw, was for a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) like at IL-59 and I-88.
That is indeed what they're going with, but As I stated, I think a SPUI would be a better fit
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 06, 2018, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
I read that construction is supposed to start in earnest this year. The old car was about a mile south of the interchange has been torn down. That's the staging area for the project.
I use that interchange every day, and am tired of the backups. I was hoping for a SPUI, as I think there needs to be one less traffic light in that mile stretch (I believe there's four within a mile / mile and a half there)
The plan, last I saw, was for a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) like at IL-59 and I-88.
That is indeed what they're going with, but As I stated, I think a SPUI would be a better fit
I like the DDI on IL-59 and I-88. If you're on IL-59 and don't wish to go on I-88 just swing out of the left lane though and use the middle lane or right lane. Most of the traffic I've seen is the result of IL-59 southbound on the left lane who aren't trying to get on I-88 east.
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 07, 2018, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 06, 2018, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
I read that construction is supposed to start in earnest this year. The old car was about a mile south of the interchange has been torn down. That's the staging area for the project.
I use that interchange every day, and am tired of the backups. I was hoping for a SPUI, as I think there needs to be one less traffic light in that mile stretch (I believe there's four within a mile / mile and a half there)
The plan, last I saw, was for a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) like at IL-59 and I-88.
That is indeed what they're going with, but As I stated, I think a SPUI would be a better fit
I like the DDI on IL-59 and I-88. If you're on IL-59 and don't wish to go on I-88 just swing out of the left lane though and use the middle lane or right lane. Most of the traffic I've seen is the result of IL-59 southbound on the left lane who aren't trying to get on I-88 east.
It's the same at Elmhurst and I-90, I love the free-flow nature it promotes
Quote from: ET21 on February 08, 2018, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 07, 2018, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 06, 2018, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 06, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 04, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
What's the hold up with the weber road interchange? Hasn't it been scheduled to get worked on for 3 years now?
I do believe there are utilities working on relocating their infrastructure right now. And I heard that tree removal has begun as well. I can check with my boss, actually...I'd be interested to find out.
I read that construction is supposed to start in earnest this year. The old car was about a mile south of the interchange has been torn down. That's the staging area for the project.
I use that interchange every day, and am tired of the backups. I was hoping for a SPUI, as I think there needs to be one less traffic light in that mile stretch (I believe there's four within a mile / mile and a half there)
The plan, last I saw, was for a diverging diamond interchange (DDI) like at IL-59 and I-88.
That is indeed what they're going with, but As I stated, I think a SPUI would be a better fit
I like the DDI on IL-59 and I-88. If you're on IL-59 and don't wish to go on I-88 just swing out of the left lane though and use the middle lane or right lane. Most of the traffic I've seen is the result of IL-59 southbound on the left lane who aren't trying to get on I-88 east.
It's the same at Elmhurst and I-90, I love the free-flow nature it promotes
Is Barrington and IL-59 going to be a DDI or a SPUI?
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 08, 2018, 01:52:32 PM
Is Barrington and IL-59 going to be a DDI or a SPUI?
IL-59 will be left as-is. Roselle is a simple diamond, with one ramp (still under construction) entering from Central Road.
Barrington will be a SPUI.
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/jane-addams/barrington-road-interchange-project
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/jane-addams/roselle-road-interchange-project
Quote from: Brandon on February 08, 2018, 02:00:53 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 08, 2018, 01:52:32 PM
Is Barrington and IL-59 going to be a DDI or a SPUI?
IL-59 will be left as-is. Roselle is a simple diamond, with one ramp (still under construction) entering from Central Road.
Barrington will be a SPUI.
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/jane-addams/barrington-road-interchange-project
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/jane-addams/roselle-road-interchange-project
Brain fart. Meant to say Barrington and I-90
Quote from: Brandon on February 08, 2018, 02:00:53 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on February 08, 2018, 01:52:32 PM
Is Barrington and IL-59 going to be a DDI or a SPUI?
IL-59 will be left as-is. Roselle is a simple diamond, with one ramp (still under construction) entering from Central Road.
Barrington will be a SPUI.
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/jane-addams/barrington-road-interchange-project
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/jane-addams/roselle-road-interchange-project
Il-59 can use toll to get on to make it fair and maybe let them remove the toll to exit at I-290
List of Projects for the April 27, 2018 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a7002430-7832-46c2-895c-bb725f67a53f)
Highlights
* Item 10 is a bridge replacement on I-290 over Salt Creek in DuPage County
* Item 79 is widening for IL 71 from IL 47 to IL 126
* Item 149 is widening of Quentin Road between US 12 and IL 22 in Lake County
* Item 160 appears to be the Milburn Bypass for US 45 in Lake County
* Item 193 widens Huntley Road from Sleepy Hollow Road to Elm Avenue in West Dundee (Kane County)
* Item 198 improves the Huntley Road/IL 31 intersection in Carpentersville (Kane County)
Bulletin for the June 15, 2018 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a0dc3320-bbd4-45fe-b716-445988dabd2f)
Highlights
* Item 5 will include some new signs on I-90 between IL 171 and IL 43
* Item 15 replaces the traffic signal structure at the I-80/I-94 SPUI with IL 83/Torrence Avenue
* Item 29 has some minor widening on Business 20 near I-39/I-90 in the Rockford area.
* Item 152 has widening on IL 132 through Lindenhurst.
* Item 186 is a re-advertisement for the IL 71 widening from IL 47 to IL 126.
* Item 212 is the reconstruction of the Randall Road intersection with Algonquin Road in McHenry County.
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 11, 2018, 09:40:14 PM
Bulletin for the June 15, 2018 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a0dc3320-bbd4-45fe-b716-445988dabd2f)
Highlights
* Item 5 will include some new signs on I-90 between IL 171 and IL 43
* Item 15 replaces the traffic signal structure at the I-80/I-94 SPUI with IL 83/Torrence Avenue
* Item 29 has some minor widening on Business 20 near I-39/I-90 in the Rockford area.
* Item 152 has widening on IL 132 through Lindenhurst.
* Item 186 is a re-advertisement for the IL 71 widening from IL 47 to IL 126.
* Item 212 is the reconstruction of the Randall Road intersection with Algonquin Road in McHenry County.
I also noticed item 104 which is resurfacing on both I-80 from Will County Line to Des Plaines River and on I-55 from Des Plaines River to Weber Road (both sorely needed).
Quote from: ChiMilNet on May 12, 2018, 10:56:50 PM
I also noticed item 104 which is resurfacing on both I-80 from Will County Line to Des Plaines River and on I-55 from Des Plaines River to Weber Road (both sorely needed).
Wouldn't have been an issue if I-55 was properly rebuilt 7 years ago.
Quote from: inkyatari on May 14, 2018, 08:50:19 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on May 12, 2018, 10:56:50 PM
I also noticed item 104 which is resurfacing on both I-80 from Will County Line to Des Plaines River and on I-55 from Des Plaines River to Weber Road (both sorely needed).
Wouldn't have been an issue if I-55 was properly rebuilt 7 years ago.
Correct lol. That stretch of I-55 is the biggest joke of a reconstruction project I've seen. I've complained in this thread about the abysmal job they did with the BGS signage too. Whoever designed the signs didn't know what an "exit only" tab was, for one thing.
I see I also overlooked the US 20/Harmony Road roundabout as Item 102.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 14, 2018, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 14, 2018, 08:50:19 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on May 12, 2018, 10:56:50 PM
I also noticed item 104 which is resurfacing on both I-80 from Will County Line to Des Plaines River and on I-55 from Des Plaines River to Weber Road (both sorely needed).
Wouldn't have been an issue if I-55 was properly rebuilt 7 years ago.
Correct lol. That stretch of I-55 is the biggest joke of a reconstruction project I've seen. I've complained in this thread about the abysmal job they did with the BGS signage too. Whoever designed the signs didn't know what an "exit only" tab was, for one thing.
In all fairness, that was about 10 years ago now (hard to believe it's been that long). However, it's quite apparent the cheap job they did on rebuilding it. I was on it a few weekends ago, and it was pothole central near US 30 especially it seems.
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/06265aef-75cd-40cd-9e84-00e4481d3942)
Highlights
* Item 16 demolishes a few houses in Barrington for the future US 14 grade separation with the CN/ex EJE Railroad
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
* Items 64 and 65 reconstruct Plum Grove Road in Schaumburg from IL 72 north to the north end of the road next to I-90.
(edited to fix link)
Wow. The Barrington Canadian National/Northwest Highway/US 14 grade separation is going to actually happen? I lived in that area 10 years ago, and they were talking then like it would happen within a year...
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 30, 2018, 07:54:03 PM
Wow. The Barrington Canadian National/Northwest Highway/US 14 grade separation is going to actually happen? I lived in that area 10 years ago, and they were talking then like it would happen within a year...
From what I understand, Barrington wanted the CN to pay for the overpass similar to the US 34 and US 30 overpasses that were stipulated by the Surface Transportation Board to be primarily funded by CN as a condition orf its takeover of the former EJ&E Ry. Didn't happen that way, and it took some time for the funding split to be worked out and funded.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
Quote from: edwaleni on July 05, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
I thought the bridges were a lot older than that. Wow.
Quote from: inkyatari on July 06, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 05, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
I thought the bridges were a lot older than that. Wow.
The I-55 bridge over the Des Plaines River (sometimes known as the Smith Bridge) was built in 1957 as part of the reroute of US-66.
The area where I hit the pothole was south of that bridge but before the original Arsenal Road exit. So the road/creek bridge was approximately 26 years old when the pothole formed. The bridge had a small crest to it which was the norm for highway construction in 1956 when it was US-66.
When the road was replaced (ultimately by the Arsenal Road exit relocation) IDOT removed the crest and installed a simple 2 tube metal culvert.
Since modern highways have pitch at build now, drainage of the area is not an issue.
Obviously because I was nearly killed there I am more accutely aware of its comings and goings.
The bridge itself has been updated 3 or 4 times since it was built but the last one was in 2004. It is 60 years old now and seen a great deal of use in its life. The constant use of salt to de-ice the road has probably driven the constant rebuilds.
Quote from: edwaleni on July 17, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 06, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 05, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
I thought the bridges were a lot older than that. Wow.
The I-55 bridge over the Des Plaines River (sometimes known as the Smith Bridge) was built in 1957 as part of the reroute of US-66.
The area where I hit the pothole was south of that bridge but before the original Arsenal Road exit. So the road/creek bridge was approximately 26 years old when the pothole formed. The bridge had a small crest to it which was the norm for highway construction in 1956 when it was US-66.
When the road was replaced (ultimately by the Arsenal Road exit relocation) IDOT removed the crest and installed a simple 2 tube metal culvert.
Since modern highways have pitch at build now, drainage of the area is not an issue.
Obviously because I was nearly killed there I am more accutely aware of its comings and goings.
The bridge itself has been updated 3 or 4 times since it was built but the last one was in 2004. It is 60 years old now and seen a great deal of use in its life. The constant use of salt to de-ice the road has probably driven the constant rebuilds.
OK, I'm thinking of the bridges over the tracks and creek to the north of the River Rd. exit.
Quote from: inkyatari on July 17, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 17, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 06, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 05, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
I thought the bridges were a lot older than that. Wow.
The I-55 bridge over the Des Plaines River (sometimes known as the Smith Bridge) was built in 1957 as part of the reroute of US-66.
The area where I hit the pothole was south of that bridge but before the original Arsenal Road exit. So the road/creek bridge was approximately 26 years old when the pothole formed. The bridge had a small crest to it which was the norm for highway construction in 1956 when it was US-66.
When the road was replaced (ultimately by the Arsenal Road exit relocation) IDOT removed the crest and installed a simple 2 tube metal culvert.
Since modern highways have pitch at build now, drainage of the area is not an issue.
Obviously because I was nearly killed there I am more accutely aware of its comings and goings.
The bridge itself has been updated 3 or 4 times since it was built but the last one was in 2004. It is 60 years old now and seen a great deal of use in its life. The constant use of salt to de-ice the road has probably driven the constant rebuilds.
OK, I'm thinking of the bridges over the tracks and creek to the north of the River Rd. exit.
You are thinking of Grant Creek and the bridge over the BNSF just south of Blodgett Road.
I am familiar with that bridge.
The creek bridge where my motorcycle met its demise feeds that same creek.
I can only assume that bridge was built in 1957 along with the rest of the US-66 re-route.
Quote from: edwaleni on July 17, 2018, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 17, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 17, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 06, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 05, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
I thought the bridges were a lot older than that. Wow.
The I-55 bridge over the Des Plaines River (sometimes known as the Smith Bridge) was built in 1957 as part of the reroute of US-66.
The area where I hit the pothole was south of that bridge but before the original Arsenal Road exit. So the road/creek bridge was approximately 26 years old when the pothole formed. The bridge had a small crest to it which was the norm for highway construction in 1956 when it was US-66.
When the road was replaced (ultimately by the Arsenal Road exit relocation) IDOT removed the crest and installed a simple 2 tube metal culvert.
Since modern highways have pitch at build now, drainage of the area is not an issue.
Obviously because I was nearly killed there I am more accutely aware of its comings and goings.
The bridge itself has been updated 3 or 4 times since it was built but the last one was in 2004. It is 60 years old now and seen a great deal of use in its life. The constant use of salt to de-ice the road has probably driven the constant rebuilds.
OK, I'm thinking of the bridges over the tracks and creek to the north of the River Rd. exit.
You are thinking of Grant Creek and the bridge over the BNSF just south of Blodgett Road.
I am familiar with that bridge.
The creek bridge where my motorcycle met its demise feeds that same creek.
I can only assume that bridge was built in 1957 along with the rest of the US-66 re-route.
In short, it's just baffling that both those sets of bridges haven't been replaced at this point. Replace those bridges and widen I-55 to three lanes each way at least to a little South of Arsenal Road interchange.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 17, 2018, 11:20:20 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 17, 2018, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 17, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 17, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 06, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 05, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 02, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (//http://)
Highlights
* Item 59 constructs median crossovers for I-55 north and south of the BNSF and Grant Creek bridges between the Arsenal Road and River Road interchanges.
Are they going to finally replace those fucking bridges over the creek and tracks? THey needed to be replaced 30 years ago.
I know I was nearly killed in 1983 on I-55 NB just before Arsenal Road when my motorcycle hit a pothole where a creek bridge met the pavement. Since it was nighttime my headlight didnt catch it until after it was too late to manuever and I hit it directly.
It threw me a foot up in the air and I landed back on top of my bike with my toes dragging on the asphalt.
Both my tires were blown out, my wheels were bent and I was lucky to get home alive.
I called IDOT and warned them about what happened but they didn't care. I came back through in my car a month later and the pothole was still there, just bigger. You could see where people were getting tire blowouts and were out changing them.
It was patched 2 months after. The creek bridge was finally removed in 1992.
I thought the bridges were a lot older than that. Wow.
The I-55 bridge over the Des Plaines River (sometimes known as the Smith Bridge) was built in 1957 as part of the reroute of US-66.
The area where I hit the pothole was south of that bridge but before the original Arsenal Road exit. So the road/creek bridge was approximately 26 years old when the pothole formed. The bridge had a small crest to it which was the norm for highway construction in 1956 when it was US-66.
When the road was replaced (ultimately by the Arsenal Road exit relocation) IDOT removed the crest and installed a simple 2 tube metal culvert.
Since modern highways have pitch at build now, drainage of the area is not an issue.
Obviously because I was nearly killed there I am more accutely aware of its comings and goings.
The bridge itself has been updated 3 or 4 times since it was built but the last one was in 2004. It is 60 years old now and seen a great deal of use in its life. The constant use of salt to de-ice the road has probably driven the constant rebuilds.
OK, I'm thinking of the bridges over the tracks and creek to the north of the River Rd. exit.
You are thinking of Grant Creek and the bridge over the BNSF just south of Blodgett Road.
I am familiar with that bridge.
The creek bridge where my motorcycle met its demise feeds that same creek.
I can only assume that bridge was built in 1957 along with the rest of the US-66 re-route.
In short, it's just baffling that both those sets of bridges haven't been replaced at this point. Replace those bridges and widen I-55 to three lanes each way at least to a little South of Arsenal Road interchange.
I suppose you mean stuff like this?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/847/42770940704_99ecc1d0e3_c.jpg)
Quote from: edwaleni on July 18, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 17, 2018, 11:20:20 PM
In short, it's just baffling that both those sets of bridges haven't been replaced at this point. Replace those bridges and widen I-55 to three lanes each way at least to a little South of Arsenal Road interchange.
I suppose you mean stuff like this?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/847/42770940704_99ecc1d0e3_c.jpg)
More like this, but 10x worse in the two years since Street View went through there...
https://goo.gl/maps/UoMt2CidcYP2
Quote from: inkyatari on July 18, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 18, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 17, 2018, 11:20:20 PM
In short, it's just baffling that both those sets of bridges haven't been replaced at this point. Replace those bridges and widen I-55 to three lanes each way at least to a little South of Arsenal Road interchange.
I suppose you mean stuff like this?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/847/42770940704_99ecc1d0e3_c.jpg)
More like this, but 10x worse in the two years since Street View went through there...
https://goo.gl/maps/UoMt2CidcYP2
That's the one that had the hole open up in the southbound lanes, IIRC, last year.
Quote from: Brandon on July 18, 2018, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 18, 2018, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on July 18, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 17, 2018, 11:20:20 PM
In short, it's just baffling that both those sets of bridges haven't been replaced at this point. Replace those bridges and widen I-55 to three lanes each way at least to a little South of Arsenal Road interchange.
I suppose you mean stuff like this?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/847/42770940704_99ecc1d0e3_c.jpg)
More like this, but 10x worse in the two years since Street View went through there...
https://goo.gl/maps/UoMt2CidcYP2
That's the one that had the hole open up in the southbound lanes, IIRC, last year.
Yep, that's the one. As soon as I figure out my new action cam, I'm planning on getting a video of I-55 from Weber Rd. down to those bridges.
It's not pretty.
Quote from: inkyatari on July 18, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
Yep, that's the one. As soon as I figure out my new action cam, I'm planning on getting a video of I-55 from Weber Rd. down to those bridges.
It's not pretty.
No, it's definitely not. There are several patches on both side (nbd & sbd) that have had decent sized potholes just open up. Even IDOT's patchwork is crumbling.
Quote from: Brandon on July 18, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on July 18, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
Yep, that's the one. As soon as I figure out my new action cam, I'm planning on getting a video of I-55 from Weber Rd. down to those bridges.
It's not pretty.
No, it's definitely not. There are several patches on both side (nbd & sbd) that have had decent sized potholes just open up. Even IDOT's patchwork is crumbling.
Take your camera underneath the bridge. What you are driving on looks better than what you see underneath I would imagine.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/06265aef-75cd-40cd-9e84-00e4481d3942)
Highlights
Missed a big one. 2nd item is 1.4 miles of reconstruction on I-80 from 1.1 miles west of US 30 to 0.3 miles east of US 30; reconstruction of I-80 at US 30 interchange; reconstruction of 0.5 miles of US 30 including re-decking and partial bridge replacement of I-80 over US 30, Metra Railroad and Hickory Creek within the Village of New Lenox. Not 100% sure but I think it fixes the lane drop before the interchange on the east, moving it near the new overhead trail bridge 0.3 miles to the west (for the time being).
Quote from: Rick Powell on July 19, 2018, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
List of projects for the August 3, 2018 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/06265aef-75cd-40cd-9e84-00e4481d3942)
Missed a big one. 2nd item is 1.4 miles of reconstruction on I-80 from 1.1 miles west of US 30 to 0.3 miles east of US 30; reconstruction of I-80 at US 30 interchange; reconstruction of 0.5 miles of US 30 including re-decking and partial bridge replacement of I-80 over US 30, Metra Railroad and Hickory Creek within the Village of New Lenox. Not 100% sure but I think it fixes the lane drop before the interchange on the east, moving it near the new overhead trail bridge 0.3 miles to the west (for the time being).
Oh my god. If you look at the pay item list (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbContractDetail/Index/06265aef-75cd-40cd-9e84-00e4481d3942?page=2&contractId=bf9bba3a-8951-463c-8cd1-f180bb3de727), some entity (I'm guessing the village) specified exactly what species of trees to use for the landscaping. And on a broader scale--any pay item with a letter at the start of the code is a special item not typical to the already expansive list of IDOT's coded pay items. In other words, they are special requests atypical to normal IDOT work.
LOOK AT ALL THE SPECIAL PAY ITEMS. GOOD LORD. What team of finicky perfectionists put this together? I know these items weren't the state's idea.
Listing of projects for the November 9, 2018 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/51c00778-3051-4420-abd7-028711f7511e)
Highlights
* Item 2 signalizes the IL 173/Wilmot Road intersection in McHenry County
* Item 3 is more work at the Circle Interchange
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange intersection to a roundabout
* Item 45 includes interchange reconstruction and bridge replacement on the US 20 bypass of Rocford - appears to be around the IL 2 interchange
* Item 59 widens I-57 4.4 miles in Franklin and Williamson Counties
* Item 81 includes upgrading traffic signals on Randall Road from Silver Glen Road to the McHenry County border (appears to be another flashing yellow arrow project)
* Item 83 is another contract for Longmeadow Parkway, this time for work at IL 25
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 81 includes upgrading traffic signals on Randall Road from Silver Glen Road to the McHenry County border (appears to be another flashing yellow arrow project)
I'm interested in why this required an IDOT letting, if this is a Kane County highway. Kane County is using federal money to convert its signals? I wonder what's the basis for the use of federal money, if so.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
Listing of projects for the November 9, 2018 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/51c00778-3051-4420-abd7-028711f7511e)
Highlights
* Item 45 includes interchange reconstruction and bridge replacement on the US 20 bypass of Rocford - appears to be around the IL 2 interchange
Expected, they recently re-did the river bridges between IL-251 and IL-2. Now it'll be the interchanges turn for new bridges
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
Quote from: inkyatari on October 08, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes? Of course, we are discussing IDiOT here.
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes?
On the way to my Metra train this AM, I went on the section of IL 47 four-lane from I-80 to Caton Farm Road south of Yorkville. It's about 90% complete, with a short gap of paving on the north end for the future NB lanes and some shoulder work, installing signals at US 52, and a few other odds and ends. It will be about 12 miles of new 4-lane when fully open, probably late this fall. District 1 also programmed a 4-lane section between Galena Road (about a mile south into Kendall County) and Sugar Grove for construction, so at least it is on the horizon. And the Tollway will construct a respectable length of IL 47 to four-lanes when they redo the I-88 interchange.
Quote from: Rick Powell on October 08, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes?
On the way to my Metra train this AM, I went on the section of IL 47 four-lane from I-80 to Caton Farm Road south of Yorkville. It's about 90% complete, with a short gap of paving on the north end for the future NB lanes and some shoulder work, installing signals at US 52, and a few other odds and ends. It will be about 12 miles of new 4-lane when fully open, probably late this fall. District 1 also programmed a 4-lane section between Galena Road (about a mile south into Kendall County) and Sugar Grove for construction, so at least it is on the horizon. And the Tollway will construct a respectable length of IL 47 to four-lanes when they redo the I-88 interchange.
Not sure how far north they'll go, but the southern end from I-88 to Waubonsee will likely be done. They have a short 4-lane segment from Waubonsee to Cross St in Sugar Grove
Quote from: Rick Powell on October 08, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes?
On the way to my Metra train this AM, I went on the section of IL 47 four-lane from I-80 to Caton Farm Road south of Yorkville. It's about 90% complete, with a short gap of paving on the north end for the future NB lanes and some shoulder work, installing signals at US 52, and a few other odds and ends. It will be about 12 miles of new 4-lane when fully open, probably late this fall. District 1 also programmed a 4-lane section between Galena Road (about a mile south into Kendall County) and Sugar Grove for construction, so at least it is on the horizon. And the Tollway will construct a respectable length of IL 47 to four-lanes when they redo the I-88 interchange.
I'mlovign the extra wide shoulder. Would make bicycle riding from Morris to Yorkville easier.
Quote from: ET21 on October 08, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on October 08, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes?
On the way to my Metra train this AM, I went on the section of IL 47 four-lane from I-80 to Caton Farm Road south of Yorkville. It's about 90% complete, with a short gap of paving on the north end for the future NB lanes and some shoulder work, installing signals at US 52, and a few other odds and ends. It will be about 12 miles of new 4-lane when fully open, probably late this fall. District 1 also programmed a 4-lane section between Galena Road (about a mile south into Kendall County) and Sugar Grove for construction, so at least it is on the horizon. And the Tollway will construct a respectable length of IL 47 to four-lanes when they redo the I-88 interchange.
Not sure how far north they'll go, but the southern end from I-88 to Waubonsee will likely be done. They have a short 4-lane segment from Waubonsee to Cross St in Sugar Grove
The whole thing down to Morris should have been four-laned 10 or 15 years ago, in my opinion.
Quote from: kphoger on October 08, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 08, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on October 08, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes?
On the way to my Metra train this AM, I went on the section of IL 47 four-lane from I-80 to Caton Farm Road south of Yorkville. It's about 90% complete, with a short gap of paving on the north end for the future NB lanes and some shoulder work, installing signals at US 52, and a few other odds and ends. It will be about 12 miles of new 4-lane when fully open, probably late this fall. District 1 also programmed a 4-lane section between Galena Road (about a mile south into Kendall County) and Sugar Grove for construction, so at least it is on the horizon. And the Tollway will construct a respectable length of IL 47 to four-lanes when they redo the I-88 interchange.
Not sure how far north they'll go, but the southern end from I-88 to Waubonsee will likely be done. They have a short 4-lane segment from Waubonsee to Cross St in Sugar Grove
The whole thing down to Morris should have been four-laned 10 or 15 years ago, in my opinion.
In fantasy land, IL-47 should have been the Prairie Parkway
Quote from: ET21 on October 08, 2018, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 08, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 08, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on October 08, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2018, 11:50:41 AM
Why not just bite the bullet and widen IL-47 to four lanes?
On the way to my Metra train this AM, I went on the section of IL 47 four-lane from I-80 to Caton Farm Road south of Yorkville. It's about 90% complete, with a short gap of paving on the north end for the future NB lanes and some shoulder work, installing signals at US 52, and a few other odds and ends. It will be about 12 miles of new 4-lane when fully open, probably late this fall. District 1 also programmed a 4-lane section between Galena Road (about a mile south into Kendall County) and Sugar Grove for construction, so at least it is on the horizon. And the Tollway will construct a respectable length of IL 47 to four-lanes when they redo the I-88 interchange.
Not sure how far north they'll go, but the southern end from I-88 to Waubonsee will likely be done. They have a short 4-lane segment from Waubonsee to Cross St in Sugar Grove
The whole thing down to Morris should have been four-laned 10 or 15 years ago, in my opinion.
In fantasy land, IL-47 should have been the Prairie Parkway
Bypass Morris, bypass Yorkville, 4 lane the rest.. Easy peasy
Quote from: ET21 on October 08, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
Not sure how far north they'll go, but the southern end from I-88 to Waubonsee will likely be done. They have a short 4-lane segment from Waubonsee to Cross St in Sugar Grove
The Preferred Alternative from the interchange study goes from Old Oaks Road/College Drive (existing 4-lane section in Sugar Grove) a little more than a mile south of I-88, north to Green Road about 2 1/2 miles north of I-88 (total length about 3.8 miles). The interchange and the IL 47 widening were treated as sort of separate but overlapping planning projects.
http://www.sugargroveinterchange.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/S-5_IL47-at-I88-GRAEF-Preferred-Alt.pdf
Quote from: inkyatari on October 08, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
So you're complaining about no longer having to stop when no one is there? Don't understand that logic, it's been proven that RABs simplify the flow of traffic
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 08, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
So you're complaining about no longer having to stop when no one is there? Don't understand that logic, it's been proven that RABs simplify the flow of traffic
Maybe the new one is justified, but the current one was a waste of money.
Quote from: inkyatari on October 09, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 08, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
So you're complaining about no longer having to stop when no one is there? Don't understand that logic, it's been proven that RABs simplify the flow of traffic
Maybe the new one is justified, but the current one was a waste of money.
Still, any construction project that helps with the flow of traffic is not a waste of money. Want to see a waste of money? Go to WI where you'll see WIS32 in a state of disrepair from the state line to racine with a couple of exceptions while, at the same time they resurfaced WIS165 when it's pavement had at least another 6 years of life left in it. Then, they added a new traffic light there that lasts up to 3 minutes even when there's no cross traffic.
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 09, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 08, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
So you're complaining about no longer having to stop when no one is there? Don't understand that logic, it's been proven that RABs simplify the flow of traffic
Maybe the new one is justified, but the current one was a waste of money.
Still, any construction project that helps with the flow of traffic is not a waste of money. Want to see a waste of money? Go to WI where you'll see WIS32 in a state of disrepair from the state line to racine with a couple of exceptions while, at the same time they resurfaced WIS165 when it's pavement had at least another 6 years of life left in it. Then, they added a new traffic light there that lasts up to 3 minutes even when there's no cross traffic.
I drive I-55 every morning from I-80 to Weber Rd, and every evening from Weber Rd. to Lorenzo Rd. I know all about disrepair.
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 04:18:15 PM
any construction project that helps with the flow of traffic is not a waste of money.
Do you think about the things you say before you type them?
If IDOT had constructed a three-level stack interchange instead, wouldn't you say that's a waste of money?
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
I know all about disrepair.
I'm totally going to take this quote out of context now. =P hahaha kidding
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
I drive I-55 every morning from I-80 to Weber Rd, and every evening from Weber Rd. to Lorenzo Rd. I know all about disrepair.
Yes I-55 is in horrible shape especially considering how recently it was reconstructed. That's what bothers me the most--I don't think the pavement should have deteriorated that much in such a short period of time.
Also I-80 from Minooka to US30 in New Lenox is looking terri-bad as of late. As of this year I've declared it downright atrocious...as just over the past year it's deteriorated surprisingly badly. It's only going to get worse as IDOT takes their time deciding just what exactly they want to do with it (aka Phase I and Phase II then procuring the actual project). I cross the Des Plaines River bridge every day for work, and ...hoo boy even the concrete pavement is getting sizeable chunks punched out of it.
Quote from: kphoger on October 10, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
Do you think about the things you say before you type them?
You must be lots of fun at parties.
Quote from: kphoger on October 10, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
If IDOT had constructed a three-level stack interchange instead, wouldn't you say that's a waste of money?
Not if the studies showed that it was the least expensive alternative to improve the flow for a given intersection.
Quote from: GeekJedi on October 10, 2018, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 10, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
If IDOT had constructed a three-level stack interchange instead, wouldn't you say that's a waste of money?
Not if the studies showed that it was the least expensive alternative to improve the flow for a given intersection.
But that's not what he said. He said "any construction project that helps with the flow of traffic." And he said so in response to a post specifically about the intersection of Route 47 & Plato Road.
Please tell me you don't actually think a three-level stack interchange at Route 47 & Plato Road
wouldn't be a waste of money. It would fit his two original criteria: (1) it's a construction project, and (2) it would improve the flow. But it would still be a massive waste of money.
I am trying to drive home a serious point with this. Just because something improves the flow of traffic, that doesn't necessarily mean it's not a waste of money. In your most recent comment that I quoted, you mention two factors side-by-side: "least expensive" and "improve the flow". But those two are not binary factors. Often, the most expensive alternative improves traffic the most, the cheapest improves traffic the least, and the others fall somewhere in the middle. The key question to ask about any given project is this:
Is it worth $x million to improve the traffic flow at this intersection by xx%? Or better yet...
Is it worth taking $x million away from other projects to improve the traffic flow at this intersection by xx%?If the improvement in traffic flow is negligible, then nearly any construction project should be called a waste of money.
Don't get me wrong: I love roundabouts. But what
paulthemapguy was referring to is Wisconsin's habit of installing roundabouts where there was
nothing wrong with the existing intersection design. You might like what there ends up being, and so might I, and there might even be a slight improvement to traffic flow. But, if they had just left well enough alone, then maybe they could have used that unspent money to do some of that resurfacing he was talking about.
I had an overall skepticism about roundabouts at first, but I'm very convinced now that they are the best decision in certain circumstances. Putting them in the middle of nowhere on a high-speed road with a low ADT really doesn't make any sense to me. Now that I've thought about it more, IL-47 can get pretty crowded. So if that 4-way stop creates long queues on IL-47, maybe a roundabout would be a better alternative. Not entirely convinced IL-47 and Plato will improve after roundabout installation, but I can be convinced otherwise--and I WILL be convinced if the realtime result improves, obviously.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
I had an overall skepticism about roundabouts at first, but I'm very convinced now that they are the best decision in certain circumstances. Putting them in the middle of nowhere on a high-speed road with a low ADT really doesn't make any sense to me. Now that I've thought about it more, IL-47 can get pretty crowded. So if that 4-way stop creates long queues on IL-47, maybe a roundabout would be a better alternative. Not entirely convinced IL-47 and Plato will improve after roundabout installation, but I can be convinced otherwise--and I WILL be convinced if the realtime result improves, obviously.
My region has several roundabouts at highway intersections in rural areas. In my experience, they're a great improvement over the high-speed T-bone and rear-end accidents that used to happen before they were converted to roundabouts. And honestly, isn't
anything an improvement over a four-way stop?
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 02:30:56 PM
Also I-80 from Minooka to US30 in New Lenox is looking terri-bad as of late.
If you're not riding the left lane between Minooka and at least 55, you're just begging for your car to get destroyed. EB just before the 2 Mile I-55 BGS is a HUGE deteriorating spot in the pavement. No sir, not riding on it.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
I know all about disrepair.
I'm totally going to take this quote out of context now. =P hahaha kidding
Have I told you I hate you yet? :-D
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Yes I-55 is in horrible shape especially considering how recently it was reconstructed.
I really hate the piecemeal patching they're currently doing on I-55.
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
I know all about disrepair.
I'm totally going to take this quote out of context now. =P hahaha kidding
Have I told you I hate you yet? :-D
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Yes I-55 is in horrible shape especially considering how recently it was reconstructed.
I really hate the piecemeal patching they're currently doing on I-55.
Damn, the patching is almost as bumpy as the rotten pavement.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Putting them in the middle of nowhere on a high-speed road with a low ADT really doesn't make any sense to me.
Actually, those are some of the *best* places to put them. They all but eliminate high-speed accidents and fatalities, without the inconvenience of a 4-way stop.
Quote from: GeekJedi on October 10, 2018, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Putting them in the middle of nowhere on a high-speed road with a low ADT really doesn't make any sense to me.
Actually, those are some of the *best* places to put them. They all but eliminate high-speed accidents and fatalities, without the inconvenience of a 4-way stop.
I'm having a hard time believing this, but if I got some real-time experience with a roundabout in the middle of nowhere, I could be convinced. When you have a yield on a high-speed road instead of a stop sign, it creates ambiguity in what you need to do as a driver. With a stop sign, you stop--no question. With a yield sign, you have to look to your left to decide whether to stop or proceed. I can see drivers failing to make that decision of whether to stop or proceed based on traffic activity from the left.
