From Deseret News:
No bull, no service for 106 milesQuoteConsider today's column a public service announcement: If you're ever driving on I-70 between the towns of Salina and Green River, do yourself a favor and check your gas gauge. It could save you a lot of grief.
That's because out of the thousands and thousands of miles that make up America's vast interstate highway system – almost 50,000 at last count – there is no longer stretch of blacktop without services than the one between Green River on the east and Salina on the west right here in Utah.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (http://markholtz.info/mb)
Although several people have pointed out that there are places to turn around on I-70 between Salina and Green River. Still, if I'm traveling there, my plan: Salina/Green River is a mandatory fill-up point.
Of course, everyone here knows that already, right?
good practice for the remote parts of Alaska and Canada (200-250 miles without services is not uncommon) and then South America can get even more remote. I've heard Africa is more remote than even that, but I've never tried it.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 11, 2014, 07:46:44 PM
good practice for the remote parts of Alaska and Canada (200-250 miles without services is not uncommon) and then South America can get even more remote.
Even some other places in the lower 48, like the 167-mile gas-free stretch of US 6 between Tonopah NV and Ely NV. Death Valley is also a good place to check your fuel gauge before heading in, though there is some extremely expensive gas in Furnace Creek. Even rural Oregon can give you unwelcome surprises on fuel availability.
So I'd generalize agentsteel's advice to cover lots of rural western places.
I think Green River survives off being a fill-up point. I went through there a couple years ago and there were multiple gas stations at both exits and one in the town. Not much else, though.
Quote from: SD Mapman on February 11, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
I think Green River survives off being a fill-up point. I went through there a couple years ago and there were multiple gas stations at both exits and one in the town. Not much else, though.
plenty of motels, which further reinforces the point being made.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 11, 2014, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on February 11, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
I think Green River survives off being a fill-up point. I went through there a couple years ago and there were multiple gas stations at both exits and one in the town. Not much else, though.
plenty of motels, which further reinforces the point being made.
There really isn't much else in Green River. I was surprised by that by going into town this last April.
Quote from: Rover_0 on February 12, 2014, 12:19:17 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 11, 2014, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on February 11, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
I think Green River survives off being a fill-up point. I went through there a couple years ago and there were multiple gas stations at both exits and one in the town. Not much else, though.
plenty of motels, which further reinforces the point being made.
There really isn't much else in Green River. I was surprised by that by going into town this last April.
There are ranch roads along 70 through there. I figured the ranch people need to occasionally go somewhere besides the ranch.
Tonopah to Ely is bad, but going through from the California line to Tonopah is 80 gasless miles on 6 (like the former trip, it even contains at least one abandoned gas station).
From Ely to Salina past Sevier Lake is no great bounty either, with probably 100 miles in there somewhere without gas. It makes the three-gas-points-in-70-miles Delta-Salina, Utah stretch of the trip east from there feel like a metropolis.
The tradeoff for all this is a breathtaking 500 miles of scenery. Unless you hate sagebrush, in which case it's just long.
Checking Google Streetview....
