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Legally according to the Indiana State Government Washington's Birthday is on Christmas Eve. And we "celebrate" Lincoln's Birthday next week on the day after Thanksgiving. On a state government level there is no holiday in February.

Rothman

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hbelkins

Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Rothman

Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?
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hbelkins

Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

1995hoo

The full name is "Juneteenth National Independence Day." A number of members of Congress voted against the bill making it a holiday because of the inclusion of "Independence Day" in the name, given that we already had a holiday called that.
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commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Rothman

Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

I suppose we all have our gripes. :D
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

It's literally the name of the holiday.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

It's literally the name of the holiday.

He's annoyed at a portmanteau apparently.

Rothman

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 22, 2024, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

It's literally the name of the holiday.

He's annoyed at a portmanteau apparently.

"Apparently" is such a loose term...
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 22, 2024, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

It's literally the name of the holiday.

He's annoyed at a portmanteau apparently.

Right. But that's its name. Like Thanksgiving.

Rothman

Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 22, 2024, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

It's literally the name of the holiday.

He's annoyed at a portmanteau apparently.

Right. But that's its name. Like Thanksgiving.

RIP English language!
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 22, 2024, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on November 22, 2024, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth

Because of the whole Independence Day/July 4th thing.

I'm not following you.  What are you saying the effect of Independence Day on Juneteenth is?

I was saying that while everyone calls it "July 4th" or "Fourth of July," the real name for the holiday is Independence Day.

I had no idea that that abomination (Juneteenth) was the official name of the holiday. I really thought it was something like "Texas Emancipation Day" or something similar. They should at least have had the decency to call it "June 19th" instead of that ridiculous-sounding "Juneteenth." RIP the English language...

It's literally the name of the holiday.

He's annoyed at a portmanteau apparently.

Right. But that's its name. Like Thanksgiving.

RIP English language!

Right. We have been celebrating this darn holiday for over 150 years and I can barely understand anyone any longer!

vdeane

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 22, 2024, 02:20:39 PMThe full name is "Juneteenth National Independence Day." A number of members of Congress voted against the bill making it a holiday because of the inclusion of "Independence Day" in the name, given that we already had a holiday called that.
I feel like "Juneteenth National Emancipation Day" would be more clear.  When I saw that I was thinking "Independence?  Did the freed slaves declare themselves a sovereign nation or something?".
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: webny99 on November 21, 2024, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 20, 2024, 10:34:03 PMI dunno.  Look at rush hours around any major city.  Definitely a lot less traffic.  You may be able to see it in traffic counts as well.

Yeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%

Being the stock and bond markets are closed, that greatly expands the number of businesses that are closed both holidays. Not just banks, but businesses that revokved around working with the markets, especially financial firms. Most large cities aren't home to federal government offices, so that can't explain the lack of commuters. And many state governments have off these holidays also, which again aren't often located in major cities.

1995hoo

Quote from: vdeane on November 22, 2024, 09:53:54 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 22, 2024, 02:20:39 PMThe full name is "Juneteenth National Independence Day." A number of members of Congress voted against the bill making it a holiday because of the inclusion of "Independence Day" in the name, given that we already had a holiday called that.
I feel like "Juneteenth National Emancipation Day" would be more clear.  When I saw that I was thinking "Independence?  Did the freed slaves declare themselves a sovereign nation or something?".

Agreed. I wonder whether the existence of certain state, territorial, or local holidays called "Emancipation Day" might have factored into their thought process.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

hbelkins

Quote from: webny99 on November 21, 2024, 09:04:00 AMYeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%.

Interesting coincidence: The inauguration for the 47th president will occur on MLK Day this year. I would think this would lessen traffic impacts, unless Inauguration Day is already a federal holiday the way the gubernatorial inauguration day is in Kentucky.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

1995hoo

Quote from: hbelkins on November 25, 2024, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: webny99 on November 21, 2024, 09:04:00 AMYeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%.

Interesting coincidence: The inauguration for the 47th president will occur on MLK Day this year. I would think this would lessen traffic impacts, unless Inauguration Day is already a federal holiday the way the gubernatorial inauguration day is in Kentucky.

Inauguration Day is a federal holiday for US government employees in the District of Columbia; Arlington and Fairfax Counties in Virginia; the Cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, and Falls Church in Virginia; and Montgomery and Prince George's Counties in Maryland. The reason it's a holiday for them has to do with the practical impact of all the security that's put in place. Also as a practical matter, a fair number of private businesses in downtown DC are forced to close or require everyone to telecommute on that day because their location within the secured perimeter makes access to the office or business location either impossible or exceptionally onerous. (The management of the big law firm where I used to work immensely resented having to close the DC office on that day. Not because of lost billable hours—they demanded the attorneys work remotely—but because they wound up having to give the staff an additional paid holiday that none of the offices in any other city received. I always viewed it as simply part of the cost of doing business in the District of Columbia.)

Without meaning to get political, I was struck by the coincidence between the inauguration and the King holiday when it became apparent that Harris would be the Democrats' nominee.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

oscar

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 25, 2024, 12:07:37 PMAlso as a practical matter, a fair number of private businesses in downtown DC are forced to close or require everyone to telecommute on that day because their location within the secured perimeter makes access to the office or business location either impossible or exceptionally onerous.