I guess that if a spot is *TRULY* middle-of-nowhere, you wouldn't have conditions warranting a 4-way stop anyway. If an intersection is a 4-way stop recommended by traffic study, it might be true that ALL of those could be improved with roundabout installation (depending on the resources you'd want to invest). But if it's just a 4-way stop in the middle of nowhere because of precedent with a tiny ADT, no one is going to invest in upgrading that intersection in ANY way, shape or form :-D So it depends on what we're defining as "middle of nowhere." I just drove through North Dakota this year so I have reshaped my perspective on how "nowhere" a place can really be!
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
Have I told you I hate you yet? :-D
:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 04:58:29 PM
If you're not riding the left lane between Minooka and at least 55, you're just begging for your car to get destroyed. EB just before the 2 Mile I-55 BGS is a HUGE deteriorating spot in the pavement. No sir, not riding on it.
Westbound from I-55 to Minooka is almost as bad. But yeah that eastbound segment in particular is atrocious. Agreeing to ride that section of I-80 is a pact of automobile destruction.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 11, 2018, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: GeekJedi on October 10, 2018, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Putting them in the middle of nowhere on a high-speed road with a low ADT really doesn't make any sense to me.
Actually, those are some of the *best* places to put them. They all but eliminate high-speed accidents and fatalities, without the inconvenience of a 4-way stop.
I'm having a hard time believing this, but if I got some real-time experience with a roundabout in the middle of nowhere, I could be convinced. When you have a yield on a high-speed road instead of a stop sign, it creates ambiguity in what you need to do as a driver. With a stop sign, you stop--no question. With a yield sign, you have to look to your left to decide whether to stop or proceed. I can see drivers failing to make that decision of whether to stop or proceed based on traffic activity from the left.
I guess that if a spot is *TRULY* middle-of-nowhere, you wouldn't have conditions warranting a 4-way stop anyway. If an intersection is a 4-way stop recommended by traffic study, it might be true that ALL of those could be improved with roundabout installation (depending on the resources you'd want to invest). But if it's just a 4-way stop in the middle of nowhere because of precedent with a tiny ADT, no one is going to invest in upgrading that intersection in ANY way, shape or form :-D So it depends on what we're defining as "middle of nowhere." I just drove through North Dakota this year so I have reshaped my perspective on how "nowhere" a place can really be!
Here's a good example (https://goo.gl/maps/3etEuqTDXB52) in my area. US-400 has an AADT of around 4000 at this location (30% of which is trucks), while K-47 has an AADT of only one-third that figure. Almost nobody drives into Fredonia itself who isn't local. It used to be controlled by a two-way STOP, which on the surface seems like it should suffice. However, that gas station on the east side of the road is a hugely popular pit-stop for people traveling from Wichita to Missouri, as it is the only gas station for miles and miles along 400 that doesn't have a distinctly "rural" (read: grungy) atmosphere. Not only does that mean a lot of turning trucks, but also a lot of Branson-bound and Lake of the Ozarks-bound RVs and camping trailers. Rear-end and T-bone collisions were common, what with all the turning traffic. Now, with the roundabout, accidents are fewer and less severe. The main design failure is the hard curbs, which are not exactly truck- and RV-friendly and have apparently led to tire blowouts.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 11, 2018, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: GeekJedi on October 10, 2018, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 10, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Putting them in the middle of nowhere on a high-speed road with a low ADT really doesn't make any sense to me.
Actually, those are some of the *best* places to put them. They all but eliminate high-speed accidents and fatalities, without the inconvenience of a 4-way stop.
I'm having a hard time believing this, but if I got some real-time experience with a roundabout in the middle of nowhere, I could be convinced. When you have a yield on a high-speed road instead of a stop sign, it creates ambiguity in what you need to do as a driver. With a stop sign, you stop--no question. With a yield sign, you have to look to your left to decide whether to stop or proceed. I can see drivers failing to make that decision of whether to stop or proceed based on traffic activity from the left.
I'm talking about a 2-way stop (though even a 4-way could be considered). The issue here is that you can't "blow through" a roundabout. Any accident at one would be at a low speed. That's why they're favored in remote locations where you have two fairly significant roads connect (even if they don't have a ton of traffic).
But, alas, I'm getting off-topic. There are a bunch of threads dedicated to roundabouts. Sorry for the derail!
Quote from: GeekJedi on October 11, 2018, 02:04:48 PM
The issue here is that you can't "blow through" a roundabout.
Yes you can. Just ask
tradephoric for examples of people driving straight into the central island.
Quote from: inkyatari on October 10, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 09, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on October 09, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on October 08, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 06, 2018, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 05, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
* Item 8 converts the IL 47/Plato Road interchange to a roundabout
Oh god...don't tell me Illinois is going to start doing what Wisconsin does and start putting roundabouts on major highways in the middle of nowhere. IIRC that's a 4-way stop right now...also something I'm not a fan of, when one road has much more traffic than the other.
Oh dear lord. It's just a couple miles north of the other pointless roundabout on 47.
So you're complaining about no longer having to stop when no one is there? Don't understand that logic, it's been proven that RABs simplify the flow of traffic
Maybe the new one is justified, but the current one was a waste of money.
Still, any construction project that helps with the flow of traffic is not a waste of money. Want to see a waste of money? Go to WI where you'll see WIS32 in a state of disrepair from the state line to racine with a couple of exceptions while, at the same time they resurfaced WIS165 when it's pavement had at least another 6 years of life left in it. Then, they added a new traffic light there that lasts up to 3 minutes even when there's no cross traffic.
I drive I-55 every morning from I-80 to Weber Rd, and every evening from Weber Rd. to Lorenzo Rd. I know all about disrepair.
Hmm, I drove I55 down to Springfield as recently as August and didn't notice anything unacceptably rough, there were a couple of failing patches here and there but nowhere near as bad as WIS32 from the State line to Racine or US12 through Walworth county or even US20 through LaPorte County IN before they resurfaced it.
List of projects for the January 18, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/4eeb1647-bf99-422d-98be-ce2425673a0c). Of note:
* Item 93 is a "[r]ealignment and widening project on US 30 at the intersections with Harvey Rd. and Treasure Drive" in Kendall County.
* Item 113 involves a high friction surface treatment and traffic signal upgrades on Kirk Road between IL 56 and Cherry Lane in Kane County.
* Item 118 is for an intersection improvement for the Randall Road/Stearns Road intersection in Kane County. The pay item list has signal masts arms with lengths of 78 and 80 feet.
* Item 133 involves construction of two roundabouts in Highland: One at the Broadway/St. Rose Road intersection, and another at the Iberg Road/ Veterans Honor Parkway intersection.
* Item 143 is for modifications at 27 intersections in southern Kane County. Appears to be a lot of signal work.
* Item 144 is for improvements to the Kirk Road/Fabyan Parkway intersection in Kane County.
* Item 151 involves reconstruction of "Prospect Avenue from Curtis Road to Windsor Rd. in the City of Champaign."
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 07, 2018, 09:36:10 PM
List of projects for the January 18, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/4eeb1647-bf99-422d-98be-ce2425673a0c). Of note:
* Item 93 is a "[r]ealignment and widening project on US 30 at the intersections with Harvey Rd. and Treasure Drive" in Kendall County.
* Item 113 involves a high friction surface treatment and traffic signal upgrades on Kirk Road between IL 56 and Cherry Lane in Kane County.
* Item 118 is for an intersection improvement for the Randall Road/Stearns Road intersection in Kane County. The pay item list has signal masts arms with lengths of 78 and 80 feet.
* Item 133 involves construction of two roundabouts in Highland: One at the Broadway/St. Rose Road intersection, and another at the Iberg Road/ Veterans Honor Parkway intersection.
* Item 143 is for modifications at 27 intersections in southern Kane County. Appears to be a lot of signal work.
* Item 144 is for improvements to the Kirk Road/Fabyan Parkway intersection in Kane County.
* Item 151 involves reconstruction of "Prospect Avenue from Curtis Road to Windsor Rd. in the City of Champaign."
Also of note is the resurfacing of US41 from IL120 to Park Av West in Lake County after at least 2 years of filling in potholes that constantly form in between the lanes.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 07, 2018, 09:36:10 PM
List of projects for the January 18, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/4eeb1647-bf99-422d-98be-ce2425673a0c). Of note:
* Item 93 is a "[r]ealignment and widening project on US 30 at the intersections with Harvey Rd. and Treasure Drive" in Kendall County.
* Item 113 involves a high friction surface treatment and traffic signal upgrades on Kirk Road between IL 56 and Cherry Lane in Kane County.
* Item 118 is for an intersection improvement for the Randall Road/Stearns Road intersection in Kane County. The pay item list has signal masts arms with lengths of 78 and 80 feet.
* Item 133 involves construction of two roundabouts in Highland: One at the Broadway/St. Rose Road intersection, and another at the Iberg Road/ Veterans Honor Parkway intersection.
* Item 143 is for modifications at 27 intersections in southern Kane County. Appears to be a lot of signal work.
* Item 144 is for improvements to the Kirk Road/Fabyan Parkway intersection in Kane County.
* Item 151 involves reconstruction of "Prospect Avenue from Curtis Road to Windsor Rd. in the City of Champaign."
Interesting that item 25 brings up the existence of IL-316:
QuoteSuperstructure replacement on SN 015-0070 carrying 900 N/IL 316 over Riley Creek Branch, 0.8 miles northwest of Loxa.
And since I'm from Oswego originally, I just put an announcement on social media that Harvey Road is going to dead-end at US30, and that you have to turn onto Treasure Drive to access the new stoplight if you want to continue northbound. (In response to item 93).
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 1X (review and inspection only, to actually be bid in a future letting) is for a new tied arch bridge (going off of the pay item HANGER ASSEMBLIES FOR TIED ARCH SPAN) for EB IL 150 over the Illinois River, plus interchange improvements at either end of the bridge.
* Item 9: Bridge painting around the I-55/IL 171 interchange
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
* Item 33: Repairs to one of the bridges for I-80 over the Des Plaines River
* Item 42: "Intersection improvement and traffic signal replacement at IL 15 (Missouri Ave) and IL 163/Pocket Road in Alorton"
* Item 43: "Traffic signal installation on IL 4 at the I-64 eastbound ramp"
* Item 101: The US 51 intersection with Andrews Street in Macon County gets a J-turn
* Item 114: "Sign installation on I-55 and I-72 Alternate"
* Item 125: "Bridge structural steel repair and bearing replacement of the bridges carrying I-80 over Des Plaines River in Joliet"
* Item 127: "Building removals at 481 Sisinawa Avenue, East Dubuque and 11653 US 20 NW of Galena"
* Item 144: Reconstruction of IL 19 between IL 59 and Bartlett Road
* Item 167: The US 20 interchange with Randall Road in Elgin gets a new ramp for NB Randall to EB US 20; Weld Road gets a cul-de-sac
Item 43: Is IDOT expecting more traffic at the Civilian/Commercial Terminal of BLV/Scott AFB/Mid-America Airport?
The area at that interchange is not that built up. But if IDOT wants a light...
Quote from: ilpt4u on February 01, 2019, 08:27:24 PM
Item 43: Is IDOT expecting more traffic at the Civilian/Commercial Terminal of BLV/Scott AFB/Mid-America Airport?
The area at that interchange is not that built up. But if IDOT wants a light...
I think there's a decent amount of left-turning thru traffic coming from the north. Google Maps sends travelers down IL 4 as an outer bypass of St. Louis for traffic between I-55 and I-64, presumably because it only passes through one town and doesn't go very far west. Good way to get between Springfield (and points north/west) and Mt. Vernon (and points southeast).
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Highlights
* Item 1X (review and inspection only, to actually be bid in a future letting) is for a new tied arch bridge (going off of the pay item HANGER ASSEMBLIES FOR TIED ARCH SPAN) for EB IL 150 over the Illinois River, plus interchange improvements at either end of the bridge.
Whoa, that's interesting. I never really thought there was a big problem with the McClugage bridge, although the shoulders are kinda tight. Does anyone know what kind of interchange improvements they're planning?
Quote from: pianocello on February 03, 2019, 01:29:22 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on February 01, 2019, 08:27:24 PM
Item 43: Is IDOT expecting more traffic at the Civilian/Commercial Terminal of BLV/Scott AFB/Mid-America Airport?
The area at that interchange is not that built up. But if IDOT wants a light...
I think there's a decent amount of left-turning thru traffic coming from the north. Google Maps sends travelers down IL 4 as an outer bypass of St. Louis for traffic between I-55 and I-64, presumably because it only passes through one town and doesn't go very far west. Good way to get between Springfield (and points north/west) and Mt. Vernon (and points southeast).
I have used IL 4 between I-55 and I-64 plenty of times. The road handles the traffic. I also think the interchanges of IL 4 with I-55, I-70, and I-64 are ok without lights. Heck, Indiana style traffic circles would be better than sitting at a worthless red light, when no other traffic is around
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Quote from: inkyatari on February 03, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Better than not at all.
Quote from: Crash_It on February 04, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 03, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Better than not at all.
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on February 04, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 03, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Better than not at all.
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
They built the crossovers this last summer....
Quote from: inkyatari on February 04, 2019, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on February 04, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 03, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Better than not at all.
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
They built the crossovers this last summer....
Yuck. Lots of backups predicted on I-55 this summer, especially on Sunday afternoons. What a mess.
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:45:34 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 04, 2019, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on February 04, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 03, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Better than not at all.
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
They built the crossovers this last summer....
Yuck. Lots of backups predicted on I-55 this summer, especially on Sunday afternoons. What a mess.
I-57 to I-72 (Springfield) or I-70 (St Louis or SE MO north of Sikeston)
I-80 to I-39 (Bloomington/Normal)
The signed IL 110 Route for Kansas City (or sub in I-80 for I-88 to get to Western IL and I-74)
If the backups are bad, there are freeway alternates not too far out of the way
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
Bridge work? Without closing a lane?? WHAT!??
The crazy amount of truck traffic will make the slowdown through this area very grueling. All of them are trying to get to that Arsenal Road interchange. Good luck to anyone trying to come in from the south, or leave to the south out of the intermodal freight facilities. The only other legal entrance/exit is through Laraway Road to IL-53 to I-80...so I anticipate that area to get an increase in traffic as that bottleneck lies on I-55. I wonder if passenger cars will try to use W Frontage Road/Blodgett/River Road sneaking through the Des Plaines Fish & Wildlife area.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2019, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
Bridge work? Without closing a lane?? WHAT!??
The crazy amount of truck traffic will make the slowdown through this area very grueling. All of them are trying to get to that Arsenal Road interchange. Good luck to anyone trying to come in from the south, or leave to the south out of the intermodal freight facilities. The only other legal entrance/exit is through Laraway Road to IL-53 to I-80...so I anticipate that area to get an increase in traffic as that bottleneck lies on I-55. I wonder if passenger cars will try to use W Frontage Road/Blodgett/River Road sneaking through the Des Plaines Fish & Wildlife area.
IDOT, if they're smart (big if here), should post two alternates for I-55:
1. IL-47 to I-80
2. IL-53
Quote from: ilpt4u on February 05, 2019, 12:34:58 AM
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:45:34 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 04, 2019, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on February 04, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on February 04, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 03, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Listing of projects for the March 8, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37c3cd7b-72f4-47f6-81b9-d5d56ea7dfb3)
Highlights
* Item 25: Deck replacement for the bridges on I-55 over the BNSF Railroad and Grant creek south of the Arsenal Road interchange
Only 20 years too late
Better than not at all.
Finally got around to it.
Hoping that "deck replacement" means a new bridge, new pylons and wider shoulders and having both the NB and SB lanes done at the same time. There is room between the existing structures to build this. Then demolish the old structure.
This will keep backups from occurring in both directions.
If IDOT uses the cheap method, they will reroute all the traffic from one side to one lane on the other side until one bridge is done, then repeat the exercise on the other.
They built the crossovers this last summer....
Yuck. Lots of backups predicted on I-55 this summer, especially on Sunday afternoons. What a mess.
I-57 to I-72 (Springfield) or I-70 (St Louis or SE MO north of Sikeston)
I-80 to I-39 (Bloomington/Normal)
The signed IL 110 Route for Kansas City (or sub in I-80 for I-88 to get to Western IL and I-74)
If the backups are bad, there are freeway alternates not too far out of the way
The biggest issue is the backup of trucks going into the single lane as it is uphill going north. For a redeck, IDOT will push that single lane to the limit to get things to fit.
I will probably go up I-39 at Bloomington and bypass the madness.
Quote from: Brandon on February 05, 2019, 02:20:24 PM
IDOT, if they're smart (big if here), should post two alternates for I-55:
1. IL-47 to I-80
2. IL-53
I heartily agree with both of these. N River Road (Exit 241) is a heavily traveled truck route that lots of trucks will like to use as an alternate, but it's a county road. IDOT will almost always post detours that use exclusively state roads, though. I think I recall seeing the I-80/IL-47 posted as an alternate for another project on a nearby stretch of I-55 in the recent past (perhaps the Arsenal interchange or the I-55 Des Plaines bridges).
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2019, 04:29:05 PM
I think I recall seeing the I-80/IL-47 posted as an alternate for another project on a nearby stretch of I-55 in the recent past (perhaps the Arsenal interchange or the I-55 Des Plaines bridges).
IL 47 and I-80 were added as a marked alternate partway through the last round of work on I-55's Des Plaines River Bridges a few years ago.
IL 53 may not work as an alternate since there are also projects for working on I-80 at the Des Plaines River on the March 2019 Letting. Now if that supposed toll river bridge for Houbolt Road would be built one of these days . . .
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 06, 2019, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2019, 04:29:05 PM
I think I recall seeing the I-80/IL-47 posted as an alternate for another project on a nearby stretch of I-55 in the recent past (perhaps the Arsenal interchange or the I-55 Des Plaines bridges).
IL 47 and I-80 were added as a marked alternate partway through the last round of work on I-55's Des Plaines River Bridges a few years ago.
IL 53 may not work as an alternate since there are also projects for working on I-80 at the Des Plaines River on the March 2019 Letting. Now if that supposed toll river bridge for Houbolt Road would be built one of these days . . .
God, the need for that bridge from Houbolt to Laraway is intensifying. I'm a big fan of the idea.
Item 014 - 6.45 miles of 3P resurfacing and ADA ramps on IL 43 from north of US 30 to just north of US 6.
Harlem Ave is bad enough with concert traffic.
Item 021 - 6 miles of resurfacing on US 34 (Ogden Avenue) from Ivanhoe Ave to east of IL 83 (Kingery Highway in the Villages of Lisle, Downers Grove, Westmont and Clarendon Hills.
Ugh. But glad it will be done this year.
Item 032- 7.55 miles of Resurfacing (SMART) and pedestrian ramp project on IL 64 from IL 47 to Randall Road.
About time.
Item 124 - Resurfacing and pedestrian ramp improvements on US 14 (Northwest Highway) through the Village of Arlington Heights, Village of Mount Prospect and the city of Des Plaines
Another one desperately needed.
Item 144 - Roadway reconstruction on Irving Park Road from east of IL 59 to Bartlett Road in Streamwood.
Good.
Item 166 - Construct an extension of Kings Road from Rodeo Drive to Hassert Boulevard in Bollingbrook.
Only took them a decade to FINALLY do this.
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 10, 2019, 04:15:30 PM
Item 124 - Resurfacing and pedestrian ramp improvements on US 14 (Northwest Highway) through the Village of Arlington Heights, Village of Mount Prospect and the city of Des Plaines
Another one desperately needed.
Yes it is. Pothole central from 294 to the new residential development just past the tracks, and again from Golf to points west. They are also moving a water main by the train tracks
List of Projects for the April 26, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d86d8f4f-0aaf-4573-8246-32cd6cdde4cc)
Highlights
* Item 1X is replacement of the EB US 150 bridge over the Illinois River
* Item 5 puts a traffic signal at the IL 57 intersection with Main Street north of I-88, along with a couple bridge replacements
* Item 13 has repairs to the Brandon Road drawbridge in Joliet
* Item 15 removes the traffic signal at the IL 53/Walter Strawn intersections near Elwood, along with other pavement removal
* Item 105 is a rebid of Kane County's flashing yellow arrow project (covering the southern portion of the county) from January
* Item 138 is intersection improvements at the 75 Street/Naper Boulevard intersection
* Item 139 is intersection improvements to the US 52/Gougar Road intersection in Mahattan
* Item 155 is intersection improvements to the Pulaski Road intersection with 183rd Street in Country Club Hills
* Item 156 reconstructs Weiland Road in Lake County from Deerfield Road to Lake Cook Road
* Item 159 reconstructs Woodfield Road in Schaumburg from Martingale Road to the east frontage road for I-290
* Item 160 reconstructs Woodfield Road in Schaumburg from Meacham Road to Martingale Road
* Item 168 reconstructs the Rodeo Drive/Kings Road intersection in Bolingbrook
Quote from: ilpt4u on February 03, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: pianocello on February 03, 2019, 01:29:22 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on February 01, 2019, 08:27:24 PM
Item 43: Is IDOT expecting more traffic at the Civilian/Commercial Terminal of BLV/Scott AFB/Mid-America Airport?
The area at that interchange is not that built up. But if IDOT wants a light...
I think there's a decent amount of left-turning thru traffic coming from the north. Google Maps sends travelers down IL 4 as an outer bypass of St. Louis for traffic between I-55 and I-64, presumably because it only passes through one town and doesn't go very far west. Good way to get between Springfield (and points north/west) and Mt. Vernon (and points southeast).
I have used IL 4 between I-55 and I-64 plenty of times. The road handles the traffic. I also think the interchanges of IL 4 with I-55, I-70, and I-64 are ok without lights. Heck, Indiana style traffic circles would be better than sitting at a worthless red light, when no other traffic is around
3 gas stations, one a travel center that handles trucks.
1 new hotel and 2 apartment complexes, all on the north side of I-64.
There are quite a few coal mine workers who live south of Springfield who have been relocated to Ziegler and Prairie State. IL-4 is the most direct route.
List of projects for the June 14, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/3931ab2e-3903-43be-bf9e-a5b138e97cfd)
Highlights
* Item 2 reconstructions and signalizes the IL 131 intersection with Kenosha Road in Beach Park
* Item 3 realigns, reconstructs and signalizes the IL 176 intersections with Mt Tabor Road and Haligus Road in Crystal Lake
* Item 79 is for temporary detour signing for a rehab of the Murray Baker Bridge on I-74 in Peoria
* Item 88 installs LED luminaires at various locations along I-74 in Henry and Knox Counties
* Item 114 is for various lighting work in District 7 (Effingham), including LED retrofits
* Item 169 is for channelization and traffic signal improvements for the IL 59 intersection with Army Trail Road
* Item 214 reconstructs and signalizes the intersection of US 12/US 20/95th Street with Museum Drive in Oak Lawn
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 10, 2019, 11:44:24 PM
List of projects for the June 14, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/3931ab2e-3903-43be-bf9e-a5b138e97cfd)
Highlights
* Item 2 reconstructions and signalizes the IL 131 intersection with Kenosha Road in Beach Park
* Item 3 realigns, reconstructs and signalizes the IL 176 intersections with Mt Tabor Road and Haligus Road in Crystal Lake
* Item 79 is for temporary detour signing for a rehab of the Murray Baker Bridge on I-74 in Peoria
* Item 88 installs LED luminaires at various locations along I-74 in Henry and Knox Counties
* Item 114 is for various lighting work in District 7 (Effingham), including LED retrofits
* Item 169 is for channelization and traffic signal improvements for the IL 59 intersection with Army Trail Road
* Item 214 reconstructs and signalizes the intersection of US 12/US 20/95th Street with Museum Drive in Oak Lawn
I wonder what they mean by "Intermittent resurfacing projects on various state routes". It's a good thing more than likely, this looks like it will be a very aggressive resurfacing year. That will probably take the percentage of deteriorated roads from nearly 19% currently to 15%
Quote* Item 88 installs LED luminaires at various locations along I-74 in Henry and Knox Counties
Hopefully we will see more of these coming along in more counties and more routes.
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 10, 2019, 11:44:24 PM
List of projects for the June 14, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/3931ab2e-3903-43be-bf9e-a5b138e97cfd)
Highlights
* Item 214 reconstructs and signalizes the intersection of US 12/US 20/95th Street with Museum Drive in Oak Lawn
Signalized railroad crossing coming. But it's a desperately needed outlet from the Metra garage
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7197816,-87.7481014,197m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7197816,-87.7481014,197m/data=!3m1!1e3)
Apparently there is now a new letting for July 12. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/58c8e6d4-6939-4d03-8007-036debfd7471) Appears to be mostly resurfacing and other maintenance type projects.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 14, 2019, 11:18:39 PM
Apparently there is now a new letting for July 12. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/58c8e6d4-6939-4d03-8007-036debfd7471) Appears to be mostly resurfacing and other maintenance type projects.
They have a goal as of last year's MYP to bring the percentage of good condition pavement from its current 81% to 92%.That was with previous funding levels, it will probably be closer to 100% now with the impending infrastructure package that was passed.
List of projects for the August 2, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/87a8dc3b-e887-4cb4-ab93-5ef072848f82)
* Item 12 is for resurfacing ramps at the I-55 interchange with Reed Road (Exit 233), a small amount of resurfacing on mainline I-55 at MP 232.6, and "building two PCC crosssovers." IMHO if the crossovers are for more long term work with single lane traffic on I-55 and not of the maintenance turn around/law enforcement parking type, IL 47 needs to be widened between Morris and Dwight on a fast tracked schedule.
* Item 40 is a rebid of railroad bridge work over Business 55 for the Springfield relocation of the UP Railroad.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2019, 11:37:46 AM
IL 47 needs to be widened between Morris and Dwight on a fast tracked schedule.
I don't think this section is on IDOT's radar at all. The I-55 interchange is getting some work north of Dwight right now. When I was at IDOT, the feds wanted the Morris bridge and add-lanes project to be extended further south to IL 113, but IDOT was successful in convincing them to approve the logical terminus at Southmor Road instead. Nearly 20 years later, I am not aware of any effort to start a Phase I study from Southmor to Dwight. Current ADT is 10,300 north of IL 113, and 7,000 south of IL 113.
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 30, 2019, 06:52:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2019, 11:37:46 AM
IL 47 needs to be widened between Morris and Dwight on a fast tracked schedule.
I don't think this section is on IDOT's radar at all. The I-55 interchange is getting some work north of Dwight right now. When I was at IDOT, the feds wanted the Morris bridge and add-lanes project to be extended further south to IL 113, but IDOT was successful in convincing them to approve the logical terminus at Southmor Road instead. Nearly 20 years later, I am not aware of any effort to start a Phase I study from Southmor to Dwight. Current ADT is 10,300 north of IL 113, and 7,000 south of IL 113.
I saw somewhere that Grundy County was looking at funding a traffic study for the purpose of widening IL 47. Revive is right, this is a project that needs to be done yesterday. Counts may not justify it, but it is a major detour route if construction happens on 55 between 80 and Dwight.
7 to 10k on a rural 2-lane Highway is definitely in the planning realm of adding lanes, especially north of IL 113. But the primary hot spots on IL 47 are currently from Huntley to Woodstock (and through Woodstock) as well as between Yorkville and Sugar Grove. The project through Woodstock actually was named in the recent capital bill so it is funded for construction, and the section between Yorkville and Sugar Grove is apparently getting full funding according to recent articles in the local media. IL 47 "full interchange" rebuild at I-88 now under construction by ISTHA.
List of projects for the September 20, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/e6bdc7de-cace-4d9c-958c-1865b6f9d48a)
* Item 4 reconstructions the US 14 intersection with Hart Road west of Barrington
* Item 5 is for landscaping along IL 390
* Item 6 reconstructs the intersection of South Main Street and Crystal Lake Road in Crystal Lake
* Item 44 adds a third lane on I-57 from Mile Marker 66 to south of the Country Club Road Overpass through West Frankfort
* Item 63 reconstructs Weiland Road from Deerfield Road to Aptakisic Road in Lake County
* Item 64 widens Ridge Road "from south of McEvilly Road to Minooka Road in the village of Minooka."
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 16, 2019, 10:46:51 PM
List of projects for the September 20, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/e6bdc7de-cace-4d9c-958c-1865b6f9d48a)
* Item 64 widens Ridge Road "from south of McEvilly Road to Minooka Road in the village of Minooka."
About time they widen the road under that railroad bridge.
Slight tangent, but does IDOT post sign plan drawings somewhere? If so, can someone provide the link?
Quote from: inkyatari on August 19, 2019, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 16, 2019, 10:46:51 PM
List of projects for the September 20, 2019 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/e6bdc7de-cace-4d9c-958c-1865b6f9d48a)
* Item 64 widens Ridge Road "from south of McEvilly Road to Minooka Road in the village of Minooka."
About time they widen the road under that railroad bridge.
Slightly off topic, and the only reason I know Minooka is that I was pulled over for "driving from Colorado" one Christmas. I had the cruise set at 67 in a 65 and the local cop accused me of driving 72. He then proceeded to ask me a series of questions that culminated if I had any illegal drugs (no was the answer). He finally let me go, but it was a harrowing experience.
Quote from: machias on August 19, 2019, 11:08:41 AMSlight tangent, but does IDOT post sign plan drawings somewhere? If so, can someone provide the link?
Sign drawings (layouts, elevations, sign panel details, etc.) are generally part of the construction plans if the contract includes any signing work. If it does, then the bid item listing will mention sign panels.
Illinois DOT has traditionally used a work order system for pure signing contracts, but is transitioning toward putting sign drawings in construction plans. Here is an example:
http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/110918/067-46473/
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2019, 11:37:46 AM
List of projects for the August 2, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/87a8dc3b-e887-4cb4-ab93-5ef072848f82)
* Item 40 is a rebid of railroad bridge work over Business 55 for the Springfield relocation of the UP Railroad.
http://springfieldrailroad.com
Quote from: machias on August 19, 2019, 11:08:41 AM
Slight tangent, but does IDOT post sign plan drawings somewhere? If so, can someone provide the link?
Go to the link taking you to the list of projects for a particular letting, like this one:
List of projects for the August 2, 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/87a8dc3b-e887-4cb4-ab93-5ef072848f82)
To see plans for a project, click on the project number. Then look for a link toward the top left called "Plans and Special Provisions." That should take you to the plans.
List of Projects for the November 2019 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/b2d82b04-d4b8-4296-a0b1-3e2cdf09a10b)
Highlights
* Item 6 appears to be another Circle Interchange contract.
* Item 24 is for repairs to I-74's bridge over the Illinois River
* Item 34 improves the US 24 - US 67 intersection in Rushville and includes the addition of flashing yellow arrows.
* Item 66 reconstructs the IL 47 intersection with Bliss Road in Sugar Grove
* Item 94 is a rebid of the Ridge Road improvements in Minooka
67 and 24 is not that busy. The problem is not turns it's too many cards points so close to that intersection.
Quote from: 3467 on October 05, 2019, 11:31:40 AM
67 and 24 is not that busy. The problem is not turns it's too many cards points so close to that intersection.
Cards points?
Fire turned access to card.
Quote from: 3467 on October 05, 2019, 11:31:40 AM
67 and 24 is not that busy. The problem is not turns it's too many cards points so close to that intersection.
If you look at the plans, the widening is really just to put in turn lanes. All four approaches will have left turn lanes, and the northbound approach will have a right turn lane as well. The new geometrics hopefully allow for trucks to move through the junction more easily. Also, the signal plans indicate that all four approaches will have flashing yellow arrows; the northbound approach will also have 5-section towers for protected/permitted right turns. At no place will there be duplicate through lanes.
It does need better turning for trucks. My wife has an accident with one there. This will be nice. I am not that big a fan of the flashing yellow.
List of projects for the January 17, 2020 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/68d7f804-00a5-4e39-a8d0-12a1df42d84d)
* Item 2 is "intersection improvement, channelization, and traffic signal modernization project on Golf Rd from Overlook Dr to Harms Rd in Morton Grove and Cook County Forest Preserve.
* Item 6 is for intersection improvements at the IL 120/IL 131 intersection, with protected-only lefts for the NB and SB lefts.
* Item 18 is bridge deck work for IL 113 over I-55.
* Item 22 is bridge deck work for IL 62 over the Fox River.
* Item 29 appears to be pavement restoration on I-55 from about the Reed Road to south of the IL 53/Gardner interchanges. "The project will be staged using crossovers."
* Item 32 is bridge deck replacement for I-180 over the Illinois River, along with pavement work on the approaches.
* Item 39 is bridge repair work to the I-55 bridges over the Mazon River.
* Item 42 is resurfacing on I-39 near IL 116.
* Item 68 replaces the bridges on I-57 over Big Creek near Dongola.
* Item 71 has some retaining wall and pavement work on IL 127 south of Alto Pass, as well as " removal of existing runaround road".
* Item 82 adds a new right turn lane for EB US 12 at the intersection with IL 68.
* Item 127 signalizes the US 12/US 45 intersection with Forest Avenue in Des Plaines.
* Item 128 reconstructs part of Lake Street in Oak Park.
* Item 129 reconstructs part of 151st Street in Orland Park, with a roundabout for the West Avenue intersection.
* Item 132 realigns the St. Louis Street intersection with IL 53 in Elwood.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 06, 2019, 05:44:46 PM
* Item 128 reconstructs part of Lake Street in Oak Park.
"Harlan Avenue" :pan:
...and #69 thinks the Wolf Creek bridge on Route 148 is south of I-57. Nope.
List of projects for the March 6, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6b333ade-8661-404a-873b-b98392188317)
* Lots of resurfacings and general maintenance type projects
* Item 113: "Converting the IL 13 and Aurelia Drive intersection into a restricted crossing U-turn (RCUT) intersection"
* Item 171 reconstructs the York Road/Harger Road intersection in Oak Brook. The pay item listings suggest installation of a new traffic signal.
* Item 179: "Pavement reconstruction and traffic signal modernization on 75th Street from Lyman Avenue to Exner Road/Williams Street, located in the Village of Downers Grove and the City of Darien"
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 31, 2020, 11:08:25 PM
List of projects for the March 6, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6b333ade-8661-404a-873b-b98392188317)
* Item 171 reconstructs the York Road/Harger Road intersection in Oak Brook. The pay item listings suggest installation of a new traffic signal.
http://www.oak-brook.org/DocumentCenter/View/9247/Harger_York_Proposed_Project
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 31, 2020, 11:08:25 PM
List of projects for the March 6, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6b333ade-8661-404a-873b-b98392188317)
* Item 113: "Converting the IL 13 and Aurelia Drive intersection into a restricted crossing U-turn (RCUT) intersection"
I would assume that is similar to the "Michigan Left" that was installed slightly east of this location, at IL 13 and Norman Rd. Norman Rd and Main St/Old 13 used to cross IL 13 at one location - IDOT broke it up a couple years ago
Michigan Left-style signage for Norman Rd traffic turning onto IL 13: https://goo.gl/maps/eeTp1MZuGX5deXFV8
Quote from: ilpt4u on February 01, 2020, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 31, 2020, 11:08:25 PM
List of projects for the March 6, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6b333ade-8661-404a-873b-b98392188317)
* Item 113: "Converting the IL 13 and Aurelia Drive intersection into a restricted crossing U-turn (RCUT) intersection"
I would assume that is similar to the "Michigan Left" that was installed slightly east of this location, at IL 13 and Norman Rd. Norman Rd and Main St/Old 13 used to cross IL 13 at one location - IDOT broke it up a couple years ago
Michigan Left-style signage for Norman Rd traffic turning onto IL 13: https://goo.gl/maps/eeTp1MZuGX5deXFV8
This is what should be done to IL-59.