Green River going west:
"No Services on I-70 next 106 miles" prior to exit 160 (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Salina,+UT+84654&daddr=Green+River,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.991396,-110.176982&spn=0.003235,0.013937&sll=38.992549,-110.294537&sspn=1.844344,3.56781&geocode=Fa1yUgIdKydV-SnPeoKCHXZLhzEtYIwdkYZSKg%3BFWkGUwId7Rhv-SnF7TT5-_BIhzG69V5DmBhapQ&oq=Green+&t=h&mra=ls&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.991394,-110.176987&panoid=iWpnDFrHo-p9h5LFzm8BbA&cbp=11,291.86,,0,3.35)
"No Services on I-70 next 100 miles" after exit 157 (US-6/US-191) (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Salina,+UT+84654&daddr=Green+River,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.969861,-110.266246&spn=0.003236,0.013937&sll=38.992549,-110.294537&sspn=1.844344,3.56781&geocode=Fa1yUgIdKydV-SnPeoKCHXZLhzEtYIwdkYZSKg%3BFWkGUwId7Rhv-SnF7TT5-_BIhzG69V5DmBhapQ&oq=Green+&t=h&mra=ls&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.969858,-110.266247&panoid=IuZuDNii9sS-LcqbHPEqXQ&cbp=11,262.39,,0,2.74)
Salina goes east:
"No Bull" Billboard (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Salina,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.916548,-111.881161&spn=0.012822,0.055747&sll=38.970087,-110.65567&sspn=0.909676,1.783905&hnear=Salina,+Sevier+County,+Utah&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.91654,-111.881181&panoid=X9Ck5R4bgIaoDBDzOdntHg&cbp=11,49.95,,0,5.47)
Blurred Blue sign.... no services? (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Salina,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.933108,-111.86024&spn=0.00641,0.027874&sll=38.970087,-110.65567&sspn=0.909676,1.783905&hnear=Salina,+Sevier+County,+Utah&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.930833,-111.865538&panoid=do0ANP4YZTQUKPF6OhkNOA&cbp=11,77.62,,0,-2.91) (Thanks, Google)
Either way, in that part of the country, the halfway rule applies.... if your needle is halfway empty, FILL UP!
(And, yes, I'm planning a trip through that part of the country including US-50.)
Quote from: ZLoth on February 11, 2014, 07:33:01 PMOf course, everyone here knows that already, right?
Never assume, nobody knows it all...
Quote from: Rover_0 on February 12, 2014, 12:19:17 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 11, 2014, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on February 11, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
I think Green River survives off being a fill-up point. I went through there a couple years ago and there were multiple gas stations at both exits and one in the town. Not much else, though.
plenty of motels, which further reinforces the point being made.
There really isn't much else in Green River. I was surprised by that by going into town this last April.
I had lunch there at a Subway knockoff. It was actually pretty good, despite being in the only (sketchy) gas station in the middle of the town.
Quote from: oscar on February 11, 2014, 07:58:07 PM
Death Valley is also a good place to check your fuel gauge before heading in, though there is some extremely expensive gas in Furnace Creek.
The gas pumps at Stovepipe Wells are generally cheaper, though only marginally. There's also a couple pumps at Panamint Springs. But once you're off 190, you're in a fuel-free zone until Beatty or Baker...
Quote from: ZLoth on February 12, 2014, 03:50:56 AM
Checking Google Streetview....
Green River going west:
"No Services on I-70 next 106 miles" prior to exit 160 (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Salina,+UT+84654&daddr=Green+River,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.991396,-110.176982&spn=0.003235,0.013937&sll=38.992549,-110.294537&sspn=1.844344,3.56781&geocode=Fa1yUgIdKydV-SnPeoKCHXZLhzEtYIwdkYZSKg%3BFWkGUwId7Rhv-SnF7TT5-_BIhzG69V5DmBhapQ&oq=Green+&t=h&mra=ls&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.991394,-110.176987&panoid=iWpnDFrHo-p9h5LFzm8BbA&cbp=11,291.86,,0,3.35)
"No Services on I-70 next 100 miles" after exit 157 (US-6/US-191) (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Salina,+UT+84654&daddr=Green+River,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.969861,-110.266246&spn=0.003236,0.013937&sll=38.992549,-110.294537&sspn=1.844344,3.56781&geocode=Fa1yUgIdKydV-SnPeoKCHXZLhzEtYIwdkYZSKg%3BFWkGUwId7Rhv-SnF7TT5-_BIhzG69V5DmBhapQ&oq=Green+&t=h&mra=ls&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.969858,-110.266247&panoid=IuZuDNii9sS-LcqbHPEqXQ&cbp=11,262.39,,0,2.74)
Salina goes east:
"No Bull" Billboard (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Salina,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.916548,-111.881161&spn=0.012822,0.055747&sll=38.970087,-110.65567&sspn=0.909676,1.783905&hnear=Salina,+Sevier+County,+Utah&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.91654,-111.881181&panoid=X9Ck5R4bgIaoDBDzOdntHg&cbp=11,49.95,,0,5.47)
Blurred Blue sign.... no services? (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Salina,+UT&hl=en&ll=38.933108,-111.86024&spn=0.00641,0.027874&sll=38.970087,-110.65567&sspn=0.909676,1.783905&hnear=Salina,+Sevier+County,+Utah&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.930833,-111.865538&panoid=do0ANP4YZTQUKPF6OhkNOA&cbp=11,77.62,,0,-2.91) (Thanks, Google)
Things aren't much better east of Green River. CDOT makes a point of mentioning there are no services between Loma, CO and Thompson Springs, UT. Think Green River is bad? Thompson Springs is nothing but a gas station at the bottom of the ramps.
