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Title: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 10, 2024, 12:28:21 AM
With the Daytona 500 coming up in a little over a month, I was just thinking about how the street on which the track for that race is situated - namely, International Speedway Boulevard - has one of the longest street names that I know of, coming in at 30 letters.

Throughout the country, what are some of the other top contenders for that prize? The other name that came to mind for me was Peachtree Industrial Boulevard in the Atlanta suburbs; that name has 28 letters. Are there any you know of that have more than 30? (Just to be clear, for the purposes of this post, the street name includes the suffix, but excludes any directional indicators; also, spelled-out versions of numbered streets don't count, so please don't post those.)
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 10, 2024, 02:11:31 AM
Depending on if you want to spell-out the title of Doctor or not, Dr. Joseph E. Lowery Boulevard here in Huntsville, AL, ranges from 26 to 29 characters.

Stephen J. White Memorial Boulevard in Talladega, AL, is even longer though, at 31 characters.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Big John on January 10, 2024, 03:23:46 AM
Atlanta - Andrew Young International Boulevard - 33 characters.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: oscar on January 10, 2024, 03:57:15 AM
Just "Martin Luther King" is 16 characters. Adding the "Doctor" prefix, "Junior" suffix, and "Highway" or "Boulevard" as applicable, can easily push the total over 30 characters. Since MLK street names are so common, it would surprise me if no jurisdiction with an MLK street name used more than 30 characters.

Washington D.C. has Martin Luther King Jr. Ave. SW. Depending on whether you spell out "Jr.", "Ave.", or "SW" (the D.C. street signs don't, though the signs include the period after "Jr."), or count "SW" (for the southwest quadrant where the avenue is located), you end up with at least 22 characters, and a maximum of 37.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on January 10, 2024, 05:22:49 AM
I can't think of specifics right now, but in New England states anything ending in "boro" would likely meet the criteria. Many began with their English spellings (e.g. Hillsborough, Attleborough, Marlborough) but have been colloquially shortened in many cases. The same would likely apply to street names.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 10, 2024, 06:53:46 AM
Very similar topic:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14546.0
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: ran4sh on January 10, 2024, 07:56:13 AM
The Buc-ee's in Florence SC is located on...

Drs. Bruce and Lee Foundation Boulevard

(39 characters)

As for streets named after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., they really just need to be posted as "M King" or "M L King", everyone knows what is meant by those. In Georgia there is a Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. High School, and in the media (such as when reporting high school sports scores) it's always just called "ML King" (em-el-king)
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: ran4sh on January 10, 2024, 07:58:25 AM
Quote from: Big John on January 10, 2024, 03:23:46 AM
Atlanta - Andrew Young International Boulevard - 33 characters.

It's also remarkable that this isn't the only long street name in Atlanta. There are also names like "Centennial Olympic Park Drive", "John Lewis Freedom Parkway", "Ralph David Abernathy Boulevard", etc
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mgk920 on January 10, 2024, 12:37:23 PM
The longest name here in the Appleton, WI area is 'Butte des Morts Beach Road' 23 characters (French for 'Hill of the Dead', for the Indian burial mounds that are fairly common in the area) served by the Neenah, WI Post Office (54956).  This thread shows the wisdom of local ordinances that limit the length of street names.

Mike
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: formulanone on January 10, 2024, 02:42:54 PM
Quote from: ran4sh on January 10, 2024, 07:56:13 AM
The Buc-ee's in Florence SC is located on...

Drs. Bruce and Lee Foundation Boulevard

Such a missed opportunity to call it Bruce Lee Blvd.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Molandfreak on January 10, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: oscar on January 10, 2024, 03:57:15 AM
Just "Martin Luther King" is 16 characters. Adding the "Doctor" prefix, "Junior" suffix, and "Highway" or "Boulevard" as applicable, can easily push the total over 30 characters. Since MLK street names are so common, it would surprise me if no jurisdiction with an MLK street name used more than 30 characters.

