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MikieTimT

Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:31:36 AMThere is a letting for I-57 in the upcoming letting in September
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:29:57 AMSeptember 20, 2024 Letting:

(1): Job J9P3751 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway, 3 bridges and 2 box culvert extensions from 2.0 miles south of Poplar Bluff to 4.5 miles south of Poplar Bluff, the total length of improvement being 2.504 miles.
(2): Job J9P3764 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway from 1.5 mi. south of Route 158 near Harviell to County Road 338, the total length of improvement being 1.647 miles.



Finally starting to get real.  Movement now on both sides of the border.


I-39

Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:31:36 AMThere is a letting for I-57 in the upcoming letting in September
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:29:57 AMSeptember 20, 2024 Letting:

(1): Job J9P3751 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway, 3 bridges and 2 box culvert extensions from 2.0 miles south of Poplar Bluff to 4.5 miles south of Poplar Bluff, the total length of improvement being 2.504 miles.
(2): Job J9P3764 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway from 1.5 mi. south of Route 158 near Harviell to County Road 338, the total length of improvement being 1.647 miles.



Finally starting to get real.  Movement now on both sides of the border.

The question is, when will they connect?

MikieTimT

Quote from: I-39 on August 16, 2024, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:31:36 AMThere is a letting for I-57 in the upcoming letting in September
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:29:57 AMSeptember 20, 2024 Letting:

(1): Job J9P3751 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway, 3 bridges and 2 box culvert extensions from 2.0 miles south of Poplar Bluff to 4.5 miles south of Poplar Bluff, the total length of improvement being 2.504 miles.
(2): Job J9P3764 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway from 1.5 mi. south of Route 158 near Harviell to County Road 338, the total length of improvement being 1.647 miles.



Finally starting to get real.  Movement now on both sides of the border.

The question is, when will they connect?

And the answer will be when does Missouri schedule Phase 4?  After the Corning Bypass, Arkansas is doing the segment to the border next.  May not have a designation change upon connection, but at least it doesn't appear as though Missouri and Arkansas will have a Bella Vista Bypass scenario again, even if Arkansas hasn't connected Corning to Walnut Ridge at that point.

I-39

Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 11:06:58 AM
Quote from: I-39 on August 16, 2024, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:31:36 AMThere is a letting for I-57 in the upcoming letting in September
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:29:57 AMSeptember 20, 2024 Letting:

(1): Job J9P3751 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway, 3 bridges and 2 box culvert extensions from 2.0 miles south of Poplar Bluff to 4.5 miles south of Poplar Bluff, the total length of improvement being 2.504 miles.
(2): Job J9P3764 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway from 1.5 mi. south of Route 158 near Harviell to County Road 338, the total length of improvement being 1.647 miles.



Finally starting to get real.  Movement now on both sides of the border.

The question is, when will they connect?

And the answer will be when does Missouri schedule Phase 4?  After the Corning Bypass, Arkansas is doing the segment to the border next.  May not have a designation change upon connection, but at least it doesn't appear as though Missouri and Arkansas will have a Bella Vista Bypass scenario again, even if Arkansas hasn't connected Corning to Walnut Ridge at that point.

Does the $150 million in funding cover the remaining section down to the state line?

MikieTimT

Quote from: I-39 on August 16, 2024, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 11:06:58 AM
Quote from: I-39 on August 16, 2024, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on August 16, 2024, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:31:36 AMThere is a letting for I-57 in the upcoming letting in September
Quote from: mvak36 on August 15, 2024, 08:29:57 AMSeptember 20, 2024 Letting:

(1): Job J9P3751 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway, 3 bridges and 2 box culvert extensions from 2.0 miles south of Poplar Bluff to 4.5 miles south of Poplar Bluff, the total length of improvement being 2.504 miles.
(2): Job J9P3764 Route 67 BUTLER County. Upgrade to freeway from 1.5 mi. south of Route 158 near Harviell to County Road 338, the total length of improvement being 1.647 miles.



Finally starting to get real.  Movement now on both sides of the border.

The question is, when will they connect?

And the answer will be when does Missouri schedule Phase 4?  After the Corning Bypass, Arkansas is doing the segment to the border next.  May not have a designation change upon connection, but at least it doesn't appear as though Missouri and Arkansas will have a Bella Vista Bypass scenario again, even if Arkansas hasn't connected Corning to Walnut Ridge at that point.

Does the $150 million in funding cover the remaining section down to the state line?

Until we see a letting for the 4th phase, Missouri can technically redesignate the funds elsewhere.  Happened during the I-49 construction when Arkansas didn't have our crap together funding-wise to meet up at the border for the Bella Vista Bypass, which caused Missouri to reallocate and then the delay in finishing I-49 until the NWARPC worked with MoDOT on the last bit of federal grants to finish up funding the Missouri side again.

afguy

Article about MoDOT conducting a study about a potential northern extension of the James River Freeway. While any potential construction is years away, the study is already causing controversy.

Freeway facts and fiction: Concerned farmers sift through confusion
QuoteOfficials say the so-called James River Freeway North Loop extension wouldn't be built for decades. But, that's not stopping landowners from gearing up their fight, now.

