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Started by bandit957, December 13, 2024, 10:07:01 PM

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SP Cook

https://www.fox19.com/2024/12/20/frischs-head-baker-41-years-other-commissary-kitchen-workers-lose-jobs-friday-before-christmas/

The company has closed its commissary (central kitchen and supply chain operations) and appears to be going out of business.


Rothman

Well, that de-escalated quickly.
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: SP Cook on December 20, 2024, 02:43:01 PMhttps://www.fox19.com/2024/12/20/frischs-head-baker-41-years-other-commissary-kitchen-workers-lose-jobs-friday-before-christmas/

The company has closed its commissary (central kitchen and supply chain operations) and appears to be going out of business.

He should be able to get a portion of his pension at least, if not all of it, but the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to. $2,000 is ridiculous, but it's better than $0.

hotdogPi

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMbut the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to

Clauses like this should be illegal.
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: hotdogPi on December 20, 2024, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMbut the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to

Clauses like this should be illegal.

Why? It's a contractural agreement. We will pay a portion of your PTO, even though they likely don't have to, and in response you agree to not disparage the company or talk to the media. Both are giving up something they didn't have to give up.

I will say that such separation agreements should require more than "turn it in by the end of the day" however.

bandit957

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMHe should be able to get a portion of his pension at least, if not all of it, but the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to.

If he's already out of a job, he has every right to talk to the press.
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: bandit957 on December 20, 2024, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMHe should be able to get a portion of his pension at least, if not all of it, but the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to.

If he's already out of a job, he has every right to talk to the press.

And they have every right not to pay his severence.

1995hoo

Quote from: bandit957 on December 20, 2024, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMHe should be able to get a portion of his pension at least, if not all of it, but the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to.

If he's already out of a job, he has every right to talk to the press.

But he is free to sign away those rights via a contract.
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kernals12

What a sad end to one of the most iconic restaurants in the world. The free market clearly places little value on sentimentality

SEWIGuy

Quote from: kernals12 on December 20, 2024, 04:39:36 PMWhat a sad end to one of the most iconic restaurants in the world. The free market clearly places little value on sentimentality

The bolded seems a little much...

vdeane

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on December 20, 2024, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMHe should be able to get a portion of his pension at least, if not all of it, but the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to.

If he's already out of a job, he has every right to talk to the press.

And they have every right not to pay his severence.
That should be illegal.  They should be required to pay out severance/PTO/etc. regardless.
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LilianaUwU

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 04:43:35 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 20, 2024, 04:39:36 PMWhat a sad end to one of the most iconic restaurants in the world. The free market clearly places little value on sentimentality

The bolded seems a little much...
It's iconic in the same way a local restaurant is iconic... let's be fair, Big Boy is just a bunch of local restaurants in a trench coat.
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Scott5114

Gag agreements are one of those things that seem fair if you don't think about them much ("well he signed a contract and the company is giving something up too") but fall apart under closer scrutiny (they incentivize bad behavior from the company by eliminating a way to draw attention to it, and most of the time employees are given little latitude to negotiate them as they're presented as part of a "take or leave it" employment packet).
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SEWIGuy

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 20, 2024, 11:28:06 PMGag agreements are one of those things that seem fair if you don't think about them much ("well he signed a contract and the company is giving something up too") but fall apart under closer scrutiny (they incentivize bad behavior from the company by eliminating a way to draw attention to it, and most of the time employees are given little latitude to negotiate them as they're presented as part of a "take or leave it" employment packet).

Right. They basically offer you something you wouldn't get if you quit or were fired for cause, in return for holding them harmless. I do agree that employees should be given a longer time to accept in order to explore legal options.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: vdeane on December 20, 2024, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on December 20, 2024, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 20, 2024, 03:06:37 PMHe should be able to get a portion of his pension at least, if not all of it, but the dude should not be talking to the press when the agreement says not to.

If he's already out of a job, he has every right to talk to the press.

And they have every right not to pay his severence.
That should be illegal.  They should be required to pay out severance/PTO/etc. regardless.

That depends on the state and depends on how PTO is allocated.

roadman65

I take the Michigan Big Boys are owned by Frisch's?

I ate at one in Charlotte, MI in 2008. That was the last time I ate at one as we have none down south anymore. I was surprised when the asked if I wanted Smoking or Non Smoking as in Florida we had smoking sections banned in restaurants for years.
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bandit957

Quote from: roadman65 on December 30, 2024, 11:21:39 PMI take the Michigan Big Boys are owned by Frisch's?

I ate at one in Charlotte, MI in 2008. That was the last time I ate at one as we have none down south anymore. I was surprised when the asked if I wanted Smoking or Non Smoking as in Florida we had smoking sections banned in restaurants for years.

I think the ones in Michigan are Elias Brothers rather than Frisch's.
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GaryV

Quote from: roadman65 on December 30, 2024, 11:21:39 PMwas surprised when the asked if I wanted Smoking or Non Smoking

That ended in 2010.


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Frisch's Mainliner sign

Tim (Bandit) just happened to have us stop outside of here during his 2020 Cincy meet (during Covid), so I was able document this sign.
Of note, said sign has been moved to the American Sign Museum (also in Cincy) in the last week.
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Road Hog

Shoney's still exists. With 58 locations across the Southeast. Knock me over with a feather.

In 1998 me and a vanload of kids piled out at a Shoney's on a field trip ready to chow down and there was a sign on the door: Closed. Think it happened that very morning. Our rock star teacher instead took us to IHOP.



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