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Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC

Started by Strider, January 03, 2013, 01:28:34 PM

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sprjus4

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 25, 2019, 01:09:02 AM
I say it's more of a loop. Bypasses are for going around a city.
I'd agree. I-295 acts as an urban interstate highway for local traffic and to link to/from I-95.

I-95 acts as the bypass more-or-less since it completely avoids the city, while I-295 goes into the urban area.


tolbs17

Google maps needs to update the I-295 around Fayetteville so we can all see what it looks like. Even on Google Earth too.

Henry

Quote from: LM117 on July 23, 2019, 10:08:36 AM
As I mentioned in the Virginia thread during a side discussion, FHWA has added the completed sections of NC-295 to the interstate system as I-295. I don’t know if the signs have been changed yet.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/table02.cfm

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/table03.cfm

Apparently, they must’ve granted waivers for the substandard bridges and the US-13 interchange.
In a sense, the northern terminus of I-295 is basically the same as the northern terminus of I-585, the southern terminus of I-180 in Cheyenne and I-70 in Breezewood. I was thinking that they'd try to remake it into a normal freeway-to-freeway interchange, but then decided against it for the moment. Probably won't be done until the whole thing is completed and opened to traffic, if at all.
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sprjus4

Quote from: Henry on July 26, 2019, 10:30:37 AM
Quote from: LM117 on July 23, 2019, 10:08:36 AM
As I mentioned in the Virginia thread during a side discussion, FHWA has added the completed sections of NC-295 to the interstate system as I-295. I don't know if the signs have been changed yet.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/table02.cfm

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/table03.cfm

Apparently, they must've granted waivers for the substandard bridges and the US-13 interchange.
In a sense, the northern terminus of I-295 is basically the same as the northern terminus of I-585, the southern terminus of I-180 in Cheyenne and I-70 in Breezewood. I was thinking that they'd try to remake it into a normal freeway-to-freeway interchange, but then decided against it for the moment. Probably won't be done until the whole thing is completed and opened to traffic, if at all.
To be fair, the busiest movement is I-295 North to I-95 North and vice versa, and that -is- a freeway-to-freeway movement via a flyover and a direct ramp with no interruptions.

It's not a total at-grade interchange for I-295's side.

vdeane

Yeah, three out of four movements are already freeway/freeway.  Only the I-95 NB to I-295 movement isn't.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

tolbs17

So, when the whole loop is complete it will be signed as I-295? I'm surprised they went with NC295.

Mapmikey

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 01:19:05 AM
So, when the whole loop is complete it will be signed as I-295? I'm surprised they went with NC295.

NC 295 is a placeholder designation until it is approved to be signed as I-295.  Just as North Carolina has done with NC 140 and the upcoming NC 74 on the Winston-Salem Beltway.  I-274 also has a placeholder designation, NC 452 (since NC 274 is already in the system, I suppose)

North Carolina also did this with NC 44 on the Goldsboro Bypass but this was before an interstate designation had been approved for that corridor. 

I'm curious to see if a temporary NC designation will go on the Shelby Bypass when it opens west of NC 226 later this year.

tolbs17

Quote from: Mapmikey on July 28, 2019, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on July 28, 2019, 01:19:05 AM
So, when the whole loop is complete it will be signed as I-295? I'm surprised they went with NC295.

NC 295 is a placeholder designation until it is approved to be signed as I-295.  Just as North Carolina has done with NC 140 and the upcoming NC 74 on the Winston-Salem Beltway.  I-274 also has a placeholder designation, NC 452 (since NC 274 is already in the system, I suppose)

North Carolina also did this with NC 44 on the Goldsboro Bypass but this was before an interstate designation had been approved for that corridor. 

I'm curious to see if a temporary NC designation will go on the Shelby Bypass when it opens west of NC 226 later this year.

For the Shelby Bypass. I would also be curious. The Goldsboro bypass was once signed as NC44 when it was incomplete.

I'm surprised NC540 will never be changed to I-640.

sprjus4

Transportation department goal: Finish I-295 around Fayetteville in 2024
QuoteThe new bridge pylons near Raeford Road in western Fayetteville, and an odd bridge-like contraption over Interstate 95 south of Fayetteville are signs: Interstate 295 is tracking to be finished in the next five years or so.