List of projects for the April 24, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/c5742f9d-7c8f-43cb-a4b4-2d710801855e)
Highlights
* Item 1 is ITS work and LED lighting near the Circle Interchange.
* Item 20: "Permanent protective shield installation on IL 53 bridges over IL 62, US 14 and RR, Palatine Rd, Kirchoff Rd, Anderson Dr, as well as Fulton Market St bridge over I-90/I-94."
* Item 22 includes pavement patching "on I-55 from S of I-80 to S of Weber Rd."
* Item 23 Appears to have replacement the light towers at the IL 31 interchange with US 14 with lower height LED lighting.
* Item 45: "Ramp metering along the entrance ramp from Fayette St to Eastbound I-74 in Peoria." First ramp meter outside Chicagoland in Illinois, and maybe making Peoria a candidate for the smallest city with a ramp meter?
* Item 91: "Installing retroreflective backplates on traffic signals along IL 149 and IL 13 from 20th Street in Murphysboro to US 45 in Harrisburg."
* Item 115: "Replacement of traffic signal mast arms at various locations in Peoria and Tazewell Counties."
* Item 127: "Traffic Signal modernization and Traffic Signal Retroreflective Backplate Installation at various locations in the City of Joliet."
* Item 167: On US 20 somewhere in McHenry County: "Pavement widening, pavement reconstruction, construction of a turnabout, curb and gutter, sidewalk, proposed drainage. replacement of a box culvert with three box culverts and two retaining walls."
* Item 169: "Construction and widening the Kennedy mainline Expwy NB from Roosevelt Rd. to Lake/Madison Sts,"
* Item 170: "Construction and wideing the Kennedy mainline Expwy SB from Lake/Madison St. to Roosevelt Rd"
* Item 173 has intersection improvements for the US 6 intersection with Gougar Road in Will County.
* Item 186 is more work on Longmeadow Parkway between IL 25 and the Fox River Bridge.
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* Item 22 includes pavement patching "on I-55 from S of I-80 to S of Weber Rd."
I know some people in the Illinois Notes thread will be very very pleased about this!
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 20, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
* Item 173 has intersection improvements for the US 6 intersection with Gougar Road in Will County.
This 4-way stop can back up for eons, especially the westbound approach. This intersection really does need a signal.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 20, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
* Item 169: "Construction and widening the Kennedy mainline Expwy NB from Roosevelt Rd. to Lake/Madison Sts,"
* Item 170: "Construction and wideing the Kennedy mainline Expwy SB from Lake/Madison St. to Roosevelt Rd"
Good to see that this is finally in the pipeline this year. Usually a PITA to drive through there, not only because of the congestion but the pavement isn't in the best condition either.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 24, 2020, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 20, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
* Item 22 includes pavement patching "on I-55 from S of I-80 to S of Weber Rd."
I know some people in the Illinois Notes thread will be very very pleased about this!
It's not really that bad through there, I'd say I-57 through Roseland, Pullman and Morgan Park is worse.
Gov said today all construction public and private can continue. I assume it's because it's mostly outside and they can distance.
The microsurface on 67 south of Roseville . It's between Roseville and Monmouth that needs it.
Also widening through Hubbard's cave ?
Quote from: Crash_It on March 29, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 24, 2020, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 20, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
* Item 22 includes pavement patching "on I-55 from S of I-80 to S of Weber Rd."
I know some people in the Illinois Notes thread will be very very pleased about this!
It's not really that bad through there...
Are you kidding? I used to drive that stretch every day. As soon as it was three-laned, the pavement started deteriorating almost immediately. I was just through that section yesterday, and it was deplorable.
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Quote from: Crash_It on March 29, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 24, 2020, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 20, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
* Item 22 includes pavement patching "on I-55 from S of I-80 to S of Weber Rd."
I know some people in the Illinois Notes thread will be very very pleased about this!
It's not really that bad through there...
Are you kidding? I used to drive that stretch every day. As soon as it was three-laned, the pavement started deteriorating almost immediately. I was just through that section yesterday, and it was deplorable.
I was through there on 3/7-3/8 and it didn't seem too bad then. I57 from 111th to Calsag and I90 from IL 43 to 90/94 is definitely worse but resurfacing is coming to that section this year
Quote from: 3467 on March 29, 2020, 05:26:52 PM
Gov said today all construction public and private can continue. I assume it's because it's mostly outside and they can distance.
That's good to hear. They should continue considering that it's easier for construction to continue in areas that might normallly have high traffic volumes. Provided they take necessary precautions, of course.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 30, 2020, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on March 29, 2020, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 29, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 24, 2020, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 20, 2020, 11:01:40 PM
* Item 22 includes pavement patching "on I-55 from S of I-80 to S of Weber Rd."
I know some people in the Illinois Notes thread will be very very pleased about this!
It's terrible, did you not see all the potholes in between the lanes?
It's not really that bad through there...
Are you kidding? I used to drive that stretch every day. As soon as it was three-laned, the pavement started deteriorating almost immediately. I was just through that section yesterday, and it was deplorable.
I was through there on 3/7-3/8 and it didn't seem too bad then. I57 from 111th to Calsag and I90 from IL 43 to 90/94 is definitely worse but resurfacing is coming to that section this year
It's terrible at the moment, potholes in the middle of the lanes. Hitting those at 65-75 mph are extremely cringe
EDIT: My comment for some reason never popped up on the initial post
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WAND) - The Illinois Commerce Commission's budget for Crossing Safety Improvements includes the 10th Street corridor's Springfield Rail Improvements Project.
The $33 million will go towards funding new underpasses along the project. Those projects are below:
Madison Street: $11 million
Jefferson Street: $11 million
North Grand Avenue: $11 million
The project along 10th street will allow the relocation of the Union Pacific Railroad (Amtrak) tracks from Third Street to 10th Street. It will also construct new underpasses at key locations in Springfield.
When it is finished it should reduce rail crossing accidents by 80 percent and reduce vehicle delays at crossings by 70 percent. It will also reduce noise.
"The City of Springfield and Sangamon County are grateful for the ICC's continued support," stated Springfield Mayor Jim Langfelder. "Our city along with communities across Illinois and this country are facing incredible challenges. This commitment allows us to continue our progress, not only moving trains from Third Street to 10th Street by 2025, but also securing the long awaited Quiet Zone along the Third Street corridor."
Based on Item 139 on April 2020 Letting, it looks like District 7 can be added to the flashing yellow arrow list, with a few being installed on US 36 in the Decatur area.
List of projects for the June 12, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/5c6890c6-76f6-4f8b-ad2d-74afddafc411). There's also a note on the site where previous lettings can be selected indicating some projects may be pulled or changed due to revenue issues.
Highlights
* Item 6 has the installation of 1,419 "snow-proof lens cover for red signal indications" in Lake County
* Item 35 adds two permanent crossovers to I-57 in Kankakee County
* Item 74: "Patching on IL 72 from US 67 to the Sangamon County line". The page with more details has I-72 instead of IL 72.
* Item 103 has intersection improvements on IL 13 in Jackson County
* Item 115: "Intersection re-alignment of Joliet Road at 55th Street in the village of McCook, in Lyons Township, in Cook County."
* Item 172 has "at the intersection of IL 70 at Springfield Ave" in Winnebago County with "flashing yellow left turn signals"
* Item 212 involves a short extension of Anderson Road in Kane County from Keslinger Road to Freedom Road
* Item 213 has pavement reconstruction on IL 62 in Schaumburg
Item 103 on IL 13 in Jackson County: "Intersection improvements, pavement widening, HMA resurfacing and a multi-use path on IL 13 from just east of Veterans Parkway to the Williamson County line."
I live in Carbondale and travel plenty on Rt 13. I have no idea what or where Veterans Parkway is.
Based on the description and the other end being the Williamson County Line, I wonder if this is extending the 6 lane widening from the current project's eastern end from Reed Station Rd all the way to the Williamson County Line
I haven't heard any news about Reed Station Rd being renamed Veterans Pkwy. Marion/Williamson County Airport was renamed Veterans Airport of Southern IL a few years back
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 09, 2020, 11:01:33 AM
Item 103 on IL 13 in Jackson County: "Intersection improvements, pavement widening, HMA resurfacing and a multi-use path on IL 13 from just east of Veterans Parkway to the Williamson County line."
I live in Carbondale and travel plenty on Rt 13. I have no idea what or where Veterans Parkway is.
Based on the description and the other end being the Williamson County Line, I wonder if this is extending the 6 lane widening from the current project's eastern end from Reed Station Rd all the way to the Williamson County Line
I haven't heard any news about Reed Station Rd being renamed Veterans Pkwy. Marion/Williamson County Airport was renamed Veterans Airport of Southern IL a few years back
It took me a while, but I finally found Veterans Parkway!
Here is a GSV shot (https://goo.gl/maps/qaAZMWCPcbVgiaDMA) of the street sign, and below is the ordinance establishing the name.
Quote from: Appendix F, Streets and Sidewalks
Ord. 2010-39
An ordinance naming the new roadway that connects Reed Station Parkway to Illinois Route 13, Veterans Parkway.
Quote from: kphoger on May 09, 2020, 03:15:11 PM
It took me a while, but I finally found Veterans Parkway!
Here is a GSV shot (https://goo.gl/maps/qaAZMWCPcbVgiaDMA) of the street sign, and below is the ordinance establishing the name.
Quote from: Appendix F, Streets and Sidewalks
Ord. 2010-39
An ordinance naming the new roadway that connects Reed Station Parkway to Illinois Route 13, Veterans Parkway.
Wow. I had no idea that was even a signed road. I thought it was just a RIRO ramp to/from the the Hotels and Golden Corral and IL 13 WB...One that I have used countless times
I immediately thought for sure I knew Veterans Boulevard, but it turns out I was actually thinking of Veterans Memorial Drive in Mount Vernon. As it happens, I've never once been on Veterans Boulevard, because I moved away from the area before it existed.
List of projects for the July 31, 2020 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/395ed95d-1bc6-4833-bd76-544d55874d51)
* Item 42: "Demolition of 2 houses and five buildings on 3 parcels and debris removal from 2 parcels along the proposed US 67 corridor" in Jersey County.
* Item 48 has "flashing left turn arrows" on IL 15 in Mount Vernon. Assuming these are flashing yellow arrows it may be the first installation in District 9.
* Item 75: "2.4 miles of grading, drainage and paving on new alignment on US 67 for the New Delhi Bypass."
^^ I believe Mount Vernon is D8, not D9, IIRC.
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2020, 11:03:44 PM
^^ I believe Mount Vernon is D8, not D9, IIRC.
Mt Vernon is in Jefferson County, which is the northernmost county in D9
If Mt Vernon is getting the FYA, it would be the first FYA setup I've seen down here in D9
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 27, 2020, 07:19:34 AM
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2020, 11:03:44 PM
^^ I believe Mount Vernon is D8, not D9, IIRC.
Mt Vernon is in Jefferson County, which is the northernmost county in D9
If Mt Vernon is getting the FYA, it would be the first FYA setup I've seen down here in D9
Sorry, I was thinking of Marion County.
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 27, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
I am not familiar with 52 right over there, is it asphalt or concrete in that section? Interesting that they would do only that on the shoulder and not resurface that, at least not typical of IDOT. That said, I would figure the higher priority over there would be to finish the 4 lane on 47 at least between Yorkville and Caton Farm Rd, and then eventually 4 lane all the way to I-88.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 27, 2020, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 27, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
I am not familiar with 52 right over there, is it asphalt or concrete in that section? Interesting that they would do only that on the shoulder and not resurface that, at least not typical of IDOT. That said, I would figure the higher priority over there would be to finish the 4 lane on 47 at least between Yorkville and Caton Farm Rd, and then eventually 4 lane all the way to I-88.
52's pavement is in good shape. But there have been pushes west by both Joliet and Shorewood. Joliet now comes out to Ridge and Caton Farm. But yes, priority is to 4 lane the remain bit of 47 between I-80 and I-88.
The US 52 shoulder widening looks more like a safety project than a prelude to a future widening, particularly with "HSIP" (Highway Safety Improvement Program) being in the federal project number.
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 27, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
I would say no. IDOT wouldn't spend money to build a shoulder just to then spend more money to rip it out in a widening project. That would be a misuse of funds.
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 27, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
Not likely (I am ex-IDOT District 3). This looks like a safety project. The same thing was done on Illinois 71 several years ago in 2 sections, from La Salle County to Yorkville. High traffic volumes, narrow shoulders, need more space for disabled vehicles and traffic enforcement.
Eventually when Joliet and/or Shorewood build out into Kendall County along US 52, it will likely be 4-laned. Joliet had a master plan (probably 15 years old at this point) that included several square miles in that vicinity being urbanized and roads upgraded, but most of it so far has been to the north along Ridge Road, around Theodore Street and Caton Farm Road.
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 29, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 27, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
Not likely (I am ex-IDOT District 3). This looks like a safety project. The same thing was done on Illinois 71 several years ago in 2 sections, from La Salle County to Yorkville. High traffic volumes, narrow shoulders, need more space for disabled vehicles and traffic enforcement.
Eventually when Joliet and/or Shorewood build out into Kendall County along US 52, it will likely be 4-laned. Joliet had a master plan (probably 15 years old at this point) that included several square miles in that vicinity being urbanized and roads upgraded, but most of it so far has been to the north along Ridge Road, around Theodore Street and Caton Farm Road.
Interestingly, the growth in that area has slowed a lot in the past decade. Honestly, it's probably not been the worst thing at least from an infrastructure standpoint, as things are somewhat starting to catch up to be able to meet current capacity needs.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 29, 2020, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 29, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 27, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
Interesting note from that July list...
- US 52 in Kendall County between Ridge Rd and Route 47 shoulder widening.
Could this be a possible a precursor of making 52 a 4 lane road or a resurface project?
Not likely (I am ex-IDOT District 3). This looks like a safety project. The same thing was done on Illinois 71 several years ago in 2 sections, from La Salle County to Yorkville. High traffic volumes, narrow shoulders, need more space for disabled vehicles and traffic enforcement.
Eventually when Joliet and/or Shorewood build out into Kendall County along US 52, it will likely be 4-laned. Joliet had a master plan (probably 15 years old at this point) that included several square miles in that vicinity being urbanized and roads upgraded, but most of it so far has been to the north along Ridge Road, around Theodore Street and Caton Farm Road.
Interestingly, the growth in that area has slowed a lot in the past decade. Honestly, it's probably not been the worst thing at least from an infrastructure standpoint, as things are somewhat starting to catch up to be able to meet current capacity needs.
It slowed from 2008 to 2012 or so. It's picked back up, just not as fast as before. And it's still growth, unlike DuPage and Cook Counties.
The plans are up for the IL 15 signal project in Mt. Vernon. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/073120/048-78731/PLANS/) It is indeed a FYA project. After this project (and whenever the Decatur FYA project gets acceptable bids - it's being rebid again on the July 2020 Letting) this leaves only District 1, 3, and 8 without FYA's on IDOT roadways.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2020, 10:31:20 PM
The plans are up for the IL 15 signal project in Mt. Vernon. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/073120/048-78731/PLANS/) It is indeed a FYA project. After this project (and whenever the Decatur FYA project gets acceptable bids - it's being rebid again on the July 2020 Letting) this leaves only District 1, 3, and 8 without FYA's on IDOT roadways.
I wouldn't hold my breath on D1 (or City of Chicago, for that matter) getting one anytime soon. It'd be interesting to see how well they take in D1.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 30, 2020, 08:03:04 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2020, 10:31:20 PM
The plans are up for the IL 15 signal project in Mt. Vernon. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/073120/048-78731/PLANS/) It is indeed a FYA project. After this project (and whenever the Decatur FYA project gets acceptable bids - it's being rebid again on the July 2020 Letting) this leaves only District 1, 3, and 8 without FYA's on IDOT roadways.
I wouldn't hold my breath on D1 (or City of Chicago, for that matter) getting one anytime soon. It'd be interesting to see how well they take in D1.
I'm pretty surprised to see them coming to D9. But not as surprised as when the first D1 IDOT project adds them
Missouri and Kentucky and Indiana are using the FYA right across the rivers in Southern IL, so maybe D9 figured it was time to start. Who knows. I've seen them in Evansville, Cape Girardeau, and Paducah
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 30, 2020, 08:03:04 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2020, 10:31:20 PM
The plans are up for the IL 15 signal project in Mt. Vernon. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/073120/048-78731/PLANS/) It is indeed a FYA project. After this project (and whenever the Decatur FYA project gets acceptable bids - it's being rebid again on the July 2020 Letting) this leaves only District 1, 3, and 8 without FYA's on IDOT roadways.
I wouldn't hold my breath on D1 (or City of Chicago, for that matter) getting one anytime soon. It'd be interesting to see how well they take in D1.
The only agency to have them in D1 is Kane County.
Quote from: Brandon on July 01, 2020, 09:30:40 PM
The only agency to have them in D1 is Kane County.
McHenry County has them in the plans for the Algonquin Road/Crystal Lake Road intersection as part of the big Randall Road widening project. McHenry County also references them for a future project on Walkup Road and Crystal Lake Road. (https://www.mchenrycountyil.gov/county-government/departments-j-z/transportation/future-construction/walkuproad)
Rumor has it Lake County may be looking at installing a few as well.
Back to US 52 it does look like a couple of miles of add lanes in the new plan posted in Illinois notes. It was the only new add lanes project I saw and looked adjacent to the shoulders project ?
FYA are great, we have them in Rockford and things flow so much better.
Quote from: 3467 on July 22, 2020, 11:55:53 AM
Back to US 52 it does look like a couple of miles of add lanes in the new plan posted in Illinois notes. It was the only new add lanes project I saw and looked adjacent to the shoulders project ?
Are you referring to the US 52 "River Road to Houbolt Road" project in Will County? It looks like a reconstruction and add lanes project in the west Joliet/Shorewood area of 2.5 miles. It would stop short of the Will/Kendall county line by nearly 2 miles. There is a resurfacing project on US 52 in Kendall, but no other major work in the program.
Yes that is it. There is a distance between them. I was really baffled by some projects I talked about in Southern Illinois Notes. A designed overlay for a 2 lane at 3 million a mile and a reconstruction on a 2 lane with no structures at 5. Miss classified?
Quote from: 3467 on July 24, 2020, 06:41:52 PM
Yes that is it. There is a distance between them. I was really baffled by some projects I talked about in Southern Illinois Notes. A designed overlay for a 2 lane at 3 million a mile and a reconstruction on a 2 lane with no structures at 5. Miss classified?
Either that, or a hell of a lot of patching or drainage work on the $3M/mile section.
List of projects for the September 18, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d07967db-8006-482f-ab0e-5b90d45b0277)
* Item 2 is intersection improvements to the three intersections where IL 83 and IL 72 cross
* Item 7 is for a new signal on IL 59 at Champion Road (between 119th and Hassert)
* Item 47 is intersection improvements for the Willow Road intersection with Pfingsten Road
* Item 55 is for a road diet on Walnut Street in Springfield between South Grand Avenue and Monroe Street
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 14, 2020, 10:41:58 PM
List of projects for the September 18, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d07967db-8006-482f-ab0e-5b90d45b0277)
* Item 2 is intersection improvements to the three intersections where IL 83 and IL 72 cross
* Item 7 is for a new signal on IL 59 at Champion Road (between 119th and Hassert)
* Item 47 is intersection improvements for the Willow Road intersection with Pfingsten Road
* Item 55 is for a road diet on Walnut Street in Springfield between South Grand Avenue and Monroe Street
The last thing we need, yet another non-synchronized signal on 59.
The stretch is 67 from Macomb to Industy. It's a 30 million project. It's no where near as bad as the stretch North of Monmouth that is getting 4 major curves and new shoulders . This might need a culvert or 2 . The stretch of 125 that is getting culvert a nd new shoulders near Pleasant Plains is only a million a mile.
Quote from: Brandon on August 14, 2020, 11:02:31 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 14, 2020, 10:41:58 PM
List of projects for the September 18, 2020 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d07967db-8006-482f-ab0e-5b90d45b0277)
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* Item 7 is for a new signal on IL 59 at Champion Road (between 119th and Hassert)
The last thing we need, yet another non-synchronized signal on 59.
If you look at sheets 64 and 65, it shows a
wired interconnect to both the 111th and 119th Street signals. So all three of those signals should be synced together as a result of this project! Might have been easy to miss because there's no wireless interconnect, which you might expect...I was looking for that tuning fork symbol everywhere.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 17, 2020, 12:13:07 PM
If you look at sheets 64 and 65, it shows a wired interconnect to both the 111th and 119th Street signals. So all three of those signals should be synced together as a result of this project! Might have been easy to miss because there's no wireless interconnect, which you might expect...I was looking for that tuning fork symbol everywhere.
Is this something that happens often? I don't do any kind of work involving signals or their hardware, but I would have thought a wireless interconnect would be cheaper and easier than running a mile of physical wire to connect the signals.
IDOT D9 recently pulled fiber optic down IL 13 this summer in Carbondale to connect the stoplights together. I haven't really noticed if the signal sync has improved
Quote from: pianocello on August 17, 2020, 09:59:21 PM
Is this something that happens often? I don't do any kind of work involving signals or their hardware, but I would have thought a wireless interconnect would be cheaper and easier than running a mile of physical wire to connect the signals.
Of course wireless technology is available and has been tried on traffic signal interconnections. It is currently considered to be far less reliable than a hardwire connection due to signal dropouts, weather interference, and other anomalies. Some of the overhead message boards are equipped to be programmed via cell phone technology, usually a less critical application.
Quote from: Rick Powell on August 18, 2020, 12:30:20 AM
Quote from: pianocello on August 17, 2020, 09:59:21 PM
Is this something that happens often? I don't do any kind of work involving signals or their hardware, but I would have thought a wireless interconnect would be cheaper and easier than running a mile of physical wire to connect the signals.
Of course wireless technology is available and has been tried on traffic signal interconnections. It is currently considered to be far less reliable than a hardwire connection due to signal dropouts, weather interference, and other anomalies. Some of the overhead message boards are equipped to be programmed via cell phone technology, usually a less critical application.
5G may improve the reliability of such technologies. There are many locations IDOT (and CDOT) would be well suited to implement this. Nothing more frustrating while driving than having a light turn green only to have the next immediately turn red as you start to go. Waste of time and gas there.
Item 13 on the September 2020 Letting is a building demolition contract around the City of McHenry - two on the east bank of the Fox River, one next to IL 31. The two on the east bank are definitely in line with the ROW preserved for the west branch of the IL 53 extension. The plan cover includes IL 53 in the title. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/091820/013-62M66/PLANS/PL-62M66-013.pdf)
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 02, 2020, 10:33:47 PM
Item 13 on the September 2020 Letting is a building demolition contract around the City of McHenry - two on the east bank of the Fox River, one next to IL 31. The two on the east bank are definitely in line with the ROW preserved for the west branch of the IL 53 extension. The plan cover includes IL 53 in the title. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/091820/013-62M66/PLANS/PL-62M66-013.pdf)
I've said this before, but even with the IL 53 extension effectively dead (thanks to Long Grove and Hawthorn Woods), why not still do the IL 120 improvements that connect to I-94 and maybe have a chance of one day extending that to US 12 freeway in WI? Interesting that they are still acquiring property for this.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 02, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 02, 2020, 10:33:47 PM
Item 13 on the September 2020 Letting is a building demolition contract around the City of McHenry - two on the east bank of the Fox River, one next to IL 31. The two on the east bank are definitely in line with the ROW preserved for the west branch of the IL 53 extension. The plan cover includes IL 53 in the title. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/091820/013-62M66/PLANS/PL-62M66-013.pdf)
I've said this before, but even with the IL 53 extension effectively dead (thanks to Long Grove and Hawthorn Woods), why not still do the IL 120 improvements that connect to I-94 and maybe have a chance of one day extending that to US 12 freeway in WI? Interesting that they are still acquiring property for this.
this is lineing to the us-12 up there. Now maybe build the Richmond bypass as toll?
AS for us-12 they can upgrade it / have an upper toll level in some areas to bypass Long Grove and Hawthorn Woods
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 02, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 02, 2020, 10:33:47 PM
Item 13 on the September 2020 Letting is a building demolition contract around the City of McHenry - two on the east bank of the Fox River, one next to IL 31. The two on the east bank are definitely in line with the ROW preserved for the west branch of the IL 53 extension. The plan cover includes IL 53 in the title. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/091820/013-62M66/PLANS/PL-62M66-013.pdf)
I've said this before, but even with the IL 53 extension effectively dead (thanks to Long Grove and Hawthorn Woods), why not still do the IL 120 improvements that connect to I-94 and maybe have a chance of one day extending that to US 12 freeway in WI? Interesting that they are still acquiring property for this.
They can't. Unlike the IL-53 extension from Lake Cook Road to IL-120, the FAP 420 ROW (west of US 12) goes through sensitive conservation areas in Volo Bog and Glacial Park, and it can't be routed around at this point.
Seriously, why are they even bothering with this? At a time when revenue is down, they should be putting their eggs elsewhere, not towards a highway that will never be built.
Quote from: I-39 on September 03, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 02, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 02, 2020, 10:33:47 PM
Item 13 on the September 2020 Letting is a building demolition contract around the City of McHenry - two on the east bank of the Fox River, one next to IL 31. The two on the east bank are definitely in line with the ROW preserved for the west branch of the IL 53 extension. The plan cover includes IL 53 in the title. (http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/091820/013-62M66/PLANS/PL-62M66-013.pdf)
I've said this before, but even with the IL 53 extension effectively dead (thanks to Long Grove and Hawthorn Woods), why not still do the IL 120 improvements that connect to I-94 and maybe have a chance of one day extending that to US 12 freeway in WI? Interesting that they are still acquiring property for this.
They can't. Unlike the IL-53 extension from Lake Cook Road to IL-120, the FAP 420 ROW (west of US 12) goes through sensitive conservation areas in Volo Bog and Glacial Park, and it can't be routed around at this point.
Seriously, why are they even bothering with this? At a time when revenue is down, they should be putting their eggs elsewhere, not towards a highway that will never be built.
Like I said, interesting that they are acquiring land for this... I honestly thought it was as good as dead too. That said, it would still make sense to build even a part of it at least. That said, atr this point, it probably makes more sense to spend the money to widen the existing roadways... such as current U.S. 12 in Lake/McHenry Counties (at least 3 lanes each way up through Fox Lake and then at least 2 lanes each way to the WI border).
Lake County Transportation has the Central Lake Project on its site. It's a 10year old project essentially a Grayslake bypass paid for with tolls. It would be an electronically tolled arterial. . The only state involvement would be approving tolls. It may need their ROW though. It ends at 12 could McHenry be working with them on an extension? With IDOT helping with ROW?
Quote from: 3467 on September 05, 2020, 03:36:52 PM
Lake County Transportation has the Central Lake Project on its site. It's a 10year old project essentially a Grayslake bypass paid for with tolls. It would be an electronically tolled arterial. . The only state involvement would be approving tolls. It may need their ROW though. It ends at 12 could McHenry be working with them on an extension? With IDOT helping with ROW?
A "tolled arterial"... wow. That's ridiculous. Imagine paying tolls for the "privilege" to drive US-12 between the Wisconsin border and Lake-Cook Rd.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 05, 2020, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: 3467 on September 05, 2020, 03:36:52 PM
Lake County Transportation has the Central Lake Project on its site. It's a 10year old project essentially a Grayslake bypass paid for with tolls. It would be an electronically tolled arterial. . The only state involvement would be approving tolls. It may need their ROW though. It ends at 12 could McHenry be working with them on an extension? With IDOT helping with ROW?
A "tolled arterial"... wow. That's ridiculous. Imagine paying tolls for the "privilege" to drive US-12 between the Wisconsin border and Lake-Cook Rd.
too easy to cut though parking lots / rat run side streets to get out of tolls on US-12 now maybe if they do an upper deck / lower level in parts.
Their plan is to allow access at signalized intersections and RIROs.
Quote from: 3467 on September 06, 2020, 11:53:30 AM
Their plan is to allow access at signalized intersections and RIROs.
tolls what about cutting the signalized intersections and putting in under / overpasses?
I have no idea. It looks like they may have used Longmeadow Parkway as a model?
Quote from: 3467 on September 06, 2020, 04:10:51 PM
I have no idea. It looks like they may have used Longmeadow Parkway as a model?
Longmeadow Parkway just has an toll for the bridge part
List of projects for the November 6, 2020 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/c93b9be8-96ce-4da4-8c6a-e5689a63aaea)
Highlights
* Item 2: Work on the US 14 bridge over the Fox River
* Item 37: Bridge deck work on the Quincy Memorial Bridge (US 24 EB over the Mississippi)
* Item 42: Just patching, but interesting how the interchange between I-72 and I-172 is called "the Trumpet Interchange".
* Item 63: Deleted, but would have involved a new traffic signal at "Des Plaines River Road and Robinson" (this intersection? (https://goo.gl/maps/Ar3DtDZCeic5TAdi7))
* Item 64: Bridge and pavement replacement on EB I-80 in Joliet, seems to be near Richards Street.
* Item 65: "Traffic Signal modernization and construction of a fiber optic communication system on Black Road from US 30 to IL 59 in Joliet"
* Item 72: "New bridge structure carrying the future north bound traffic IL 59 over 1-55 at the interchange of IL 59 and 1-55 located in the City of Joliet, Village of Shorewood, and Troy Township."
* Item 81: Bridge deck replacement and other pavement work for I-280 over the Mississippi to east of IL 92
* Item 94: Removal of the Chestnut Street bridge over IL 127 in Alto Pass.
* Item 101: New traffic signal for IL 58 at Shady Oaks Drive in Elgin (this intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/17fhCEHjrD16sHJL8)?)
* Item 106: "Intersection Widening, milling and resurfacing, and the upgrade of existing signalized intersection on 31st Street from Meyers Road to York Road in Oak Brook"
* Item 109: "Traffic signal replacement and installation of adaptive signal control with flashing yellow arrows on Butterfield Road from IL 137 to Allanson Road". Would be the first flashing yellow arrow installations for Lake County.
* Item 111: Extension of Eladmain Road near Yorkville/Plano with a new Fox River bridge.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
* Item 72: "New bridge structure carrying the future north bound traffic IL 59 over 1-55 at the interchange of IL 59 and 1-55 located in the City of Joliet, Village of Shorewood, and Troy Township."
Again? Wasn't it only 10-15 years ago that they shifted the NB 55-NB 59 ramp south to its present location?
Quote from: pianocello on October 03, 2020, 08:17:44 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
* Item 72: "New bridge structure carrying the future north bound traffic IL 59 over 1-55 at the interchange of IL 59 and 1-55 located in the City of Joliet, Village of Shorewood, and Troy Township."
Again? Wasn't it only 10-15 years ago that they shifted the NB 55-NB 59 ramp south to its present location?
There is a project to redo the interchange and extend Seil Road eastward to access some vacant land in Joliet for development, and I suspect this is part of the plan.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
* Item 109: "Traffic signal replacement and installation of adaptive signal control with flashing yellow arrows on Butterfield Road from IL 137 to Allanson Road". Would be the first flashing yellow arrow installations for Lake County.
Wow, it's about time...
Quote from: Rick Powell on October 03, 2020, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: pianocello on October 03, 2020, 08:17:44 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
* Item 72: "New bridge structure carrying the future north bound traffic IL 59 over 1-55 at the interchange of IL 59 and 1-55 located in the City of Joliet, Village of Shorewood, and Troy Township."
Again? Wasn't it only 10-15 years ago that they shifted the NB 55-NB 59 ramp south to its present location?
There is a project to redo the interchange and extend Seil Road eastward to access some vacant land in Joliet for development, and I suspect this is part of the plan.
Yes, it's been in the planning stages for over 12 years.
Looking over the plans for
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 04, 2020, 01:06:39 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
* Item 109: "Traffic signal replacement and installation of adaptive signal control with flashing yellow arrows on Butterfield Road from IL 137 to Allanson Road". Would be the first flashing yellow arrow installations for Lake County.
Wow, it's about time...
Two interesting things in the plans for this one:
* Pages 17 and 18 have flashing yellow arrow heads being used for the dual left from NB Butterfield Road to Allanson Road - wonder if it is for time of day operation?
* Pages 37 and 38 have flashing yellow arrows being installed at the Butterfield Road intersection with IL 176.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 19, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
Looking over the plans for Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 04, 2020, 01:06:39 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 02, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
* Item 109: "Traffic signal replacement and installation of adaptive signal control with flashing yellow arrows on Butterfield Road from IL 137 to Allanson Road". Would be the first flashing yellow arrow installations for Lake County.
Wow, it's about time...
Two interesting things in the plans for this one:
* Pages 17 and 18 have flashing yellow arrow heads being used for the dual left from NB Butterfield Road to Allanson Road - wonder if it is for time of day operation?
* Pages 37 and 38 have flashing yellow arrows being installed at the Butterfield Road intersection with IL 176.
Dual FYA permissive lefts? In Illinois? That would be
very surprising and interesting.
List of projects for the January 15, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/4ac164f7-a608-41d3-82b3-16beac5131ee)
Not seeing any real standout projects so far - mostly resurfacings and other maintenance type projects.
There is a the first stage of two big projects ..well big for this era.
The tree removal in Peoria Fulton and Warren. That means the reconstruction of 67 is coming and a bridge on 24 as part of that 4 lane ....The replacement for 336...is close.
IDOT wants trees down before spring when animals start nesting especially endangered bats.
^ If that is Item 34, based on the description, only the work on US 24 looks like could be advance work for the four lane project.
Quote from: Item 34 DescriptionThis project consists of tree removal and other collateral work located along US 24 at Copperas Creek near Banner in Fulton County, along US 67 north of Monmouth in Warren County, and along IL 40 between Northmoor Road and Mt. Hawley in Peoria County.
Interesting that there is a pay item listed for detour signing.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 04, 2020, 11:18:26 PM
List of projects for the January 15, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/4ac164f7-a608-41d3-82b3-16beac5131ee)
Not seeing any real standout projects so far - mostly resurfacings and other maintenance type projects.
Item 75 is a resurfacing on I-55 in Will County near Arsenal Road. That section of I-55 just can't catch a break from being subject to constant road construction. Also-- what the heck is a SMART overlay? My potentially dubious name detectors are going off.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 07, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 04, 2020, 11:18:26 PM
List of projects for the January 15, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/4ac164f7-a608-41d3-82b3-16beac5131ee)
Not seeing any real standout projects so far - mostly resurfacings and other maintenance type projects.
