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Which cities would be good for sports teams?

Started by Poiponen13, September 30, 2023, 01:19:55 PM

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Dough4872

The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team. Also Nashville would be a good city to get an MLB team.


GaryV

Quote from: kphoger on October 30, 2023, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 30, 2023, 02:25:32 PM
I don't think a small city necessarily means a small market. For example, a hypothetical Xenia team in the Alphabet League would have the fanbases of Cincinnati, Columbus, and Dayton, which is a decent size.

Lakeland makes perfect sense for someone who wants both the Tampa and Orlando markets.

My suspicion is that such teams would end up being named the Cincinnati ____ or the Columbus ____ rather than the Xenia ____, and the Tampa ____ or the Orlando ____ rather than the Lakeland ____, just with stadiums that are a bit far out from the city.

Lakeland has a team. It's just that they're only there for a couple of months per year, and then they move north to Detroit.

Alps


Poiponen13

Pittsburgh should have an NBA team. All other Big Four leagues have teams in Pittsburgh. MLS also lacks Pittsburgh teams. And Springfield, IL would be good to have major league team too.

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Poiponen13

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 25, 2023, 10:50:43 AM
Las Vegas.
Definitely for new MLB and NBA teams. Charlotte should also have MLB team.

Road Hog

Shreveport has had several minor league baseball teams that have failed over the years. The Captains averaged about 800 fans per game their last season in 2002 before the team moved to Frisco.

Austin is too close to San Antonio, which already has the Spurs, for an NBA team. Jerry Jones still carries enough weight among NFL ownership to veto any third NFL franchise in Texas; and MLB and NHL have better markets in mind already. The Longhorns are Austin's pro team anyway.

Poiponen13

Quote from: Road Hog on December 25, 2023, 12:30:03 PM
Shreveport has had several minor league baseball teams that have failed over the years. The Captains averaged about 800 fans per game their last season in 2002 before the team moved to Frisco.

Austin is too close to San Antonio, which already has the Spurs, for an NBA team. Jerry Jones still carries enough weight among NFL ownership to veto any third NFL franchise in Texas; and MLB and NHL have better markets in mind already. The Longhorns are Austin's pro team anyway.
Shreveport would be good to have a team in a new minor pro basketball league. Also, new minor league teams would be good to place to:
Baton Rouge, LA
Lafayette, LA
Midland, TX
Flagstaff, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Decatur, IL
Hagerstown, MD
Lynchburg, VA
Bismarck, ND
Iowa City, IA


oscar

Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
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Poiponen13

Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

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I've shared this idea for potential locations if the NFL were to do a second smaller spring league, but I don't think it would work in reality.

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Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 09:17:53 AM
Pittsburgh should have an NBA team. All other Big Four leagues have teams in Pittsburgh. MLS also lacks Pittsburgh teams. And Springfield, IL would be good to have major league team too.
It takes a pretty big market to support both an NBA and NHL team.

Henry

Quote from: Flint1979 on December 25, 2023, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 09:17:53 AM
Pittsburgh should have an NBA team. All other Big Four leagues have teams in Pittsburgh. MLS also lacks Pittsburgh teams. And Springfield, IL would be good to have major league team too.
It takes a pretty big market to support both an NBA and NHL team.
I think it's funny how Seattle lost the Sonics and gained the Kraken. It certainly is a big market, and even though neither my wife nor I are natives, we think it would be great for the city to get the NBA back in some form.

Also, you should consider the preferences for one league over another. In Atlanta, the Hawks have been there for well over a half-century and are not leaving anytime soon, but there were two failed experiences with the NHL where both teams relocated north of the border (Calgary Flames and new Winnipeg Jets), and I don't see the league trying for a third time, either.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Flint1979 on December 25, 2023, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 09:17:53 AM
Pittsburgh should have an NBA team. All other Big Four leagues have teams in Pittsburgh. MLS also lacks Pittsburgh teams. And Springfield, IL would be good to have major league team too.
It takes a pretty big market to support both an NBA and NHL team.

The ABA Pipers/Condors franchise folded by 1972 and spent one year in Minnesota.  There isn't much there to suggest an NBA team would do particularly well.

Alps

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.

Poiponen13

Quote from: Alps on December 26, 2023, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.
That's why I think that Hampton Roads Rhinos should be the name of new Hampton Roads team, which should enter to NBA in next 15 years.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 26, 2023, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 26, 2023, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.
That's why I think that Hampton Roads Rhinos should be the name of new Hampton Roads team, which should enter to NBA in next 15 years.

No

Poiponen13

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 26, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 26, 2023, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 26, 2023, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.
That's why I think that Hampton Roads Rhinos should be the name of new Hampton Roads team, which should enter to NBA in next 15 years.

No
Very big yes.

1995hoo

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 27, 2023, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 26, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 26, 2023, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 26, 2023, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.
That's why I think that Hampton Roads Rhinos should be the name of new Hampton Roads team, which should enter to NBA in next 15 years.

No
Very big yes.

What part of

NO

don't you understand?
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Poiponen13

Quote from: 1995hoo on December 27, 2023, 02:28:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 27, 2023, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 26, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 26, 2023, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 26, 2023, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.
That's why I think that Hampton Roads Rhinos should be the name of new Hampton Roads team, which should enter to NBA in next 15 years.

No
Very big yes.

What part of

NO

don't you understand?
That I think that NBA needs Hampton Roads Rhinos.

Max Rockatansky

#99
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 27, 2023, 02:36:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 27, 2023, 02:28:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 27, 2023, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 26, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 26, 2023, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 26, 2023, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 25, 2023, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 25, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 25, 2023, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: Dough4872 on October 30, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
The Hampton Roads area of Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News) is a large metro area and doesn't have any major league teams. That for sure would be a good place to get a major league team.

Might be too much of a transient military population to promote local team loyalties, with some residents sticking with their former home teams. The Washington DC metro area has a similar issue, but has a much larger population.
And a team name would be Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No
Yes. The Hampton Roads Rhinos were a potential National Hockey League expansion team that was to begin play in the late-1990s in Norfolk, Virginia.
That's why I think that Hampton Roads Rhinos should be the name of new Hampton Roads team, which should enter to NBA in next 15 years.

No
Very big yes.

What part of

NO

don't you understand?
That I think that NBA needs Hampton Roads Rhinos.

No means no.  Don't you have anything better to do than causing chaos on this forum?  How fucking clear do we have to be that we think your ideas are total shit?

Really though, what is the point of enabling P13 to post here?  This should be consolidated into this "in one thread" or deleted for causing a disruption.  Some of us actually want to talk about real sports (or non-crap hypothetical ideas).  This thread keeps getting top posted with this Rhino team nonsense.



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