So if you want a good way to make money, open a gas station halfway :)
Quote from: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
So if you want a good way to make money, open a gas station halfway :)
I wonder what the traffic volumes are along I-70 west of Grand Junction heading toward Green River, Utah. Specifically I wonder what proportion of total traffic is truck/commercial traffic? This might answer the question about whether such an additional gas station or truck stop would be viable. Based on my visits to this area, the traffic counts appear to be lower than I-80 near Rock Springs or Green River, Wyoming.
Regards,
Andy
I don't remember it being an isolated highway at all. I believe I-25 was more isolated near Casper. But I'm sure there are plenty of studies.
I'd hate to get stranded out there! It seems that longer distances between services are more common out West than they are in the East.
Quote from: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
So if you want a good way to make money, open a gas station halfway :)
You'd need to get electrical power out there, to run the pumps and other facilities. That part of I-70 was punched through a previously road-less and unpopulated area. Not a power line to be seen, at the I-70/UT 10 intersection (an otherwise logical place for a gas station).
Diesel generators could be an option. But the cost of that, or running a new power line from the nearest town Emery, might crank up gas prices at that station enough that almost everybody will continue to refuel in Salina and Green River as they do now.
Quote from: oscar on February 24, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
So if you want a good way to make money, open a gas station halfway :)
You'd need to get electrical power out there, to run the pumps and other facilities. That part of I-70 was punched through a previously road-less and unpopulated area. Not a power line to be seen, at the I-70/UT 10 intersection (an otherwise logical place for a gas station).
Diesel generators could be an option. But the cost of that, or running a new power line from the nearest town Emery, might crank up gas prices at that station enough that almost everybody will continue to refuel in Salina and Green River as they do now.
Then there's the cost of living there or getting there from an already livable place. The overhead on this idea seems so high that it would be difficult even to break even. There are a couple of abandoned gas stations on similar long empty stretches of US 6 in Nevada that are testimony to this fact.
That's the thing with get-rich-quick schemes — if they were easy and/or sensible, everyone would be rich already.
I believe its 108 not 106. Yes its true and I think it holds the record for longest without services on any interstate.
As far as finding a business, go to I-49 in LA as well. There is a long stretch from Alexandria to Shreveport that could also use it as Nachitoches is the only place that has gas, food. lodging, etc still with many miles of nothing between. Also the new I-49 you can get in on the ground floor as it just opened north of Shreveport and you have the stretch of US 71 from Shreveport to Texarkana that never had anything but small town amenities for the 70 miles between the two cities.
Quote from: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 11:42:00 PM
I don't remember it being an isolated highway at all. I believe I-25 was more isolated near Casper. But I'm sure there are plenty of studies.
Having been to both places recently, the Green River stretch wins hands down.
I-25 is isolated, no doubt about that, but its segments without services are not as long as I-70 in Utah. Even north of Cheyenne, you have only 40 miles to Chugwater without services.
When I-69E gets built in Kenedy County, TX it will not even be as long as Green River to Salina either.