Item 75 is a resurfacing on I-55 in Will County near Arsenal Road. That section of I-55 just can't catch a break from being subject to constant road construction. Also-- what the heck is a SMART overlay? My potentially dubious name detectors are going off.
52-5.02(k) Surface Maintenance at the Right Time Overlay
The combination of cold milling and the application of a Surface Maintenance at the Right Time
(SMART) overlay is a viable option for improving rideability, surface friction, profile, crown, and
cross slope. The following provides additional information and considerations for use of this
treatment:
1. Treatment Description. SMART overlays may be continuous or intermittent and consist
of placing a 1.50 in. (38 mm) (1.75 in. (44 mm) for F-mix) single-pass overlay on a
previously resurfaced pavement that is not in need of significant repair and is in good
condition. If the SMART overlay is applied at the correct time, it can delay serious
distresses, extend the life of the pavement, and decrease the overall cost.
Illinois PAVEMENT PRESERVATION March 2017
52-5.13 HARD COPIES UNCONTROLLED
2. Pavement Conditions Addressed. SMART Overlay can be used to address low-severity
cracking, raveling/weathering, friction loss, roughness, low-severity flushing/bleeding,
and low-severity block cracking. Thin overlays may also be used to correct rutting
(requires use of separate rut-fill application).
3. Application Limitations. The selection criteria for SMART projects are presented in
Figure 52-5.B. SMART overlays are not allowed on Interstate highways or bare PCC
pavements. Four-lane routes, with the exception of Interstates, may be considered if the
two-lane truck and patching directional criteria presented in Figure 52-5.B are met. Also,
consider ramps and unmarked narrow pavements that do not have excessive rutting or
shoving for SMART projects. Consider local SMART project participation on a case-bycase basis. For rural facilities, ensure that the section is at least 1.0 mile (1.6 km) in
length. If deviations from these criteria are necessary, contact BDE for approval.
4. Pavement Distress. SMART overlays are also not recommended where there are
structural failures (e.g., fatigue cracking), excessive rutting, extensive pavement
deterioration, or if there is high-severity thermal cracking. Pavements with these
significant distresses (e.g., CRS distress levels L3, L4, O4, T2, T3, T4) are not eligible.
The surface should be uniform to ensure uniform compaction.
5. Construction Considerations. Surface must be clean. A tack coat prior to overlay
placement will help improve the bond to the existing surface. SMART overlays dissipate
heat rapidly and, therefore, depend upon minimum specified mix placement
temperatures and timely compaction.
6. Traffic Considerations. Performance is not affected by different ADT or percent trucks.
7. Special Considerations. Repair localized distressed areas prior to the placement of the
overlay. If milling is not used in conjunction with the SMART overlay, give special
consideration to bump grinding prior to treatment placement.
8. Curb Ramps. Refer to Section 58-1.09(a) regarding curb ramps.
9. Existing Public Educational Facility Entrances. If surface deficiencies in such entrances
exist, repairs/resurfacing should be extended to the right-of-way limits and be consistent
with other SMART criteria.
10. Performance Period. 7 to 10 years.
11. Relative Cost ($ to $$$$). $$$
I had to look it up also :hmmm:
https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Manuals-Split/Design-And-Environment/BDE-Manual/Chapter%2052%20Pavement%20Preservation.pdf (https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Manuals-Split/Design-And-Environment/BDE-Manual/Chapter%2052%20Pavement%20Preservation.pdf)
List of projects for the March 5, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/35bb1ba9-8b75-42d4-8893-9a99cecd5594)
* Item 10 is a new roundabout for the US 6 intersection with IL 178 north of Utica
* Item 15 is 4.5 miles of widening and resurfacing on US 67 in Warren County
* Item 46 (already deleted) would have been RCUT intersections for IL 13/IL 127 the Ava Road and Grange Hill Road intersections.
* Item 82 is bridge deck repairs for I-55 around the IL 54 interchange
* Item 147 appears to be for a 'Metra access road' in Barrington, possibly with a new traffic signal
Wow, the roundabout plan set is 137 sheets. This location has never worked well, especially with the wildly fluctuating traffic volumes from being near Starved Rock state park, where holiday and event traffic can be 10x the normal load. First it was a 4 way stop, currently a temporary signal controlled intersection with those annoying left arrows where there is no LT lane. The roundabout should show substantial improvement in traffic flow.
At one time, a conventional signalized intersection with turn lanes was proposed here, based on the needs of the "Utica Logistics Park" that was to come in the northeast corner of the intersection with big-box warehouses and the like. A water tower was put in, but the development (other than a new Dollar General) never materialized.
I wonder why they cancelled the intersections . Are they going to 4 lane that section?
67 in Warren is really needed. I look forward to the details.
Quote from: 3467 on January 30, 2021, 08:06:26 PM
I wonder why they cancelled the intersections . Are they going to 4 lane that section?
67 in Warren is really needed. I look forward to the details.
Is the section of US 67 to be widened the 2-lane alignment north of US 34 in Monmouth?
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on January 30, 2021, 08:24:05 PM
Quote from: 3467 on January 30, 2021, 08:06:26 PM
I wonder why they cancelled the intersections . Are they going to 4 lane that section?
67 in Warren is really needed. I look forward to the details.
Is the section of US 67 to be widened the 2-lane alignment north of US 34 in Monmouth?
No, north of Monmouth has been long dead to my knowledge.
Yes it is widening the 2 lane North of Monmouth. Not 4 lane but there is some. New 2 lane alignment. The road is in terrible shape. It's needed this for decades.
The freeway pretty much died about the time Illinois 1 did. The FHWA said it was too close to 74 and suggested the corridor that now exists.
The EPA told IDOT that Indiana was connecting the cities in Indiana that the freeway was to serve.
List of projects for the April 23, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a55d06f0-6756-46cc-9c21-9eea4b021831)
* Item 1 is intersection reconstruction for IL 129 at Coal City Road.
* Item 2 installs a new traffic signal on IL 173 at North Lake Avenue in Antioch
* Item 5 is signal modernization for IL 31 at Fabyan Parkway, Orchard Road at Acutt Road, and Orchard Road at Rochester Drive
* Item 12 is resurfacing and traffic signal work on Grand Avenue in DuPage County from US 20 to the Cook County Line
* Item 36 is traffic signal mast arm replacement for River Street at Station Street in Kankakee
* Item 56 involves traffic signal upgrades on IL 29 in Rochester
* Item 76 would have been RCUTs for IL 13/IL 127 at Ava Road and IL 13/IL 127 and Grange Hall Road (deleted again)
* Item 102 would have involved two new grade separations for the UP Railroad at Iron Bridge Road and Woodside Road south of Springfield (deleted)
* Item 111 is intersection reconstruction for Des Plaines River Road at Robinson in Franklin Park
* Item 112 is intersection improvements for IL 58 at US 41 and Niles Center Road
* Item 118 appears to be traffic signal work and pavement improvements on IL 2 in Dixon north of the Rock River
* Item 127 is a rebid of the bridge work on I-55 in the northern half of the Springfield area from the Sangamon River to the railroad bridge south of IL 54.
* Item 134 is intersection reconstruction for US 45 at IL 173
* Item 135 is roadway reconstruction for New York Street in Aurora from Farnsworth to Welsh Drive
* Item 137 is bridge reconstruction on I-57 in Cook and Will Counties
* Item 176 is removal of the existing railroad bridges for the NS Railroad over South Grand Avenue and Cook Street in Springfield and replacement with two new structures. Thinking this one is for the eventual relocation of the UP line.
* Item 183 is a re-advertisement for the roundabout for IL 178 at US 6
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 19, 2021, 10:39:03 PM
List of projects for the April 23, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a55d06f0-6756-46cc-9c21-9eea4b021831)
* Item 1 is intersection reconstruction for IL 129 at Coal City Road.
* Item 2 installs a new traffic signal on IL 173 at North Lake Avenue in Antioch
* Item 3 is signal modernization for IL 31 at Fabyan Parkway, Orchard Road at Acutt Road, and Orchard Road at Rochester Drive
* Item 12 is resurfacing and traffic signal work on Grand Avenue in DuPage County from US 20 to the Cook County Line
* Item 36 is traffic signal mast arm replacement for River Street at Station Street in Kankakee
* Item 56 involves traffic signal upgrades on IL 29 in Rochester
* Item 76 would have been RCUTs for IL 13/IL 127 at Ava Road and IL 13/IL 127 and Grange Hall Road (deleted again)
* Item 102 would have involved two new grade separations for the UP Railroad at Iron Bridge Road and Woodside Road south of Springfield (deleted)
* Item 111 is intersection reconstruction for Des Plaines River Road at Robinson in Franklin Park
* Item 112 is intersection improvements for IL 58 at US 41 and Niles Center Road
* Item 118 appears to be traffic signal work and pavement improvements on IL 2 in Dixon north of the Rock River
* Item 127 is a rebid of the bridge work on I-55 in the northern half of the Springfield area from the Sangamon River to the railroad bridge south of IL 54.
* Item 134 is intersection reconstruction for US 45 at IL 173
* Item 135 is roadway reconstruction for New York Street in Aurora from Farnsworth to Welsh Drive
* Item 137 is bridge reconstruction on I-57 in Cook and Will Counties
* Item 176 is removal of the existing railroad bridges for the NS Railroad over South Grand Avenue and Cook Street in Springfield and replacement with two new structures. Thinking this one is for the eventual relocation of the UP line.
* Item 183 is a re-advertisement for the roundabout for IL 178 at US 6
A couple that jumped out to me that you didn't mention.
-"Resurfacing of Eola Rd from US 34 Ogden Ave to Oakhurst Dr (near McCoy Dr) in Aurora."
Needed but not looking forward to the backups on Eola.
-"Resurfacing, curb and gutter, sidewalk replacement, ornamental lighting, brick paver sidewalk, landscaping and pavement markings on IL 171 from 11th Street to 10th Street and on IL 7 from IL 171 to Hamilton Street in Lockport."
Pretty sure IDOT just did some reconstruction on 171 there last year or the year before.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 19, 2021, 10:39:03 PM
List of projects for the April 23, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a55d06f0-6756-46cc-9c21-9eea4b021831)
* Item 5* is signal modernization for IL 31 at Fabyan Parkway, Orchard Road at Acutt Road, and Orchard Road at Rochester Drive
The signals at Orchard and Aucutt and Orchard and Rochester are both heavily overbuilt. What could they be possibly adding? An interconnect?
(*The Kane County signals thing is item 5 now, not item 3.)
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 19, 2021, 10:39:03 PM
List of projects for the April 23, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a55d06f0-6756-46cc-9c21-9eea4b021831)
* Item 12 is resurfacing and traffic signal work on Grand Avenue in DuPage County from US 20 to the Cook County Line
* Item 111 is intersection reconstruction for Des Plaines River Road at Robinson in Franklin Park
* Item 112 is intersection improvements for IL 58 at US 41 and Niles Center Road
Item 12: Wonder if that's alongside the I-294 project
Item 111: I can agree, this intersection was due for this
Item 112: Big time, that intersection can be a bit hairy on occasion
Quote from: ET21 on March 23, 2021, 03:40:08 PM
Item 12: Wonder if that's alongside the I-294 project
Not sure if it was part of plan to time it with the I-294 work or whether it's just the way things played out.
Page 83 has a note about the mast arm lengths accommodating future flashing yellow arrow operations.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 23, 2021, 09:05:27 AM
The signals at Orchard and Aucutt and Orchard and Rochester are both heavily overbuilt. What could they be possibly adding? An interconnect?
The plans have the Orchard Road signals being converted to flashing yellow arrow operation, with a "dynamic operation" for the WB Aucutt to SB Orchard left turn that use a flashing yellow arrow when the ped phase is active and a green arrow otherwise.
Does anyone know what the status is on the Bliss Road and Bunker Road realignments in Kane County? I thought those might go to bid this year.
I found the shoulder reconstruction on Illinois 1 interesting. They are narrowing travel lanes and widening paved shoulders from 3 to 4 feet.
Update on last letting. The trees are down on US 67 in Warren . The design is nice the 35 mph curve complete reconstruction. Travel lanes will be 12 feet. Some stretches are 11 and the shoulders will go from nothing to 5 feet paved with 3 feet of gravel.
Quote from: 3467 on March 31, 2021, 01:35:27 PM
I found the shoulder reconstruction on Illinois 1 interesting. They are narrowing travel lanes and widening paved shoulders from 3 to 4 feet.
This got my curiosity, as rural sections are usually not narrowed if they are truck routes. To me it looks like the lanes are staying at 11.5' and the shoulders are being widened from 4' to 4.5', with part of the shoulder being improved from a thin gravel wedge to an 8" depth hot-mix asphalt shoulder. The existing pavement is 12.5' each direction with the stripe set in 1 foot from the edge, creating essentially an 11.5' lane and a 1' paved shoulder in each direction. The proposed pavement shows 12' each direction (including the stripe set at 11.5') being undisturbed, and then cutting into the outer part of the paved shoulder and adding 4 feet to what looks like a half foot of existing paved shoulder outside the stripe.
Also isn't 67 more typical adding the shoulder during repaving or reconstruction?
Not complaining both initial freeway rejects need work. The Warren County segment of 67 is just an embarrassing stretch of road. Irving be after this.
They got a bid under estimate too.
125 from 97 to Pleasant Plains is really nice. 8 to 10 foot shoulders. Higher volume and a secondary not primary.
Quote from: I-39 on March 30, 2021, 10:24:24 PM
Does anyone know what the status is on the Bliss Road and Bunker Road realignments in Kane County? I thought those might go to bid this year.
I did see something on this not too long ago. According to the Kane County DOT website, Bunker Rd is going to go under the IP tracks before swinging over to La Fox Rd and be the thru road.
http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Shared%20Documents/BunkerRoadExtension/BunkerRdExtensionLocationMap.pdf
I have not seen a timetable on it though.
Quote from: hobsini2 on April 04, 2021, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 30, 2021, 10:24:24 PM
Does anyone know what the status is on the Bliss Road and Bunker Road realignments in Kane County? I thought those might go to bid this year.
I did see something on this not too long ago. According to the Kane County DOT website, Bunker Rd is going to go under the IP tracks before swinging over to La Fox Rd and be the thru road.
http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Shared%20Documents/BunkerRoadExtension/BunkerRdExtensionLocationMap.pdf
I have not seen a timetable on it though.
I just wonder how much longer since they've been talking about these projects for almost two decades.
List of projects for the June 11, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/aaf62b88-7130-4111-a205-76a44d8fa0c9)
Some of the more noteworthy projects:
* Item 2: Guardrail work and retroreflective signal backplates (going off the pay item listing) on US 20 from IL 47 to Ontarioville Road (just west of IL 390).
* Item 54 has a typo of "I-57" for what should be IL 57
* Item 89: Wireless interconnect and traffic signal work on 143rd in Orland Park from US 45 to Wolf Road.
* Item 106 (already deleted) would have replaced the Waldron Road/Maple Street overpass over I-57 in Kankakee (https://goo.gl/maps/CsLYjvWi8vUtLjxa6) along with a few other improvements.
* Item 154 involves a new traffic signal and intersection improvements with realignment for IL 176 at Nish Road. (https://goo.gl/maps/LfqgaW7rxsoyyYXV9)
* Item 155 has deck replacement for I-55 at IL 53 and superstructure replacement for I-55 at Joliet Road in Bolingbrook.
* Item 158 has expansion joint replacement and other bridge work for I-55 over the Kankakee River (doesn't seem like it has been that long since those bridges were last worked on).
* Item 187 constructs Restricted Crossing U-Turn intersections for IL 13/IL 127 at Ava Road and for IL 13/IL 127 at Grange Hall Road.
* Item 188 constructs a Restricted Crossing U-Turn intersection for IL 13 at Carrier Mills Road (https://goo.gl/maps/o3XeEgzR51GAKmVc9) west of Harrisburg
* Item 206: Bridge replacement for I-55 at Lemont Road
* Item 217 reconstructs the Laraway Road intersection with Cedar Road in New Lenox
* Item 219 is reconstruction of Business 20 from Day Avenue to Independence Avenue in Rockford
* Item 221 would appear to be a contract for redoing the I-57/I-74 interchange
* Item 227: "0.8 miles of Bureau of Research test pavement alongside US 50 from Crackerneck Road to Russland Road" near Aviston in Clinton County.
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 07, 2021, 11:43:55 PM
List of projects for the June 11, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/aaf62b88-7130-4111-a205-76a44d8fa0c9)
Some of the more noteworthy projects:
* Item 2: Guardrail work and retroreflective signal backplates (going off the pay item listing) on US 20 from IL 47 to Ontarioville Road (just west of IL 390).
* Item 54 has a typo of "I-57" for what should be IL 57
* Item 89: Wireless interconnect and traffic signal work on 143rd in Orland Park from US 45 to Wolf Road.
* Item 106 (already deleted) would have replaced the Waldron Road/Maple Street overpass over I-57 in Kankakee (https://goo.gl/maps/CsLYjvWi8vUtLjxa6) along with a few other improvements.
* Item 154 involves a new traffic signal and intersection improvements with realignment for IL 176 at Nish Road. (https://goo.gl/maps/LfqgaW7rxsoyyYXV9)
* Item 155 has deck replacement for I-55 at IL 53 and superstructure replacement for I-55 at Joliet Road in Bolingbrook.
* Item 158 has expansion joint replacement and other bridge work for I-55 over the Kankakee River (doesn't seem like it has been that long since those bridges were last worked on).
* Item 187 constructs Restricted Crossing U-Turn intersections for IL 13/IL 127 at Ava Road and for IL 13/IL 127 at Grange Hall Road.
* Item 188 constructs a Restricted Crossing U-Turn intersection for IL 13 at Carrier Mills Road (https://goo.gl/maps/o3XeEgzR51GAKmVc9) west of Harrisburg
* Item 206: Bridge replacement for I-55 at Lemont Road
* Item 217 reconstructs the Laraway Road intersection with Cedar Road in New Lenox
* Item 219 is reconstruction of Business 20 from Day Avenue to Independence Avenue in Rockford
* Item 221 would appear to be a contract for redoing the I-57/I-74 interchange
* Item 227: "0.8 miles of Bureau of Research test pavement alongside US 50 from Crackerneck Road to Russland Road" near Aviston in Clinton County.
I wonder why they are choosing to resurface the stretch of IL137 from state line to the amstutz this year rather than the stretch from the amstutz to US41 as that stretch is probably the worst conditioned pavement in the entire district.
Item 206: Is that just the bridge or an interchange fix?
Quote from: ET21 on May 08, 2021, 08:25:41 PM
Item 206: Is that just the bridge or an interchange fix?
That is a very good question. There are traffic signal pay items listed - no permanent mast arms but a lot for a span wire signal. Could be an interim fix?
[edited to fix grammar]
Quote from: ET21 on May 08, 2021, 08:25:41 PM
Item 206: Is that just the bridge or an interchange fix?
I'm willing to bet a bridge replacement. Many of those bridges haven't been touched since I-55 was widened there back in the late 1970s/early 1980s or so. Nary a week goes by where at least one of these needs an emergency repair between IL-53 and County Line Road where there's a hole in the freaking bridge.
Lemont Road north: https://goo.gl/maps/UBaooVmiKntLnD1x9
Lemont Road south: https://goo.gl/maps/s3bKckx38f9E85zj7
Lemont Road seems to be one of the better ones, oddly enough.
The IL-53 bridge on the other hand...
https://goo.gl/maps/7bqwtyZqvYtZx4wu7
https://goo.gl/maps/aHRn9HC4nW9S39N59
https://goo.gl/maps/5Ki63F6doLpFCgPy7 (Yes, that's wood under the girders on the left)
https://goo.gl/maps/C5mqTqFKSPgx14qh8
Quote from: Brandon on May 09, 2021, 09:11:58 AM
Quote from: ET21 on May 08, 2021, 08:25:41 PM
Item 206: Is that just the bridge or an interchange fix?
I'm willing to bet a bridge replacement. Many of those bridges haven't been touched since I-55 was widened there back in the late 1970s/early 1980s or so. Nary a week goes by where at least one of these needs an emergency repair between IL-53 and County Line Road where there's a hole in the freaking bridge.
Lemont Road north: https://goo.gl/maps/UBaooVmiKntLnD1x9
Lemont Road south: https://goo.gl/maps/s3bKckx38f9E85zj7
Lemont Road seems to be one of the better ones, oddly enough.
The IL-53 bridge on the other hand...
https://goo.gl/maps/7bqwtyZqvYtZx4wu7
https://goo.gl/maps/aHRn9HC4nW9S39N59
https://goo.gl/maps/5Ki63F6doLpFCgPy7 (Yes, that's wood under the girders on the left)
https://goo.gl/maps/C5mqTqFKSPgx14qh8
Harlem Ave over 95th is in a very similar shape, just waiting for that bridge to collapse
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7191818,-87.798326,3a,75y,292.38h,97.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBpcAAi4NutDHwwc_Pe-VHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7191818,-87.798326,3a,75y,292.38h,97.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBpcAAi4NutDHwwc_Pe-VHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Some shoulder only projects like Illinois 1 last month . 34 near Earlville will have 4.5 foot on paved compared to the current 1.5. Not much consistency. 67 north of Monmouth 5 feet 125 near Pleasant Plains looks 7 or 8.P
Also looks like some projects moved up from next fy. Their money situation must be better.
Quote from: Brandon on May 09, 2021, 09:11:58 AM
Quote from: ET21 on May 08, 2021, 08:25:41 PM
Item 206: Is that just the bridge or an interchange fix?
https://goo.gl/maps/5Ki63F6doLpFCgPy7 (Yes, that's wood under the girders on the left)
Those pieces of wood are just to support human bodies as they work on building or rehabilitating the bridge deck/superstructure. They bridge the gap between flanges with pieces of wood, and sometimes plywood is added on top of those; then people stand on top of them as they paint/saw/rebar etc. They have no real impact on the bridge's structural integrity, so the construction workers often just forget about them and leave some or all of them there.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 12, 2021, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 09, 2021, 09:11:58 AM
Quote from: ET21 on May 08, 2021, 08:25:41 PM
Item 206: Is that just the bridge or an interchange fix?
https://goo.gl/maps/5Ki63F6doLpFCgPy7 (Yes, that's wood under the girders on the left)
Those pieces of wood are just to support human bodies as they work on building or rehabilitating the bridge deck/superstructure. They bridge the gap between flanges with pieces of wood, and sometimes plywood added on top of those, then stand on top of them as they paint/saw/rebar etc. They have no real impact on the bridge's structural integrity, so the construction workers often just forget about them and leave some or all of them there.
The 53 Bridge is getting a redecking and widening this summer.
https://www.wjol.com/seven-construction-projects-this-summer-of-which-five-are-on-i-55/#:~:text=I%2D55%20at%20Illinois%2053,2021%20and%20completed%20fall%202021.
Item 71 on the June 2021 Letting has some of the signals on US 67 in Alton and Godfrey plus the signal at the IL 143 intersection with IL 140 getting the first flashing yellow arrows in District 8.
List of projects for the July 30, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/59d7cf64-1b64-4e46-8110-c154207bf5bf)
* Item 6 installs a new traffic signal on IL 60 somewhere near Wauconda.
* Item 11 is a bridge replacement and some roadway reconstruction with traffic signal work somewhere on IL 132 in Lake County
* Item 12 adds a new traffic signal to IL 126 at the Will County/Kendall County line.
* Item 30 replaces the bridge on IL 8 over BNSF near Edwards (https://goo.gl/maps/mJTUkXLkKWBrrL4E9).
* Item 43: "9 miles of lane addition, median barrier installation and resurfacing existing lanes of I-57 from mile post 66 to Marcum Branch"
* Item 67 reconstruction the IL 72 intersection with State Street and Getzleman Road in Hampshire (https://goo.gl/maps/dSRTAjABZrkMzmQ99)
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 25, 2021, 10:02:13 PM
List of projects for the July 30, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/59d7cf64-1b64-4e46-8110-c154207bf5bf)
* Item 43: "9 miles of lane addition, median barrier installation and resurfacing existing lanes of I-57 from mile post 66 to Marcum Branch"
That pushes the 6-laning of I-57 between Mt Vernon and Marion from West Frankfort (which was the previous segment) up to the southern end of Rend Lake/just north of Benton
Maybe I-57 really will ultimately become a 6-lane Freeway between I-24 and I-64
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 26, 2021, 04:13:49 AM
Maybe I-57 really will ultimately become a 6-lane Freeway between I-24 and I-64
With this project and the others mentioned here, the only remaining 6-lane gap in that section will be south of Marion to I-24.
https://news.wsiu.org/transportation/2020-10-01/idot-plans-lots-of-work-on-i-57-in-southern-illinois
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 25, 2021, 10:02:13 PM
List of projects for the July 30, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/59d7cf64-1b64-4e46-8110-c154207bf5bf)
* Item 12 adds a new traffic signal to IL 126 at the Will County/Kendall County line.
That's only been needed for decades at what is a very dangerous intersection.
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 26, 2021, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 26, 2021, 04:13:49 AM
Maybe I-57 really will ultimately become a 6-lane Freeway between I-24 and I-64
With this project and the others mentioned here, the only remaining 6-lane gap in that section will be south of Marion to I-24.
https://news.wsiu.org/transportation/2020-10-01/idot-plans-lots-of-work-on-i-57-in-southern-illinois
I'm pretty sure the gap between the Marion Main St/Old IL 13 exit and the I-24/I-57 split will get the 6 landing once the route has it north to Mt Vernon
Yes, traffic exits in Marion for the IL 13 corridor, but pretty sure the bulk of the traffic, especially truck traffic, is following the 57 SW-NE route (Memphis-Chicago) or the 24/64 SE-NW route (Nashville-St Louis), and those two routes are multiplexed, despite only the 57 designation between Marion and Mt Vernon, hence the 6 laning needed. It is pretty heavy semi traffic on the weekdays
Still no I-80 Will County level of semis - can't believe that isn't getting a bigger rebuild and expansion than it is
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 25, 2021, 10:02:13 PM
* Item 6 installs a new traffic signal on IL 60 somewhere near Wauconda.
I have a feeling this is for a new traffic light at IL-60's intersection with Wilson Road, something that indeed is probably needed.
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 25, 2021, 10:02:13 PM
List of projects for the July 30, 2021 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/59d7cf64-1b64-4e46-8110-c154207bf5bf)
* Item 12 adds a new traffic signal to IL 126 at the Will County/Kendall County line.
That's only been needed for decades at what is a very dangerous intersection.
Jesus fucking Christ it absolutely has been. Google routes people north on County Line to IL-126 west all the time because it doesn't like the new S-curve on Ridge Road taking people back northeast, but making that left turn onto IL-126 west is impossible and horrifically dangerous.
List of projects for the September 17, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37d518f2-21c6-405f-8a11-b6fdc6c89d38)
* Item 3 involves the installation of left turn lanes and other safety improvements along IL 176 in McHenry County between Deerpass Road and Dean Street.
* Item 4 has improvements to the US 14/"Prospect Road" intersection in Mount Prospect and Des Plaines.
* Item 6: More intersection improvements for the IL 19 intersection with Barrington Road
* Item 7: Pavement and ITS work on SB I-55 from south of Weber to south of I-80
* Item 8: Pavement and ITS work on NB I-55 from south of I-80 to south of Weber
* Item 12: "Installation of traffic signal safety devices to increase visibility of signal indications during inclement weather. Location - 23 intersections in Cook, 4 locations in Lake, 35 locations in Kane, 4 locations in McHenry, 23 locations in Will." Pay item listings has lens covers and visor heaters
* Item 15: Sign replacement along I-55 from Weber to I-294
* Item 17 mentions a road diet for US 20 in East Dubuque
* Item 52: "Conversion of the wye intersection of IL 149 and IL 184 to a roundabout intersection" in Franklin County.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
List of projects for the September 17, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37d518f2-21c6-405f-8a11-b6fdc6c89d38)
* Item 12: "Installation of traffic signal safety devices to increase visibility of signal indications during inclement weather. Location - 23 intersections in Cook, 4 locations in Lake, 35 locations in Kane, 4 locations in McHenry, 23 locations in Will." Pay item listings has lens covers and visor heaters
By "safety devices to increase visibility," do you think they're gonna put the yellow tape on the backplates? I honestly think it's a really cost effective way to make signals more visible and wish district one used it more.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
* Item 17 mentions a road diet for US 20 in East Dubuque
So they're going to improve US-20 by... making the slow 2-lane section drag on for longer. Brilliant.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
List of projects for the September 17, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/37d518f2-21c6-405f-8a11-b6fdc6c89d38)
* Item 52: "Conversion of the wye intersection of IL 149 and IL 184 to a roundabout intersection" in Franklin County.
Nice - Royalton needs a Traffic Circle there. Another Roundabout in Southern Illinois. The one at IL 13 and IL 154 in Pinckneyville/Perry County, people still haven't figured out how to properly enter the thing
On its plus side, tho - it does generally flow smoother than a 3-way stop, so I do recognize the benefit of said roundabout
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 14, 2021, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
* Item 17 mentions a road diet for US 20 in East Dubuque
So they're going to improve US-20 by... making the slow 2-lane section drag on for longer. Brilliant.
https://www.telegraphherald.com/news/tri-state/article_f7efea1b-02ba-5efe-b357-a80912b6d693.html
Quote from: Hobart on August 13, 2021, 11:32:06 PM
By "safety devices to increase visibility," do you think they're gonna put the yellow tape on the backplates? I honestly think it's a really cost effective way to make signals more visible and wish district one used it more.
The pay item for reflective backplates is listed with a quantity of 839.
Quote from: cwm1276 on August 14, 2021, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 14, 2021, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
* Item 17 mentions a road diet for US 20 in East Dubuque
So they're going to improve US-20 by... making the slow 2-lane section drag on for longer. Brilliant.
https://www.telegraphherald.com/news/tri-state/article_f7efea1b-02ba-5efe-b357-a80912b6d693.html
It would only improve safety if people even knew how to use a turn lane. So many people ride the brakes while very slowly scooting into it. This causes traffic behind them to have to do the same.... aggravating.
Ones that I noticed as well...
* 10 - Metra structure over I-90 at Jefferson Park.
Could this be in preparation for the Kennedy being widened? That "tunnel" is not currently built for 4 lanes each way.
* 16 - Replacement of deck of IL 251 over the SOO Line south of IL 72
* 19 - Replacement of Maple St/Waldron Rd bridge over I-57 in Kankakee.
Hopefully they get it wide enough for 3 lanes each way on 57.
* 26 - Changeable Speed Limit signs are being placed on I-80. 4 at I-39 and 3 at I-180.
* 60 - Reconstruction of the Prairie Path from Indian Trail Rd in Aurora to the DuPage County Line.
The Metra tracks over I-90 will def be an interesting project, considering its also goes over Wilson and Cicero Ave
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 14, 2021, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
* Item 17 mentions a road diet for US 20 in East Dubuque
So they're going to improve US-20 by... making the slow 2-lane section drag on for longer. Brilliant.
I'm thinking that is probably only going to affect the four lane undivided portion as one is coming into town from the east. The stretch where there are a lot of driveways and potential left turns; transitioning part of that into a 3 lane road with center left turn lane and wide shoulders would be safer.
Well, not as safe as going big and building a real expressway, but there's no room for that without taking out every property between East Dubuque and the existing divided highway.
Is safety the only main reason why they are giving it a diet? Volume shouldn't be that low to downgrade it otherwise
Quote from: triplemultiplex on August 16, 2021, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 14, 2021, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
* Item 17 mentions a road diet for US 20 in East Dubuque
So they're going to improve US-20 by... making the slow 2-lane section drag on for longer. Brilliant.
I'm thinking that is probably only going to affect the four lane undivided portion as one is coming into town from the east. The stretch where there are a lot of driveways and potential left turns; transitioning part of that into a 3 lane road with center left turn lane and wide shoulders would be safer.
Yes. Take a look at the plans (https://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/091721/017-64N63/PLANS/) and you'll see that they're not planning on moving the extents of the pavement at all; this is just a patching and restriping contract. The road will be the same width along the 4-lane undivided section to the east, but it'll be striped as 2 lanes plus a center turn lane in the center. The overall idea is to move the westbound bottleneck farther east so the ensuing traffic queue doesn't block the residents' access in or out of their driveways. The center turn lane will further help residents access their driveways. The bottleneck from 4 lanes to 2 lanes approaching the river only gets erased if they widen the bridge across the Mississippi River. So really, capacity didn't really get affected here; the merge just got moved a bit farther over.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 13, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
* Item 15: Sign replacement along I-55 from Weber to I-294
* Item 52: "Conversion of the wye intersection of IL 149 and IL 184 to a roundabout intersection" in Franklin County.
Nooooo all the button copy signs by Lemont Rd and IL-83 are probably on their way out.
And I have been to that wye intersection at the south end of IL-184 twice. Very interesting spot to try and swing a roundabout-makes sense if you consider the ROW space available. That will be a learning experience for a lot of people in deep southern IL.
I think I've only driven through that wye intersection once–if at all. But yeah, I can't think of a single "modern roundabout" anywhere in southern Illinois. They're all town squares (like downtown Benton) or at least have parking along the sides and/or a park in the middle (like Zeigler by the Eagles lodge) or have yield/stop control on the inside (like downtown Jonesboro) or – wait a minute, when did Belleville get modern roundabouts? Illinois & Main didn't use to have yield signs, did it? And the interchange at Route 148 didn't even use to have roundabouts at all, did it?
^ District 8 had been on a roundabout binge for a little while - I can think of at least five:
* IL 156 at Lakeview Drive in Waterloo
* IL 13 at IL 157
* The two at the IL 15/IL 158 interchange in Belleville
* US 40/IL 143 at IL 160 in Highland
I think there were plans for another on IL 3 in the Alton/Godfrey area west of US 67.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 14, 2021, 12:05:56 PM
Quote from: Hobart on August 13, 2021, 11:32:06 PM
By "safety devices to increase visibility," do you think they're gonna put the yellow tape on the backplates? I honestly think it's a really cost effective way to make signals more visible and wish district one used it more.
The pay item for reflective backplates is listed with a quantity of 839.
Per the 2022 spec for IDOT (see Page 1031 or 1048/1217) (https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Manuals-Guides-&-Handbooks/Highways/Construction/Standard-Specifications/2022%20Standard%20Specifications%20for%20Road%20and%20Bridge%20Construction.pdf), retroreflective backplates will now be the default signal backplate for Illinois.
The stretch of I-55 from 294 to IL53/Gardner exit dates back to US-66 time. Was on 1958 maps.
Got widened with a 3rd lane when Blago was Gov.
* 10 - Metra structure over I-90 at Jefferson Park.
"Could this be in preparation for the Kennedy being widened? That "tunnel" is not currently built for 4 lanes each way."
Driven past it a few times recently, and it is just the RR tracks and bridge, no plans to "widen the tunnel" or that portion JFK X-way. There is no room. No more urban areas will be "ripped out" for highways.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 26, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
Per the 2022 spec for IDOT (see Page 1031 or 1048/1217) (https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Manuals-Guides-&-Handbooks/Highways/Construction/Standard-Specifications/2022%20Standard%20Specifications%20for%20Road%20and%20Bridge%20Construction.pdf), retroreflective backplates will now be the default signal backplate for Illinois.
