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Scott5114

You'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...
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Rothman

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 02:10:06 AMYou'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...

TikTok in of itself isn't a source.  The economist, who has been used as an expert on nationwide news networks, definitely is.

It's one thing to say that his track record is crap, or his data is crap or his analysis is crap.  To just say, "Everything on TikTok is wrong" is absurd.

Gave you more credit to not pull this broad ad hominem stuff...
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JayhawkCO

Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 02:10:06 AMYou'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...

TikTok in of itself isn't a source.  The economist, who has been used as an expert on nationwide news networks, definitely is.

It's one thing to say that his track record is crap, or his data is crap or his analysis is crap.  To just say, "Everything on TikTok is wrong" is absurd.

Gave you more credit to not pull this broad ad hominem stuff...

I don't believe I read "Everything on TikTok is wrong" in Scott's post.

Gave you more credit than to pull this strawman stuff. :)

formulanone

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 22, 2024, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 02:10:06 AMYou'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...

TikTok in of itself isn't a source.  The economist, who has been used as an expert on nationwide news networks, definitely is.

It's one thing to say that his track record is crap, or his data is crap or his analysis is crap.  To just say, "Everything on TikTok is wrong" is absurd.

Gave you more credit to not pull this broad ad hominem stuff...

I don't believe I read "Everything on TikTok is wrong" in Scott's post.

Gave you more credit than to pull this strawman stuff. :)

Is it fair enough to say some sources should be taken with a grain of salt, others with a salt lick?

JayhawkCO

Quote from: formulanone on November 22, 2024, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 22, 2024, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 02:10:06 AMYou'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...

TikTok in of itself isn't a source.  The economist, who has been used as an expert on nationwide news networks, definitely is.

It's one thing to say that his track record is crap, or his data is crap or his analysis is crap.  To just say, "Everything on TikTok is wrong" is absurd.

Gave you more credit to not pull this broad ad hominem stuff...

I don't believe I read "Everything on TikTok is wrong" in Scott's post.

Gave you more credit than to pull this strawman stuff. :)

Is it fair enough to say some sources should be taken with a grain of salt, others with a salt lick?

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hbelkins

Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:48:05 PMFor whatever it's worth, the aggregate data shows that it's not corporate ownership of real estate that is causing higher prices, but a general lack of supply altogether.  Need to build more homes and make it easier to get rid of homes that are never going to sell and replace with ones that will.

Seems to me that the best way to get rid of homes that are never going to sell would be for the seller to lower the price to a point where the house will sell.
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Rothman

Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:48:05 PMFor whatever it's worth, the aggregate data shows that it's not corporate ownership of real estate that is causing higher prices, but a general lack of supply altogether.  Need to build more homes and make it easier to get rid of homes that are never going to sell and replace with ones that will.

Seems to me that the best way to get rid of homes that are never going to sell would be for the seller to lower the price to a point where the house will sell.

It's more complicated than that.  There are a whole lot of dilapidated old homes out there where you can drop the price to a small amount and they still won't sell.  Sometimes, some local historic preservation regulations come into play.  Whatever the constraints, we allow old, crappy houses just to stick around.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Scott5114

Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 02:10:06 AMYou'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...

TikTok in of itself isn't a source.  The economist, who has been used as an expert on nationwide news networks, definitely is.

It's one thing to say that his track record is crap, or his data is crap or his analysis is crap.  To just say, "Everything on TikTok is wrong" is absurd.

Gave you more credit to not pull this broad ad hominem stuff...

If he's publishing his content directly on TikTok, that means he doesn't have another party, such as an editor, reviewing the content for correctness. This is why Wikipedia doesn't allow self-published content to be used as a source (we have lightened that policy up on AARoads Wiki, but our policy still gives greater weight to a source with an editor than it does a self-published website).
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2024, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 21, 2024, 07:48:05 PMFor whatever it's worth, the aggregate data shows that it's not corporate ownership of real estate that is causing higher prices, but a general lack of supply altogether.  Need to build more homes and make it easier to get rid of homes that are never going to sell and replace with ones that will.

Seems to me that the best way to get rid of homes that are never going to sell would be for the seller to lower the price to a point where the house will sell.

It's more complicated than that.  There are a whole lot of dilapidated old homes out there where you can drop the price to a small amount and they still won't sell.  Sometimes, some local historic preservation regulations come into play.  Whatever the constraints, we allow old, crappy houses just to stick around.

Right. It's because any buyer assumes a bunch of costs when purchasing a home. Getting a dilapidated home for free still means insurance (even if its just liability), taxes, utilities, etc.

Rothman

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 22, 2024, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2024, 02:10:06 AMYou'll forgive me if I don't consider TikTok a reliable source when it comes to economics...

TikTok in of itself isn't a source.  The economist, who has been used as an expert on nationwide news networks, definitely is.

It's one thing to say that his track record is crap, or his data is crap or his analysis is crap.  To just say, "Everything on TikTok is wrong" is absurd.

Gave you more credit to not pull this broad ad hominem stuff...

If he's publishing his content directly on TikTok, that means he doesn't have another party, such as an editor, reviewing the content for correctness. This is why Wikipedia doesn't allow self-published content to be used as a source (we have lightened that policy up on AARoads Wiki, but our policy still gives greater weight to a source with an editor than it does a self-published website).

Sure, but dismissing it out of hand based on the idea that it hasn't been edited (despite the fact that one may be overrating the quality of editing out there) is also inappropriate.  Let me know when there's a problem with his actual content.

(i.e., if he had been an anti-vaxxer, then sure, I'd argue that such a position would go against the entire state of the art and point to the consensus amongst research institutions that vaccines are beneficial).
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