"We have been good stewards of the land," explained Marcy Greenwade, a farmer and landowner.  "We have used it to provide food to our neighbors and friends in urban areas like Springfield. And we want to make sure that we continue to have the ability to do that. It's a life that I've chosen for my family, for life. " The cows are a welcome sight on her property.

"We are proud to be cattle farmers," Greenwade explained. 

But, the one thing she never wants to look and see on her farmland is a freeway. Greenwade is just one of many landowners upset about plans to extend the James River Freeway from its current endpoint at I-44, north toward Springfield-Branson National Airport and Willard. Residents are afraid the highway project would negatively impact their livelihoods and way of life. 

"The James River Freeway expansion is very concerning to me as both a landowner and as a farmer," said Greenwade.  "We raise cattle and we're proud to raise cattle. My father raised cattle. My grandfather raised cattle. I'm hopeful that my children can do the same and that I can instill that love in the land in the same sort of way that I grew up with them."

Officials said the James River North Loop project is still many years away.  There isn't even a set path or the money in the state budget to fund a study, let alone buy land or build it.  The proposal is in the state's hands, though the county commission has become involved in facilitating communication between residents and planning partners.

Greenwade explained, "I think to some extent, growth is always inevitable, right? We live in a world that's growing and there's not much we can do about that. However, I think that what's important is to look at Greene County as a whole and that this is the last truly rural part of Greene County, this northwestern sector."
https://www.ozarksfirst.com/mike-checks/freeway-facts-and-fiction-county-leaders-concerned-farmers-convoy-of-hope-sift-through-claims/

intelati49

Quote from: afguy on August 23, 2024, 11:43:26 PMArticle about MoDOT conducting a study about a potential northern extension of the James River Freeway. While any potential construction is years away, the study is already causing controversy.

Freeway facts and fiction: Concerned farmers sift through confusion
QuoteOfficials say the so-called James River Freeway North Loop extension wouldn't be built for decades. But, that's not stopping landowners from gearing up their fight, now.

"We have been good stewards of the land," explained Marcy Greenwade, a farmer and landowner.  "We have used it to provide food to our neighbors and friends in urban areas like Springfield. And we want to make sure that we continue to have the ability to do that. It's a life that I've chosen for my family, for life. " The cows are a welcome sight on her property.

"We are proud to be cattle farmers," Greenwade explained. 

But, the one thing she never wants to look and see on her farmland is a freeway. Greenwade is just one of many landowners upset about plans to extend the James River Freeway from its current endpoint at I-44, north toward Springfield-Branson National Airport and Willard. Residents are afraid the highway project would negatively impact their livelihoods and way of life. 

"The James River Freeway expansion is very concerning to me as both a landowner and as a farmer," said Greenwade.  "We raise cattle and we're proud to raise cattle. My father raised cattle. My grandfather raised cattle. I'm hopeful that my children can do the same and that I can instill that love in the land in the same sort of way that I grew up with them."

Officials said the James River North Loop project is still many years away.  There isn't even a set path or the money in the state budget to fund a study, let alone buy land or build it.  The proposal is in the state's hands, though the county commission has become involved in facilitating communication between residents and planning partners.

Greenwade explained, "I think to some extent, growth is always inevitable, right? We live in a world that's growing and there's not much we can do about that. However, I think that what's important is to look at Greene County as a whole and that this is the last truly rural part of Greene County, this northwestern sector."
https://www.ozarksfirst.com/mike-checks/freeway-facts-and-fiction-county-leaders-concerned-farmers-convoy-of-hope-sift-through-claims/
North Springfield loop??

That's an odd concept

The Ghostbuster

Is a North Springfield Loop really needed? Wouldn't expanding Interstate 44 from four to six lanes be sufficient? Given that there is already opposition to a north loop, it might be better to widen 44 if traffic needs warrant such an expansion instead of building a new road.

Revive 755

^ One might be by the time funding is available to built it.  Google already shows the area north of I-44 starting to transition from farmland to residential.  By the time there is more serious consideration of building the corridor the farmers that are currently opposing it will have probably sold out for more developments.

Sani

The closest thing we have to a potential map of the corridor being discussed. From the caption underneath the photo of one of the commissioners:

QuoteGreene County Commissioner, Rusty MacLachlan, is President and CEO of MacLachlan Construction Co., serves on the board of directors for the Springfield Traffic Advisory Board, and the Ozarks Transportation Organization. Rusty created the original James River North Loop Map, which has yet to be disclosed to the general public. The map, below, was recreated by a local blogger based on his recollection of the original map Rusty showed him.




ozarkman417

I can think of a bunch of hypothetical freeways that would be more useful than this northern loop. For instance, we could build a southeast/northwest-oriented freeway from MO 13 to US 65, which would eliminate the need to go through the ever-congested 13/44 interchange. Or, we could build a freeway connecting the much larger southern suburbs (Republic, Nixa, Ozark) with each other, which would eliminate the need to backtrack north to James River Freeway.