I don't think I'll ever be able to adequately express how stupid I think this is. Sure, a non-lit yellow colored backplate will draw people's attention to a traffic signal more effectively than a red, yellow, or green glowing light. >_>
Quote from: US20IL64 on September 07, 2021, 10:33:10 PM
The stretch of I-55 from 294 to IL53/Gardner exit dates back to US-66 time. Was on 1958 maps.
Got widened with a 3rd lane when Blago was Gov.
They would have to replace the twin bridges at the Des Plaines river if the widening of I-55 is extended south of I-80.
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on September 13, 2021, 11:15:45 PM
They would have to replace the twin bridges at the Des Plaines river if the widening of I-55 is extended south of I-80.
That would be ideal, but there would be a few benefits from at least getting the lanes added down to US 6 or Bluff Road with all the new truck traffic that has been generated around there with Amazon, Whirlpool and Target DCs. Right now, it necks down south of I-80 just north of the I&M canal bridge, with only a mile to go to the US 6 exit.
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 14, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on September 13, 2021, 11:15:45 PM
They would have to replace the twin bridges at the Des Plaines river if the widening of I-55 is extended south of I-80.
That would be ideal, but there would be a few benefits from at least getting the lanes added down to US 6 or Bluff Road with all the new truck traffic that has been generated around there with Amazon, Whirlpool and Target DCs. Right now, it necks down south of I-80 just north of the I&M canal bridge, with only a mile to go to the US 6 exit.
I realize this is getting off topic a bit, but just to add to this discussion, those bridges are in desperate need of replacement, as they seem to be closed or partially closed for repairs or maintenance every few years at this point. Truly, I-55 needs widening to at least the Arsenal exit, but even down to Bluff Road would alleviate some of the quick merging the trucks have to do going South right after the I-80 interchange. A lot of truck traffic does come off I-80 going towards the DCs and Arsenal.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 14, 2021, 01:39:10 PM
I realize this is getting off topic a bit, but just to add to this discussion, those bridges are in desperate need of replacement, as they seem to be closed or partially closed for repairs or maintenance every few years at this point. Truly, I-55 needs widening to at least the Arsenal exit, but even down to Bluff Road would alleviate some of the quick merging the trucks have to do going South right after the I-80 interchange. A lot of truck traffic does come off I-80 going towards the DCs and Arsenal.
Anecdotally, I see a lot more trucks on IL 47 between Morris and Dwight these days, especially when there is bridge work on the I-55 Des Plaines bridge. IDOT sometimes signs it as an alternate route.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 13, 2021, 10:04:05 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 26, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
Per the 2022 spec for IDOT (see Page 1031 or 1048/1217) (https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Manuals-Guides-&-Handbooks/Highways/Construction/Standard-Specifications/2022%20Standard%20Specifications%20for%20Road%20and%20Bridge%20Construction.pdf), retroreflective backplates will now be the default signal backplate for Illinois.
I don't think I'll ever be able to adequately express how stupid I think this is. Sure, a non-lit yellow colored backplate will draw people's attention to a traffic signal more effectively than a red, yellow, or green glowing light. >_>
Pretty sure it's meant to act as a back-up in case the lights are completely out. If it's at night, you may not realize there's a signal coming up. I actually like that they're making it standard. I dislike that IDOT signals are always all black now, no matter where they are installed. I understand it in downtown areas, but I don't like that it's even used in areas where the black is overkill.
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 14, 2021, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 14, 2021, 01:39:10 PM
I realize this is getting off topic a bit, but just to add to this discussion, those bridges are in desperate need of replacement, as they seem to be closed or partially closed for repairs or maintenance every few years at this point. Truly, I-55 needs widening to at least the Arsenal exit, but even down to Bluff Road would alleviate some of the quick merging the trucks have to do going South right after the I-80 interchange. A lot of truck traffic does come off I-80 going towards the DCs and Arsenal.
Anecdotally, I see a lot more trucks on IL 47 between Morris and Dwight these days, especially when there is bridge work on the I-55 Des Plaines bridge. IDOT sometimes signs it as an alternate route.
Either that, or a longer-range bypass (if traveling to points further downstate), I-80 to I-39, which I have done at times to avoid I-55 construction traffic.
Old 66/55 section is in need of update, and ongoing. I-80 getting new bridge over DP river, finally.
290 Ike widening is up in the air due to funding, per IDOT site. https://www.eisenhowerexpressway.com/ click on "what is status?"
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 14, 2021, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 14, 2021, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 14, 2021, 01:39:10 PM
I realize this is getting off topic a bit, but just to add to this discussion, those bridges are in desperate need of replacement, as they seem to be closed or partially closed for repairs or maintenance every few years at this point. Truly, I-55 needs widening to at least the Arsenal exit, but even down to Bluff Road would alleviate some of the quick merging the trucks have to do going South right after the I-80 interchange. A lot of truck traffic does come off I-80 going towards the DCs and Arsenal.
Anecdotally, I see a lot more trucks on IL 47 between Morris and Dwight these days, especially when there is bridge work on the I-55 Des Plaines bridge. IDOT sometimes signs it as an alternate route.
Either that, or a longer-range bypass (if traveling to points further downstate), I-80 to I-39, which I have done at times to avoid I-55 construction traffic.
I could have sworn I read somewhere that Grundy County was authorizing a study looking into widening 47 between Morris and Dwight. I haven't been able to find the article, so I think I may have just imagined it
Quote from: inkyatari on September 18, 2021, 02:43:16 AM
I could have sworn I read somewhere that Grundy County was authorizing a study looking into widening 47 between Morris and Dwight. I haven't been able to find the article, so I think I may have just imagined it
When I was at IDOT District 3, the Feds were pushing IDOT to widen IL 47 all the way down to IL 113 as part of the IL River replacement/add lanes project. IDOT pushed back and finally the Feds agreed to let them end the 4 lane section at Southmor Road instead. Typically counties will not study a state road unless there is something in it for them. Grundy did start the study for the Brisbin Road interchange on I-80, but IDOT had to complete it when the county ran out of money, and then IDOT got federal funding and an earmark to build it. I have not heard that Grundy is spending money on a study of the IL 47 corridor but would not be surprised if they are encouraging IDOT to look at it.
IDOT is soon replacing the IL 47 overhead bridge at I-55 in Dwight, which is currently set up for 4 lanes. The "TS&L" plans for the new bridge have it being replaced with a 4 lane design, which bodes well for continuing to look at an added lane to fill the gap between I-55 and Southmor Road sometime in the future. You can find the plan here.
https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Standards/Bridge-TSL-Drawings/0320125TSL-20191015.pdf
Was on that IL-47 bridge over 55 and it's under construction now,
List of projects for the November 5, 2021 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/2f700b85-4257-4d56-b20a-50c2a4856259)
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
* Item 5 is bridge rehabilitation for I-57 at I-80.
* Item 21 would have been work on the "North "Inner Loops"" for I-39 at I-80
* Item 52: "Traffic signal modernization, flashing yellow arrows, on IL 161 from IL 159 to the YMCA and SWIC entrance"
* Item 68: Signal work and "geometric improvements at intersections at four intersections on 75th Street in Naperville
* Item 73 (already deleted) would have replaced the Shepley Road Bridge over I-80
* Item 91 Is for improvements to the 87th Street - Woodridge Avenue intersection
* Item 118 is some sort of streetscaping and bicycle lane project "on IL 50 from East Station Street to just north of East Charles Street in Kankakee"
* Item 122 is for sign structure and panel replacement in District 1 at various locations
* Item 126 is for intersection and traffic signal improvements on Torrence Avenue north of I-80/I-94
* Item 148: "Reconstruct the intersection of Madison Street, South Street, and Lake Avenue into a roundabout in the City of Woodstock."
* Item 149 is for reconstructing and widening 80th Avenue in Tinley Park, including replacement of the bridge over I-80
* Item 152: "Reconstruct the intersection of Orchard Road and US 30 in Montgomery."
* Item 153: "Reconstruction of US 20 from Gear Street to Main Street in Galena."
* Item 156 adds more railroad overpasses in Springfield, this time for Jefferson Street and Madison Street
* Item 157: "Construction of a grade separation structure to carry Brush College Road over the Norfold Southern Railroad and Fairies Parkway in Decatur."
* Item 158: "Construction of a rounabout intersection at Keebler Road and IL 162 in Maryville"
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
Item 3 - I am going to guess will be at Gary Mill Rd and Route 59. That is a really bad intersection during school hours because of Currier School about 1/4 mile east.
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 11, 2021, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
Item 3 - I am going to guess will be at Gary Mill Rd and Route 59. That is a really bad intersection during school hours because of Currier School about 1/4 mile east.
Yes, that's it, saw in maybe in another part of IDOT site
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
* Item 91 Is for improvements to the 87th Street - Woodridge Avenue intersection
Sounds like this project is really happening. There's been rumors for several years now, that the 87th/Woodward intersection would be rebuilt to accomadate high traffic volume due to the Costco. All I know was that northbound Woodward would receive dual left-turn lanes. Don't exactly know how they'll fit it in unless they remove the right-turn lane.
I'm waiting for the day they add stoplights at the Costco entrance on Woodward and over at 87th and Havens. So many near collisions at those two.
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 11, 2021, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
Item 3 - I am going to guess will be at Gary Mill Rd and Route 59. That is a really bad intersection during school hours because of Currier School about 1/4 mile east.
Yes, this is the intersection of IL-59 and Gary's Mill Road. Gary's Mill Road will have a left turn lane and a right turn lane, and the signal will be interconnected (i.e. timed in association) with the signal at Browning Way to the north (the access road to IL-38's eastbound lanes).
Edit: There's also an interconnect to the Joliet Street signal to the southwest. Plans are here (https://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/012122/003-62K99/PLANS/PL-62K99-003.pdf).
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 13, 2021, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 11, 2021, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
Item 3 - I am going to guess will be at Gary Mill Rd and Route 59. That is a really bad intersection during school hours because of Currier School about 1/4 mile east.
Yes, this is the intersection of IL-59 and Gary's Mill Road. Gary's Mill Road will have a left turn lane and a right turn lane, and the signal will be interconnected (i.e. timed in association) with the signal at Browning Way to the north (the access road to IL-38's eastbound lanes).
Edit: There's also an interconnect to the Joliet Street signal to the southwest. Plans are here (https://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/012122/003-62K99/PLANS/PL-62K99-003.pdf).
Years ago IDOT and DuPage County tried to tie Gary's Mill and Wilson Street into a single signaled interchange, but the need to claim forest preserve land on both sides got the greens riled up.
I remember a school bus accident at Gary's Mill got everyone all riled up to "fix it" but the greens prevailed and not alot happened until IDOT did a update to IL-59, but it never really took care of the problem 100%
Quote from: edwaleni on December 30, 2021, 12:13:02 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 13, 2021, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 11, 2021, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
Item 3 - I am going to guess will be at Gary Mill Rd and Route 59. That is a really bad intersection during school hours because of Currier School about 1/4 mile east.
Yes, this is the intersection of IL-59 and Gary's Mill Road. Gary's Mill Road will have a left turn lane and a right turn lane, and the signal will be interconnected (i.e. timed in association) with the signal at Browning Way to the north (the access road to IL-38's eastbound lanes).
Edit: There's also an interconnect to the Joliet Street signal to the southwest. Plans are here (https://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/012122/003-62K99/PLANS/PL-62K99-003.pdf).
Years ago IDOT and DuPage County tried to tie Gary's Mill and Wilson Street into a single signaled interchange, but the need to claim forest preserve land on both sides got the greens riled up.
I remember a school bus accident at Gary's Mill got everyone all riled up to "fix it" but the greens prevailed and not alot happened until IDOT did a update to IL-59, but it never really took care of the problem 100%
Wilson (at that spot) is just a side street of nothing to note. Had Wilson gone through to the Wilson in Batavia, then that would certainly need a signal.
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 31, 2021, 01:35:01 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on December 30, 2021, 12:13:02 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 13, 2021, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 11, 2021, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
List of projects for the January 21, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/9647cca9-4e89-4e58-b7dc-afd23feb0d94).
Of note:
* Item 3 appears to be a new traffic signal somewhere on IL 59 in West Chicago
Item 3 - I am going to guess will be at Gary Mill Rd and Route 59. That is a really bad intersection during school hours because of Currier School about 1/4 mile east.
Yes, this is the intersection of IL-59 and Gary's Mill Road. Gary's Mill Road will have a left turn lane and a right turn lane, and the signal will be interconnected (i.e. timed in association) with the signal at Browning Way to the north (the access road to IL-38's eastbound lanes).
Edit: There's also an interconnect to the Joliet Street signal to the southwest. Plans are here (https://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/012122/003-62K99/PLANS/PL-62K99-003.pdf).
Years ago IDOT and DuPage County tried to tie Gary's Mill and Wilson Street into a single signaled interchange, but the need to claim forest preserve land on both sides got the greens riled up.
I remember a school bus accident at Gary's Mill got everyone all riled up to "fix it" but the greens prevailed and not alot happened until IDOT did a update to IL-59, but it never really took care of the problem 100%
Wilson (at that spot) is just a side street of nothing to note. Had Wilson gone through to the Wilson in Batavia, then that would certainly need a signal.
When Fermilab was built, yes, Wilson was a nothing burger road for 2 farmers.
However, one of them, the Kress Family Farm and some adjoining properties were turned into a large park and recreational facility.
That is when the talk of merging Wilson and Gary's Mill took place.
When that didn't fly they tried to stub Wilson at IL-59 and force people to use Joliet Street (old IL-59) to reach IL-59. That got a lot of howling from the 2 new subdivisions.
Then at the last refresh of IL-59, IDOT wanted to ban left turns from Wilson East onto IL-59 North because you can't see around the turn, especially when cars are at speed. That got a lot of howling as well.
It's been awhile, but I think the howling is from parents of West Chicago Elementary School District 33 for Currier Elementary.
Parent access for the School (which sits on Gary's Mill) from the west is via IL-59 and from the east its IL-38.
If you stub Gary's Mill at IL-59, parents west of IL-59 will have to take Joliet up to IL-38 go past the school and turn right to come back.
If you stub Wilson at IL-59, same deal.
So what you have essentially are parents turning left from Wilson, jogging over on IL-59 to reach Gary's Mill in less than a half mile and turning right to reach Currier.
The school bus accident was caused by kids going to Currier, turning left on IL-59 south onto Gary's Mill. The bus was hit by a northbounder on IL-59. Again if memory serves, it was a foggy morning as well.
Complicating the situation is that the West Branch of the DuPage River flows right next to IL-59 here (hence where "Gary's Mill" was) and is prone to flooding and there are 2 forest preserves one on each side.
I remember seeing several plans proposed by IDOT way back when to merge the 2 roads into a single signal for cross traffic.
One was to drag the eastern terminus of Wilson northward to a new Gary's Mill that ran straight west with a new bridge/intersection involved.
The other was to make Gary's Mill turn south, west of the school and bring it down to where Wilson was. This had the most environmental problems as it required significant disruption of wetlands.
Back in the early 1960's, IDOT had plans to turn IL-59 into a more limited access facility, that is why when it was moved east and away from Joliet Ave. in the 1950's they built an overpass over IL-38 (which was Alt US-30 at the time) with signal controlled ramps. That and many other IDOT plans like this died in the 1970's. They tried to move more IL-59 traffic over to the proposed Fox Valley Freeway, but that died as well.
When Plainfield, South Naperville and Joliet expanded west in the 1990's, north-south traffic on IL-59 has ballooned between I-55 and Barrington.
List of projects for the March 11, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/da27d88f-93c2-4cca-ab9d-689321e8783a) Of note:
* Item 26 is a various location sign replacement contract for District 1
* Item 28 is traffic signal upgrades for Andalusia Road at Ridgewood Road and IL 92 in Rock Island
* Item 98 appears to be traffic signal modifications in various towns in McHenry County
* Item 100 is signal work in Downers Grove for the 63rd Street intersection with Main Street
* Item 131: "Reconstruction of Franklin Avenue from Runge Street to Mannheim Road in Franklin Park"
* Item 133 is intersection improvements for IL 59 at West Bartlett Road
* Item 138 (already deleted) would have been reconstruction of Wood Street - Ashland Avenue from north of Thornton Road to 138th Street in Harvey, Dixmoor, and Riverdale.
[edited to add Item 1X]
List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6a288be4-646f-46f1-98b1-fdfe8967b1d0)
* Item 1X is review and inspection for a future contract to replace the I-270 Chain of Rocks Main Channel Bridge. The project details listed a completion date of "November 01, 2026 Plus 30 Working Days".
* Item 10 is deck replacement and other repairs for 175th Street over I-57
* Item 14 is bridge repairs and repainting for US 30 over the Mississippi River
* Item 16 is repairs to one of the arch bridges on US 67 in Rock Island County (the exact bridge doesn't seem to be specified)
* Item 17 is bridge work for I-39 over Black Hawk Road near Rockford
* Item 23 is traffic signal improvements for railroad intersections along US 24 in Watseka and for the US 30 - Elm Street intersection in Waterman.
* Item 27 is "an interim improvement to address poor pavement condition" with resurfacing along IL 47 on the north side of Yorkville
* Item 39 is intersection improvements for IL 336 at E. 600th Street near Colchester (https://goo.gl/maps/WvpzZDgaZGjgGZ8w9)
* Item 58 is bridge repairs for US 136 over the Mississippi River
* Item 77 adds flashing yellow arrows to US 45 at Devers Road and the I-24 ramps
* Item 78 has signal modifications and ADA improvements for IL 13 at Giant City Road on the east side of Carbondale
* Item 80: "Installing retroreflective backplates on traffic signals throughout District 9"
* Item 89 appears to be equipment repairs for the reversible lanes on the Kennedy
* Item 110 reads as though the signal for IL 47 at Pine Bluff Road south of Morris would be removed, but the pay item listing suggest modifications
* Item 114: "Reconstruct the intersection of Rock Island Parkway and 85th Avenue West in Rock Island."
* Item 126 is bridge painting for I-290 at IL 58, the ramps at the I-290/I-355 interchange, and 25th Avenue at the Indiana Harbor Belt Railroad
* Item 166: "Traffic signal mast arm replacement at various locations in Peoria, Tazewell, and McDonough Counties."
* Item 167: "Installation of truck parking information management systems (TPIMS) at the Spoon River and Mackinaw Dells (EB and WB) rest areas" on I-74
* Item 174 looks like another large contract for the I-57/I-74 interchange
* Item 183 widens Peace Road in DeKalb from the westbound I-88 ramps to IL 38
* Item 186 is bridge rehab for the bridge carrying County Highway 10 over the BNSF yard near Galesburg (https://goo.gl/maps/7K9L6cok3mR18Buw8).
* Item 193 appears to be some sort of improvements for the US 12/Rand Road - Mount Prospect Road - Central Road cluster in Mount Prospect (https://goo.gl/maps/n9ZucPe1r2Vdmf2o7)
* Item 196 adds a right turn lane somewhere around the "I-290 northbound ramp" at Biesterfield Road in Elk Grove Village, along with traffic signal and bridge work.
* Item 197 is some sort of bridge work for US 12/IL 59 at Fish Creek around Volo
* Item 200 is reconstruction of Wood Street in Harvey, Dixmoor, and Riverdale
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 25, 2022, 11:20:49 PM
List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6a288be4-646f-46f1-98b1-fdfe8967b1d0)
* Item 77 adds flashing yellow arrows to US 45 at Devers Road and the I-24 ramps
* Item 78 has signal modifications and ADA improvements for IL 13 at Giant City Road on the east side of Carbondale
Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.
I'm curious what the signal improvements at IL 13 and Giant City Road will be. The phasing has always been weird at the light anyway, with a Lead/Lag for Left Turn movements from 13 onto Giant City Road. I'd like to see FYAs for Giant City Road traffic. Pretty sure the Double Lefts from 13 to Giant City Road will stay Protected-Only.
I could see Pedestrian signals and striped crosswalks added for walking traffic, especially with the bike/running trail now along 13 between Giant City Road and Reed Station Rd
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 26, 2022, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 25, 2022, 11:20:49 PM
List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6a288be4-646f-46f1-98b1-fdfe8967b1d0)
* Item 77 adds flashing yellow arrows to US 45 at Devers Road and the I-24 ramps
* Item 78 has signal modifications and ADA improvements for IL 13 at Giant City Road on the east side of Carbondale
Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.
I'm curious what the signal improvements at IL 13 and Giant City Road will be. The phasing has always been weird at the light anyway, with a Lead/Lag for Left Turn movements from 13 onto Giant City Road. I'd like to see FYAs for Giant City Road traffic. Pretty sure the Double Lefts from 13 to Giant City Road will stay Protected-Only.
I could see Pedestrian signals and striped crosswalks added for walking traffic, especially with the bike/running trail now along 13 between Giant City Road and Reed Station Rd
Hilarious that it's taking IDOT so long to implement FYAs statewide, even on completely new signal installations. You go to Wisconsin and you can hardly escape them. State roads, county roads, even local roads.
Peace Road getting two lanes each way has been needed for almost 10 years, especially with all the warehouses going up around there
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 26, 2022, 03:36:51 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 26, 2022, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 25, 2022, 11:20:49 PM
List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6a288be4-646f-46f1-98b1-fdfe8967b1d0)
* Item 77 adds flashing yellow arrows to US 45 at Devers Road and the I-24 ramps
* Item 78 has signal modifications and ADA improvements for IL 13 at Giant City Road on the east side of Carbondale
Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.
I'm curious what the signal improvements at IL 13 and Giant City Road will be. The phasing has always been weird at the light anyway, with a Lead/Lag for Left Turn movements from 13 onto Giant City Road. I'd like to see FYAs for Giant City Road traffic. Pretty sure the Double Lefts from 13 to Giant City Road will stay Protected-Only.
I could see Pedestrian signals and striped crosswalks added for walking traffic, especially with the bike/running trail now along 13 between Giant City Road and Reed Station Rd
Hilarious that it's taking IDOT so long to implement FYAs statewide, even on completely new signal installations. You go to Wisconsin and you can hardly escape them. State roads, county roads, even local roads.
Heck, even Indiana has been upgrading their traffic signals to include FYAs for the past 5 years now.
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 26, 2022, 11:15:52 AM
Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.
I think you missed at least one project or something happened to prevent some previous flashing yellow arrow projects posted from letting from being constructed:
* Item 48 from the July 31, 2020 had flashing yellow arrows being installed on IL 15 in Mount Vernon
* I thought there was a previous contract with flashing yellow arrows around Metropolis, but I am not finding it so far.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 26, 2022, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 26, 2022, 11:15:52 AM
Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.
I think you missed at least one project or something happened to prevent some previous flashing yellow arrow projects posted from letting from being constructed:
* Item 48 from the July 31, 2020 had flashing yellow arrows being installed on IL 15 in Mount Vernon
* I thought there was a previous contract with flashing yellow arrows around Metropolis, but I am not finding it so far.
I remember the project in Mount Vernon - I haven't driven around in Mt Vernon in a long while, so that would be one I haven't seen
Last time I went down to the Casino at Metropolis, I don't remember any FYAs
They are across the River in Paducah
There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 26, 2022, 03:36:51 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 26, 2022, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 25, 2022, 11:20:49 PM
List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6a288be4-646f-46f1-98b1-fdfe8967b1d0)
* Item 77 adds flashing yellow arrows to US 45 at Devers Road and the I-24 ramps
* Item 78 has signal modifications and ADA improvements for IL 13 at Giant City Road on the east side of Carbondale
Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.
I'm curious what the signal improvements at IL 13 and Giant City Road will be. The phasing has always been weird at the light anyway, with a Lead/Lag for Left Turn movements from 13 onto Giant City Road. I'd like to see FYAs for Giant City Road traffic. Pretty sure the Double Lefts from 13 to Giant City Road will stay Protected-Only.
I could see Pedestrian signals and striped crosswalks added for walking traffic, especially with the bike/running trail now along 13 between Giant City Road and Reed Station Rd
Hilarious that it's taking IDOT so long to implement FYAs statewide, even on completely new signal installations. You go to Wisconsin and you can hardly escape them. State roads, county roads, even local roads.
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
Per the US 12 thread, they will be working on US 12 north of WI 50: https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/full-project-overview/
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
WisDOT > IDOT
You will never convince me otherwise.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2022, 09:05:17 PM
There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8
This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 27, 2022, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
WisDOT > IDOT
You will never convince me otherwise.
Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?
Quote from: Hobart on March 27, 2022, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2022, 09:05:17 PM
There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8
This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.
Looking more closely, I think in the Street View the work is still in progress. Some of the pedestrian signals are bagged, some signals are dark, some are straight-up missing. And like you said, that old five-segment tower is still there. However, only one thru signal on the side streets could potentially be an oversight. I don't see any indication they added another one to the mast arm.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 27, 2022, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
WisDOT > IDOT
You will never convince me otherwise.
Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?
I actively drive a lot in both Wisconsin and Illinois, on highways and surface streets. I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois. Better navigation, more innovative designs, more consistent standards, less signal slap-happy than Illinois (in my opinion), and other pluses. Are there are some deficient roads in Wisconsin? Yes. But guess what, there's just as many if not more in Illinois. And combined with the other reasons I've already mentioned, I will stand by my statement.
I think we've had this discussion before...
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 25, 2022, 11:20:49 PM
List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/6a288be4-646f-46f1-98b1-fdfe8967b1d0)
* Item 27 is "an interim improvement to address poor pavement condition" with resurfacing along IL 47 on the north side of Yorkville
Interesting. IDOT District 1 will eventually be making an incursion into District 3 from US 30 at the Kane County Line to south of Galena Road to add lanes to IL 47 from Sugar Grove south, where it will meet a similar District 3 project going from Yorkville to the north. This interim pavement repair will help the existing road hold together until, and during, construction. I remember a similar project in Yorkvile just prior to the 4-laning project, and it seemed to help...there was a lot of explaining that was done that the resurfacing didn't replace the add-lanes project, it set the larger project up for success.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: Hobart on March 27, 2022, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2022, 09:05:17 PM
There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8
This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.
Looking more closely, I think in the Street View the work is still in progress. Some of the pedestrian signals are bagged, some signals are dark, some are straight-up missing. And like you said, that old five-segment tower is still there. However, only one thru signal on the side streets could potentially be an oversight. I don't see any indication they added another one to the mast arm.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 27, 2022, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
WisDOT > IDOT
You will never convince me otherwise.
Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?
I actively drive a lot in both Wisconsin and Illinois, on highways and surface streets. I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois. Better navigation, more innovative designs, more consistent standards, less signal slap-happy than Illinois (in my opinion), and other pluses. Are there are some deficient roads in Wisconsin? Yes. But guess what, there's just as many if not more in Illinois. And combined with the other reasons I've already mentioned, I will stand by my statement.
I think we've had this discussion before...
The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin. Just drive down either WIS 31 or WIS32 in Kenosha to see what I mean.
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: Hobart on March 27, 2022, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2022, 09:05:17 PM
There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8
This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.
Looking more closely, I think in the Street View the work is still in progress. Some of the pedestrian signals are bagged, some signals are dark, some are straight-up missing. And like you said, that old five-segment tower is still there. However, only one thru signal on the side streets could potentially be an oversight. I don't see any indication they added another one to the mast arm.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 27, 2022, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 27, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.
WisDOT > IDOT
You will never convince me otherwise.
Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?
I actively drive a lot in both Wisconsin and Illinois, on highways and surface streets. I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois. Better navigation, more innovative designs, more consistent standards, less signal slap-happy than Illinois (in my opinion), and other pluses. Are there are some deficient roads in Wisconsin? Yes. But guess what, there's just as many if not more in Illinois. And combined with the other reasons I've already mentioned, I will stand by my statement.
I think we've had this discussion before...
The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin. Just drive down either WIS 31 or WIS32 in Kenosha to see what I mean.
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
Sweet, they are awarding the flattest highways now.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
Cool, they won an award no one in the general public knows or cares about. Trumpeting that as a measure of Illinois's superiority is like citing a #1 ranking in a BuzzFeed or Forbes article.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
QuoteThe project, one of the first under the bipartisan Rebuild Illinois capital program, fixed one of the state's worst roads quicker, safer and cheaper by closing the work zone to all traffic for nine months instead of using multiple construction seasons.
How is closing a road for reconstruction worthy of an award?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 28, 2022, 09:58:40 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
QuoteThe project, one of the first under the bipartisan Rebuild Illinois capital program, fixed one of the state's worst roads quicker, safer and cheaper by closing the work zone to all traffic for nine months instead of using multiple construction seasons.
How is closing a road for reconstruction worthy of an award?
I'm not sure, but if that is a prereq, I expect INDOT to win the award once the 65/70 North Split reconstruction is done
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 28, 2022, 09:58:40 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
QuoteThe project, one of the first under the bipartisan Rebuild Illinois capital program, fixed one of the state's worst roads quicker, safer and cheaper by closing the work zone to all traffic for nine months instead of using multiple construction seasons.
How is closing a road for reconstruction worthy of an award?
The answer is in that very selection you quoted, and this wasn't the only time IDOT won an award in recent history
https://www.myradiolink.com/2018/09/24/illinois-wins-national-transportation-award/
Can't say the same for WIsDOT.
I want to know more about the ravenous Entenmann's delivery drivers who are terrorizing Illinois.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2022, 12:08:07 AM
I want to know more about the ravenous Entenmann's delivery drivers who are terrorizing Illinois.
6:15AM - FedEx Ground
6:25AM - UPS
6:30AM - All kinds of commercial bakeries delivering bread to WalMart's, Jewel, etc. (Gonella, Flowers, etc.)
7:15AM - Amazon Prime
7:30AM - Entenmanns/Pepperidge Farms
7:40AM - Sysco Food Services, GFS (Gordon Food Services)
7:50AM - Frito Lay
8:00AM - Vending Machine companies
8:30AM - Coca-Cola & Pepsi Distributors
This is what terrorizes the Chicago metro 5 days a week.
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
Is it funny that I knew exactly who created this insanely cherry-picked rebuttal when I read it in the quotes, before my eyes made their way up to the person's username?
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 29, 2022, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php
Is it funny that I knew exactly who created this insanely cherry-picked rebuttal when I read it in the quotes, before my eyes made their way up to the person's username?
Must've been a slow day in between Entenmann's truck driver incursions.
Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.
For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 31, 2022, 11:05:23 AM
Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.
For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.
More accurate to say that Crash has an Illinois superiority complex regarding all things. This spin doctoring is just the tip of a massive iceberg.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois ... less signal slap-happy than Illinois ...
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin.
I'll take
fewer stoplights over
better-timed stoplights any day. And Illinois is definitely signal slap-happy.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:11:02 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois ... less signal slap-happy than Illinois ...
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin.
I'll take fewer stoplights over better-timed stoplights any day. And Illinois is definitely signal slap-happy.
You know what Illinois does do better than Wisconsin?
Being flat.
Not so fast. Here's a photo I took in Illinois. Doesn't look flat to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/MqBnj4w.jpg)
Checkmate.
That's literally as flat as a pancake.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:56:50 PM
That's literally as flat as a pancake.
Similar to a pancake one might find at Denny's?
(https://i.imgflip.com/6aw6es.jpg)
I don't see Wisconsin getting flat highway trophies, obviously it's because they are inferior. :rolleyes:
Quote from: SSOWorld on March 31, 2022, 01:54:38 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/6aw6es.jpg)
Route 1 is mostly but not completely flat, but most of its hills are unexceptional.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 31, 2022, 12:55:47 PM
Not so fast. Here's a photo I took in Illinois. Doesn't look flat to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/MqBnj4w.jpg)
Checkmate.
Looks flat to me.
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 31, 2022, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 31, 2022, 12:55:47 PM
Not so fast. Here's a photo I took in Illinois. Doesn't look flat to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/MqBnj4w.jpg)
Checkmate.
Looks flat to me.
You're only saying that because you are from Indiana. That's almost as bad as being from Wisconsin. I bet you aspire to be an Entenmann's delivery driver.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.
Wrong state but ok
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 31, 2022, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.
Wrong state but ok
If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy. Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 31, 2022, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.
Wrong state but ok
If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy. Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?
Deniers are either from Wisconsin, or Entenmann's truck drivers with an axe to grind.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 31, 2022, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.
Wrong state but ok
If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy. Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?
I am from Illinois and I'm pretty sure I'm still the enemy.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 01, 2022, 02:19:58 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 31, 2022, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
You're only saying that because you are from Indiana.
Wrong state but ok
If you from ain't Illinois then you're the enemy. Haven't you figured out how it works from Crash yet?
Deniers are either from Wisconsin, or Entenmann's truck drivers with an axe to grind.
Three years is a long time to wait for vengeance.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2022, 09:21:35 AM
Three years is a long time to wait for vengeance.
I think you just found the tagline for the action flick written about his life.
COMING THIS FRIDAY...
THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR VENGEANCE
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 01, 2022, 09:32:01 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2022, 09:21:35 AM
Three years is a long time to wait for vengeance.
I think you just found the tagline for the action flick written about his life.
COMING THIS FRIDAY...
THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR VENGEANCE
In a state where everything is flat, one man stands alone against the onslaught of Wisconsinites and Entenmann's drivers...
"The dash cam makes everything look further away than it is..."
ILLINOIS IS FLAT
Coming to movie theaters only May 6th, 2022.
THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WAIT FOR VENGEANCE
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 31, 2022, 11:05:23 AM
Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.
For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.
I've never been confused at any junction in IL.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:11:02 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois ... less signal slap-happy than Illinois ...
Quote from: Crash_It on March 28, 2022, 07:51:01 PM
The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin.
I'll take fewer stoplights over better-timed stoplights any day. And Illinois is definitely signal slap-happy.
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 31, 2022, 11:05:23 AM
Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.
For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.
I've never been confused at any junction in IL.
How can you be confused with all that featureless flatness? You can see Entenmann's delivery trucks coming from miles away.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
To add to that, I've found Chicago's freeway network to have the worst traffic jams in the country. When I lived in downtown I found it easier to use surface streets (stop lights included) to get anywhere in the city the majority of daylight hours. Everyone pretty much dog piles onto the antiquated and overburdened free expressways.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 03, 2022, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
To add to that, I've found Chicago's freeway network to have the worst traffic jams in the country. When I lived in downtown I found it easier to use surface streets (stop lights included) to get anywhere in the city the majority of daylight hours. Everyone pretty much dog piles onto the antiquated and overburdened free expressways.
I found the opposite in Atlanta. Why? Because there wasn't an easy grid style local street system to get around the mess on the expressways.
In fact in my last Atlanta backup, it came to a complete halt and everyone got out of their cars and started talking to each other.
As for Chicago? Yes, I can't tell you how many times I would get off at Western and use Roosevelt instead of the Ike. It got so bad for awhile I was on a first name basis with Jennifer Keiper @ WBBM Traffic.