Three of the four remaining segments of the billion-dollar Fayetteville Outer Loop are under construction, said state Department of Transportation spokesman Andrew Barksdale. The objective is to finish the project in 2024, he said.

Interstate 295 has been under construction since May 2000 and its first segment, from I-95 at U.S. 13 north of Fayetteville and Eastover to Ramsey Street north of Methodist University, opened in June 2003.

It has since been extended across northern Fayetteville to Murchison Road, Bragg Boulevard and the All-American Freeway on Fort Bragg. The next phases will bring I-295 through western Fayetteville, around Hope Mills south of Fayetteville and back to I-95 south of Fayetteville and north of St. Pauls in Robeson County.

Here is where the various pieces of the project stand, according to N.C. DOT documents and an interview with Barksdale.

All-American to Cliffdale Road

The segment from the I-295 interchange at the All-American Freeway to Cliffdale Road is under construction and due to be finished this fall.

It will include an interchange at Cliffdale Road and one near Reilly Road at Canopy Lane on Fort Bragg and is expected to ease traffic on surface streets in that area.

Cliffdale Road to Raeford Road

Construction of the 3.1 mile section from Cliffdale Road to Raeford Road began in August 2017 and is expected to open to traffic by the end of 2020 with an interchange at Raeford Road.

Raeford Road to Camden Road

The Raeford Road to Camden Road segment was delayed by about a year due to litigation over purchasing property for the project, Barksdale said.

The Transportation Department anticipates awarding the contract for this section in July of next year.

This segment has an interchange at Century Circle near Strickland Bridge Road in western Cumberland County.

Camden Road to I-95

Construction of I-295 is underway from I-95 in northern Robeson County to Camden Road west of Hope Mills and is due to be finished in July 2021.

Drivers on I-95 may notice when they drive under a conveyor belt that crosses the highway on the south end of the I-295 project. This is to make it easier to bring fill dirt to the construction site, Barksdale said.

The dirt is being dug up nearby on the east side of I-95, he said, and without the conveyor belt, the contractor would have to use large dump trucks to carry the dirt to the project. The trucks would have to make 109,000 trips, he said.

The conveyor system should save time and money, Barksdale said, plus ease construction traffic and construction vehicle wear-and-tear on the nearby roads.

This section of road will have interchanges at I-95, Parkton Road, the area of Old Plank Road and Black Bridge Road, and Camden Road.

tolbs17

Jeez. So it takes them over 20 years to construct a loop around a city. I think Charlotte was the quickest. It was from the early 90's to 2015 which was 25 years maybe? and for Raleigh it's from like 1990 to 2028 maybe so that's 28 years. I guess loops take a long time to build.

sprjus4

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on September 01, 2019, 01:02:45 PM
Jeez. So it takes them over 20 years to construct a loop around a city. I think Charlotte was the quickest. It was from the early 90's to 2015 which was 25 years maybe? and for Raleigh it's from like 1990 to 2028 maybe so that's 28 years. I guess loops take a long time to build.
Only about 7 miles of the 34 mile loop opened 2003 - 2005, the most eastern portion between US-401 and I-95. The remaining 27 miles would have been opened in phases between 2016 - 2024.

tolbs17


bob7374

#112
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on September 01, 2019, 02:09:32 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1116266,-78.975413,3a,22.5y,255.72h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swf3Lq7_V-wEm2ACjXGsbAQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This really needs an update. It's 2 years old and I'm sure all that part is black by now.
You can see that somewhat that the future extension has been paved in this August 2018 view from the ramp from the All American Freeway to 295. https://goo.gl/maps/c7qYGXwW9af9iWym6

They have October 2018 images from the All American Freeway:
https://goo.gl/maps/w7VLkem6xGBPCuiZ7

tolbs17

Quote from: bob7374 on September 01, 2019, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on September 01, 2019, 02:09:32 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1116266,-78.975413,3a,22.5y,255.72h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swf3Lq7_V-wEm2ACjXGsbAQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This really needs an update. It's 2 years old and I'm sure all that part is black by now.
You can see that somewhat that the future extension has been paved in this August 2018 view from the ramp from the All American Freeway to 295. https://goo.gl/maps/c7qYGXwW9af9iWym6

They have October 2018 images from the All American Freeway:
https://goo.gl/maps/w7VLkem6xGBPCuiZ7
great news, i'm just interested how they didn't get the 2019 update like we did here in Greenville.