Washington D.C. has Martin Luther King Jr. Ave. SW. Depending on whether you spell out "Jr.", "Ave.", or "SW" (the D.C. street signs don't, though the signs include the period after "Jr."), or count "SW" (for the southwest quadrant where the avenue is located), you end up with at least 22 characters, and a maximum of 37.
You could also spell out Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard in Saint Paul, MN for 45 letters.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: US 89 on January 13, 2024, 09:10:22 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on January 10, 2024, 07:58:25 AM
Quote from: Big John on January 10, 2024, 03:23:46 AM
Atlanta - Andrew Young International Boulevard - 33 characters.

It's also remarkable that this isn't the only long street name in Atlanta. There are also names like "Centennial Olympic Park Drive", "John Lewis Freedom Parkway", "Ralph David Abernathy Boulevard", etc

That's because Atlanta will fully rename its streets, usually after civil rights icons, and when they do they'll almost always use their full names. There's also "Donald Lee Hollowell Parkway", "Joseph E. Lowery Boulevard", "Atlanta Student Movement Boulevard", and probably more...
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Flint1979 on January 13, 2024, 09:25:39 AM
Several years ago 2nd Street in Saginaw was changed to Roosevelt Austin. The street signs look oversized because of all the letters. You won't find Roosevelt Austin on Google Maps though it's still marked as 2nd.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mgk920 on January 13, 2024, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on January 10, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: oscar on January 10, 2024, 03:57:15 AM
Just "Martin Luther King" is 16 characters. Adding the "Doctor" prefix, "Junior" suffix, and "Highway" or "Boulevard" as applicable, can easily push the total over 30 characters. Since MLK street names are so common, it would surprise me if no jurisdiction with an MLK street name used more than 30 characters.

Washington D.C. has Martin Luther King Jr. Ave. SW. Depending on whether you spell out "Jr.", "Ave.", or "SW" (the D.C. street signs don't, though the signs include the period after "Jr."), or count "SW" (for the southwest quadrant where the avenue is located), you end up with at least 22 characters, and a maximum of 37.
You could also spell out Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard in Saint Paul, MN for 45 letters.

The USPS also gets huffy if it is not completely spelled out.

Mike
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mrsman on January 14, 2024, 12:50:20 PM
I reference this post from 2011 to describe the different street signs in the city of Los Angeles

https://militantangeleno.blogspot.com/2011/03/signs-of-times.html

The trapezoid signs are now the most common.  Most streets fit on such a sign, but San Fernando Mission Blvd is so long, it needs two lines of text:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2723357,-118.4977585,3a,20.2y,194.72h,90.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFXHF8KIasYPt2v7IC5gA7Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Such was also done with the blue blade signs that made their appearance beginning in the 1970s and 1980s:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2736145,-118.5432293,3a,24.7y,152.09h,80.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sly5oFiD6_4bKLKgZdqttug!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dly5oFiD6_4bKLKgZdqttug%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D189.90752%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I could not find any "shotgun" signs during my GSV look see, but I do remember that the shotgun signs came in only one size.  A street like San Fernando Mission would mean that the letters would be really scrunched together to fit on the sign.  I would not be surprised if readibility issues encouraged LADOT to wholesale replace all of the signs for this street with the newer variety.  (The standard practice would be to only replace an old sign with a new style of sign if it fell off or otherwise became broken.  There are still a lot of shotgun signs in L.A., especially in the Valley, but not for San Fernando Mission.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2719639,-118.4847664,3a,15y,71.68h,90.93t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1syLqUQhymM-M12nT4nb-QRw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DyLqUQhymM-M12nT4nb-QRw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D331.90634%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu


But here is an archived photo:

https://calisphere.org/item/d231cf878fef3e1f4c96a73a412cbd79/

EDITED TO ADD:

The shotgun was the same size regardless of the size of the street.  As seen from the examples, the font was narrowed to fit very long street names or elongated to fit in very short street names.

https://lastreetnames.com/street/0001st-street/

(I remember that a few rare numbered streets were fully named.  But those are hard to find.)