She went to Fox News Radio for awhile and is now a staff reporter for CBS News.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer). Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer). Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
I have travelled during rush hour in both cities pretty extensively. Milwaukee's are mild and a short length of time. Chicago's are awful. LA was worse however.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 03, 2022, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer). Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
I have travelled during rush hour in both cities pretty extensively. Milwaukee's are mild and a short length of time. Chicago's are awful. LA was worse however.
The problem Los Angeles has over longer developed cities like Chicago is distance of travel. In Chicago even places like O'Hate aren't exactly "far" by West Coast city standards to downtown. I-405 as example is 72 miles long, it can be a really long haul to get anywhere even if the traffic is just the "slow down" variety. FWIW I feel as though the San Francisco Bay Area is a closer analog to Chicagoland. The Bay Area is compact and doesn't have a ton of options for limited access roadways much like Chicago. Surface road travel over San Francisco Bay just isn't a thing.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
What do we all get if you're wrong?
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 04, 2022, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
What do we all get if you're wrong?
A box of Entenmann's from the display case at the end of the aisle.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer). Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
Like hell it will. The Circle has sucked, sucked, and will suck even with the rebuild. Funny that you call I-894 in bad condition when I saw multiple vehicles with flat tires due to potholes on the shoulder of I-55 between Weber and US-30 Friday evening. I-894 is damn smooth compared to that POS.
Quote from: Brandon on April 04, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
I saw multiple vehicles with flat tires due to potholes on the shoulder of I-55 between Weber and US-30 Friday evening.
Those flats were actually due to overinflation.
Quote from: Brandon on April 04, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 03, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 02, 2022, 11:41:18 PM
WIS32 and WIS31 are both STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
You do realize these are urban surface arterials, right? I don't expect to drive on those kinds of roads without having a few red lights. I mean, just by the frequency of lights, Chicago is STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP too. The freeways in Chicago are also STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP, which is even more aggravating. Milwaukee at least spends money to improve theirs in ways that makes theirs suck less than Chicago's.
Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer). Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
Like hell it will. The Circle has sucked, sucked, and will suck even with the rebuild. Funny that you call I-894 in bad condition when I saw multiple vehicles with flat tires due to potholes on the shoulder of I-55 between Weber and US-30 Friday evening. I-894 is damn smooth compared to that POS.
How will it suck? The through lanes will be separated from the exits and onramps which were known choking points. It'll probably still be a bit backed up but not as bad as it is now. Every major city has backups especially in it's business district. That section of 55 will be resurfaced this year, don't know if WI is planning the same for 894.
Crash_It - here is your offical source of information for project (https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/default.aspx). if you don't want to believe the truth, fine. Don't impose your false theories and road rage on us unless you have credible sources to back it up.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 04, 2022, 10:43:52 PM
That section of 55 will be resurfaced this year, don't know if WI is planning the same for 894.
43/894 resurfacing scheduled for next year.
https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/894-43/default.aspx (https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/se/894-43/default.aspx)
Quote from: Brandon on April 04, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 03, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Says the person from a state that also has traffic backups in it's major cities as well (experienced that first hand last summer). Milwaukee has traffic backup as well too and that's also with 41/894 in bad condition. Guess you haven't seen the progress of the Jane Byrne interchange. When it's completed this fall, it'll relieve most of if not all of the congestion.
Like hell it will. The Circle has sucked, sucked, and will suck even with the rebuild. Funny that you call I-894 in bad condition when I saw multiple vehicles with flat tires due to potholes on the shoulder of I-55 between Weber and US-30 Friday evening. I-894 is damn smooth compared to that POS.
To add to this, everyone at my job was late to work yesterday, because most of the eastbound carriageway of I-80 across the Des Plaines River was closed for emergency repairs. Nobody could move for a while.
Also yes, I-55 is slated for a resurfacing from I-80 to Weber Road this year. Some signs and barricades are already starting to appear. I worry, though, that the resurfacing might not be enough given the extensive damage.
Doesn't matter what you do to the Circle Interchange it's still going to suck. Chicago traffic sucks.
So, very dumb question that's rather tightly related to the thread.
How often does IDOT normally drop bid announcements? Is there a recurring schedule or something, or is it random?
Quote from: Hobart on April 24, 2022, 02:23:28 PM
So, very dumb question that's rather tightly related to the thread.
How often does IDOT normally drop bid announcements? Is there a recurring schedule or something, or is it random?
Based on
Revive 755's consistent postings, it seems like they drop about every other month, but not exactly on the same date.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 24, 2022, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: Hobart on April 24, 2022, 02:23:28 PM
So, very dumb question that's rather tightly related to the thread.
How often does IDOT normally drop bid announcements? Is there a recurring schedule or something, or is it random?
Based on Revive 755's consistent postings, it seems like they drop about every other month, but not exactly on the same date.
January, March, April, June, end of June/beginning of August, September and November are the usual bid letting months. There are occasional special lettings with a few items on them.
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Quote from: Hobart on April 24, 2022, 02:23:28 PM
So, very dumb question that's rather tightly related to the thread.
How often does IDOT normally drop bid announcements? Is there a recurring schedule or something, or is it random?
The schedules available at https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingSchedule?page=1 (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingSchedule?page=1).
List of projects for the June 17, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/47e17f06-726a-42d4-8b61-3be2d42f059e)
* Item 5 appears to be bridge deck work at the US 41 interchange with Washington Street near Gurnee
* Item 6 is expansion join and approach slab work for I-290 at IL 83
* Item 15 is intersection improvements for US 30 at Emerson Road in Whiteside County (https://goo.gl/maps/toG17sGhLmXQSfrAA)
* Item 19 is a bunch of traffic signal cabinet work at intersections with a railroad interconnect in District 2
* Item 36 has 36.2 miles of patching and shoulder work for I-39 in LaSalle County
* Item 54 is light pole replacement and new LED luminaires at the Prospect Street and Neil Avenue interchange with I-74 in Champaign
* Item 75 is traffic signal work at six intersections with railroad interconnects in District 7
* Item 84 is traffic signal modernization for two intersections on IL 157 in Cahokia and three intersections on IL 3 in Alton and Wood River
* Item 89 is some sort of intersection improvements "at the IL 13 / 127" with resurfacing to the railroad overpass at the south edge of Pickneyville
* Item 97 appears to be cabinet replacement for traffic signals with a railroad interconnect "in Carbondale, Herrin and Anna."
* Item 110 (already deleted) looks like it might have been setting up temporary staging for future work on I-80 "from E of Ridge Road to E of River Road in Villages of Minooka and Shorewood and Troy Township
* Item 137 is traffic signal work along Troy Road (Old IL 159) from IL 159 to Montclaire Avenue in Glen Carbon and Edwardsville
* Item 188 improves the I-55 interchange with US 52
* Item 205 is a trombone mast arm replacement project for various locations in Cook and DuPage Counties.
* Item 206 is an intersection project for IL 50 at Armour Road in the Kankakee area (https://goo.gl/maps/MpuEW7TemdbHcJTv9)
* Item 208 seems to be a mix of bridge replacements, bridge patching, and pavement patching for I-80 through Joliet.
* Item 209 seems to be improvements around the Rand Road - Central Road - Mount Prospect Road triangle in Mount Prospect
* Item 220 appears to be a rebid of rehabbing equipment for the Kennedy Expressway reversible lanes
* Item 227 is adding right turn lanes at the IL 3 intersection with Queeny Avenue in Sauget (https://goo.gl/maps/AtgTeKiaSeMPsJCcA)
* Item 232 appears to be adding auxiliary lanes and more work for redoing the IL 59 interchange on I-55
Item 152 looks to be adding weight in motion to southbound I39 just south of Illinois 64. I wonder if that may lead to upgrades of the old truck pull off into an inspection area? Seems like a truck could requested to pull off after the WIM at the old pull off.
Item 52, the work the intersection of US 30 and Emerson Rd (Old Lincoln Highway) is waaay overdue. It was the scene of a controversial accident, where a sheriff's deputy, turned in front of an oncoming motorcyclist. Killed the cyclist. Cop didn't have his lights on. The cop was EB on 30, and used the WB Emerson Rd turning lane, which is a very obtuse angle. Yes, it's using the opposing lane and illegal, at least for non-law enforcement types. It straightens the turn, providing no oncoming traffic from both roads. A "Do Not Enter" sign was not posted to protect the lane UNTIL after the accident. As it is, It would have been nice for the new construction to have a merging lane onto WB 30 so that the right-hand turning traffic doesn't have to come to a complete stop. This is the main route from Sterling to Morrison and Clinton. Shaving a minute off would have been great.
Quote from: PickupMan on May 14, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Item 52, the work the intersection of US 30 and Emerson Rd (Old Lincoln Highway) is waaay overdue. It was the scene of a controversial accident, where a sheriff's deputy, turned in front of an oncoming motorcyclist. Killed the cyclist. Cop didn't have his lights on. The cop was EB on 30, and used the WB Emerson Rd turning lane, which is a very obtuse angle. Yes, it's using the opposing lane and illegal, at least for non-law enforcement types. It straightens the turn, providing no oncoming traffic from both roads. A "Do Not Enter" sign was not posted to protect the lane UNTIL after the accident. As it is, It would have been nice for the new construction to have a merging lane onto WB 30 so that the right-hand turning traffic doesn't have to come to a complete stop. This is the main route from Sterling to Morrison and Clinton. Shaving a minute off would have been great.
It's now listed as item 15, I believe, and for others who are curious, the location is here (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7911504,-89.8116218,72m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en).
When the 4 lane EIS was dropped a report unmade some suggestions. This intersection was one as we're some improvements in Morrison and passing lanes of volume increases. Btw similar to what Iowa concluded.
Item 1 calls for resurfacing and shoulders for Shermer Rd in Northbrook and Glenview. I'm not sure why IDOT still maintains that section of road, I really think it should be turned over to local control, but this is sorely overdue. That road segment has lots of truck traffic, including trucks that sit off to the side on the shoulder which can make passage tight. Combined with the lack/degradation of shoulders, this road felt very insufficient. Happy to see it will finally be given some proper attention.
Item 209 will be a doozy, nasty intersection during rush hour
Workers who make materials for highway projects in Illinois are going on strike.
https://local150.org/mpstrike/
Apparently there is an additional letting this year scheduled for July 15 (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/93d75f51-61e3-484d-a2ec-2a1817d8bf31). Of note:
* Item 1 is replacement of the I-270 Chain of Rocks Main Channel Bridge.
* Item 3 is resurfacing and related work for US 20 in Marengo
* Item 7 is bridge beam repairs for IL 171 near I-55
* Item 11 is lighting work for the I-80/IL 47 interchange
List of projects for the August 5, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/55c239bc-6048-4504-810a-bfb61558bc45)
* Item 4 is reconstruction of Bell Road from 159th to 151st.
* Item 20 signalizes the VFW Road/14th Street intersection on the south side of Pekin. (https://goo.gl/maps/mpXBrJzt845Bs7jVA)
* Item 32: "Installation of dynamic message signs on I-270 at the Chain of Rocks Canal Bridge and on IL 255 north of I-270."
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2022, 10:53:12 PM
List of projects for the August 5, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/55c239bc-6048-4504-810a-bfb61558bc45)
* Item 4 is reconstruction of Bell Road from 159th to 151st.
* Item 20 signalizes the VFW Road/14th Street intersection on the south side of Pekin. (https://goo.gl/maps/mpXBrJzt845Bs7jVA)
* Item 32: "Installation of dynamic message signs on I-270 at the Chain of Rocks Canal Bridge and on IL 255 north of I-270."
Bell Road is a state highway?
Quote from: Hobart on July 10, 2022, 09:48:18 PM
Bell Road is a state highway?
Based on https://www.willcountyillinois.com/Portals/0/GIS/Interest%20Maps/Street%20Maps/MAJOR_ROADS_B.pdf (https://www.willcountyillinois.com/Portals/0/GIS/Interest%20Maps/Street%20Maps/MAJOR_ROADS_B.pdf) Bell Road is a county roadway.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2022, 10:53:12 PM
List of projects for the August 5, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/55c239bc-6048-4504-810a-bfb61558bc45)
* Item 4 is reconstruction of Bell Road from 159th to 151st.
* Item 20 signalizes the VFW Road/14th Street intersection on the south side of Pekin. (https://goo.gl/maps/mpXBrJzt845Bs7jVA)
All of Bell Road from the 143rd St. area south to IL-7 is slated for reconstruction by way of three separate contracts. It's definitely a Will County highway; the adjoining section in Cook County is also a county highway.
And even though Google doesn't show it, VFW Road now carries Illinois Route 9 as a southern bypass around town. So this intersection could be identified as Illinois Route 9/VFW Road at 14th Street.
Quote from: Hobart on July 10, 2022, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2022, 10:53:12 PM
List of projects for the August 5, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/55c239bc-6048-4504-810a-bfb61558bc45)
* Item 4 is reconstruction of Bell Road from 159th to 151st.
* Item 20 signalizes the VFW Road/14th Street intersection on the south side of Pekin. (https://goo.gl/maps/mpXBrJzt845Bs7jVA)
* Item 32: "Installation of dynamic message signs on I-270 at the Chain of Rocks Canal Bridge and on IL 255 north of I-270."
Bell Road is a state highway?
With the answers above - does Illinois have unnumbered state maintained roads at all? A few states do that...
Quote from: Alps on July 11, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
With the answers above - does Illinois have unnumbered state maintained roads at all? A few states do that...
Illinois has a lot of them-- a lot of them are old alignments of state highways and frontage roads along the expressways. Look at this example map of Will County-- the green lines are state-maintained roads. Note that not all of the green has a numbered designation. Richards Street, Old Chicago Road, New Avenue, Manhattan-Monee Road, and Arsenal Road's western extent are just some examples of state-maintained local roads. I think Bell Road MAY have a state-maintained section further north in Cook County, near IL-171. https://willcountyillinois.com/County-Offices/Economic-Development/Division-of-Transportation/Highway-System-Construction-Projects/FileId/33870
Quote from: Alps on July 11, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
With the answers above - does Illinois have unnumbered state maintained roads at all? A few states do that...
Southern end of the state, but Herrin Rd in Williamson County has the IDOT-standard county mile markers, and "908" as the route# on the markers
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 11, 2022, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Alps on July 11, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
With the answers above - does Illinois have unnumbered state maintained roads at all? A few states do that...
Southern end of the state, but Herrin Rd in Williamson County has the IDOT-standard county mile markers, and "908" as the route# on the markers
Bill Burmaster has a whole page devoted to listing these unsigned state-maintained roads, identified only by their state-issue mile markers. http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/misc/il900.html
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 12, 2022, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 11, 2022, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Alps on July 11, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
With the answers above - does Illinois have unnumbered state maintained roads at all? A few states do that...
Southern end of the state, but Herrin Rd in Williamson County has the IDOT-standard county mile markers, and "908" as the route# on the markers
Bill Burmaster has a whole page devoted to listing these unsigned state-maintained roads, identified only by their state-issue mile markers. http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/misc/il900.html
Okay, but they're numbered. I did ask about unnumbered (:
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 12, 2022, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 11, 2022, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Alps on July 11, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
With the answers above - does Illinois have unnumbered state maintained roads at all? A few states do that...
Southern end of the state, but Herrin Rd in Williamson County has the IDOT-standard county mile markers, and "908" as the route# on the markers
Bill Burmaster has a whole page devoted to listing these unsigned state-maintained roads, identified only by their state-issue mile markers. http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/misc/il900.html
908 is not listed. And yes, I am familiar with that list on billburmaster's site. There are others is my bigger point
These routes are unnumbered in the sense that they are not IL State Route ###. But yes, the reference mile markers have the "number" if you want to look at it that way
There's plenty of other IDOT-maintained roads in Cook County though without any sort of numerical identification. Willow/Palatine Rd, Wolf Rd, Central Rd, Kensington-Foundry Rd, Sheridan Rd, Green Bay Rd (south of the southern terminus of IL-131), and many, many more.
^ Cook County seems to have the greatest number of unnumbered IDOT routes in Chicagoland, with a number of them that change jurisdiction at the county line.
For Lake County, using https://www.lakecountyil.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1171/County-Highway-Map-PDF (https://www.lakecountyil.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1171/County-Highway-Map-PDF)
* Midlothian Road (part of former IL 63)
* Parts of Sheridan Road (part of former IL 42
* Grand Avenue in Waukegan (formerly part of IL 132 yet not fully transferred to Waukegan)
* Belivdere Road in Waukegan (formerly part of IL 120 yet not fully transferred to Waukegan)
* Petersen Road between IL 137 and US 45
* Barrington Road between the southern US 12/IL 59 interchange and IL 176
* Ivanhoe Road between IL 120 and the IL 83 intersection with IL 137
* One of the roads into Illinois Beach State Park
For Kane County, mostly going off of http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Publications/2017-2018%20Hwy%20Map%20UPDATE%20March%202018.pdf (http://kdot.countyofkane.org/Publications/2017-2018%20Hwy%20Map%20UPDATE%20March%202018.pdf).
* McLean Boulevard in South Elgin between IL 31 and Spring Street
* Villa Street in Elgin between IL 25 and the Cook County line (former US 20, then a US 20 auxiliary route)
* It's not shown on the map, but I believe Hill Avenue in the Montgomery/Aurora area is still an unmarked IDOT route between the Kendall County line (and extending to the US 30-US 34 intersection and Montgomery Road (IIRC Hill Avenue was once part of US 30).
For McHenry County using https://www.mchenrycountyil.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/10593/634968763771830000 (https://www.mchenrycountyil.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/10593/634968763771830000)
* Part of Lake Street in southeast Woodstock (probably once part of US 14, I think more of Lake Street was turned over since the map was made).
In Aurora, the intersection of Farnsworth Ave and Indian Trail Rd is having temporary signals installed as of yesterday, July 14th, so they can modernize the signals.
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 15, 2022, 10:46:23 AM
In Aurora, the intersection of Farnsworth Ave and Indian Trail Rd is having temporary signals installed as of yesterday, July 14th, so they can modernize the signals.
Based on Pages 58/124 and 60/124 of https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply), the temp signal appears to be more for reconstruction the bridge on Farnsworth north of Indian Trail than for a modernization.
In regards to signal modernizations in Aurora, per https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan (https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan) it look like Aurora may be the first city to start using flashing yellow arrows in the Illinois portion of the Chicago region.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 15, 2022, 11:30:03 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 15, 2022, 10:46:23 AM
In Aurora, the intersection of Farnsworth Ave and Indian Trail Rd is having temporary signals installed as of yesterday, July 14th, so they can modernize the signals.
Based on Pages 58/124 and 60/124 of https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply), the temp signal appears to be more for reconstruction the bridge on Farnsworth north of Indian Trail than for a modernization.
In regards to signal modernizations in Aurora, per https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan (https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan) it look like Aurora may be the first city to start using flashing yellow arrows in the Illinois portion of the Chicago region.
The flashing yellow arrows have been in place on Orchard Rd from Illinois Ave to I-88 in Aurora and Randall Rd through Batavia up into Elgin for about a year now.
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 18, 2022, 12:01:09 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 15, 2022, 11:30:03 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 15, 2022, 10:46:23 AM
In Aurora, the intersection of Farnsworth Ave and Indian Trail Rd is having temporary signals installed as of yesterday, July 14th, so they can modernize the signals.
Based on Pages 58/124 and 60/124 of https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply), the temp signal appears to be more for reconstruction the bridge on Farnsworth north of Indian Trail than for a modernization.
In regards to signal modernizations in Aurora, per https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan (https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan) it look like Aurora may be the first city to start using flashing yellow arrows in the Illinois portion of the Chicago region.
The flashing yellow arrows have been in place on Orchard Rd from Illinois Ave to I-88 in Aurora and Randall Rd through Batavia up into Elgin for about a year now.
Those are all Kane County Division of Transportation installations. These bids being let appear to be the first IDOT District 1 installations.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 15, 2022, 11:30:03 PM
Based on Pages 58/124 and 60/124 of https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9615.400#quickreply), the temp signal appears to be more for reconstruction the bridge on Farnsworth north of Indian Trail than for a modernization.
In regards to signal modernizations in Aurora, per https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan (https://www.aurora-il.org/2365/Indian-Trail-from-Edgelawn-Dr-to-Highlan) it look like Aurora may be the first city to start using flashing yellow arrows in the Illinois portion of the Chicago region.
The word "city" should be emphasized. Though this is posted on the state website, this is a municipal project (after all, Indian Trail Rd. is a municipal street).
If you look on the page, it says "federal funds will be used for construction". You could discern this by the fact that the project is posted for bidding on the IDOT website. Any project on a municipal or county level that utilizes a
high enough proportion of federal funding has to be bid through the state system; that's why we're seeing it listed on IDOT's page and broadcasting it in this thread. Funding will probably come from a combination of municipal and federal sources (Aurora surely gets an allotment of the state's motor fuel tax money, too). You may see the funding sources broken down by pay item in a schedule of quantities in the project plans, even.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 18, 2022, 07:54:29 PM
Though this is posted on the state website, this is a municipal project (after all, Indian Trail Rd. is a municipal street).
If you look on the page, it says "federal funds will be used for construction". You could discern this by the fact that the project is posted for bidding on the IDOT website. Any project on a municipal or county level that utilized federal funding has to be bid through the state system; that's why we're seeing it listed on IDOT's page and broadcasting it in this thread.
I think there are a few exceptions to federal projects having to be state-let. I can't recall seeing anything lead by Cook County on the IDOT lettings, and maybe only one project where Chicago was the lead.
I edited my original post. I think it has to do with the proportion of funding that's federally-sourced.
List of projects for the September 23, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a46794d1-5684-4403-a375-673e5e9c7fa3)
* Item 1: "4.686 miles Advance Tree Removal at I-39/US20 System Interchange"
* Item 8 is resurfacing on I-280 from east of IL 92 to near the overpass for the Milan Beltway.
* Item 13 is sidewak and lighting work on Business 55 from Sangamon Avenue to Ardmore Avenue in the Springfield area.
* Item 17 is intersection improvements for the IL 59 intersection with Joliet Street and Edgewood Walk (http://4.686%20miles%20advance%20tree%20removal%20at%20i-39/US20%20System%20Interchange) and the IL 59 intersection with James Avenue (https://goo.gl/maps/DdENuAhWnrxLnm2G7) in West Chicago.
* Item 52 is supposedly for a traffic signal installation and crosswalk improvements where Montgomery Road crosses the Virgil Gilman Trail in Montgomery (https://goo.gl/maps/HCYQA378CKysLrqV8), but I'm only see an RRFB in the pay item listing.
* Item 53 reconstruction IL 71 from around IL 126 to Orchard Road.
* Item 54 reconstruction Hobbie Avenue between IL 17 and IL 50 in Kankakee.
* Item 61 is lighting work for the Edens Expressway between Lincoln Avenue and Lake Cook Road.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 19, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
* Item 1: "4.686 miles Advance Tree Removal at I-39/US20 System Interchange"
Hmm...I wonder what THIS is in preparation for? Interchange reconfiguration?
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 19, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
* Item 53 reconstruction IL 71 from around IL 126 to Orchard Road.
Fun fact: I used to work for IDOT as a summer help between years of college. In summer 2010, I was tasked to join a resident engineer on a reconstruction and widening in this same stretch of IL-71. The project got shelved or scrapped, so I drove around with this guy doing nothing for a few weeks as we waited for an answer on whether the project would get started. The project was scrapped so I was reassigned somewhere else. Now a reconstruction and widening project has been let yet again for this stretch of IL-71; let's hope it gets constructed this time, 13+ years later!
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 19, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
List of projects for the September 23, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a46794d1-5684-4403-a375-673e5e9c7fa3)
* Item 61 is lighting work for the Edens Expressway between Lincoln Avenue and Lake Cook Road.
This is minor but I wonder if we'll get new mile markers for this section. The current ones are these old stickers on the existing light poles on the median, many of which are peeling or completely gone. If they're replacing the poles, then surely they'll have to install new mile markers of some kind.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 20, 2022, 12:48:06 AM
Fun fact: I used to work for IDOT as a summer help between years of college. In summer 2010, I was tasked to join a resident engineer on a reconstruction and widening in this same stretch of IL-71. The project got shelved or scrapped, so I drove around with this guy doing nothing for a few weeks as we waited for an answer on whether the project would get started. The project was scrapped so I was reassigned somewhere else. Now a reconstruction and widening project has been let yet again for this stretch of IL-71; let's hope it gets constructed this time, 13+ years later!
I was at IDOT District 3 until 2009. The entire stretch of IL 71 from IL 47 to Orchard was studied as one piece in planning, but it was broken into two projects at one point due to a lack of funding, and the short stretch from IL 47 to IL 126 got redone first. The Rebuild Illinois bond program allowed the second stretch from IL 126 to Orchard to go to construction. When this project is completed, the major projects in the area will be to add lanes to IL 47 at the south end and north end of Yorkville to eliminate the bottlenecks between adjacent 4-lane sections. Both sections will have some challenges - the south section will need to rebuild the IL 71/47 intersection under traffic and the north section will need to rebuild a BNSF underpass that will add a 3rd track.
I did notice that IDOT also added a substantial IL 126 project to the new Multi-Year program.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 20, 2022, 07:22:04 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 19, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
List of projects for the September 23, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a46794d1-5684-4403-a375-673e5e9c7fa3)
* Item 61 is lighting work for the Edens Expressway between Lincoln Avenue and Lake Cook Road.
This is minor but I wonder if we'll get new mile markers for this section. The current ones are these old stickers on the existing light poles on the median, many of which are peeling or completely gone. If they're replacing the poles, then surely they'll have to install new mile markers of some kind.
Sadly, I used to like having those mile markers on the poles, it was an effective way, IMO, of making two uses of the materials. Another thought on this, and that is if they are intending on replacing the poles, I really hope they don't plan to switch to the davit style (i.e. candy cane poles) that has been popping up increasingly throughout D1. I always appreciated the classic aluminum truss style in Illinois, and the other style makes it look less like something in Illinois and more like Minnesota (nothing against Minnesota, but I just prefer Illinois stick with its classic style). I'm hoping that maybe they're just planning to replace the luminares with LED lamps.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 20, 2022, 07:22:04 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 19, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
List of projects for the September 23, 2022 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/a46794d1-5684-4403-a375-673e5e9c7fa3)
* Item 61 is lighting work for the Edens Expressway between Lincoln Avenue and Lake Cook Road.
This is minor but I wonder if we'll get new mile markers for this section. The current ones are these old stickers on the existing light poles on the median, many of which are peeling or completely gone. If they're replacing the poles, then surely they'll have to install new mile markers of some kind.
There's a pay item listed called 'Mile Post Maker Assembly (Special) with a quantity of 22.
EDIT: The plans have been posted - they have the enhanced milemarkers used elsewhere in Illinois.
List of projects for the November 18, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/84ca6f37-bdf0-40f7-a045-534d96cb1d1f)
* Item 2 appears to be an advance staging contract for I-80 from east of Ridge Road to east of River Road around Minooka.
* Item 6 replaces the Wheeler Avenue bridge over I-80 in the Joliet area.
* Item 27 rehabs and repaints the IL 17 bridge over the Illinois River.
* Item 28 appears to be a bridge rehab for IL 40 over the Illinois River.
* Item 47 is bridge repairs for US 51 over I-70.
* Item 63 replaces the Shepley Road bridge over I-80.
* Item 67 replaces the Perryville Road bridge over I-39 in the Rockford area.
* Item 81 replaces the Washington Street bridge in downtown Naperville.
* Item 101: "Reconstruction and widening of Laraway Road between Jackson Branch Creek and Cedar Road" in Will County.
* Item 107 reconstructs Stanford Avenue on the south side of Springfield between 11th Street and Fox Bridge Road.
* Item 108 is some sort of relocation of Lebanon Road in Madison County.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 17, 2022, 10:37:17 PM
List of projects for the November 18, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/84ca6f37-bdf0-40f7-a045-534d96cb1d1f)
* Item 101: "Reconstruction and widening of Laraway Road between Jackson Branch Creek and Cedar Road" in Will County.
A large amount of Laraway Road is slated for widening projects in the coming 5-10 years. The first piece of this massive slew of widening is wrapping right now, with the intersection project centered on Cedar and Laraway Roads. It looks like the piece adjoining that to the west might be next to be built.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 18, 2022, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 17, 2022, 10:37:17 PM
List of projects for the November 18, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/84ca6f37-bdf0-40f7-a045-534d96cb1d1f)
* Item 101: "Reconstruction and widening of Laraway Road between Jackson Branch Creek and Cedar Road" in Will County.
A large amount of Laraway Road is slated for widening projects in the coming 5-10 years. The first piece of this massive slew of widening is wrapping right now, with the intersection project centered on Cedar and Laraway Roads. It looks like the piece adjoining that to the west might be next to be built.
Still seems crazy to me. I grew up 1½ blocks from Cedar Road as a young child, and I remember when Cedar/Laraway was an intersection of two farm roads.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 17, 2022, 10:37:17 PM
List of projects for the November 18, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/84ca6f37-bdf0-40f7-a045-534d96cb1d1f)
* Item 81 replaces the Washington Street bridge in downtown Naperville.
It is already underway. Washington is down to one lane in each direction over the DuPage River.
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 18, 2022, 09:39:02 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 17, 2022, 10:37:17 PM
List of projects for the November 18, 2022 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/84ca6f37-bdf0-40f7-a045-534d96cb1d1f)
* Item 81 replaces the Washington Street bridge in downtown Naperville.
It is already underway. Washington is down to one lane in each direction over the DuPage River.
Those lane closures are due to the condition of the current bridge, see https://www.naperville.il.us/projects-in-naperville/downtown-washington-street-bridge-replacement-project/ (https://www.naperville.il.us/projects-in-naperville/downtown-washington-street-bridge-replacement-project/)
List of projects for the January 20, 2023 Letting is up (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/99f15991-4050-4117-960e-b012f888a553). Of note:
* Item 1 is bridge work for IL 53 between St. Charles Road and IL 64/North Avenue.
* Item 44 is a resurfacing of York Road in Elmhurst with some sort of intersection improvements at the intersection with Belden Avenue and Industrial Drive.
* Item 47 is intersection work for Park at Devon and Park at Pierce in Itasca.
* Item 62 (already deleted) looks like it would have been some sort of reconstruction for US 40 through Effingham.
* Item 82 adds a high friction surface treatment for eastbound I-290 near I-88, the WB I-290 to EB I-90 ramp, and the WB I-90 to NB IL 53 ramp.
* Item 93 is deck patch and joint work for the ramp from WB I-290 to SB I-355.
* Item 104: "10.8 miles of reconstruction/rehabilitation on I-64 from 0.3 miles east of Shiloh Road to just east of the Washington County line."
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
* Item 124 adds a new roundabout at a "4-way intersection" somewhere along Wolf's Crossing Road in Kendall County.
* Item 130 converts the National Parkway - American Lane intersection in Schaumburg to a roundabout, along with reconstruction of National Parkway up to Golf Road.
* Item 136 reconstructs Old Galena Road from IL 29 to Neal Lane in Peoria County, with a small gap within those limits.
* Item 137: "Reconstruct North Buchanan Street from East Union Street to Hillsboro Avenue in Edwaardsville."
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 09, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
Coincidentally, this extension connects Granart Road to Dauberman Road, and follows some of the defunct Prairie Parkway corridor.
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 13, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 09, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
Coincidentally, this extension connects Granart Road to Dauberman Road, and follows some of the defunct Prairie Parkway corridor.
Too funny. The PP was blasted for promoting sprawl. Now it appears the sprawl is getting closer without it.
Did IDOT dispose of the property they acquired under Hastert's budgets?
Quote from: edwaleni on December 13, 2022, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 13, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 09, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
Coincidentally, this extension connects Granart Road to Dauberman Road, and follows some of the defunct Prairie Parkway corridor.
Too funny. The PP was blasted for promoting sprawl. Now it appears the sprawl is getting closer without it.
Did IDOT dispose of the property they acquired under Hastert's budgets?
Not too much "sprawl" where the improvement is going, but it is amusing to see several thousand cars a day on a country road in a fairly sparsely populated area, carrying commuters from the Sandwich/Plano/Somonauk area east to their jobs in Kane, Cook and DuPage counties. The new route will probably reduce the amount of traffic using the roundabout and a busy RR grade crossing at the east end of Granart. Not sure if there has been any movement to sell the acquired PP land which is mostly agricultural, but there is some frontage along US 34 that is vacant but zoned commercial and residential.
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 14, 2022, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on December 13, 2022, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 13, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 09, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
Coincidentally, this extension connects Granart Road to Dauberman Road, and follows some of the defunct Prairie Parkway corridor.
Too funny. The PP was blasted for promoting sprawl. Now it appears the sprawl is getting closer without it.
Did IDOT dispose of the property they acquired under Hastert's budgets?
Not too much "sprawl" where the improvement is going, but it is amusing to see several thousand cars a day on a country road in a fairly sparsely populated area, carrying commuters from the Sandwich/Plano/Somonauk area east to their jobs in Kane, Cook and DuPage counties. The new route will probably reduce the amount of traffic using the roundabout and a busy RR grade crossing at the east end of Granart. Not sure if there has been any movement to sell the acquired PP land which is mostly agricultural, but there is some frontage along US 34 that is vacant but zoned commercial and residential.
If they are successful in pushing Metra down US-34 past Plano, the you can almost guarantee there will be population swing. Just look at Elburn, Ilinois since they extended Metra out there.
Quote from: edwaleni on December 13, 2022, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 13, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 09, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
Coincidentally, this extension connects Granart Road to Dauberman Road, and follows some of the defunct Prairie Parkway corridor.
Too funny. The PP was blasted for promoting sprawl. Now it appears the sprawl is getting closer without it.
Did IDOT dispose of the property they acquired under Hastert's budgets?
That's because growth will happen whether the roads are there or not. May I present to you Exhibit A: western Lake County. IL-53 has never been extended, but the area grew by a tremendous amount.
Quote from: Brandon on January 02, 2023, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on December 13, 2022, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 13, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 09, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
* Item 105 appears to be an extension of Dauberman Road in Kane County with new bridges over US 30 and the nearby railroad.
Coincidentally, this extension connects Granart Road to Dauberman Road, and follows some of the defunct Prairie Parkway corridor.
Too funny. The PP was blasted for promoting sprawl. Now it appears the sprawl is getting closer without it.
Did IDOT dispose of the property they acquired under Hastert's budgets?
That's because growth will happen whether the roads are there or not. May I present to you Exhibit A: western Lake County. IL-53 has never been extended, but the area grew by a tremendous amount.
That is a sore subject in many a thread. I do remember the "sprawl" argument being made in the late 1970's. Here we are 40 years later and the very towns who complained about sprawl, annexed and developed all the land surrounding and right up to the ROW. Just a complete non-sequitur. But I will leave that for the dedicated thread. I agree, 53 is Exhibit A.