Quote from: roadman65 on February 24, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
I believe its 108 not 106. Yes its true and I think it holds the record for longest without services on any interstate.
As far as finding a business, go to I-49 in LA as well. There is a long stretch from Alexandria to Shreveport that could also use it as Nachitoches is the only place that has gas, food. lodging, etc still with many miles of nothing between. Also the new I-49 you can get in on the ground floor as it just opened north of Shreveport and you have the stretch of US 71 from Shreveport to Texarkana that never had anything but small town amenities for the 70 miles between the two cities.
106 according to the last sign in Green River heading westbound. I don't know if that is precisely correct or not.
if you want a surprising place where it's very, very difficult to find a gas station: Los Angeles. there are enough eucalyptus trees along the freeway edges that one does not see the gas station advertising signs - and CA does not put up the helpful "services this exit" blue signs in urban areas.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 25, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
if you want a surprising place where it's very, very difficult to find a gas station: Los Angeles. there are enough eucalyptus trees along the freeway edges that one does not see the gas station advertising signs - and CA does not put up the helpful "services this exit" blue signs in urban areas.
Specific to LA though...what are the longest stretches where you'd have a hard time finding a station within 1-2 blocks of the exit? My first guess for one example would be the Sepulveda Pass section of 405.
Quote from: TheStranger on February 25, 2014, 11:31:38 AMwhat are the longest stretches where you'd have a hard time finding a station within 1-2 blocks of the exit?
I don't know of a single gas station in Irvine. I'm sure they exist, but once I drove around for 30 minutes before finally finding one in Tustin or so.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 25, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 25, 2014, 11:31:38 AMwhat are the longest stretches where you'd have a hard time finding a station within 1-2 blocks of the exit?
I don't know of a single gas station in Irvine. I'm sure they exist, but once I drove around for 30 minutes before finally finding one in Tustin or so.
Definitely in the hard-to-see category: took Google Maps to discover there are stations near 405 at exits 3 and 5.
241 has a 16-mile stretch without services from Alton Parkway to the north terminus at 91.
Quote from: TheStranger on February 25, 2014, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 25, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 25, 2014, 11:31:38 AMwhat are the longest stretches where you'd have a hard time finding a station within 1-2 blocks of the exit?
I don't know of a single gas station in Irvine. I'm sure they exist, but once I drove around for 30 minutes before finally finding one in Tustin or so.
Definitely in the hard-to-see category: took Google Maps to discover there are stations near 405 at exits 3 and 5.
241 has a 16-mile stretch without services from Alton Parkway to the north terminus at 91.
I think it's SR 94 in Colorado that has a long stretch of road with no services. There is a sign just east of town announcing "no services next xx mile". I was there about 5-6 years ago, but never got a photo :(
I-78 in New Jersey between Clinton and Jersey City is hard to find services. Gas is okay and marked well, but finding a place to eat when hungry east of Clinton is hard unless you know the area pretty well. Then lodging is a whole different story as well.
In TN, I-40 from Jackson to Nashville is a long distance with no services. I often have to pee in the bushes along this stretch because there is no other option.
I-49 in LA is pretty bad, too. And the only rest area is closed. Really makes you appreciate the frequent rest areas in Florida.
US-6 Westbound - Ely, NV (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tonopah,+NV&hl=en&ll=39.228729,-114.899182&spn=0.015259,0.066047&sll=38.693169,-121.287384&sspn=0.135992,0.264187&oq=tono&hnear=Tonopah,+Nye+County,+Nevada&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.228724,-114.899174&panoid=_FhkG50dmOGrs27A87PwjA&cbp=11,206.96,,0,10.64) - "Next Gas 167 Miles On US 6"
Unfortunately, the Google Maps is extremely blurry at the Tonopah end.
Here is an existing thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5335.0) about this also.
