NFL (2024 Season)

[Billy F 1988]

Gruden resigning.  Good.

Chris

Good riddance to awful rubbish. Now Mike Mayoch and Raiders brass can go find a coach worthy enough to work with Derick Carr. Just make sure he doesn't land another Monday Night Football gig. I kind of figured that 10 years for however many dollars just didn't fit the results. That's what one email can do to wreck a guy's tenure. And Gruden's email did just that.

[SectorZ]

Just make sure he doesn't land another Monday Night Football gig.

I am pretty sure he obliterated his chance of any public-facing gig regarding football ever again.

[webny99]

Not sure if anyone else here follows/listens to the Around the NFL podcast, but before the season Marc Sessler predicted that a coach would resign this season, and that a top story in the league would involve an NFL cheerleader. Both things just happened in a span of 24 hours

https://www.gogetmylunch.org/2021offseason

[NWI_Irish96]

Not sure if anyone else here follows/listens to the Around the NFL podcast, but before the season Marc Sessler predicted that a coach would resign this season, and that a top story in the league would involve an NFL cheerleader. Both things just happened in a span of 24 hours

https://www.gogetmylunch.org/2021offseason

Wait, what was the cheerleader story? I missed that, or was it part of Gruden's deal?

[webny99]

Wait, what was the cheerleader story? I missed that, or was it part of Gruden's deal?

Yes, it is/was one of the more disturbing parts of the Gruden resignation, involving some pictures exchanged between Gruden and Bruce Allen... see here.

[thspfc]

Dolphins 35, Jaguars 19
Vikings 27, Panthers 24
Chargers 28, Ravens 21
Rams 33, Giants 20
Colts 38, Texans 26
Chiefs 37, Washington 32
Packers 23, Bears 14
Lions 34, Bengals 27
Cardinals 35, Browns 23
Cowboys 26, Patriots 20
Raiders 19, Broncos 14
Seahawks 21, Steelers 13
Bills 45, Titans 21

The Lions are going to catch the Bengals sleeping after Cincy's predictable yet also incomprehensible loss to the Packers last week. The Seahawks will be motivated and the rest of the team will step up for the time that Wilson is injured.

[kevinb1994]

Finally! Jags win in London.

[1995hoo]

The Jacksonville Dolphins pass the "Football Team" designation to Miami.

[kevinb1994]

The Jacksonville Dolphins pass the "Football Team" designation to Miami.

Not to be confused with the actual Dolphins at the university of the same name.

[Roadgeekteen]

Dolphins 35, Jaguars 19
Vikings 27, Panthers 24
Chargers 28, Ravens 21
Rams 33, Giants 20
Colts 38, Texans 26
Chiefs 37, Washington 32
Packers 23, Bears 14
Lions 34, Bengals 27
Cardinals 35, Browns 23
Cowboys 26, Patriots 20
Raiders 19, Broncos 14
Seahawks 21, Steelers 13
Bills 45, Titans 21

The Lions are going to catch the Bengals sleeping after Cincy's predictable yet also incomprehensible loss to the Packers last week. The Seahawks will be motivated and the rest of the team will step up for the time that Wilson is injured.

That Bengals prediction didn't age well.

[webny99]

Wow, a lot of blowouts today. In fact Dolphins-Jags and Vikings-Panthers were the only close games.

[Roadgeekteen]

Wow, a lot of blowouts today. In fact Dolphins-Jags and Vikings-Panthers were the only close games.

Patriots Cowboys looking to be a nailbiter

[thspfc]

Dolphins 35, Jaguars 19
Vikings 27, Panthers 24
Chargers 28, Ravens 21
Rams 33, Giants 20
Colts 38, Texans 26
Chiefs 37, Washington 32
Packers 23, Bears 14
Lions 34, Bengals 27
Cardinals 35, Browns 23
Cowboys 26, Patriots 20
Raiders 19, Broncos 14
Seahawks 21, Steelers 13
Bills 45, Titans 21

The Lions are going to catch the Bengals sleeping after Cincy's predictable yet also incomprehensible loss to the Packers last week. The Seahawks will be motivated and the rest of the team will step up for the time that Wilson is injured.

That Bengals prediction didn't age well.

No it did not.

On the other hand, I think I'm becoming something of a Bears genius, with two nearly spot-on predictions of theirs, and I picked them to win the Raiders game which they were underdogs in.

Cowboys/Patriots has been quite the fourth quarter. Trevon Diggs is so odd, he leads the league in interceptions by far, yet he gives up a lot of yards and big plays.

[NWI_Irish96]

Mac Jones threw touchdown passes to both teams on consecutive plays.

[webny99]

Wow, well Cowboys-Pats was a bit of a saving grace for this day in the NFL!

The Browns loss to the Cardinals sets up a hugely important TNF game against the Broncos in which the loser will have a losing record... Yikes. Tough spot for both teams, but the Browns had much higher preseason expectations, so they better win this one or they're in rough shape - not only in the division, with the Ravens and Bengals both ahead of them now, but also in the wild card race, since that would put them behind the entire AFC West, with head to head losses to three AFC West teams.