Sure, the north side has seen some growth over the years. I work in the northeast and lots of developments have popped up there. But Republic has it beat.

Stephane Dumas

Still one part of that proposed beltway would act as a bypass for US-160 to avoid Willard.

The Ghostbuster

Could the US 160 bypass be expanded to four lanes in lieu of building a northern bypass?

sprjus4

The only realistic option, IMO, is upgrading US-160. It's mostly controlled access, construct a few interchanges and grade separations to replace the few intersections and roundabouts.

There is seemingly zero need for an actual beltway, unless there's a plan to build tens of thousands of new homes throughout that now rural area in the next decade where a freeway would be future planning.

mvak36

A couple of weeks late on this, but it looks like the I-70 project has been split into 8 projects now instead of 6. https://www.modot.org/sites/default/files/documents/2024-08%20Improve%20I-70%20Project%20Placemat.pdf

The Odessa to Marshall and Marshall to Columbia segments were replaced with 3 projects: Odessa-Boonville, Boonville-Rocheport, Rocheport-Columbia. A project was added for a realignment at High Hill.

Tentative timeline of all the projects can be found at https://www.modot.org/improvei70/projects.
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MikieTimT

Looks like I-70 in Missouri will be a mess for the remainder of the decade, then.

mvak36

Quote from: MikieTimT on September 08, 2024, 09:08:57 AMLooks like I-70 in Missouri will be a mess for the remainder of the decade, then.

I think the original plan had it being completed by 2030 so it was already going to be a mess anyways. I'm not sure why they split the projects into more parts (maybe they found some efficiencies), but I think the plan is still to be done by 2030.
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roadman65

I couldn't help notice  on GSV how for Springfield, MO that MDOT uses St. Louis on US 65 for I-44 EB despite Rolla used on other ramps to that interstate heading east.  They must feel the mindset is different for US 65 travelers than the local Springfield drivers.
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paulthemapguy

Quote from: roadman65 on October 24, 2024, 04:09:15 PMI couldn't help notice  on GSV how for Springfield, MO that MDOT uses St. Louis on US 65 for I-44 EB despite Rolla used on other ramps to that interstate heading east.  They must feel the mindset is different for US 65 travelers than the local Springfield drivers.

I wonder if they are taking a page out of Illinois's book, having separate sets of "major" and "minor" control cities.  Major control cities are shown on adjoining major highways, but minor control cities are shown on other roads.
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Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 01, 2024, 09:50:50 AMI wonder if they are taking a page out of Illinois's book, having separate sets of "major" and "minor" control cities.  Major control cities are shown on adjoining major highways, but minor control cities are shown on other roads.

Somewhat similar to Illinois - I think Missouri may still have a few tertiary controls cities/routes or be less consistent with the secondary
instead of Rolla.

Missouri also didn't used to be as good as consistently providing the distance to the primary control city - IIRC the majority of distance signs were just two lines with the next exit and the secondary control city.  Streetview this evening seems to show Missouri using more three line distance signs that include the primary control city.

Great Lakes Roads

#570
Contract has been awarded on another segment of I-70 in Missouri (Warrenton to Wentzville)...

$600 million design-build by Emery Sapp & Sons!

Improvements includes:
-Adding a third lane each way with new concrete pavement (I-70)
-Improving the I-70/I-64/US 61 interchange
-Interchange and outer roads improvement in Wright City
-Adding a third lane each way on I-64 from I-70 to County Road K
-Realignment of I-70 at the railroad
-Bridge replacement in Foristell (DDI with roundabouts at exit 203)

https://www.modot.org/improvei70/warrentonwentzville
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mvak36

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on November 09, 2024, 02:01:32 AMContract has been awarded on another segment of I-70 in Missouri (Warrenton to Wentzville)...

$600 million design-build by Emery Sapp & Sons!

Improvements includes:
-Adding a third lane each way with new concrete pavement (I-70)
-Improving the I-70/I-64/US 61 interchange
-Interchange and outer roads improvement in Wright City
-Adding a third lane each way on I-64 from I-70 to County Road K
-Realignment of I-70 at the railroad
-Bridge replacement in Foristell (DDI with roundabouts at exit 203)

https://www.modot.org/improvei70/warrentonwentzville

That's great news. It looks like the next sections to be let (as of today) are:

Blue Springs to Odessa: Spring 2025. Projected Completion: Fall 2028.
Boonville to Rocheport: Late 2025. Projected Completion: Fall 2027.
High Hill Realigment: Spring 2026. Projected Completion: Summer 2027.
Rocheport to Columbia: Spring 2026. Projected Completion: End 2029.
Kingdom City to Warrenton: Spring 2027. Projected Completion: Summer 2030.
Odessa to Boonville: Late 2027. Projected Completion: End 2030.

Source: https://www.modot.org/improvei70/projects

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splashflash

#572
Interchange at Mo 125 and US 60 completed, November 1, 2024 according to MoDOT website page, with link below.

The long running interchange construction project appears updated to completion on Google Maps:  Cody, MO 65742, USA

https://www.modot.org/missouri-route-125-and-us-route-60-intersection-improvements-greene-and-webster



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