Not a bid announcement, but IDOT is soliciting engineering proposals for construction inspection of several sections of I-80 in the Joliet area, and the new Florence Bridge on IL 100/106 in western IL.
https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Bulletins-&-Circulars/Highways/Design-and-Environment/ptb-207/PTB-207.pdf
Quote from: Rick Powell on February 02, 2023, 09:55:56 PM
Not a bid announcement, but IDOT is soliciting engineering proposals for construction inspection of several sections of I-80 in the Joliet area, and the new Florence Bridge on IL 100/106 in western IL.
https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Bulletins-&-Circulars/Highways/Design-and-Environment/ptb-207/PTB-207.pdf
This would be a post construction inspection, to make sure it was built to spec? or a "in-process" inspection to make sure the materials used are supplied to spec?
Sorry I didn't read the bid.
Quote from: edwaleni on February 02, 2023, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on February 02, 2023, 09:55:56 PM
Not a bid announcement, but IDOT is soliciting engineering proposals for construction inspection of several sections of I-80 in the Joliet area, and the new Florence Bridge on IL 100/106 in western IL.
https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Bulletins-&-Circulars/Highways/Design-and-Environment/ptb-207/PTB-207.pdf
This would be a post construction inspection, to make sure it was built to spec? or a "in-process" inspection to make sure the materials used are supplied to spec?
Sorry I didn't read the bid.
Construction inspection and management from start to finish of project, overseeing the general contractor that IDOT hires after the successful low bid. Years ago, IDOT did this work in-house but have now migrated to having a few IDOT field people on the project, with the majority of field inspection/management personnel contracted out.
List of projects for the March 10, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/dc8214c3-9e50-4b24-86b4-ee1aa8d59d87)
* Item 1 (already deleted) would have been a roundabout for the IL 40 intersection with Science Ridge Road north of Sterling.
* Item 39: "Intersection widening and resurfacing at 3 locations: IL 154 at Water Street in Pinckneyville, IL 127/149 at North 4th Street in Murphysboro and IL 13/127/149 at North Street in Murphysboro"
* Item 56 is intersection improvements for the 183rd Street - Central Avenue intersection in Tinley Park
* Item 63 is an intersection widening project on IL 19 in Schaumburg and Hanover Park - IL 19 at Wise perhaps?
* Item 64 is signal modernization at a few intersections along IL 50/IL 83 through Crestwood
* Item 78 is intersection reconstruction for the Touhy Avenue intersection with Gross Point Road in Niles.
* Item 84 appears to be an intersection project somewhere on US 41 in Wilmette.
* Item 114 does a little resurfacing on I-55 around IL 54 and on IL 54 in the Springfield area.
* Item 120 reconstructs Wood Street in Harvey and Dixmoor from 161st Street to Thornton Road
* Item 122 is intersection improvements for IL 60 at Lakeview Parkway and Lakeview Parkway at Hawthorn Parkway in Vernon Hills
* Item 124 replaces the Briggs Street overpass on I-80
* Item 147 reconstructs part of US 40 and IL 33 in Effingham
* Item 151 is an extension of Collins Road (https://goo.gl/maps/NubRMRLN1Lj7P3WZA) and some sort of construction of (on?) Minkler Road in Oswego
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 03, 2023, 11:12:43 PM
List of projects for the March 10, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/dc8214c3-9e50-4b24-86b4-ee1aa8d59d87)
* Item 39: "Intersection widening and resurfacing at 3 locations: IL 154 at Water Street in Pinckneyville, IL 127/149 at North 4th Street in Murphysboro and IL 13/127/149 at North Street in Murphysboro"
Last I checked, IL 154
is Water St thru Pinckneyville, at least until the RR underpass. This must be the 154/W Water St intersection just south of the round-about west of town, I think anyway. Adding turn lanes?
North St and 4th St in Murphysboro has to be adding turn lanes. Limits on what can really be added at North St, because it is only accessible to SB 127 traffic. NB was barricaded/separated when the parking lot was built for the new Holiday Inn hotel
Left Turns onto 4th St can and does cause traffic issues for EB traffic.
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 03, 2023, 11:12:43 PM
* Item 78 is intersection reconstruction for the Touhy Avenue intersection with Gross Point Road in Niles.
Long overdue :clap:
I'm sure a lot of these items were much anticipated by many of us, but I'm excited about Items 151 and 124. I grew up in the cluster of neighborhoods north of Collins Road and west of Grove Road...and since the mid-2000s, I've been wondering when they would finally extend Collins Road to the west. The housing crisis in the mid-late 2000s put a kibosh on continued sprawl, and growth hasn't really happened in the area since then.
Many of the bridges over I-80 in Will County are in bad shape. The ones at Briggs Street and Francis Road have had posted weight limits for the past several years. The ones at Gougar Road and 80th Avenue are in awful shape as well--at least the superstructures. Thankfully, 80th Avenue is being reconstructed this year. Francis Road has a posted weight limit of 14 tons anyway, so that bridge isn't high on the priority list. Briggs Street, however, is truck-a-palooza, and needs work ASAP.
They really need to get IL-47 (Bridge Street) sorted out betwen Yorkville all the way to Morris. In fact they should use the land they bought for the Prairie Parkway at I-80 and run essentially a Morris bypass up to IL-47. Put in the ramps south now for the future Morris-Peotone Connector. IL-47 is ahead of the game north of Morris but ends too soon.
Every 25 years IDOT or the local county has had to upgrade a major N-S arterial.
First it was IL-59 in the 1980's between Shorewood to Barrington.
Then it was Randall Road/Orchard Road from Crystal Lake down to Minkler Road in the 2000's.
Next will be IL-47. From Morris all the way to Huntley/Woodstock.
Might as well acquire the ROW land now and build the overpasses. Widen everything later when the strip malls and housing developments start popping in around 2030.
The land at 80? I guess the Minooka Road overpass could eventually accommodate added ramps and be an interchange between Minooka and Brisbin Road. The overhead bridge was built extra wide to accommodate 4 lanes. I don't see any other use of the excess land for a transportation project and most of it will likely eventually be auctioned off.
There is another N-S corridor being developed a piece at a time, the "Wikaduke Trail" from US 6 to Butterfield Road using Ridge, Stewart and Eola Roads which have had added lanes and realignments in several places. There is a recorded centerline connecting Stewart and Eola Roads west of US 30, but other than that the alignment is set and in use, ready to be widened in the future where needed.
I would guess the IL 47 corridor will be a full 4 lanes from 80 to 88 by the early 2030s based on the progress of land acquisition and design plans, which are underway north and south of Yorkville. I think the District 3 portion is ahead of the District 1 portion. The gap between Waubonsee College and 88 might be the last piece done.
West of 47 the Eldamain Road crossing over the Fox River will be opened soon. This is a major piece of a corridor that may one day stretch from a future I-80 interchange at Saratoga Road west of Morris up to Kane County.
Finally, Grundy County and Kendall County have a long range plan to connect and upgrade Brisbin and Grove Roads from I-80 to Oswego as another major N-S route. It will probably be 2 lanes for a long time.
Quote from: Rick Powell on February 08, 2023, 11:02:31 PM
The land at 80? I guess the Minooka Road overpass could eventually accommodate added ramps and be an interchange between Minooka and Brisbin Road. The overhead bridge was built extra wide to accommodate 4 lanes. I don't see any other use of the excess land for a transportation project and most of it will likely eventually be auctioned off.
There is another N-S corridor being developed a piece at a time, the "Wikaduke Trail" from US 6 to Butterfield Road using Ridge, Stewart and Eola Roads which have had added lanes and realignments in several places. There is a recorded centerline connecting Stewart and Eola Roads west of US 30, but other than that the alignment is set and in use, ready to be widened in the future where needed.
I would guess the IL 47 corridor will be a full 4 lanes from 80 to 88 by the early 2030s based on the progress of land acquisition and design plans, which are underway north and south of Yorkville. I think the District 3 portion is ahead of the District 1 portion. The gap between Waubonsee College and 88 might be the last piece done.
West of 47 the Eldamain Road crossing over the Fox River will be opened soon. This is a major piece of a corridor that may one day stretch from a future I-80 interchange at Saratoga Road west of Morris up to Kane County.
Finally, Grundy County and Kendall County have a long range plan to connect and upgrade Brisbin and Grove Roads from I-80 to Oswego as another major N-S route. It will probably be 2 lanes for a long time.
I was under the impression that IDOT owns the land where the Prairie Parkway was to intersect with I-80 east of Morris. Is this no longer the case?
Quote from: edwaleni on February 09, 2023, 11:16:59 AM
I was under the impression that IDOT owns the land where the Prairie Parkway was to intersect with I-80 east of Morris. Is this no longer the case?
I thought IDOT still owned the acreage for the planned I-80 Prairie Parkway interchange, but using the Grundy County GIS viewer, all the land appears to be on the tax rolls as private property. Mostly owned by Central Land Management. I looked up the tax info for some of the larger parcels and they show taxes being paid, which would indicate the land is no longer in state ownership. On the other hand, the parcels bought by IDOT from the Fox River to north of US 34, including the planned interchange at US 34, are clearly still state owned from the Kendall County GIS viewer.
IDOT still has its corridor map up, even though the corridor protection has been removed. From a 2017 public hearing on the corridor. Note that the planned I-80 interchange was strictly system to system with no local connection or south extension provided for. https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/IDOT-Projects/District-3/Prarie-Parkway-Corridor/files/110217PH/Aerial%20Exhibit%201%20(I-80%20-%20Church%20Rd).pdf
Edits: additional details from research
Quote from: Rick Powell on February 09, 2023, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on February 09, 2023, 11:16:59 AM
I was under the impression that IDOT owns the land where the Prairie Parkway was to intersect with I-80 east of Morris. Is this no longer the case?
I thought IDOT still owned the acreage for the planned I-80 Prairie Parkway interchange, but using the Grundy County GIS viewer, all the land appears to be on the tax rolls as private property. Mostly owned by Central Land Management. I looked up the tax info for some of the larger parcels and they show taxes being paid, which would indicate the land is no longer in state ownership. On the other hand, the parcels bought by IDOT from the Fox River to north of US 34, including the planned interchange at US 34, are clearly still state owned from the Kendall County GIS viewer.
IDOT still has its corridor map up, even though the corridor protection has been removed. From a 2017 public hearing on the corridor. Note that the planned I-80 interchange was strictly system to system with no local connection or south extension provided for. https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/IDOT-Projects/District-3/Prarie-Parkway-Corridor/files/110217PH/Aerial%20Exhibit%201%20(I-80%20-%20Church%20Rd).pdf
Edits: additional details from research
Does IDOT do a "first dibs" approach to right of ways? I noticed in some jurisdictions the farmer maintains the rights to the land, pays taxes becuase he is allowed to continue to farm it and earn income from it, but can't sell it or sublet it becuase the state has first rights.
In some cases when funding was lost or removed, I would see the ROW was fallow for a season or two anticipating construction, then revert back to farming becuase the DOT wasn't sure when funding was being restored.
FWIW: Central Land Management is a land management company based in Plainfield Illinois, they grow sod and various grasses for suburban developments.
If IDOT has excess right of way, and they own it in fee simple, they can sell it at public auction to the highest bidder. Land sales are often initiated by an interested party who knows the land is not being used and makes an inquiry to IDOT on whether hey would be interested in selling. IDT needs to get legislative approval (they usually combine a bunch of these together on an approval bill each year) and then the lands go to auction. Often there is only one bidder because the land doesn't have much value to anyone other than the adjacent land owner, but some parcels could be competitive.
If the land was never acquired in fee simple, use of it would revert to the underlying land owner if it was abandoned for a transportation purpose. Back in the 1920s era, IDOT acquired ROW by "dedication" which meant no money changed hands. It was thought to be a just compensation because property was made more valuable by having a road next to it. Over the years the philosophy changed and any new ROW is now acquired by fee simple or permanent easement, and monetary compensation is given.
Quote from: Rick Powell on February 11, 2023, 12:41:50 AM
If IDOT has excess right of way, and they own it in fee simple, they can sell it at public auction to the highest bidder. Land sales are often initiated by an interested party who knows the land is not being used and makes an inquiry to IDOT on whether hey would be interested in selling. IDT needs to get legislative approval (they usually combine a bunch of these together on an approval bill each year) and then the lands go to auction. Often there is only one bidder because the land doesn't have much value to anyone other than the adjacent land owner, but some parcels could be competitive.
If the land was never acquired in fee simple, use of it would revert to the underlying land owner if it was abandoned for a transportation purpose. Back in the 1920s era, IDOT acquired ROW by "dedication" which meant no money changed hands. It was thought to be a just compensation because property was made more valuable by having a road next to it. Over the years the philosophy changed and any new ROW is now acquired by fee simple or permanent easement, and monetary compensation is given.
Very interesting. The reason I asked specifically about IDOT is due to the fact they own many parcels in and near where Barlett Road and Oak Street meets Lake Street (US-20). In those parcels there are signs that say "No Tresspassing, Property of IDOT".
In Tennessee north of Union City, the tax rolls showed two farmers still owned the ROW where I-69 was to come through, but while one left the land fallow, the other planted corn with a small gap for trucks to pass through. They weren't removed until TnDOT announced bids for the construction. This situation sat like this for many years while TnDOT got additional funding.
IDOT has been waiting on funding (forever) on US-20 to IL-59 but they continue to retain ownership of the said lands. Some have reverted to forest, some remain agricultural.
Along US-50 between Carlyle and Summerfield, there are many parts of the ROW for the unfinished 4 lane grade seperated highway in place, and even though the property line fences for the ROW are still in place, farmers have been allowed to come in those fences and plant corn where 2 lanes of highway were originally planned.
This is why I was asking, seems like each state, perhaps each district handles these differently.
Quote from: edwaleni on February 12, 2023, 10:02:54 PM
This is why I was asking, seems like each state, perhaps each district handles these differently.
Currently unused land owned by the state can and does get rented out for agriculture, business etc. That being said, excess land and its management is one of the things most states would prefer to minimize. Some policies for property management may vary from state to state, but for land acquisition all states must follow what is called the "Uniform Act" policy, including policy on items such as appraisals, offers to buy and relocation expenses, in order to stay eligible for federal funding.
List of projects for the April 28, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/f911b548-7cae-434e-91bb-8800616087b1)
* Item 17 appears to be replacement of the IL 17 bridge over I-55 at Dwight.
* Item 38 resurfaces some of I-74 around the south side of Bloomington-Normal.
* Item 45 is a resurfacing with traffic signal work on 6th Street in Springfield "from north of Stanford Avenue to Myrtle Street".
* Item 86 is a signal improvement project on the Walkup Road - Crystal Lake Road corridor in McHenry County. Based on the quantity of 4-section heads it may be a flashing yellow arrow project.
* Item 107 is a trombone mast arm replacement contract for the Chicago District.
* Item 108 replaces the River Road bridge over I-80 in Will County.
* Item 111 repaints the bridge carrying US 6 and US 52 over the Des Plaines River.
* Item 119 is a roundabout for IL 40 at Science Ridge Road north of Sterling.
* Item 140 appears to be an intersection improvement/realignment for IL 83 around IL 137.
* Item 150 reconstructs the IL 3 intersection with 20th Street in Granite City.
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
* Item 157 is a rebid of a project to add right turn lanes to the Queeny Avenue - IL 3 intersection in Sauget.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 24, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
Is it common for IDOT to take charge local road extensions like this? Right now, Freedom Pkwy just leads from IL 8 (BUS US 24) to the Walmart, Menards, and other commercial properties. The extension would allow it to better connect to residential areas to the east, but I don't see why IDOT would step in other than supplementary funding.
Quote from: pianocello on March 25, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 24, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
Is it common for IDOT to take charge local road extensions like this? Right now, Freedom Pkwy just leads from IL 8 (BUS US 24) to the Walmart, Menards, and other commercial properties. The extension would allow it to better connect to residential areas to the east, but I don't see why IDOT would step in other than supplementary funding.
I'm guessing it is a federally funded project? It doesn't seem uncommon for IDOT to let those, even if IDOT is not the lead agency and none of the roads in question are IDOT's. Looking at the Kansas letting thread it appears like Illinois is not alone in this practice.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 25, 2023, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: pianocello on March 25, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 24, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
Is it common for IDOT to take charge local road extensions like this? Right now, Freedom Pkwy just leads from IL 8 (BUS US 24) to the Walmart, Menards, and other commercial properties. The extension would allow it to better connect to residential areas to the east, but I don't see why IDOT would step in other than supplementary funding.
I'm guessing it is a federally funded project? It doesn't seem uncommon for IDOT to let those, even if IDOT is not the lead agency and none of the roads in question are IDOT's. Looking at the Kansas letting thread it appears like Illinois is not alone in this practice.
"Local" to most people means something different than the functional classifications FHWA has defined. Also, road ownership can be ridiculously complicated. And, as you point out, State DOTs can let projects for work on locally-owned facilities (the Bridge/Culvert NY program did this in certain instances). All sorts of variables come into play.
Quote from: pianocello on March 25, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 24, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
Is it common for IDOT to take charge local road extensions like this? Right now, Freedom Pkwy just leads from IL 8 (BUS US 24) to the Walmart, Menards, and other commercial properties. The extension would allow it to better connect to residential areas to the east, but I don't see why IDOT would step in other than supplementary funding.
Just because it's on the statewide letting doesn't mean that the road is jurisdictionally IDOT's. IDOT has a process to include local projects on the statewide letting where the procurement is standardized to IDOT requirements. Many but not all federally funded local projects are placed on the statewide letting. Look at the entire list and you will see "CH" (county highway) and TR (township road) pop up here and there as well as municipal street names.
Quote from: Rick Powell on March 26, 2023, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: pianocello on March 25, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 24, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
Is it common for IDOT to take charge local road extensions like this? Right now, Freedom Pkwy just leads from IL 8 (BUS US 24) to the Walmart, Menards, and other commercial properties. The extension would allow it to better connect to residential areas to the east, but I don't see why IDOT would step in other than supplementary funding.
Just because it's on the statewide letting doesn't mean that the road is jurisdictionally IDOT's. IDOT has a process to include local projects on the statewide letting where the procurement is standardized to IDOT requirements. Many but not all federally funded local projects are placed on the statewide letting. Look at the entire list and you will see "CH" (county highway) and TR (township road) pop up here and there as well as municipal street names.
If I recall correctly, projects that receive federal funding have to be let through the IDOT bid lettings whether or not they fall under IDOT's jurisdiction. This could also be a case where the state "secretly" maintains an unnumbered roadway.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2023, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: Rick Powell on March 26, 2023, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: pianocello on March 25, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 24, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
* Item 155" "Roadway extension of Freedom Parkway from east of IL 8 to Cummings Lane in Washington."
Is it common for IDOT to take charge local road extensions like this? Right now, Freedom Pkwy just leads from IL 8 (BUS US 24) to the Walmart, Menards, and other commercial properties. The extension would allow it to better connect to residential areas to the east, but I don't see why IDOT would step in other than supplementary funding.
Just because it's on the statewide letting doesn't mean that the road is jurisdictionally IDOT's. IDOT has a process to include local projects on the statewide letting where the procurement is standardized to IDOT requirements. Many but not all federally funded local projects are placed on the statewide letting. Look at the entire list and you will see "CH" (county highway) and TR (township road) pop up here and there as well as municipal street names.
If I recall correctly, projects that receive federal funding have to be let through the IDOT bid lettings whether or not they fall under IDOT's jurisdiction. This could also be a case where the state "secretly" maintains an unnumbered roadway.
Another possibility is that the locality had the state do some or all of the design work. A lot of MDOT's (Michigan) bid lettings include the sentence "This is a Local Agency project" in the summary description, and I assume it's because of that or the funding source.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2023, 10:35:00 AM
If I recall correctly, projects that receive federal funding have to be let through the IDOT bid lettings whether or not they fall under IDOT's jurisdiction. This could also be a case where the state "secretly" maintains an unnumbered roadway.
Many local projects with federal funds are let on the statewide letting, but I have a project now that will be on a local letting that has both federal highway and federal rail $ involved, where IDOT is a stakeholder but has no financial contribution. Not sure what the exact rules are. Small municipalities, townships and counties probably appreciate putting a project on the IDOT letting instead of having to do a lot of one-off paperwork to let it themselves, even where they are allowed to do so. Also agreed that there are lots of unmarked FAS and FAU routes that are state routes, especially in the Chicago area.
List of projects for the June 16, 2023 Letting is up (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0d9df85b-899d-48cc-9aaf-7d839de01043)
* Item 23 is a building demolition near the east end of the Julien Dubuque Bridge on US 20 in East Dubuque.
* Item 117 appears to be an intersection improvement project for US 30 at IL 50
* Item 118 is bridge replacement and some other work for IL 31 at US 20
* Item 121 appears to be intersection modifications for US 20 at Gary Avenue around Roselle.
* Item 122 appears to be building demolition for the future widening of IL 22 in Lake County between IL 83 and Quentin Road.
* Item 124 converts the IL 394 - Exchange Street Burville Road intersection to an RCUT
* Item 166: "Replacing sign components of interstate signs on I-72 and I-55 in various counties of District 6."
* Item 168 is bridge repairs for the Ohio Street Bridge over the North Branch of the Chicago River.
* Item 169 appears to be a mainline reconstruction contract for I-80 west of I-55
* Item 171 is a bridge beam fabrication contract for I-80 around I-55
* Item 184: More work for I-24 over the Ohio River
* Item 202 signalizes the Giant City Road intersection with East Pleasant Hill Road in Carbondale.
* Item 211: "Navigation lighting upgrade on SN 002-0005 on US 60/62 over the Mississippi River in Cairo."
* Item 223 reconstructs part of Indian Trail Road in Aurora.
* Item 226: "Reconstruction of the I-39/US 20 Interchange." Pay item listing suggests this is for the western/southern interchange.
* Item 234 appears to be some sort of grade separation for Iron Bridge Road at the UP Railroad south of Springfield.
* Item 239 adds a lane on IL 146 between I-24 and US 45, along with a roundabout at Red Bud Lane.
[edited to fix link and fix the description for Item 124]
Item 211: "Navigation lighting upgrade on SN 002-0005 on US 60/62 over the Mississippi River in Cairo."
Is this bridge still under an emergency closure?
Quote from: edwaleni on May 16, 2023, 08:55:36 AM
Item 211: "Navigation lighting upgrade on SN 002-0005 on US 60/62 over the Mississippi River in Cairo."
Is this bridge still under an emergency closure?
Yes, but barges and whatnot still pass under it.
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 15, 2023, 10:37:13 PM
List of projects for the June 16, 2023 Letting is up (//http://)
* Item 23 is a building demolition near the east end of the Julien Dubuque Bridge on US 20 in East Dubuque.
I have a feeling I might know which building it is. There's a small bank building on the north side of the bridge curve
Quote from: ET21 on May 16, 2023, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 15, 2023, 10:37:13 PM
List of projects for the June 16, 2023 Letting is up (//http://)
* Item 23 is a building demolition near the east end of the Julien Dubuque Bridge on US 20 in East Dubuque.
I have a feeling I might know which building it is. There's a small bank building on the north side of the bridge curve
Here's a link to the plans. Near SE corner of 4th and Wall streets, at 420 Wall Street, next to Weimerskirch Family Dental.
http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/061623/023-64S16/PLANS/PL-64S16-023.pdf
Google aerial https://www.google.com/maps/place/420+Wall+St,+East+Dubuque,+IL+61025/@42.4907614,-90.642398,142m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x87e32bb583a83b05:0x136a5807896e2516!8m2!3d42.4907714!4d-90.6418794!16s%2Fg%2F11c14dvgf7
Quote from: Rick Powell on May 16, 2023, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: ET21 on May 16, 2023, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 15, 2023, 10:37:13 PM
List of projects for the June 16, 2023 Letting is up (//http://)
* Item 23 is a building demolition near the east end of the Julien Dubuque Bridge on US 20 in East Dubuque.
I have a feeling I might know which building it is. There's a small bank building on the north side of the bridge curve
Here's a link to the plans. Near SE corner of 4th and Wall streets, at 420 Wall Street, next to Weimerskirch Family Dental.
http://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/061623/023-64S16/PLANS/PL-64S16-023.pdf
Google aerial https://www.google.com/maps/place/420+Wall+St,+East+Dubuque,+IL+61025/@42.4907614,-90.642398,142m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x87e32bb583a83b05:0x136a5807896e2516!8m2!3d42.4907714!4d-90.6418794!16s%2Fg%2F11c14dvgf7
Is there a site plan for what IDOT is going to do with the parcels they have been collecting between US-20 and the BNSF ROW, specifically along Wall Street?
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Quote from: edwaleni on May 16, 2023, 08:55:36 AM
Item 211: "Navigation lighting upgrade on SN 002-0005 on US 60/62 over the Mississippi River in Cairo."
Is this bridge still under an emergency closure?
Yes, but barges and whatnot still pass under it.
I figured as such, but do DOT's close river bridges if their navigation lighting is out? Fear of a barge strike?
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 15, 2023, 10:37:13 PM
* Item 124 converts the IL 394 - Exchange Street intersection to an RCUT
Um...I was in panic mode for a second there. I looked at the plans, and the description is wrong. The RCUT is planned at 394 and Burville, NOT 394 and Exchange. I'd HOPE I would know about something wrecking Exchange Street's continuity, because it's a Will County highway...
Also the link to the list for the June 16 letting was broken for me, so here's a new one: https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0d9df85b-899d-48cc-9aaf-7d839de01043
IDOT news release
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Record bid letting for IDOT in June
Fueled by Rebuild Illinois, $910.4 million slated to invest in state's infrastructure
SPRINGFIELD — The Illinois Department of Transportation announced today that bids on 236 contracts for highway and bridge projects were accepted at its June letting, representing a potential investment of more than $910.4 million in infrastructure in communities throughout Illinois. This month's bid letting is the largest in the department's history, fueled by Gov. Pritzker's historic, bipartisan Rebuild Illinois, which is putting people to work and enhancing quality of life while improving safety and mobility in every part of the state.
"This bid letting is an historic achievement for Illinois and further illustrates the kind of transformational investments being made in the state's infrastructure due to Rebuild Illinois," said Illinois Transportation Secretary Omer Osman. "Up and down Illinois, communities are experiencing the benefits of an improved, modernized transportation system that gets you and your family where you need to go safely and reliably."
In the bid letting held June 16, significant contracts include:
- $55.4 million to reconstruct Interstate 80 with capacity improvements between Minooka in Kendall County to I-55 in Will County.
- $18.7 million to reconstruct the interchange of Illinois 31 and U.S. 20 in Elgin.
- $20.5 million to reconstruct 1.2 miles of Illinois 7 (Southwest Highway) from 131st Street to south of 135th Street in Orland Park.
- $14.4 million to replace the approach and deck of the bridge and other repairs to Illinois 83 (127th Street) over the Cal Sag Channel in Crestwood and Alsip.
- $755,753 to resurface Pulaski Road from I-290 (Eisenhower Expressway) to Cermak Road in Chicago.
- $1.4 million to repair the bridge from I-55 northbound to the Chinatown Feeder in Chicago.
- $4.1 million to convert the intersection of Illinois 394 and Burville Road in unincorporated Crete Township into a Restricted Crossing U-Turn (RCUT).
- $98.8 million to reconstruct the I-39 and U.S. 20 interchange in Rockford.
- $28.8 million to resurface I-74 from north of Illinois 17 in Henry County to U.S. 34 in Knox County.
- $7.3 million to replace the bridges carrying I-57 over U.S. 45 near Pesotum in Champaign County.
- $68.9 million to build Brush College Road bridge over the Norfolk Southern Railroad and Fairies Parkway in Decatur.
- $11.5 million to patch and resurface, replace sidewalks, curbs and gutters as well as install new signals on Illinois 121 from I-72 to Illinois 48 in Decatur.
- $44.3 million to build two bridges on Iron Bridge Road and Woodside Road in Sangamon County.
- $24.5 million for patching, improving drainage and resurfacing 8 miles of U.S. 51 from the DeWitt County line to north of Forsyth Road in Forsyth.
- $15.2 million to resurface 10 miles of Illinois 255 from Illinois 142 and Seminary Road in the Metro East.
- $36.8 million to resurface 12.7 miles of I-57 from north of Illinois 146 to the Williamson/Johnson county line.
$21.6 million to patch and resurface 13 miles of I-24 from I-57 to north of U.S. 45 in Vienna. Work includes repairs to five bridges and painting of two bridges.
A total of 38 contracts bid on were in excess of $5 million. Proposals received during the bid letting are subject to review, with contracts generally awarded within a month following the bid letting and construction starting soon afterward. For fiscal year 2023, IDOT has awarded 785 contracts worth more than $2.5 billion in highway and bridge improvements.
Passed in 2019, Rebuild Illinois is investing $33.2 billion into the state's aging transportation system, creating jobs and promoting economic growth. Rebuild Illinois is not only the largest capital program in state history but also the first one that touches all modes of Illinois transportation: roads and bridges, transit, waterways, freight and passenger rail, aviation, and bicycle and pedestrian accommodations.
The record investment in Illinois infrastructure likewise is made possible by the federal Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which passed in late 2021. Illinois is estimated to receive about $17.8 billion in combined infrastructure funding over five years, almost $16 billion of which will be invested across all modes of transportation. An estimated $9.8 billion will go to highway investment, with another $1.4 billion dedicated to bridge replacement and repairs.
Quote$7.3 million to replace the bridges carrying I-57 over U.S. 45 near Pesotum in Champaign County.
I remember when these were built. For several years I-57 used to end here and people had to use US-45 to reach Champaign.
There used to be a chain restarant called "Hen House" here and my dad used to stop there religously. I think the last one left was in Tuscola and closed during covid.
Quote$98.8 million to reconstruct the I-39 and U.S. 20 interchange in Rockford.
I assume this will mean that the ghost ramps/landscaping and all of the "single lane" 2 lane bridges that were built for the cancelled Rockford East Access will be removed once and for all.
Quote$18.7 million to reconstruct the interchange of Illinois 31 and U.S. 20 in Elgin.
The bridge for IL-31 dates back to 1959 when the US-20 Bypass was built. It used to have a railroad on it when it was built. The tracks were used to bring boiler coal down to Illinois State Mental Farm in Elgin. Years ago when someone acted crazy we would say, "are you headed to Elgin State?". If you look underneath that bridge it has several hundred lumber spacers keeping (or trying) those rusty I beams straight. Should have been replaced ages ago.
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 21, 2023, 03:41:33 PM
- $14.4 million to replace the approach and deck of the bridge and other repairs to Illinois 83 (127th Street) over the Cal Sag Channel in Crestwood and Alsip.
Bruh this one is taking forever to finish
This project on I-80 (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbContractDetail/Index/0d9df85b-899d-48cc-9aaf-7d839de01043?page=2&contractId=a551ca7b-5e03-4fa2-9463-b72156c5267f) is desperately needed. It's not a widening, but the pavement here is beaten all to hell between I-55 and the exit to the west (Ridge Road/Minooka).
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 21, 2023, 03:41:33 PM
- $68.9 million to build Brush College Road bridge over the Norfolk Southern Railroad and Fairies Parkway in Decatur.
$68.9 million for a railroad overpass on a city street? What am I missing here?
https://goo.gl/maps/B2CmAa3WqZ5TtBeQ6
Quote from: rte66man on June 27, 2023, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 21, 2023, 03:41:33 PM
- $68.9 million to build Brush College Road bridge over the Norfolk Southern Railroad and Fairies Parkway in Decatur.
$68.9 million for a railroad overpass on a city street? What am I missing here?
https://goo.gl/maps/B2CmAa3WqZ5TtBeQ6
It's 14.0 feet of clearance
its very narrow, it really should be a 1 way bridge with light control
it has a working rail line next to it
it has a sidewalk
That is why they want to get rid of it.
It is residential in the SE quadrant
It is industrial in the NW quadrant
That means the bridge will have to pass over at an angle and there will be some private property acquisition.
Also there are existing ADM steam piping that will have to be avoided.
Fairies gets backed up when there is a lot of switching going on as the spurs all cross it to reach ADM4.
So the bridge will be long. Minimum of 7 blocks.
Quote from: edwaleni on June 27, 2023, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: rte66man on June 27, 2023, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 21, 2023, 03:41:33 PM
- $68.9 million to build Brush College Road bridge over the Norfolk Southern Railroad and Fairies Parkway in Decatur.
$68.9 million for a railroad overpass on a city street? What am I missing here?
https://goo.gl/maps/B2CmAa3WqZ5TtBeQ6
It's 14.0 feet of clearance
its very narrow, it really should be a 1 way bridge with light control
it has a working rail line next to it
it has a sidewalk
That is why they want to get rid of it.
It is residential in the SE quadrant
It is industrial in the NW quadrant
That means the bridge will have to pass over at an angle and there will be some private property acquisition.
Also there are existing ADM steam piping that will have to be avoided.
Fairies gets backed up when there is a lot of switching going on as the spurs all cross it to reach ADM4.
So the bridge will be long. Minimum of 7 blocks.
I wasn't challenging the need for it. that was very obvious once I saw it in Google Earth. I'm assuming they will make it 4 vehicle lanes with sidewalks on both sides and possibly a bike path. I saw what it had to cross over but I still don't see why they say it will take 68.9 million. ODOT is nearing completion of the US377 bridge over Lake Texoma. While only 2 12 ft lanes with 10 ft shoulders, it is exactly one mile long over deep water. It ended up costing about $55 million. 7 blocks vs one mile. 4 lanes plus sidewalks vs 2 lanes. I just don't see it.
Quote from: rte66man on June 28, 2023, 04:22:12 PM
7 blocks vs one mile.
Have you measured those seven blocks to see how close it is to a mile?
Quote from: kphoger on June 28, 2023, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: rte66man on June 28, 2023, 04:22:12 PM
7 blocks vs one mile.
Have you measured those seven blocks to see how close it is to a mile?
Google measures it at about half a mile.
Quote from: edwaleni on June 27, 2023, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: rte66man on June 27, 2023, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on June 21, 2023, 03:41:33 PM
- $68.9 million to build Brush College Road bridge over the Norfolk Southern Railroad and Fairies Parkway in Decatur.
I think the plans show this over Fairies, not replacing the underpass. Still tight quarters.
$68.9 million for a railroad overpass on a city street? What am I missing here?
https://goo.gl/maps/B2CmAa3WqZ5TtBeQ6
It's 14.0 feet of clearance
its very narrow, it really should be a 1 way bridge with light control
it has a working rail line next to it
it has a sidewalk
That is why they want to get rid of it.
It is residential in the SE quadrant
It is industrial in the NW quadrant
That means the bridge will have to pass over at an angle and there will be some private property acquisition.
Also there are existing ADM steam piping that will have to be avoided.
Fairies gets backed up when there is a lot of switching going on as the spurs all cross it to reach ADM4.
So the bridge will be long. Minimum of 7 blocks.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 26, 2023, 04:44:43 PMIt's not a widening,
Looking at the typical sections in the plan set, there are a full 3 lanes in each direction, and 12 foot inside and 12' concrete + 4' aggregate outside shoulders, with a concrete median barrier dividing the EB and WB inside shoulders. So it is a widening from 2 to 3, and wider shoulders too.
List of projects for the August 4, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/76a81587-51f9-4dd9-9500-cec764f051e7)
* Item 1X (review and inspection only) is for replacing the US 67 Illinois River Bridge at Beardstown.