Quote from: ZLoth on February 25, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
Unfortunately, the Google Maps is extremely blurry at the Tonopah end.
and I totally failed to look around to see if there was an update to the older "70" sign that was there several months ago.
I spotted the 167 heading out of Ely the other day.
Quote from: ZLoth on February 25, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
US-6 Westbound - Ely, NV (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tonopah,+NV&hl=en&ll=39.228729,-114.899182&spn=0.015259,0.066047&sll=38.693169,-121.287384&sspn=0.135992,0.264187&oq=tono&hnear=Tonopah,+Nye+County,+Nevada&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.228724,-114.899174&panoid=_FhkG50dmOGrs27A87PwjA&cbp=11,206.96,,0,10.64) - "Next Gas 167 Miles On US 6"
Unfortunately, the Google Maps is extremely blurry at the Tonopah end.
Here is an existing thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5335.0) about this also.
Excitedly stopped for gas and general civilization in Tonopah, the only town in a 280-mile stretch of desert, we asked a chatty kid what "Tonopah" means.
"No water here," he replied matter-of-factly.
Our excitement was tempered noticeably.
(It should be noted that this is close to, but not quite, the actual meaning of the name, but it was the better answer.)
Quote from: roadman65 on February 25, 2014, 12:40:44 AM
I-25 is isolated, no doubt about that, but its segments without services are not as long as I-70 in Utah. Even north of Cheyenne, you have only 40 miles to Chugwater without services.
When I-69E gets built in Kenedy County, TX it will not even be as long as Green River to Salina either.
even though I agree that I-70 near Green River, Utah is more desolate than I-25 near Chugwater, Wyoming, I have to note that the gas station in Chugwater at the southern business loop interchange seemed to be permanently closed when I passed through there last summer. A rest area is also located at this interchange, and it was open.
More on this gas station from an article from January 2013 at: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/authorities-man-drives-car-into-chugwater-gas-station-causes-explosion/article_01f0b317-72ae-5c4b-b185-50de23351ba7.html
QuoteCASPER, Wyo. – Highway advisories flash between Douglas and Cheyenne on Interstate 25: No fuel in Chugwater.
Early Sunday evening, 42-year-old John Barberini, of Casper, drove his car into the front of Horton's Corner convenience store and gas station, causing an explosion and a blaze that engulfed the building, according to authorities. It's the only service station between Cheyenne and Wheatland. For 21 years it has been a lifeline for the 244 people in Chugwater and a staple for travelers on the interstate.
Authorities say the car exploded after slamming through the front doors of the store. Two employees and one customer were inside at the time of the incident. No injuries were reported.
QuoteAll that remains of Horton's Corner is a pile of disheveled debris. Post cards from the gift shop sit in the turnstile, wrinkled from the heat. Shards of the metal roof clamor in the wind. A melted Sinclair sign still sits atop of the rubble. The smell of smoke is noxious.
"How no one was injured is a miracle," said LaCynda Fortik, manager of Buffalo Lodge Inn and Grill, which sits across from Horton's Corner. "Someone could have been killed so easily."
Horton's and the Buffalo Inn would share customers, directing people to one business or the other.
"We worked together wonderfully," Fortik said. "It's not going to be good for Chugwater."
It's how businesses should work in small towns, said Roxanne Vassler, an employee at the inn.
"Everybody helps everybody," she said.
The local customers at Horton's Corner have had to go to the inn to get their morning newspaper and coffee.
"They have no other choice," Vassler said. "We lost a member of our community."
On New Year's Day, three travelers came to the inn looking for spare fuel.
"We've been keeping extra in the back," Fortik said. "Everyone expects there to be fuel in town."
The closest sources of fuel are 30 miles to the north in Wheatland and 45 miles to the south in Cheyenne.
Judy Horton, whose husband started the gas station in 1991, was in shock when she heard the news Sunday.
QuoteWith the loss of the gas station, Chugwater lost one-fourth of its businesses. Besides the Buffalo Lodge Inn and Grill and Chugwater Chili, there's the Soda Fountain – the oldest in the state.