A good video about the signs: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUiOcCwtiek





Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: formulanone on January 15, 2024, 11:14:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 13, 2024, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on January 10, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: oscar on January 10, 2024, 03:57:15 AM
Just "Martin Luther King" is 16 characters. Adding the "Doctor" prefix, "Junior" suffix, and "Highway" or "Boulevard" as applicable, can easily push the total over 30 characters. Since MLK street names are so common, it would surprise me if no jurisdiction with an MLK street name used more than 30 characters.

Washington D.C. has Martin Luther King Jr. Ave. SW. Depending on whether you spell out "Jr.", "Ave.", or "SW" (the D.C. street signs don't, though the signs include the period after "Jr."), or count "SW" (for the southwest quadrant where the avenue is located), you end up with at least 22 characters, and a maximum of 37.
You could also spell out Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard in Saint Paul, MN for 45 letters.

The USPS also gets huffy if it is not completely spelled out.

Mike
Only if you forget the zip code. ZIP+4 and the building/house number is enough.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mgk920 on January 15, 2024, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 15, 2024, 11:14:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 13, 2024, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on January 10, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: oscar on January 10, 2024, 03:57:15 AM
Just "Martin Luther King" is 16 characters. Adding the "Doctor" prefix, "Junior" suffix, and "Highway" or "Boulevard" as applicable, can easily push the total over 30 characters. Since MLK street names are so common, it would surprise me if no jurisdiction with an MLK street name used more than 30 characters.

Washington D.C. has Martin Luther King Jr. Ave. SW. Depending on whether you spell out "Jr.", "Ave.", or "SW" (the D.C. street signs don't, though the signs include the period after "Jr."), or count "SW" (for the southwest quadrant where the avenue is located), you end up with at least 22 characters, and a maximum of 37.
You could also spell out Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard in Saint Paul, MN for 45 letters.

The USPS also gets huffy if it is not completely spelled out.

Mike
Only if you forget the zip code. ZIP+4 and the building/house number is enough.

And now the little code at the bottom of the envelop can be 11 characters, the nine-digit code plus two more.  54911xxxxyy with the last two additional digits being the last two digits of the address number or , in my case, my apartment number.

Mike
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: formulanone on January 15, 2024, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 15, 2024, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 15, 2024, 11:14:22 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 13, 2024, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on January 10, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: oscar on January 10, 2024, 03:57:15 AM
Just "Martin Luther King" is 16 characters. Adding the "Doctor" prefix, "Junior" suffix, and "Highway" or "Boulevard" as applicable, can easily push the total over 30 characters. Since MLK street names are so common, it would surprise me if no jurisdiction with an MLK street name used more than 30 characters.

Washington D.C. has Martin Luther King Jr. Ave. SW. Depending on whether you spell out "Jr.", "Ave.", or "SW" (the D.C. street signs don't, though the signs include the period after "Jr."), or count "SW" (for the southwest quadrant where the avenue is located), you end up with at least 22 characters, and a maximum of 37.
You could also spell out Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard in Saint Paul, MN for 45 letters.

The USPS also gets huffy if it is not completely spelled out.

Mike
Only if you forget the zip code. ZIP+4 and the building/house number is enough.

And now the little code at the bottom of the envelop can be 11 characters, the nine-digit code plus two more.  54911xxxxyy with the last two additional digits being the last two digits of the address number or , in my case, my apartment number.

Mike
I'm not the type to re-format major systems, but it always seemed to me one could just put a Name and a 10-12 digit code: Last 2-3 digits of a building + unit/suite/apartment, and then the ZIP+4 code on a piece of mail, which would simplify a lot of potential process issues and reduce readability problems. Frankly, I don't understand rural routes so that might be a problem.

I guess a lot of it is bar-coded now so it's not entirely necessary from a front-end standpoint.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mrsman on January 15, 2024, 04:22:04 PM
Another long street in L.A.

