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Title: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: Mapmikey on December 09, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
Has anyone ever seen a national map showing I-79 from Charlotte northward into West Virginia similar to this one? -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Interstate_Highway_plan_June_27,_1958.jpg

I-79 was definitely assigned to what is now I-77 for a time in both Virginia and North Carolina...explicit references in the CTB and North Carolina even had it on a planning map (though 77 had actually been assigned before 1/1/59)...

Internet search of sites with interstate histories don't seem to cover this occurrence at all...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fncannex%2Fncscans%2F1958_int.jpg&hash=c0cfc11fc42dc4fbe201b780be72999d81ff4a5f)
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: Alps on December 09, 2017, 11:44:10 AM
The 1957 plan had I-79 only in Ohio, but along 77: (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2F1957.jpg&hash=82b2a735a637f9ee5a954bbd84c550efdf662dec)
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: Mapmikey on December 09, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Yes...and there is a map showing today's 77 from Charlotte to Ohio being added to the system (though without a number).  Wondering if a map existed labeling the extension to Charlotte as 79...
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: NE2 on December 09, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Presumably the part in North Carolina was being planned before the missing link through West Virginia, so it needed a separate number.
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: sparker on December 10, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 09, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Presumably the part in North Carolina was being planned before the missing link through West Virginia, so it needed a separate number.

It seems more likely that since the original number of the Interstate extending south from Cleveland, OH to Canton (where it abruptly terminated) was I-79 (as per the above map; the original I-77 was what's now I-94 from Detroit to Port Huron, MI), the planned extension of that route south through WV, western VA, and terminating at Charlotte, NC would have initially carried that number; it was changed to I-77 when the Pittsburgh-Erie (PA) corridor was established in 1958, and received the I-79 designation. 
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: Henry on December 14, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
Interesting find indeed! It should also be noted that I-79 could've continued south from Charleston, WV instead of I-77, and then Charlotte would've had I-279 as the downtown freeway loop instead of I-277 when the extension to Columbia, SC was added later on.
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: hbelkins on December 14, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: Henry on December 14, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
Interesting find indeed! It should also be noted that I-79 could've continued south from Charleston, WV instead of I-77, and then Charlotte would've had I-279 as the downtown freeway loop instead of I-277 when the extension to Columbia, SC was added later on.

Was it ever a serious proposal, or merely just a suggestion, that an interstate be routed from Beckley northeast to Clarksburg, Fairmont and Morgantown; and a new surface road (an expressway, not a freeway) be built from Charleston east to connect with the route around Sutton?
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: Mapmikey on December 14, 2017, 08:08:21 PM
It is possible that Virginia is who decided to call it 79 first.  See pages 21-22 at http://www.ctb.virginia.gov/meetings/minutes_pdf/CTB-04-1958-01.pdf which describes the approval of the corridor and the assignment of 79 to it.  I have not seen any information that I recall about North Carolina deciding to call it that other than the map I found at the start of this thread.

Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: Bitmapped on December 15, 2017, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 14, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: Henry on December 14, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
Interesting find indeed! It should also be noted that I-79 could've continued south from Charleston, WV instead of I-77, and then Charlotte would've had I-279 as the downtown freeway loop instead of I-277 when the extension to Columbia, SC was added later on.

Was it ever a serious proposal, or merely just a suggestion, that an interstate be routed from Beckley northeast to Clarksburg, Fairmont and Morgantown; and a new surface road (an expressway, not a freeway) be built from Charleston east to connect with the route around Sutton?

Not that I'm aware of. Charleston is the state capital and centrally located, which would have made it more logical of an endpoint than Beckley. The snowbird travel on I-79/US 19 is much more of a recent development.
Title: Re: I-79 in Virginia and North Carolina
Post by: CanesFan27 on December 15, 2017, 04:22:21 PM
I've seen that map in the state archives so many times but I never noticed the 79.