[webny99]

My feelings about the NFC North wrapped up into one way-too-early prediction: the Bears are going to beat the Packers in Lambeau in Week 14 (Dec 12th).

[US 89]

And Geno Smith single-handedly loses the game for Seattle. Once a Jet, always a Jet.

[Alps]

And Geno Smith single-handedly loses the game for Seattle. Once a Jet, always a Jet.

He was the worst decision of any of the QBs the Jets have ruined picked.

[thspfc]

And Geno Smith single-handedly loses the game for Seattle. Once a Jet, always a Jet.

He was the worst decision of any of the QBs the Jets have ruined picked.

They picked Darnold ahead of Josh Allen and Lamar. At least in Geno's draft there were no other real options.

I know that Darnold seemed like the right decision at the time; doesn't change the fact that he's not even an NFL caliber starting QB while Allen and Lamar will win/have won MVPs.

[webny99]

And Geno Smith single-handedly loses the game for Seattle. Once a Jet, always a Jet.

He was the worst decision of any of the QBs the Jets have ruined picked.

They picked Darnold ahead of Josh Allen and Lamar. At least in Geno's draft there were no other real options.

I know that Darnold seemed like the right decision at the time; doesn't change the fact that he's not even an NFL caliber starting QB while Allen and Lamar will win/have won MVPs.

On the other hand, at least they selected Darnold ahead of Josh Rosen! 

[Alps]

And Geno Smith single-handedly loses the game for Seattle. Once a Jet, always a Jet.

He was the worst decision of any of the QBs the Jets have ruined picked.

They picked Darnold ahead of Josh Allen and Lamar. At least in Geno's draft there were no other real options.

I know that Darnold seemed like the right decision at the time; doesn't change the fact that he's not even an NFL caliber starting QB while Allen and Lamar will win/have won MVPs.

Look at the teams that developed them. Switch the teams that drafted Josh Allen and Sam Darnold and I bet you'd have the exact same post with the names switched.

[thspfc]

And Geno Smith single-handedly loses the game for Seattle. Once a Jet, always a Jet.

He was the worst decision of any of the QBs the Jets have ruined picked.

They picked Darnold ahead of Josh Allen and Lamar. At least in Geno's draft there were no other real options.

I know that Darnold seemed like the right decision at the time; doesn't change the fact that he's not even an NFL caliber starting QB while Allen and Lamar will win/have won MVPs.

Look at the teams that developed them. Switch the teams that drafted Josh Allen and Sam Darnold and I bet you'd have the exact same post with the names switched.

Ah yes, the Bills. The pinnacle of NFL excellence, to the tune of one playoff berth from 2000 to 2018.

Last time I checked, Darnold isn't exactly flourishing for the Panthers either, who have a track record of being more competent than both the Bills and Jets.

[webny99]

For the second straight year, the Bills head into their bye on a terrible, gut punch loss.

It really was almost worse than the Hail Murray, and yet I can't even be that mad about it because it was a great game and I respect the heck out of the decision to go for it on 4th & inches.

And the Bills have yet to win a close game. Four blowout wins and two close losses.

[US 89]

I respect the heck out of the decision to go for it on 4th & inches.

I don't. That was just a dumb play call as far as I'm concerned. Going for it there is probably what, a 50% play? Kicking a FG from there gets you three points probably 90% of the time, and then it's extremely unlikely the Titans score again before overtime, which is more or less a toss-up. Plus even if you go for it on that 4th down and get it, you still only have 20 seconds and one timeout, and there's a decent chance you end up kicking the FG anyway to end the half.

Last time I checked, Darnold isn't exactly flourishing for the Panthers either, who have a track record of being more competent than both the Bills and Jets.

Because the Jets got to him first. As I said earlier, once a Jet, always a Jet.

[JayhawkCO]

I respect the heck out of the decision to go for it on 4th & inches.

I don't. That was just a dumb play call as far as I'm concerned. Going for it there is probably what, a 50% play? Kicking a FG from there gets you three points probably 90% of the time, and then it's extremely unlikely the Titans score again before overtime, which is more or less a toss-up. Plus even if you go for it on that 4th down and get it, you still only have 20 seconds and one timeout, and there's a decent chance you end up kicking the FG anyway to end the half.

The analytics numbers I saw call it a 75% chance of success if they went for it.  Let's use a more conservative number and say 60% for argument's sake.  Tennessee would have then had a 1% chance of returning the kickoff or a hail Mary, so then going for it has a 59% chance of winning, or 41% chance of losing.

If they kick the field goal, let's use your number and say it has a 90% success rate.  There's a 10% chance of losing. 

You telling me that there's less than a 31% chance of losing if it goes to overtime? (41% chance from going for it minus 10% chance of missing FG)

At best, the Bills would have been 55/45 in OT, so by kicking a FG, you'd be giving up a 9.5% edge by the most conservative estimation. (59% chance of winning in regulation or 90% x 55% = 49.5% chance of winning in overtime)

Going for it was 100% the right call.

Chris