General Thaddeus Kosciuszko Way:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0545192,-118.2514998,3a,17.7y,173.96h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splSRwC2Me0l_p1XqVB--mA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: mrsman on January 15, 2024, 04:22:04 PM
Another long street in L.A.

General Thaddeus Kosciuszko Way:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0545192,-118.2514998,3a,17.7y,173.96h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splSRwC2Me0l_p1XqVB--mA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu
Wonder if they butcher the pronunciation like they do in NY.

Kos-CHOOS-ko, not kos-see-YOOS-ko.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 15, 2024, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 06:05:26 PM

Quote from: mrsman on January 15, 2024, 04:22:04 PM
Another long street in L.A.

General Thaddeus Kosciuszko Way:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0545192,-118.2514998,3a,17.7y,173.96h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splSRwC2Me0l_p1XqVB--mA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu
Wonder if they butcher the pronunciation like they do in NY.

Kos-CHOOS-ko, not kos-see-YOOS-ko.

If I remember my Polish pronunciation correctly, then Kościuszko should be pronounced basically like kosh-CHOOSH-ko, not kos-CHOOS-ko.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 15, 2024, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 06:05:26 PM

Quote from: mrsman on January 15, 2024, 04:22:04 PM
Another long street in L.A.

General Thaddeus Kosciuszko Way:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0545192,-118.2514998,3a,17.7y,173.96h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splSRwC2Me0l_p1XqVB--mA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu
Wonder if they butcher the pronunciation like they do in NY.

Kos-CHOOS-ko, not kos-see-YOOS-ko.

If I remember my Polish pronunciation correctly, then Kościuszko should be pronounced basically like kosh-CHOOSH-ko, not kos-CHOOS-ko.
Tomato, tomato, potato, potato.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 15, 2024, 06:41:19 PM
Hey, you're the one who complained about butchering the pronunciation.  The least you could do is make sure you're pronouncing it right.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 15, 2024, 06:41:19 PM
Hey, you're the one who complained about butchering the pronunciation.  The least you could do is make sure you're pronouncing it right.
Just saying your correction was budging things barely a millimeter rather than a mile.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 15, 2024, 07:18:05 PM
40% of your consonants were wrong.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Big John on January 15, 2024, 07:36:56 PM
All voweled up.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 15, 2024, 07:18:05 PM
40% of your consonants were wrong.
Pfft.  Most consonants in Slavic languages are wrong, anyway.

In the end, it's nearly impossible to say it the way I had written it without the technical "shushes" in there, anyway.

Eh, so thank you for making it technically correct.

Potato, potato; tomato, tomato.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: GaryV on January 16, 2024, 08:06:37 AM
Let's call the whole thing off.

(Oh wait, that doesn't work on a forum.)
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 16, 2024, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 06:40:17 PM
Tomato, tomato, potato, potato.

Quote from: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 08:17:08 PM
Potato, potato; tomato, tomato.

Are you suggesting that puh-TOT-oh is an acceptable pronunciation of potato?  If so, then you're wrong about that too.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: formulanone on January 16, 2024, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: GaryV on January 16, 2024, 08:06:37 AM
Let's call the whole thing off.

(Oh wait, that doesn't work on a forum.)


I think you're supposed to find something which rhymes with "Olive Garden", first.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 16, 2024, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 16, 2024, 11:59:34 AM
I think you're supposed to find something which rhymes with "Olive Garden", first.

Dear Rothman, sir, I beg thy pardon:
A dinner date with Carrie doth approach;
I'll take my bride to Olive Garden,
Despite thy certain coming proud reproach.

Spaghetti cooked with shrimp and lardon,
Alfredo, cheese, a glass of pinot gris:
With these our arteries we'll harden
And pay no single passing thought to thee.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 16, 2024, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 16, 2024, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 16, 2024, 11:59:34 AM
I think you're supposed to find something which rhymes with "Olive Garden", first.