For three Inaugurations, I had to put up with that onerous security to get to my Federal agency on Pennsylvania Ave. NW. The first time (1993), I was busy gearing up for merger litigation. The other occasions (2001 and 2005), I was hosting parade-watching parties.

For all those occasions, I was sternly warned not to open my windows. That would make the Secret Service snipers nervous.
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hbelkins

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 25, 2024, 12:07:37 PMInauguration Day is a federal holiday for US government employees in the District of Columbia; Arlington and Fairfax Counties in Virginia; the Cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, and Falls Church in Virginia; and Montgomery and Prince George's Counties in Maryland. The reason it's a holiday for them has to do with the practical impact of all the security that's put in place. Also as a practical matter, a fair number of private businesses in downtown DC are forced to close or require everyone to telecommute on that day because their location within the secured perimeter makes access to the office or business location either impossible or exceptionally onerous. (The management of the big law firm where I used to work immensely resented having to close the DC office on that day. Not because of lost billable hours—they demanded the attorneys work remotely—but because they wound up having to give the staff an additional paid holiday that none of the offices in any other city received. I always viewed it as simply part of the cost of doing business in the District of Columbia.)

That reminds me of what happened in December 1999, when Paul Patton was inaugurated for his second term as Kentucky's governor, being the first governor eligible to serve two consecutive terms. I was working in Frankfort then, and he proposed not closing all state offices for his inauguration; he proposed only closing Frankfort offices. There was a great hue and cry about the unfairness of Frankfort-based state employees getting the day off, while state workers based outside of Frankfort had to work. He backed off that proposal and issued an executive order that all offices would be closed.

Something similar happened in 2011 when Steve Beshear was elected to his second term.

It's not a matter of security per se, but due to traffic impacts along the inaugural parade route, which runs through downtown Frankfort, across the Capitol Avenue bridge, and up to the Capitol.
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1995hoo

Quote from: oscar on November 25, 2024, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 25, 2024, 12:07:37 PMAlso as a practical matter, a fair number of private businesses in downtown DC are forced to close or require everyone to telecommute on that day because their location within the secured perimeter makes access to the office or business location either impossible or exceptionally onerous.

For three Inaugurations, I had to put up with that onerous security to get to my Federal agency on Pennsylvania Ave. NW. The first time (1993), I was busy gearing up for merger litigation. The other occasions (2001 and 2005), I was hosting parade-watching parties.

For all those occasions, I was sternly warned not to open my windows. That would make the Secret Service snipers nervous.

My wife (we were not married then) used to work at 1001 Pennsylvania Avenue (the building across from the FBI where TenPenh used to be and where Central Michel Richard is). She said the Secret Service demanded access to the building and did something to mark any doors facing Pennsylvania Avenue, or providing access to any outdoor rooftop terraces, as having been "secured" in some fashion and warned that there would be hell to pay if anyone broke those seals.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

webny99

Quote from: hbelkins on November 25, 2024, 11:58:34 AM
QuoteYeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%.

Interesting coincidence: The inauguration for the 47th president will occur on MLK Day this year. I would think this would lessen traffic impacts, unless Inauguration Day is already a federal holiday the way the gubernatorial inauguration day is in Kentucky.

That certainly won't lessen the traffic impacts, unless by lessen you mean just counter the typical trend.

Traffic volumes will obviously be much greater in DC, but I'm not sure there will be real impact anywhere else.

1995hoo

Quote from: webny99 on November 25, 2024, 01:12:36 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 25, 2024, 11:58:34 AM
QuoteYeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%.

Interesting coincidence: The inauguration for the 47th president will occur on MLK Day this year. I would think this would lessen traffic impacts, unless Inauguration Day is already a federal holiday the way the gubernatorial inauguration day is in Kentucky.

That certainly won't lessen the traffic impacts, unless by lessen you mean just counter the typical trend.

Traffic volumes will obviously be much greater in DC, but I'm not sure there will be real impact anywhere else.


Traffic volumes on January 20 will be much decreased in DC because of all the street closures. Almost all of downtown is cordoned off and some of the subway stations are closed as well.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

webny99

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 25, 2024, 01:39:09 PM
Quote
QuoteInteresting coincidence: The inauguration for the 47th president will occur on MLK Day this year. I would think this would lessen traffic impacts, unless Inauguration Day is already a federal holiday the way the gubernatorial inauguration day is in Kentucky.

That certainly won't lessen the traffic impacts, unless by lessen you mean just counter the typical trend.

Traffic volumes will obviously be much greater in DC, but I'm not sure there will be real impact anywhere else.

Traffic volumes on January 20 will be much decreased in DC because of all the street closures. Almost all of downtown is cordoned off and some of the subway stations are closed as well.

For the closed streets specifically, yes - but everyone attending the inauguration has to come from somewhere, so from a regional perspective the traffic flows into DC before the event and outbound afterwards would be greater than normal.



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