* Item 9 resurfaces I-57 from the Will County line to US 6/159th Street.
* Item 13 is intersection improvements for IL 120 at O'Plaine Road. (https://goo.gl/maps/dKcMxbXFEvMort327)
* Item 23 is another trombone mast arm replacement contract in Cook and Kane Counties.
* Item 58 adds roundabouts to the I-57 interchange with IL 149.
* Item 62: "nstallation of median crossovers for the eastbound lanes of IL 13 at SN 039-0075 carrying IL 13 over the Big Muddy River, east of Murphysboro."
* Item 69: " Conversion of Jefferson Avenue and Adams Street to Two-Way Traffic, from Walnumt Street to Fayette Street in Peoria"
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2023, 10:13:35 PM
List of projects for the August 4, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/76a81587-51f9-4dd9-9500-cec764f051e7)
* Item 1X (review and inspection only) is for replacing the US 67 Illinois River Bridge at Beardstown.
Completion Date: October 31, 2026 Plus 30 Working Days
Quote from: edwaleni on June 30, 2023, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2023, 10:13:35 PM
List of projects for the August 4, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/76a81587-51f9-4dd9-9500-cec764f051e7)
* Item 1X (review and inspection only) is for replacing the US 67 Illinois River Bridge at Beardstown.
Completion Date: October 31, 2026 Plus 30 Working Days
I see it will be another fairly dull beam bridge.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 26, 2023, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on June 30, 2023, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2023, 10:13:35 PM
List of projects for the August 4, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/76a81587-51f9-4dd9-9500-cec764f051e7)
* Item 1X (review and inspection only) is for replacing the US 67 Illinois River Bridge at Beardstown.
Completion Date: October 31, 2026 Plus 30 Working Days
I see it will be another fairly dull beam bridge.
Are you requesting more pizazz in bridge designs? :) I second that.
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 27, 2023, 09:21:27 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 26, 2023, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on June 30, 2023, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2023, 10:13:35 PM
List of projects for the August 4, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/76a81587-51f9-4dd9-9500-cec764f051e7)
* Item 1X (review and inspection only) is for replacing the US 67 Illinois River Bridge at Beardstown.
Completion Date: October 31, 2026 Plus 30 Working Days
I see it will be another fairly dull beam bridge.
Are you requesting more pizazz in bridge designs? :) I second that.
Not in these rural, relatively lower population areas. Its all about cost, cost, cost.
Using the reinforced concrete model with a steel girder plate for the center span is a standard template in many states now.
Easy to spec, easy to bid, easy to pick the winner of said bid.
Simple also means (in most cases) faster to complete.
I have gone to public hearings before about bridge design and the DOT planner always pulls the verbal appeal to the room and says "is there anyone here who will pay 10-15% more to make it look better?", Of course they all say "no".
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2023, 10:13:35 PM
List of projects for the August 4, 2023 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/76a81587-51f9-4dd9-9500-cec764f051e7)
* Item 58 adds roundabouts to the I-57 interchange with IL 149.
* Item 62: "Installation of median crossovers for the eastbound lanes of IL 13 at SN 039-0075 carrying IL 13 over the Big Muddy River, east of Murphysboro."
IL 149 has seen just a few roundabouts installed the last few years.
I expect at least one more sometime soon, at 149 & Cambria Rd in Hurst, especially since IDOT put one in just south of this location at Herrin Rd & Cambria Rd, which is due a 4th leg off that roundabout for the new road that is to directly serve the new casino at Walker's Bluff
AFA the 13 bridges over the Big Muddy in Murphysboro, I'd like to know what is wrong with the current ones. Pavement is in great shape and neither bridge is THAT old. Something fail an inspection? Or widening it? Eastbound lanes are leaving the stoplight with 127 and 149 towards Carbondale. Widening it would only make sense if IDOT wants to make a "constant green" third/right lane for traffic leaving Murphysboro
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 27, 2023, 09:21:27 AM
Are you requesting more pizazz in bridge designs? :) I second that.
I seem to recall a tied arch originally being planned there, probably back when the bridge was to be replaced as part of the expressway upgrade for US 67.
List of projects for the September 22, 2023 Letting is up. (//http://)
* Item 1X is another review and inspection' for the US 67 Illinois River Bridge replacement at Beardstown.
* Item 11 is LED lighting work s for I-94/Edens Expressway at the Dundee Road, Tower Road and Lake Avenue interchanges.
* Item 13 is "reconstruction of I-80 mainline pavement from west of Houbolt Road to west of Joliet Junction Trail."
* Item 19 demolishes a few buildings along IL 31 and IL 47 in McHenry County.
* Item 20 is another trombone mast arm replacement contract for Cook and Will Counties.
* Item 21 is for LED lighting work on I-57 from 183rd St to US 30.
* Item 36 demolishes some buildings along Main Street in East Peoria.
* Item 70 reconstructs I-80 from Roswell Avenue to Gougar Road.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 18, 2023, 10:26:44 PM
List of projects for the September 22, 2023 Letting is up. (//http://)
* Item 1X is another review and inspection' for the US 67 Illinois River Bridge replacement at Beardstown.
* Item 11 is LED lighting work s for I-94/Edens Expressway at the Dundee Road, Tower Road and Lake Avenue interchanges.
* Item 13 is "reconstruction of I-80 mainline pavement from west of Houbolt Road to west of Joliet Junction Trail."
* Item 19 demolishes a few buildings along IL 31 and IL 47 in McHenry County.
* Item 20 is another trombone mast arm replacement contract for Cook and Will Counties.
* Item 21 is for LED lighting work on I-57 from 183rd St to US 30.
* Item 36 demolishes some buildings along Main Street in East Peoria.
* Item 70 reconstructs I-80 from Roswell Avenue to Gougar Road.
Good to see the LED lamp replacements moving along. For those who remember I posted here about a dialog with IDOT about the cost savings a mass LED replacement program would bring to the state through power reductions.
As for US-67 & Beardstown, I am kind of confused to see a bid for what appears to be a second opinion on the proposed bridge. Cost problems? Engineering issues? I would be curious to know what is driving yet another bid.
The fact that IDOT is splitting the I-80 rebuild into at least 4 separate contracts is going to spell absolute chaos in terms of construction staging. This is going to create multiple points where traffic will have to shift unexpectedly.
So far, we have: Rowell to Gougar, I-55 to west of Larkin, Minooka to I-55. That means we'll have a separate contract for the main river bridge including from west of Larkin to Rowell, if that isn't also split up into smaller pieces. That makes at least 4 separate contracts for the I-80 rebuild.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 27, 2023, 10:54:18 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 27, 2023, 09:21:27 AM
Are you requesting more pizazz in bridge designs? :) I second that.
I seem to recall a tied arch originally being planned there, probably back when the bridge was to be replaced as part of the expressway upgrade for US 67.
Per IDOT:
The river crossing at Beardstown is not part of the ongoing effort to convert 228 miles of U.S. 67 from a two-lane highway to a four-lane expressway from Godfrey to Rock Island.
"This should not be lumped in with the Corridor 67 project. The location would allow another two-lane bridge to be built next to it to make it four lanes, Harris said. "So, there is room for expansion should the corridor project ever be completed." FWIW: I finally found out that the bid review was due to some additional parcels that were needed and to get the final permits in place to break ground. Which has been pushed out to this Fall/Winter.
There are delays North of Monmouth too. They are just finishing the full reconstruction of the first part. It's impressive the paved shoulders are 6 feet. The gravel is 4 and it's deep and thick . It certainly will function. As multi lane with farm eqipment.
It is 44 feet wide same as the Beardstown Bridge will be.
I think the current is 22
Quote from: 3467 on August 21, 2023, 06:52:19 PM
There are delays North of Monmouth too. They are just finishing the full reconstruction of the first part. It's impressive the paved shoulders are 6 feet. The gravel is 4 and it's deep and thick . It certainly will function. As multi lane with farm eqipment.
It is 44 feet wide same as the Beardstown Bridge will be.
I think the current is 22
Did the Florence Bridge go out for bid yet? It's about $14 million more than Beardstown.
Quote from: edwaleni on August 21, 2023, 11:06:05 PM
Did the Florence Bridge go out for bid yet? It's about $14 million more than Beardstown.
Not yet, it might make the next letting; they were targeting a fall 2023 letting last I heard.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 21, 2023, 11:16:06 AM
The fact that IDOT is splitting the I-80 rebuild into at least 4 separate contracts is going to spell absolute chaos in terms of construction staging. This is going to create multiple points where traffic will have to shift unexpectedly.
So far, we have: Rowell to Gougar, I-55 to west of Larkin, Minooka to I-55. That means we'll have a separate contract for the main river bridge including from west of Larkin to Rowell, if that isn't also split up into smaller pieces. That makes at least 4 separate contracts for the I-80 rebuild.
Disclaimer: My associates are designing the river crossing for IDOT, but I don't have a primary role in the project.
Here are my thoughts. There are already multiple lane shifts within the overall project and have been. There is overall corridor management of the project so that the "absolute chaos" of independent contractors going their own way with the traffic control will not happen. A big chunk of the complexity is being knocked off with the reconstruction of the lanes and bridges east of the river, and I think the contractors have done as good a job as practical in keeping traffic moving through the zone. Other than the Chicago Street and Meadow/Center Street interchanges coming up, the staging will be relatively easy for the remaining pieces.
List of projects for the November 17, 2023 Letting is up (//http://)
- Item 1X is for the the US 67 Illinois River bridge replacement at Beardstown (finally going for bids)
- Item 2 is sign replacement for various locations in Madison and St. Clair Counties
- Item 25 is for bridge deck replacement on IL 120 over the Des Plaines River and work on a few other nearby bridges
- Item 26 is another I-80 reconstruction contract, this one from east of River Road to west of Houbolt Road
- Item 85 adds roundabouts to IL 3's intersections with Pierce Lane and Delmar Avenue in Godfrey
- Item 94 reconstructs the US 45/Old IL 13 intersection in Harrisburg
- Item 95 is a rebid of the roundabouts for IL 149 at I-57
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2023, 10:38:34 PM
List of projects for the November 17, 2023 Letting is up (//http://)
- Item 1X is for the the US 67 Illinois River bridge replacement at Beardstown (finally going for bids)
This is great news.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2023, 10:38:34 PM
List of projects for the November 17, 2023 Letting is up (//http://)
- Item 26 is another I-80 reconstruction contract, this one from east of River Road to west of Houbolt Road
That's going to include the interchange with I-55 (and not much else), so that's going to be VERY interesting.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2023, 10:38:34 PM
Item 94 reconstructs the US 45/Old IL 13 intersection in Harrisburg
I get a "blocked" error. Is this one just an as-is rebuild, or is it being reconfigured somehow?
Try https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/89771424-6569-48fc-861a-6a446617c78e for the correct link.
List of projects for the January 19, 2024 Letting is up. (//http://)
- Item 1X is a review and inspection only for replacing the I-64 bridges over the Wabash River (has a completion date listed as June 30, 2028)
- Item 2 is for lighting work at the I-39 interchange with I-88
- Item 22 is for lighting replacement on I-74 at Lincoln Avenue and US 45 around Champaign
- Item 25: "1.7 miles of pavement reconstruction, milling and resurfacing, sidewalk ramp improvements and accessible pedestrian traffic signals on Dirksen Parkway from 0.1 miles south of Peoria Road to north of Northfield Drive in Springfield. "
- Item 34 is for abutment and superstructure replacement on the US 50 bridges over Township Road 262 near Lawrenceville
- Item 37 (already deleted) would have been signal work on IL 37 in Marion
- Item 57 replaces a bridge on US 12-US 20-US 45 in the IL 171 interchange
- Item 77 is deck and joint work on the I-55 Des Plaines River Bridges (a traffic booster for the new Houbolt Road toll bridge?)
- Item 111: "2 miles of new construction on IL 158 from IL 161 to IL 177, including new SN 082-0276. "
- Item 112 (already deleted) would have been reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43
- Item 134 modifies a curve on the northern frontage road for I-55 at Cass Avenue
- Item 135 is another I-80 reconstruction contract, this one from west of the Joliet Junction Trail to Wheeler Avenue
- Item 140 is a resurfacing project with traffic signal work and "traffic improvements" somewhere in Bloomington
- Item 142 appears to be reconstruction of portions of IL 10 in Mason City
- Item 144 is a rebid of resurfacing and traffic signal work on Business 55 from Stanford Avenue to Myrtle Avenue in Springfield
- Item 149 is a widening and reconstruction for IL 7 in Lockport from Lincoln Street to Summit Street
- Item 150 is a widening and reconstruction project for IL 19 from IL 59 to Schaumburg Road
- Item 156 reconstructs West College Avenue in Normal from "US 150/Rivian Motorway to west of the Norfolk Southern Railroad"l
- Item 164 reconstructs the I-39 interchange with US 20/Harrison Avenue
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
List of projects for the January 19, 2024 Letting is up. (//http://)
- Item 34 is for abutment and superstructure replacement on the US 50 bridges over Township Road 262 near Lawrenceville
They have been replacing these periodically in Lawrence County. There are still 3 left that date back to the original build from 1961-1963 when it was going to be I-64.
I see IDOT finally removed the bridge over the former CCCStL Egyptian Line and put in a trail culvert north of Lawrenceville.
I find it interesting that IDOT has started work to replace the I-64 bridge over the Wabash River already and the US-50 Red Skelton Bridges, 8 years its senior, is still kicking.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
Item 156 reconstructs West College Avenue in Normal from "US 150/Rivian Motorway to west of the Norfolk Southern Railroad"
There will be a rubblized section on much of this one, with an asphalt overlay. New sidewalk on south side and multi-use trail on the north side. There are also a few intersection improvements at the Rivian (former Diamond Star/Mitsubishi) auto plant.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
List of projects for the January 19, 2024 Letting is up. (//http://)
- Item 112 (already deleted) would have been reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43
Does that mean the contract was already awarded? [/list]
Quote from: ET21 on December 10, 2023, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
List of projects for the January 19, 2024 Letting is up. (//http://)
- Item 112 (already deleted) would have been reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43
Does that mean the contract was already awarded? [/list]
No - it means it was pulled very last minute from the letting and will be on a future letting.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 10, 2023, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: ET21 on December 10, 2023, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
List of projects for the January 19, 2024 Letting is up. (//http://)
- Item 112 (already deleted) would have been reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43
Does that mean the contract was already awarded? [/list]
No - it means it was pulled very last minute from the letting and will be on a future letting.
Ugh.... that whole interchange needs a facelift. They recently had to mill down the pavement in spots because it was becoming mini mountains on the ramps.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
Item 135 is another I-80 reconstruction contract, this one from west of the Joliet Junction Trail to Wheeler Avenue
This is basically a reconstruction of the intersection at I-80 and Larkin (IL-7), and some reconstruction and widening of I-80 thrown in. Plans are found here: https://apps.dot.illinois.gov/eplan/desenv/011924/135-62R89/PLANS/
Plan views of road geometry begin at around page 65. Lots of 36-foot widths between the edge lines for the 3 lanes we were all expecting. But there appears to be 48-foot widths between Larkin and Center, probably indicating auxiliary lanes for the exits. Expect to see some "exit only" tabs! The interchange at Larkin is going to be a Parclo A4 (or whichever one has offramps meeting at signals but the onramps are directional).
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PMItem 164 reconstructs the I-39 interchange with US 20/Harrison Avenue
I don't see any plans for this yet--does anyone know if the interchange is going to be reconfigured from a cloverleaf?
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 14, 2023, 10:19:54 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PMItem 164 reconstructs the I-39 interchange with US 20/Harrison Avenue
I don't see any plans for this yet--does anyone know if the interchange is going to be reconfigured from a cloverleaf?
IIRC it was supposed to become a DDI.
Quote from: Rick Powell on December 09, 2023, 02:42:49 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
Item 156 reconstructs West College Avenue in Normal from "US 150/Rivian Motorway to west of the Norfolk Southern Railroad"
There will be a rubblized section on much of this one, with an asphalt overlay. New sidewalk on south side and multi-use trail on the north side. There are also a few intersection improvements at the Rivian (former Diamond Star/Mitsubishi) auto plant.
As a side note, Rivian got a large order from AT&T for electric service vans yesterday. Expect more trucks coming through here.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 14, 2023, 10:19:54 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2023, 11:41:51 PMItem 164 reconstructs the I-39 interchange with US 20/Harrison Avenue
I don't see any plans for this yet--does anyone know if the interchange is going to be reconfigured from a cloverleaf?
Plans are still not up but I certainly hope so. A DDI might be appropriate there.
DDI Is listed on the project page.
https://idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/transportation-management/featured-projects/winnebago-county--i-39-u-s--20-reconstruction-in-cherry-valley/overview.html
I will miss the free flow off of 20/39 but appreciate the auxiliary lanes on 20/39.
I noticed that at the western I-39/US-20 interchange that there are signs of former loop ramps, but looking at Historical Aerials and Google Earth, I can't see what they might have been for. It looks like there was a cloverleaf there that was removed, but the road main north-south road that it would have been a cloverleaf for never seems to have been built. Does anyone know?
(https://i.imgur.com/XnUI5LK.png)
This website gives some information about the canceled Raoul Wallenberg Expressway (formerly called the Woodruff Expressway): https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/2907254. There is also a AAROADS Forum thread with posts from 2015-2017 that gives more information about the canceled expressway: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14485.0.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 21, 2023, 01:09:50 PM
I noticed that at the western I-39/US-20 interchange that there are signs of former loop ramps, but looking at Historical Aerials and Google Earth, I can't see what they might have been for. It looks like there was a cloverleaf there that was removed, but the road main north-south road that it would have been a cloverleaf for never seems to have been built. Does anyone know?
(https://i.imgur.com/XnUI5LK.png)
The freeway was planned to go north of US 20, but was never built. It was graded though to put in the ramps at a future date.
Too funny. The referenced article on the Woodruff Expressway calls the rail line the "Galena & Chicago Union RR".
While that was it original name when it was built from Chicago to Freeport, Illinois in 1850, by 1864 it was called the Chicago & Northwestern. In 1996 it became the Union Pacific.
Good thing the expressway didnt take out the railroad, because Illinois just announced new Metra commuter service from Chicago to downtown Rockford earlier this year using the same line.
But it will take millions and a few years to fix it past the Stellantis Belvidere Assembly Plant. That was just closed by Stellantis this year and they are wrangling with Illinois to get a handout to turn it into an EV factory.
Doesn't include all the new stations that will be built. Illinois would like to use it to extend Amtrak to Dubuque, Iowa, but it seems CN isn't interested.
If you go look up the comments on US-20 in Illinois here on AARoads you will see why people in Iowa prefer Amtrak. But I digress. Back to bidding.
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on December 21, 2023, 03:56:31 PM
This website gives some information about the canceled Raoul Wallenberg Expressway (formerly called the Woodruff Expressway): https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/2907254. There is also a AAROADS Forum thread with posts from 2015-2017 that gives more information about the canceled expressway: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14485.0.
Thanks to you, BigJohn, and edwaleni for the details.
I was thinking that the interchange was a trumpet that got revamped, but the layout of the loops made no sense.
In any case, I believe the following are the germane posts from the earlier thread.
Quote from: ET21 on January 17, 2015, 02:35:42 PM
In your research, did you find out about the ghost ramp elevations at the I-39/US-51/US-20 interchange in Rockford? I always see what looks like a cloverleaf ramp elevation from east US-20 to the west US-20 ramp from northbound I-39/US-51 :hmmm:
Quote from: Stratuscaster on January 17, 2015, 03:31:20 PM
If I recall, the freeway was to extend north from US-20 into the city of Rockford. That section was canceled, but not before the ramps were graded.
Quote from: I-39 on January 17, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
The ghost ramps at the I-39/U.S 20 interchange in Rockford was preparation for the never built Woodruff Expressway, which was a crosstown highway proposed to lead commercial traffic back into downtown Rockford, since all of the traffic was heading east along the I-90/Northwest (Jane Addams) Tollway. It was to be built on the old RR ROW from the Galena and Chicago Union Railroad. It was ultimately cancelled due to high opposition (not really needed if you ask me).
There was a proposal to reconstruct the I-39/U.S 20 interchange as well as the U.S 20 Harrison Avenue interchange, but that has mysteriously been taken off the IDOT website within the last year. Does anyone know what happened there?
I am primarily interested as to why the U.S 51 corridor was not built as a Interstate-grade highway south of Bloomington-Normal. I'd argue that this was probably one of the biggest mistakes IDOT made in the last half-century (right up there with not building the full Route 53 extension)
I always thought that the western Interstate 39/US 20/US 51 interchange took up more land than it should have, given the unconstructed nature of the RWE. Hopefully, when the interchange is reconstructed, it becomes a more compact system interchange.
That interchange is not getting much smaller.
NB 39 will move west closer the left side ramp to WB 20, but it is being widened to 2 lanes.
SB 39 actually needed a little additional space as it moves slightly west to have 2 high speed lanes south from 20 WB.
Linden Road just south of 20 makes the ramps a bit more complicated as well.
List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0c6f6f5f-8100-4d32-8c1f-5fba38202905)
- The I-64 Wabash River Bridge replacement is finally taking bids but is still Item 1X
- Item 24 is intersection improvements for US 41 at Stearns School Road in Lake County
- Item 25 is some sort of safety/reconstruction project on US 20 around Barge Terminal Road and Fentress Road near East Dubuque
- Item 73 is a traffic signal modernization project for a few locations on IL 3 and IL 203 in St. Clair and Madison Counties
- Item 104 is reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43. The pay item listings suggest it's getting signals
- Item 105 is an intersection improvement for IL 43 at 22nd Street/Cermak Road
- Item 118 is a re-posting of the joint repairs and deck overlay for I-55 over the Des Plaines River near Joliet
- Item 132 is a widening a reconstruction of McLean Boulevard in South Elgin from Spring Street to Stearns Road
- Item 154 is a repost of the West College Avenue reconstruction in Normal
- Item 164 is reconstruction of the two IL 47/IL 176 intersections and widening of the IL 47/IL 176 overlap
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 02, 2024, 10:01:56 PM
List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0c6f6f5f-8100-4d32-8c1f-5fba38202905)
- The I-64 Wabash River Bridge replacement is finally taking bids but is still Item 1X
That was fast. It was just assessed last year. It is functionally obsolete, but I don't think it is at any immediate risk at the moment.
Look for a traditional concrete pylon structure with pre-stressed concrete beams. Since the river has been struck from the federal record for navigation since 1963 no need for a high and wide center span.
Quote from: edwaleni on February 02, 2024, 11:21:50 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 02, 2024, 10:01:56 PM
List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0c6f6f5f-8100-4d32-8c1f-5fba38202905)
- The I-64 Wabash River Bridge replacement is finally taking bids but is still Item 1X
That was fast. It was just assessed last year. It is functionally obsolete, but I don't think it is at any immediate risk at the moment.
Look for a traditional concrete pylon structure with pre-stressed concrete beams. Since the river has been struck from the federal record for navigation since 1963 no need for a high and wide center span.
An article from 2013!!
QuotePOSEYVILLE, Ind. — Erosion along the Wabash River has led to plans for replacing the Interstate 64 bridges linking southern Indiana and Illinois within the next few years.
Officials say the two bridges are less than 50 years old but that erosion around the bridge piers has accelerated with changes in the river's flow since 1985.
The Evansville Courier & Press reports that the Illinois Department of Transportation this year completed $2.5 million in emergency repairs on the I-64 bridge piers.
The estimated $71 million bridges replacement is included in the Illinois highway department's 2015-2019 projects plan. Illinois and Indiana will share the project cost, with Illinois overseeing the work.
Indiana highway agency spokeswoman Cher Elliott says money is budgeted for Indiana's share.
Interesting because it is same phenomena that caused the nearby Illinois Central railroad span to collapse.
(https://www.usgs.gov/s3/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/image23_0.jpeg?itok=SWY7Y26U)
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 02, 2024, 10:01:56 PM
List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0c6f6f5f-8100-4d32-8c1f-5fba38202905)
- Item 104 is reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43. The pay item listings suggest it's getting signals
Craters have begun to form on 95th Street :ded:[/list]
Quote from: ET21 on February 08, 2024, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 02, 2024, 10:01:56 PM
List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up. (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/0c6f6f5f-8100-4d32-8c1f-5fba38202905)
- Item 104 is reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43. The pay item listings suggest it's getting signals
Craters have begun to form on 95th Street :ded:
The interchange will be what I call a "direction-favoring parclo"...it's a west-oriented parclo where ramps to/from the west are directional, but one ramp is provided to/from the east that will meet Harlem at grade. The two cloverleaves on the west side are being eliminated. The alignment/tie/benchmark sheet helps elucidate this.
It will be a similar configuration to what they did at I-88 and Farnsworth (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7989288,-88.282744,15.5z?entry=ttu), but a mirror image of it.
List of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)
- Item 7 is a reconstruction of Gary Avenue from Harrison Avenue to Jewel Road in Wheaton
- Item 8 is a resurfacing with signal modifications on Main Street in Downers Grove from Sherman Road to Franklin Street
- Item 12 is signal modifications on Virginia Road in McHenry County, possibly another flashing yellow arrow project given the number of 4-section heads liste.
- Item 15 replaces sound walls along the IL 53 spur between IL 68 and Lake Cook Road
- Item 19 is bridge repairs for US 20 at the end of IL 390
- Item 25 is for safety improvements on US 20 just west of the Elgin bypass
- Item 61 replaces the signal mast arms at the IL 1 intersection with US 24 in Watseka
- Item 74 is signal mast arm replacement at the IL 98 interchange with I-155
- Item 75 replaces the traffic signal mast arms at the IL 29/Cedar Hills Drive intersection in Peoria County
- Item 85 is bridge repairs for I-55 over IL 104
- Item 88 is resurfacing on IL 4 in Girard with sidewalk work and adding parking lanes
- Item 91 resurfacing I-55 from near the Farmersville interchange to south of the Sangamon County line
- Item 121 is lighting work on I-55 from the PSB to the I-64 interchange
- Item 127 is more lighting work "along I-55/I-64/I-70"
- Item 135 is video detection replacement in the Collinsville District
- Item 137: "Demolition of buildings along Old IL 3 (South Main Street) near Imbs Station Road in Dupo." Possibly an advance contract for the Imbs Station Road/Davis Ferry Street interchange?
- Item 138 is traffic signal modernization for a few intersections in Madison and St. Clair Counties
- Item 139 appears to be bridge approach repairs near the northern end of IL 255
- Item 173 is a streetscape project on West State Street in Jacksonville
- Item 182 appears to be reconstruction on Richards Street north of I-80 in Joliet, along with repairs to the I-80 bridges over the Des Plaines
- Item 183 is some sort of improvement project on IL 43 in Bridgeview with signal work and ADA work
- Item 187 is intersection work for IL 83 at Bluff Road
- Item 188 is pavement reconstruction along with sidewalk and pedestrian signal work around the northern end of Dirksen Parkway in Springfield
- Item 189 (already deleted) would have been bridge substructure work for Dirksen Parkway over the railroad tracks south of Sangamon Avenue
- Item 190 is another rebid of resurfacing and other improvements for Business 55 from Stanford to Myrtle in Springfield
- Item 195 is bridge work for IL 83 over I-88
- Item 198 is bridge work for I-55 over the Sangamon River
- Item 204 reconstructs the Bell Road intersection with 143rd Street in Will County
- Item 205 is the 143rd Street extension between IL 59 and IL 126
- Item 206 installs a roundabout at the Cedar Road - Haven Avenue intersections in New Lenox
- Item 207 is a bridge replacement for Warrenville Road over the East Branch DuPage River in Lisle
- Item 208 reconstructs Randall Road in McHenry County from Acorn Lane/Polaris Drive to Ackman Road
- Item 210 appears to be an intersection improvement with a new traffic signal for Three Oaks Road at Lutter Road/Sands Road in Crystal Lake
- Item 222 is a widening and reconstruction for IL 56 between IL 53 and I-355
- Item 224 is bridge work for IL 59 over I-90
- Item 231 is for traffic signal and ADA work at the IL 83/IL 1 intersection
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PM
List of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)
- Item 205 is the 143rd Street extension between IL 59 and IL 126
This will also be for a re-routing of IL-126 off Main Street in Plainfield and onto 143rd Street and Wallin Drive (Lincoln Highway), IIRC. Plainfield wants to downgrade Main Street to a local street there. Makes a lot of sense as the Main Street/Lockport Street intersection isn't all that great: https://maps.app.goo.gl/7Cj6ub1EpWcBLmcAA
Street View from IL-126 wb: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5nWPkS1nHWHM34GJ6 Note that Lockport Street does not have stop signs here.
The location of the 143rd Street extension: https://maps.app.goo.gl/94MmVNKkortKPRis8 It's a utility corridor currently.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PM
List of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)
- Item 183 is some sort of improvement project on IL 43 in Bridgeview with signal work and ADA work
I wonder if that means they are going to do a big curb rebuild, lot of the sidewalks on that stretch through Bridgeview are very worn and this might finally be what is needed to redo them. Plus I'm sure they're going to be in collab with the crews resurfacing 79th St for all those curbs/ADAs
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PM
List of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)
- Item 7 is a reconstruction of Gary Avenue from Harrison Avenue to Jewel Road in Wheaton
Too funny. This road, from Harrison Avenue to Jewell Road was paid for by then Wheaton resident Elbert Gary, the founder of US Steel. He donated it to the State of Illinois at the time, though I imagine DuPage County maintains it today.
It was a big deal back at the turn of the last century because this part of the road crosses Lincoln Marsh, essentially a swamp around Winfield Creek. The City of Wheaton couldn't afford it at the time and the residents weren't interested because other than the Jewell Farm, it was all woods and farm land going north, but the "Judge" saw it different. It was extended to Geneva Trail, (now Geneva Road), then to Army Trail (now Army Trail Road) and finally all the way to IL-390 when it was built.
His original mansion still sits on his namesake street in Wheaton.
Quote from: Brandon on March 23, 2024, 08:16:06 AMQuote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PMList of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)- Item 205 is the 143rd Street extension between IL 59 and IL 126
This will also be for a re-routing of IL-126 off Main Street in Plainfield and onto 143rd Street and Wallin Drive (Lincoln Highway), IIRC. Plainfield wants to downgrade Main Street to a local street there. Makes a lot of sense as the Main Street/Lockport Street intersection isn't all that great: https://maps.app.goo.gl/7Cj6ub1EpWcBLmcAA
Street View from IL-126 wb: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5nWPkS1nHWHM34GJ6 Note that Lockport Street does not have stop signs here.
The location of the 143rd Street extension: https://maps.app.goo.gl/94MmVNKkortKPRis8 It's a utility corridor currently.
If I recall, wasn't this at one point the ROW that was for the now dead Fox Valley Expy? Or was that further north?
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PMList of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)
- Item 61 replaces the signal mast arms at the IL 1 intersection with US 24 in Watseka
I'm honestly quite sad to see these mast arms go; they're a few of the last remaining examples of the IDOT style trombone truss outside, especially outside of District 1.
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 26, 2024, 01:10:13 PMQuote from: Brandon on March 23, 2024, 08:16:06 AMQuote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PMList of Projects is up for the April 26, 2024 Letting (https://webapps1.dot.illinois.gov/WCTB/LbLettingDetail/Index/d0438961-bc6d-484b-8110-d1e7df4e6150)- Item 205 is the 143rd Street extension between IL 59 and IL 126
This will also be for a re-routing of IL-126 off Main Street in Plainfield and onto 143rd Street and Wallin Drive (Lincoln Highway), IIRC. Plainfield wants to downgrade Main Street to a local street there. Makes a lot of sense as the Main Street/Lockport Street intersection isn't all that great: https://maps.app.goo.gl/7Cj6ub1EpWcBLmcAA
Street View from IL-126 wb: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5nWPkS1nHWHM34GJ6 Note that Lockport Street does not have stop signs here.
The location of the 143rd Street extension: https://maps.app.goo.gl/94MmVNKkortKPRis8 It's a utility corridor currently.
If I recall, wasn't this at one point the ROW that was for the now dead Fox Valley Expy? Or was that further north?
A little further north.
This is what the 143rd Street plan from IL 59 to IL 126 looks like, from a public meeting https://www.plainfieldil.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/58/637375359891600000
IDOT is also working on a plan from the east end to I-55 to put in a fully directional interchange, as IL 126 currently only has access to and from the north.
Plainfield has an overall plan to shift the entire IL 126 corridor to 143rd Street, with a future connection of 143rd to existing IL 126 west of Ridge Road with broad S-curves. The overall plan has a website https://143corridor.plainfieldil.gov/corridor-overview/
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PMItem 182 appears to be reconstruction on Richards Street north of I-80 in Joliet, along with repairs to the I-80 bridges over the Des Plaines
Richards Street is one of those unmarked state routes. The bridge involved in the project carries Richards Street over Hickory Creek along a horizontal curve just north of I-80. Just to the west, the same creek passes under IL-53 just south of I-80, limiting the potential for rebuilds of that awful gauntlet that is that section of IL-53 (the railroad underpass is the main problem, though).
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PMItem 206 installs a roundabout at the Cedar Road - Haven Avenue intersections in New Lenox.
I was wondering about this! I drive through this cumbersome intersection often. I was also curious if we were going to get another roundabout in Will County. :bigass: Utility and tree removal work are already well underway with this.
Quote from: Hobart on March 26, 2024, 06:53:28 PMI'm honestly quite sad to see these mast arms go; they're a few of the last remaining examples of the IDOT style trombone truss outside, especially outside of District 1.
Western Avenue still has a couple of these in the Park Forest area, at Steger Road and at University Parkway.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 02, 2024, 11:38:19 PMQuote from: Revive 755 on March 22, 2024, 11:47:40 PMItem 206 installs a roundabout at the Cedar Road - Haven Avenue intersections in New Lenox.
I was wondering about this! I drive through this cumbersome intersection often. I was also curious if we were going to get another roundabout in Will County. :bigass: Utility and tree removal work are already well underway with this.
Sweet! That's my (very) old stomping grounds. I went to grade school (1st through 3rd) right there at that intersection.
My childhood home was where 4th Ave dead-ends at the tracks. I also remember when Haven actually connected to Lincoln Hwy at its western end.
Oh yeah, and I remember there being a pay phone in the parking lot of the library at Cedar & 4th. My friend and I once biked over and called the operator and spewed out all the dirty words we knew. Then we called 911 and did the same thing. We rode back to my house, changed our clothes (to disguise ourselves, of course), and went back again. We told someone who was parked at the pay phone that the darned pay phone had eaten our quarter. Her response: "Oh you'd better get out of here, the cops are looking for you!" Hoo boy, we high-tailed it out of there.
Then there was the time I got tired of stopping and looking both ways when crossing Cedar on 4th, because there was never anyone coming, so I just decided to not stop and look. That made a driver slam on the brakes and do a screeching 180° (or more) in the middle of Cedar Road, and the bumper still came within probably a foot of me. "You asshole!" he shouted out the window, but away I rode. Man, it's amazing I survived childhood...