Dear Rothman, sir, I beg thy pardon:
A dinner date with Carrie doth approach;
I'll take my bride to Olive Garden,
Despite thy certain coming proud reproach.

Spaghetti cooked with shrimp and lardon,
Alfredo, cheese, a glass of pinot gris:
With these our arteries we'll harden
And pay no single passing thought to thee.
Miserable people, the both of you.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 16, 2024, 06:21:46 PM
Well, I don't actually know if that's where we'll go for our date.  We had planned a different restaurant for a lunch date, but there's a schedule conflict so we switched it to supper instead.  Our lunch date restaurant pick is too expensive for dinner, but we haven't yet decided where to go instead.

I just wanted to rhyme as many words with "Olive Garden" as I could.  And I don't really see how I could do that without addressing the poem to you.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Scott5114 on January 16, 2024, 06:22:35 PM
Someone want to dig up "For Every Christopher Bebop Martin" or whatever those ridiculous signs in Miami said?
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: formulanone on January 17, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 16, 2024, 06:22:35 PM
Someone want to dig up "For Every Christopher Bebop Martin" or whatever those ridiculous signs in Miami said?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8884/28376936132_07dc18ff73_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kezdtw)
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: paulthemapguy on January 18, 2024, 04:56:01 PM
This forum is 80% pointless arguments about nomenclature (in before someone corrects me and says it's 78.9%).

This thread idea about names of things was doomed from the start.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mrsman on January 25, 2024, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 17, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 16, 2024, 06:22:35 PM
Someone want to dig up "For Every Christopher Bebop Martin" or whatever those ridiculous signs in Miami said?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8884/28376936132_07dc18ff73_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kezdtw)

Can someone explain to me how it is at all beneficial to rename a street to honor three separate people, as opposed to renaming three separate streets to honor those three separate people?

Raymond Ray Britton (who was a WWII veteran)
Carrie P. Meek (Congresswoman)
Dr. T. Stewart Greer (Interim superintendent of public school system)

Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: I-35 on January 25, 2024, 02:08:50 PM
This hot garbage?

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/backnorth-20080707-13/13/DSCF0012-close.jpg)
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 25, 2024, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: I-35 on January 25, 2024, 02:08:50 PM
This hot garbage?

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/backnorth-20080707-13/13/DSCF0012-close.jpg)


blech!  At least I see that the street blades call it by its more sensible alternate name:  Arthur Gardner Hwy.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: SEWIGuy on January 25, 2024, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: I-35 on January 25, 2024, 02:08:50 PM
This hot garbage?

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/backnorth-20080707-13/13/DSCF0012-close.jpg)


I actually kind of love this is a ironic way.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 25, 2024, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 25, 2024, 02:33:02 PM
I actually kind of love this is a ironic way.

Because a bypass encourages drivers to avoid the businesses that the Chamber represents?
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:37:29 PM
It's also unclear whether Greater Hazleton is a part of the road name or a separate destination reached via this exit.

A good example of the latter: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DemBmxt94XMK8puf9
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: kphoger on January 25, 2024, 02:41:09 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:37:29 PM
It's also unclear whether Greater Hazleton is a part of the road name or a separate destination reached via this exit.

It's part of the road name:  https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/PDF/2003/0/0066..PDF
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Rothman on January 25, 2024, 02:47:17 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:37:29 PM
It's also unclear whether Greater Hazleton is a part of the road name or a separate destination reached via this exit.

Another example of the latter: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DemBmxt94XMK8puf9
Meh.  Nah.  Lots of signage on I-81 letting you know it's one of the exits to get you to Hazleton.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
I will also nominate Fairport Nine Mile Point Road (NY 250). Yes, it has a big number of letters (25, to be exact), but stick with me on this one; the word "nine" is the second-highest number spelled out in word form in any road name outside of a numbered street system. Ten-Ten Rd south of Raleigh is the highest, and anything higher than ten is either written in numeral form or grammatically incorrect.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 25, 2024, 02:47:17 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:37:29 PM
It's also unclear whether Greater Hazleton is a part of the road name or a separate destination reached via this exit.

