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epzik8

Quote from: NJRoadfan on November 05, 2024, 06:27:46 PMReading the Buc-ees thread, people were complaining about the lack of tables and seating to eat.

This was my one and only complaint about the Florence store when I went there last year.
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Quote from: epzik8 on November 07, 2024, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: NJRoadfan on November 05, 2024, 06:27:46 PMReading the Buc-ees thread, people were complaining about the lack of tables and seating to eat.

This was my one and only complaint about the Florence store when I went there last year.

I wonder if they want to reduce the "mall dad" effect: Walking gawkers are more likely to spend than those sitting on their wallet.

They'd probably need lots of tables to offset the waiting freeloaders and picnickers along with the paying customers.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: NJRoadfan on November 05, 2024, 06:27:46 PMReading the Buc-ees thread, people were complaining about the lack of tables and seating to eat. Folks at Wawa adapt and just have a DelCo picnic using the top of trashcans as a makeshift table. Some of the newer stores (particularly in FL) finally have some outdoor seating areas.

Wawa at the time mentioned this change about actual seating - they recognized the Florida market is generally slower-paced than the Philly/DC area market, and they had determined people would want to sit and eat at the store. 

Revised PA law made it easier for convenience stores to sell beer, but they also have an odd rule (because PA just needs to continue being odd) that requires stores to have a seating area for people to drink a beer after purchasing it.  Shocker - people aren't purchasing beer then drinking it at the store.  But they are now building and modifying PA stores for this seating area.

I also came across this article from Wawa's rival:  https://www.delawareonline.com/story/money/business/2023/03/16/sheetz-is-coming-to-elkton-approaching-delaware-and-wawa/69977812007/ .  The question was raised if Sheetz is coming to Delaware. The question wasn't answered by Sheetz, and "industry observers" think they may come to Delaware.  19 months later, and so far they're incorrect.  While some believe they won't enter NJ because of the full-service law, they haven't entered NY & DE either, so they may have other reasons also.

Rothman

Stewart's ice cream > Sheetz
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Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 07, 2024, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: NJRoadfan on November 05, 2024, 06:27:46 PMReading the Buc-ees thread, people were complaining about the lack of tables and seating to eat. Folks at Wawa adapt and just have a DelCo picnic using the top of trashcans as a makeshift table. Some of the newer stores (particularly in FL) finally have some outdoor seating areas.

Wawa at the time mentioned this change about actual seating - they recognized the Florida market is generally slower-paced than the Philly/DC area market, and they had determined people would want to sit and eat at the store. 

Revised PA law made it easier for convenience stores to sell beer, but they also have an odd rule (because PA just needs to continue being odd) that requires stores to have a seating area for people to drink a beer after purchasing it.  Shocker - people aren't purchasing beer then drinking it at the store.  But they are now building and modifying PA stores for this seating area.

I also came across this article from Wawa's rival:  https://www.delawareonline.com/story/money/business/2023/03/16/sheetz-is-coming-to-elkton-approaching-delaware-and-wawa/69977812007/ .  The question was raised if Sheetz is coming to Delaware. The question wasn't answered by Sheetz, and "industry observers" think they may come to Delaware.  19 months later, and so far they're incorrect.  While some believe they won't enter NJ because of the full-service law, they haven't entered NY & DE either, so they may have other reasons also.

Not Wawa-related, but I bought beer at a ShopRite in Scranton, PA last week. There were a couple of guys drinking a beer in the seating area of the beer section. In the morning. So I guess it is legal in some context.

Mr. Matté

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 07, 2024, 06:41:49 PMWhile some believe they won't enter NJ because of the full-service law, they haven't entered NY & DE either, so they may have other reasons also.

I think New York's issue is that they require full fire suppression infrastructure at (I guess new) gas station canopies. I don't know if Delaware has any weird laws on gas stations.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Mr. Matté on November 08, 2024, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 07, 2024, 06:41:49 PMWhile some believe they won't enter NJ because of the full-service law, they haven't entered NY & DE either, so they may have other reasons also.

I think New York's issue is that they require full fire suppression infrastructure at (I guess new) gas station canopies. I don't know if Delaware has any weird laws on gas stations.

Yeah - there's where I start wondering if these are just reasons people are making up for Sheetz.  Most gas station companies aren't in all markets, so nearly all of them have various reasons why they choose what territories they are going to build in.

02 Park Ave

I consider Wawa and Sheetz to be at a comparable level of quality.  Sheetz though does offer a greater variety of gasolines at their pumps.

I would put Stewarts and Royal Farms to be at a lower level of quality.  Stewarts does offer ethanol-free premium gasoline in most counties in New York State though.

I am not familiar with Quick Chek.  However they will be coming to southern New Jersey so that will change.
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vdeane

Quote from: 02 Park Ave on November 08, 2024, 07:08:02 PMI would put Stewarts and Royal Farms to be at a lower level of quality.  Stewarts does offer ethanol-free premium gasoline in most counties in New York State though.

I am not familiar with Quick Chek.  However they will be coming to southern New Jersey so that will change.
Yeah, Stewarts isn't quite on the level with Sheetz and Wawa (though unlike most Wawa locations and even some Sheetz locations, they do offer in-store seating).  And it feels like it's sliding down a bit... the food quality isn't what I remember it being even 5 years ago, the windshield squeegees aren't maintained as well, and when I tried to refuel today, gas was cash only.

IMO QuickChek is up there with Sheetz and Wawa.  Maybe slightly below, but only just.  And we're getting one in the Capital District soon - right off Northway exit 3!
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: vdeane on November 08, 2024, 08:46:49 PMIMO QuickChek is up there with Sheetz and Wawa.  Maybe slightly below, but only just.  And we're getting one in the Capital District soon - right off Northway exit 3!

I don't think I've bought food at QuickChek, but this was my take on it too from what I've seen and heard. 



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