Horton's Corner employed 14 people. "We have a wonderful staff," said Jane Olind, co-owner of Horton's Corner. "Many of them have been with us for years." The owners promised to take care of their employees until they decide whether they will rebuild.
"It's terrible that this many people in town are without jobs," Fortik said.
Horton's Corner was more than a gas station to the community.
"I've told everyone that I will stock what they used to get at Horton's," said Barbara Dayton, owner of the Soda Fountain. Behind the counter at the soda fountain were handmade signs for eggs, lettuce and onions. "We can't supply all their needs, but we will do our best."
Regards,
Andy
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 26, 2014, 12:39:12 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on February 25, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
US-6 Westbound - Ely, NV (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tonopah,+NV&hl=en&ll=39.228729,-114.899182&spn=0.015259,0.066047&sll=38.693169,-121.287384&sspn=0.135992,0.264187&oq=tono&hnear=Tonopah,+Nye+County,+Nevada&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.228724,-114.899174&panoid=_FhkG50dmOGrs27A87PwjA&cbp=11,206.96,,0,10.64) - "Next Gas 167 Miles On US 6"
Unfortunately, the Google Maps is extremely blurry at the Tonopah end.
Here is an existing thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5335.0) about this also.
Excitedly stopped for gas and general civilization in Tonopah, the only town in a 280-mile stretch of desert, we asked a chatty kid what "Tonopah" means.
"No water here," he replied matter-of-factly.
Our excitement was tempered noticeably.
(It should be noted that this is close to, but not quite, the actual meaning of the name, but it was the better a answer.)
I'm surprised his definition of "Tonopah" didn't have something to do with the dark, clear, starry nights. That has become part of the local tourism campaign to bring people to their remote corner of the Silver State.
Regards,
Andy
there's a Tonopah in Arizona as well. no water there either.
as for the moron who ran his car into the only gas station for 80 miles... what a loser. I hope he is sentenced to build one himself, brick by brick.
Quote from: andy3175 on February 23, 2014, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
So if you want a good way to make money, open a gas station halfway :)
I wonder what the traffic volumes are along I-70 west of Grand Junction heading toward Green River, Utah. Specifically I wonder what proportion of total traffic is truck/commercial traffic? This might answer the question about whether such an additional gas station or truck stop would be viable. Based on my visits to this area, the traffic counts appear to be lower than I-80 near Rock Springs or Green River, Wyoming.
Regards,
Andy
Going strictly by eyewitness reports, Truck traffic does drop a bit on I-70 west of Grand Junction, spikes a bit on the US-191 multiplex stretch, then drops like a rock after US-6 & US-191 leave I-70 by Green River.
Western Colorado is finally getting it's first national truck stop chain in a month or two (Love's) with word of a second (Pilot/Flying J) slated to be built directly across from Love's (won't hold my breath on that one). There are a couple of local "Mom & Pop" truck stops, but the size and layout are miniscule compared to Love's. So there is a sizable amount of truck/commercial traffic going between Utah and Colorado, but not enough to reduce the sizes of the service deserts in Utah. Cisco, Utah (about 1/2 way between GJ and Green River is literally a ghost town along I-70).
I was exploring Siberia last night and found a stretch of road that blows the US examples away.
There's this random road* in Siberia with a very long trek through the taiga on a dirt road (http://goo.gl/maps/lwtCj). (no, I don't know what that sign says)
Here's a sign at one cross street: http://goo.gl/maps/Zowpd
Thats 490 km from the cross street. It's 40km from the nearest town (on the cross street) and 30 km from what looks like an oil field.
Anyone up for a trans-Siberian roadtrip?
*Actually more like collection of road segments at its western/southern end since Google's cartography of the area is just that shitty, but I'm pretty sure it's one road on this section.