Another example of the latter: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DemBmxt94XMK8puf9
Meh.  Nah.  Lots of signage on I-81 letting you know it's one of the exits to get you to Hazleton.

Sure, but it is still ambiguous to the average passerby.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: SEWIGuy on January 25, 2024, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 25, 2024, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 25, 2024, 02:33:02 PM
I actually kind of love this is a ironic way.

Because a bypass encourages drivers to avoid the businesses that the Chamber represents?

That and just because its so delightfully absurd.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: 1995hoo on January 25, 2024, 02:54:45 PM
Ben C. Pratt Six Mile Cypress Parkway (https://maps.app.goo.gl/kEhfdSB1jrCA4tq57) in Fort Myers is 30 letters, not counting the period after "C."
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mgk920 on January 26, 2024, 01:07:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on January 25, 2024, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 17, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 16, 2024, 06:22:35 PM
Someone want to dig up "For Every Christopher Bebop Martin" or whatever those ridiculous signs in Miami said?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8884/28376936132_07dc18ff73_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kezdtw)

Can someone explain to me how it is at all beneficial to rename a street to honor three separate people, as opposed to renaming three separate streets to honor those three separate people?

Raymond Ray Britton (who was a WWII veteran)
Carrie P. Meek (Congresswoman)
Dr. T. Stewart Greer (Interim superintendent of public school system)

Also, when was it considered to be advantageous to use the honorees' full names rater than just their simple last names?

Mike
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: elsmere241 on January 26, 2024, 01:15:00 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
I will also nominate Fairport Nine Mile Point Road (NY 250). Yes, it has a big number of letters (25, to be exact), but stick with me on this one; the word "nine" is the second-highest number spelled out in word form in any road name outside of a numbered street system. Ten-Ten Rd south of Raleigh is the highest, and anything higher than ten is either written in numeral form or grammatically incorrect.

It got its name because its state number is 1010.  I think the sign on US 64 calls it "Ten Ten", but when you get off 64 on the Apex side, it's signed Center Street because that's Apex's name for it.  Cary signs it "SR 1010" last I checked.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Dirt Roads on January 26, 2024, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
I will also nominate Fairport Nine Mile Point Road (NY 250). Yes, it has a big number of letters (25, to be exact), but stick with me on this one; the word "nine" is the second-highest number spelled out in word form in any road name outside of a numbered street system. Ten-Ten Rd south of Raleigh is the highest, and anything higher than ten is either written in numeral form or grammatically incorrect.

Quote from: elsmere241 on January 26, 2024, 01:15:00 PM
It got its name because its state number is 1010.  I think the sign on US 64 calls it "Ten Ten", but when you get off 64 on the Apex side, it's signed Center Street because that's Apex's name for it.  Cary signs it "SR 1010" last I checked.

Since we are slightly off-topic, we've also got "West Ten Road" between Efland -and- Mebane, in Orange County, North Carolina.  It is the old route of NC-10, the predecessor to US-70.  As far as I can tell, this section was bypassed to the north of the railroad about 1926 just prior to the original posting of US-70 through Orange County.  In a curious twist, some of the robo-address platforms such as Zillow and Trulia can't quite grasp this naming convention and have recently started incorrectly posting addresses as "W. 10th Road".  (On the other side of Hillsborough, there used to be signs for "Old Number Ten", but that road was straightened improved in the past decade and the signs now read "Old NC 10".  Similarly, that section was also bypassed just before US-70 got posted).
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mrsman on February 03, 2024, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on January 26, 2024, 01:07:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on January 25, 2024, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 17, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 16, 2024, 06:22:35 PM
Someone want to dig up "For Every Christopher Bebop Martin" or whatever those ridiculous signs in Miami said?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8884/28376936132_07dc18ff73_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kezdtw)

Can someone explain to me how it is at all beneficial to rename a street to honor three separate people, as opposed to renaming three separate streets to honor those three separate people?