sprjus4

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on September 02, 2019, 01:01:38 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on September 01, 2019, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on September 01, 2019, 02:09:32 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1116266,-78.975413,3a,22.5y,255.72h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swf3Lq7_V-wEm2ACjXGsbAQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This really needs an update. It's 2 years old and I'm sure all that part is black by now.
You can see that somewhat that the future extension has been paved in this August 2018 view from the ramp from the All American Freeway to 295. https://goo.gl/maps/c7qYGXwW9af9iWym6

They have October 2018 images from the All American Freeway:
https://goo.gl/maps/w7VLkem6xGBPCuiZ7
great news, i'm just interested how they didn't get the 2019 update like we did here in Greenville.
Simple - either a street view car did not drive through there, or it's late being posted. There could be future imagery coming in the next few months... you know August / September 2019 imagery.

LM117

#115
According to the NCDOT press release regarding the upcoming I-95 widening project between Eastover and Dunn, construction of a ramp connecting I-95 North to I-295 South is included in the project.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-09-10-major-overhaul-awaits-i-95.aspx

QuoteNear Fayetteville at exit 58, a ramp will be built to connect I-95 North traffic going to N.C. 295 South
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sprjus4

Quote from: LM117 on September 10, 2019, 01:26:04 PM
According to the NCDOT press release regarding the upcoming I-95 widening project between Eastover and Dunn, construction of a ramp connecting I-95 North to I-295 South is included in the project.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-09-10-major-overhaul-awaits-i-95.aspx

QuoteNear Fayetteville at exit 58, a ramp will be built to connect I-95 North traffic going to N.C. 295 South
Will be interesting to see the design of the ramp. Likely a 1-2 lane semidirectional flyover mirroring the existing I-295 N to I-95 N flyover.

froggie

Single lane semi-directional loop.  Doesn't really need to be anything more given the lack of traffic making that movement.

Roadsguy

Reminds me of the similar ramp at the I-180/US 15/US 220 interchange in Williamsport, PA.

Interesting that they're also realigning the existing northbound exit.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

sprjus4

Quote from: Roadsguy on September 10, 2019, 08:54:17 PM
Reminds me of the similar ramp at the I-180/US 15/US 220 interchange in Williamsport, PA.

Interesting that they're also realigning the existing northbound exit.
Also a similar design to the VA-168 North to US-17 South ramp in Hampton Roads at the I-64 I-464 interchange.

tolbs17

Quote from: sprjus4 on September 10, 2019, 09:26:50 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on September 10, 2019, 08:54:17 PM
Reminds me of the similar ramp at the I-180/US 15/US 220 interchange in Williamsport, PA.

Interesting that they're also realigning the existing northbound exit.
Also a similar design to the VA-168 North to US-17 South ramp in Hampton Roads at the I-64 I-464 interchange.
Reminds me of the I-40 I-85 interchange in NC.

roadman65

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on September 10, 2019, 10:46:46 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 10, 2019, 09:26:50 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on September 10, 2019, 08:54:17 PM
Reminds me of the similar ramp at the I-180/US 15/US 220 interchange in Williamsport, PA.

Interesting that they're also realigning the existing northbound exit.
Also a similar design to the VA-168 North to US-17 South ramp in Hampton Roads at the I-64 I-464 interchange.
Reminds me of the I-40 I-85 interchange in NC.
This interchange?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Greensboro,+NC/@36.0542933,-79.6944584,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8853193f38c77b79:0x93b9c49478be12c8!8m2!3d36.0726354!4d-79.7919754
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

tolbs17


roadman65

#123
Ok that makes more sense.  You did find one similar to the one in Williamsport and soon in Eastover.  I think I-390's south terminus in NY State is similar too.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bath,+NY+14810/@42.3897487,-77.3967631,3825m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89d1ae13805ba023:0x78b612449fbec09f!8m2!3d42.3370164!4d-77.3177577  Actually correct on that one.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

bob7374

I have posted photos of construction started for the future southern I-295 interchange with I-95 near St. Pauls courtesy of Adam Prince. It includes photos of the conveyor belt the contractor built across I-95 to expedite removal of excavated dirt:


The complete set at: http://www.malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut295.html#aug16



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