490km seems about right. I've read some reports of motorcyclists heading out that way.
http://www.sibirskyextreme.com/
I think there's a stretch of road in Kenya and Tanzania that has 600km between gas stations.
Quote from: vdeane on February 26, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
I was exploring Siberia last night and found a stretch of road that blows the US examples away.
There's this random road* in Siberia with a very long trek through the taiga on a dirt road (http://goo.gl/maps/lwtCj). (no, I don't know what that sign says)
Here's a sign at one cross street: http://goo.gl/maps/Zowpd
Thats 490 km from the cross street. It's 40km from the nearest town (on the cross street) and 30 km from what looks like an oil field.
Anyone up for a trans-Siberian roadtrip?
*Actually more like collection of road segments at its western/southern end since Google's cartography of the area is just that shitty, but I'm pretty sure it's one road on this section.
Going through Google Translate, the top of the sign says:
CAUTION
for the first one.
The second one is:
NADYM 490 ^
VKAZYMSKY 40 ^
BELOYARSKOE 40 <-
All town names (transliterated to Latin characters here on AARoads)
I figured that for the second given the distances and the town names on Google. My keyboard doesn't do cryllic, so it's hard to get the first into translate.
Australia:
The Burke Developmental Road. No fuel for 560 km / 350 miles
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This road between the Northern Territory and Western Australia has no unleaded gas for a staggering 815 kilometers / 500 miles. Even most fuel-efficient cars won't make it that far on a tank unless they have an unusually large fuel tank. (most fuel-efficient cars tend to have small fuel tanks).
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Quote from: TheStranger on February 25, 2014, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 25, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 25, 2014, 11:31:38 AMwhat are the longest stretches where you'd have a hard time finding a station within 1-2 blocks of the exit?
I don't know of a single gas station in Irvine. I'm sure they exist, but once I drove around for 30 minutes before finally finding one in Tustin or so.
Definitely in the hard-to-see category: took Google Maps to discover there are stations near 405 at exits 3 and 5.
241 has a 16-mile stretch without services from Alton Parkway to the north terminus at 91.
Yeah, they're hard to find for sure.
Also, if you are southbound on the 5 from Los Angeles to San Diego at night, fill up in San Clemente. Once you pass exit 72, there are no 24 hour stations for 20 miles till Oceanside because of Camp Pendleton.
My Mapquest tells me that if you are traveling I-70 and you are near the UT 10 exit and miss filling up in Salina, UT, a little side trip up UT 10 to the next little town of Ferron, UT they have a Gas station. And actually, UT 10 on I-70 is probably the best place to put a Gas Station in since there are some little towns nearby and probably some rural electric coop would string some wires to the site along the Interstate.
QuoteThere are ranch roads along 70 through there. I figured the ranch people need to occasionally go somewhere besides the ranch.
I do know as a former Chicken Farmer in Mississippi, that we had to get Diesel Fuel trucked to the farm and we had a country store where we got our Gas. I imagine that some Ranches in that part of Utah has to truck Gasoline in as well as diesel for the tractors ,or wait until they went to town to get Gas for the car or pickup. As for Gas, the local jobber in town would bring to the farm or ranch a small tank truck and fill the tanks with Diesel and/or Gasoline as the need of the farmer or the Rancher would need. So the Rancher is covered.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 26, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
there's a Tonopah in Arizona as well. no water there either.
Well, plenty of hot water underground. There are two hot springs resorts in Tonopah AZ (both of which I've soaked at), and room and hot water for more if there were demand.
Quote from: richllewis on March 25, 2014, 07:53:02 AM
My Mapquest tells me that if you are traveling I-70 and you are near the UT 10 exit and miss filling up in Salina, UT, a little side trip up UT 10 to the next little town of Ferron, UT they have a Gas station.
Last I was there in 1998, that little gas station had limited hours and was closed on Sundays. Both are potential issues in small rural towns off the Interstates anywhere in Utah.
The entire state of California should be treated as a no fill-up zone considering how expensive gas is there.