Raymond Ray Britton (who was a WWII veteran)
Carrie P. Meek (Congresswoman)
Dr. T. Stewart Greer (Interim superintendent of public school system)

Also, when was it considered to be advantageous to use the honorees' full names rater than just their simple last names?

Mike

I am less bothered by that, even though it means more words in the name, because when the people that they are honoring now are not as famous as people that were honored 100 years ago.

Let's take MLK for an example.  If you just put in King st, would you assume that it's to honor MLK, rather than some other historical figures with the name King (or perhaps referring to the actual king, especially in parts of the country that were established before 1776).

In fact, King county in the state of Washington was originally named for VP William R King.  As he was a slaveholder, it was non-PC to keep honoring him, so in 2005, the state declared that King county was meant to honor MLK instead.

So with the example in Miami, having the full names of the people who are honored on 27 Ave was very helpful to google and determine why they are being so honored, but why honor more than one person with the same street?  Nobody knows!
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mrsman on February 03, 2024, 08:02:26 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on January 26, 2024, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: webny99 on January 25, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
I will also nominate Fairport Nine Mile Point Road (NY 250). Yes, it has a big number of letters (25, to be exact), but stick with me on this one; the word "nine" is the second-highest number spelled out in word form in any road name outside of a numbered street system. Ten-Ten Rd south of Raleigh is the highest, and anything higher than ten is either written in numeral form or grammatically incorrect.

Quote from: elsmere241 on January 26, 2024, 01:15:00 PM
It got its name because its state number is 1010.  I think the sign on US 64 calls it "Ten Ten", but when you get off 64 on the Apex side, it's signed Center Street because that's Apex's name for it.  Cary signs it "SR 1010" last I checked.

Since we are slightly off-topic, we've also got "West Ten Road" between Efland -and- Mebane, in Orange County, North Carolina.  It is the old route of NC-10, the predecessor to US-70.  As far as I can tell, this section was bypassed to the north of the railroad about 1926 just prior to the original posting of US-70 through Orange County.  In a curious twist, some of the robo-address platforms such as Zillow and Trulia can't quite grasp this naming convention and have recently started incorrectly posting addresses as "W. 10th Road".  (On the other side of Hillsborough, there used to be signs for "Old Number Ten", but that road was straightened improved in the past decade and the signs now read "Old NC 10".  Similarly, that section was also bypassed just before US-70 got posted).

I'm sure you'd love Sacramento's Teneighth Way:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Teneighth+Way,+Sacramento,+CA+95818/@38.5482489,-121.5047447,17.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x809ad108a2311203:0x559f4dd7347047f9!8m2!3d38.5480615!4d-121.5029422!16s%2Fg%2F1tdhm1xq?entry=ttu

Since the grids don't line up perfectly, the road connects 10th Ave in the east to 8th Ave in the west.  Between Riverside and Land Park, the roadway could have very easily just been renamed 9th Ave, as it sits between 8th and 10th.  The name Teneighth just seems very silly, a very good candidate for a renaming to honor a local person, IMO.
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mgk920 on February 04, 2024, 01:32:19 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 03, 2024, 07:50:15 PM

In fact, King county in the state of Washington was originally named for VP William R King.  As he was a slaveholder, it was non-PC to keep honoring him, so in 2005, the state declared that King county was meant to honor MLK instead.

So with the example in Miami, having the full names of the people who are honored on 27 Ave was very helpful to google and determine why they are being so honored, but why honor more than one person with the same street?  Nobody knows!

Or Rufus King (a signer of the original 1797 Constitution) High School in Milwaukee, WI.

Mike
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: Big John on February 04, 2024, 02:10:32 AM
^^1787
Title: Re: Biggest number of letters in a street name?
Post by: mgk920 on February 04, 2024, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 04, 2024, 02:10:32 AM
^^1787

Dyslexic figners.

Mike