AARoads Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

New rules to ensure post quality. See this thread for details.

Author Topic: Why does the Indian Nation Turnpike exist?  (Read 1452 times)

splashflash

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 124
  • Location: Vancouver Island
  • Last Login: May 30, 2023, 05:57:03 AM
Re: Why does the Indian Nation Turnpike exist?
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2023, 12:29:50 PM »

US 82 west of Paris has or has planned widening to four lane divided.  Maybe US 82 east of Paris will follow suit once this study is completed: https://www.txdot.gov/projects/projects-studies/statewide/us82-corridor-study.html

East of Blossom the traffic counts on US 82 drop off too but if it were 4 lanes, it would have potential to pick up traffic volume to funnel to the INT.
Logged

edwaleni

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1739
  • Last Login: June 01, 2023, 11:08:00 PM
Re: Why does the Indian Nation Turnpike exist?
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2023, 03:41:06 PM »

My parents lived in Tulsa when the Cimmaron was in development. In fact my parents saw the town of Keyesport (and some others) before they were forced to relocate for the lake.

My father said the Cimmaron was really for Oklahoma State University. The upgrade of the rest of the route to Enid came later to support Vance AFB.

As for the Hugo-Durant question, my armchair thought is that at the time Houston was a major port at the time and it made sense to increase capacity.  Also I would look at when the Arkansas-Verdigris waterway was built for the Port of Tulsa and Catoosa.

As for Durant, and the traffic pushing north from Dallas, I assume that NAFTA and increased Mexican trade has caused traffic to increase to KCMO. Something not anticipated in 1954.

The McClellan–Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System opened for barge traffic in 1971. 17 years after the Hugo route was put together.
Logged

rte66man

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1757
  • Location: Oklahoma City, OK
  • Last Login: June 06, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
Re: Why does the Indian Nation Turnpike exist?
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2023, 01:50:08 PM »

My parents lived in Tulsa when the Cimmaron was in development. In fact my parents saw the town of Keyesport (and some others) before they were forced to relocate for the lake.

My father said the Cimmaron was really for Oklahoma State University. The upgrade of the rest of the route to Enid came later to support Vance AFB.

As for the Hugo-Durant question, my armchair thought is that at the time Houston was a major port at the time and it made sense to increase capacity.  Also I would look at when the Arkansas-Verdigris waterway was built for the Port of Tulsa and Catoosa.

As for Durant, and the traffic pushing north from Dallas, I assume that NAFTA and increased Mexican trade has caused traffic to increase to KCMO. Something not anticipated in 1954.

The McClellan–Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System opened for barge traffic in 1971. 17 years after the Hugo route was put together.

It was chiefly done as a quid pro quo for approval of other turnpikes. As mentioned upthread, Gene Stipe was heavily involved and he controlled enough votes to kill it otherwise.

There have been various efforts over the years to ensure all parts of the state were connected by a turnpike. Woodward-OKC, Altus-Elk City, etc. Most ended up as 4 lane highways (OK6, US 270). the Indian Nation ended up as a turnpike because the Little Dixie crowd didn't want to wait 40 years.
Logged
When you come to a fork in the road... TAKE IT.

                                                               -Yogi Berra

 


Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.