So the plans for the Springdale Bypass are online on AHTDs website. Bidding is anticipated in December, with completion in 2018. They are 700 pages (without cross-sections), but there are a few interesting things I noticed today
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The signage plans show I-49 and US 71. Rejoyce, AAroads forum members
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The signs for the route itself say TBD where a number would go, but in a US highway shield. I anticipate 412 for continuity but who knows
There are a lot of temporary roads and a ton of bridges. This is a very serious project
ETA: Images. And FYI signing plans are ~ page 140
Do you have a link? I couldn't find it (or can't see it in plain sight :confused:). I'm not too familiar with AHTD's website. Thank You.
Currently Advertised Projects & Announcements
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Thank You
I can't wait for the contractor to put up a US TBD shield ;)
Wonder why Lowell as a control city and not Joplin?
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 07, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
Wonder why Lowell as a control city and not Joplin?
1 name: J.B. Hunt
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 07, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
Wonder why Lowell as a control city and not Joplin?
I would at least use Bentonville
I would guess a large percentage of traffic crossing that point will not be looking for Joplin
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 08, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed
MO has signs up for either Fayetteville or Fort Smith even though there's no BVB.
Maybe Lowell is a temporary green over for the control city when the BVB is completed.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 08, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed
MO has signs up for either Fayetteville or Fort Smith even though there's no BVB.
But most of those signs pre-date I-49
KFSM-TV (http://5newsonline.com/2014/12/17/ahtd-agrees-to-pay-more-than-100-million-for-springdale-bypass/) reports the first section of the 412 Bypass will cost over $100 Million, with construction starting early next year.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 08, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed
MO has signs up for either Fayetteville or Fort Smith even though there's no BVB.
MO had signs up for Fayetteville on I-44 back when the 71 freeway ended at US 60.
This bypass is desperately needed. 412 through Springdale is hell. And there's no decent way to get around it.
Quote from: bugo on December 18, 2014, 03:50:50 AM
This bypass is desperately needed. 412 through Springdale is hell. And there's no decent way to get around it.
It would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
Ahhh, the good ol' "West Monroe Ave"... You don't put cardinal directions on signs like that, according to the MUTCD. But then again, does AHTD follow them? I drive by numerous signs on I-49 with ridiculous abbreviations.
Quote from: M86 on December 21, 2014, 01:47:31 AM
Ahhh, the good ol' "West Monroe Ave"... You don't put cardinal directions on signs like that, according to the MUTCD. But then again, does AHTD follow them? I drive by numerous signs on I-49 with ridiculous abbreviations.
I think it's Greenville, MS that has DRMLKJR BLVD ;)
Quote from: bjrush on December 05, 2014, 07:12:10 PM
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My reaction when I saw that US TBD shield... :rofl:
At least they are putting up a variable message sign, M86
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.
Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.
I've done that drive many times, and the only real improvements that need to be made are a Siloam Springs bypass and a 70 MPH speed limit west of Inola.
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: bjrush on December 05, 2014, 07:12:10 PM
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My reaction when I saw that US TBD shield... :rofl:
The reason that shield says TBD is because at this time we don't know how this first leg of the "bypass" will be named. It won't be U.S. 412. Local leaders are advocating for AR 612, if memory serves. That has some traction but isn't approved.
Said "bypass" is not really going to serve as much on U.S. 412 as it will I-49. Not much traffic on U.S. 412 is destined "through" Springdale, rather Springdale IS the destination.
Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.
Hey, if Missouri could make US-60 four lanes all the way from Springfield to Illinois, then Arkansas can manage US-412 to Harrison.
Quote from: kphoger on February 06, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.
Hey, if Missouri could make US-60 four lanes all the way from Springfield to Illinois, then Arkansas can manage US-412 to Harrison.
Interestingly enough, when I went through there in 2012 the most mountainous sections of road had a couple of handpainted signs on adjoining properties reading "MoDOT SUCKS". Unfortunately, it didn't have any other context as to why MoDOT sucked in this particular case. Guess you can't please everyone, even with an expressway...
Just a guess: maybe the land owners along that stretch of US-60 are saying MoDOT sucks because tax dollars were going into a road rather than into more ag subsidies that would benefit them specifically. Or perhaps they want us to go back to riding on horseback or in horse-drawn carriages.
:-P
Quote from: bugoI've done that drive many times, and the only real improvements that need to be made are a Siloam Springs bypass and a 70 MPH speed limit west of Inola.
That might be good for now, but what about 10-20 years in the future? NW Arkansas is one of the fastest growing regions in the United States. It's pretty much a guarantee traffic levels along the US-412 corridor between Tulsa and Springdale are going to rise a lot in the years ahead.
If a divided highway with at grade insections is "good enough" for now what's wrong with upgrading the road to where it has enough ROW to build a freeway in the future? Either build an expressway with a median wide enough to hold a freeway or add enough ROW to one side or another. That would prevent commercial and residential development from overrunning the corridor as the region grows. When traffic levels make it necessary to build the freeway or toll road no property would have to be bulldozed to make room for it. That could save many millions of dollars.
How much extra did it cost TX DOT to build US-287 between Fort Worth and Amarillo with that large median along so much of the route? If it was ever fully improved into an Interstate highway (I-32 has been the designation kicked around) not many buildings would have to be removed to make room for it.
Quote from: kphogerHey, if Missouri could make US-60 four lanes all the way from Springfield to Illinois, then Arkansas can manage US-412 to Harrison.
What are the traffic counts between Springdale and Harrison versus that of the traffic level between Springdale and Tulsa? I think a fully Interstate quality link between Tulsa and Springdale is a more pressing concern.
^^ I haven't driven US-412 in Oklahoma for several years now, but what's wrong with its median such that it couldn't be upgraded to a freeway in the future? I see a grassy median all the way from Tulsa to West Siloam Springs, then also from Siloam Springs to Tontitown.
Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.
Fictional territory, I know, but wasn't there sporadic talk about the SBP being the first upgrade to what would be an eventual I-42 linking Tulsa and Memphis, and connecting NWA while doing so?
Quote from: MikeSantNY78 on February 07, 2015, 11:05:21 AM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.
It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.
Fictional territory, I know, but wasn't there sporadic talk about the SBP being the first upgrade to what would be an eventual I-42 linking Tulsa and Memphis, and connecting NWA while doing so?
I think it was supposed to upgrade all of US 412 between Tulsa and Jackson, TN.
Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 10:37:16 AM
^^ I haven't driven US-412 in Oklahoma for several years now, but what's wrong with its median such that it couldn't be upgraded to a freeway in the future? I see a grassy median all the way from Tulsa to West Siloam Springs, then also from Siloam Springs to Tontitown.
Not wide enough in AR. Plus the real problems are at Siloam Springs and Tontitown to wherever the western end of the Springdale bypass is.
Quote from: rte66man on February 07, 2015, 08:33:41 PM
Plus the real problems are at Siloam Springs and Tontitown to wherever the western end of the Springdale bypass is.
Tontitown will all be bypassed: http://www.arkansashighways.com/environmental/environmental_studies/001966/Maps/001966_2008.05.25_DPH_Disp_Cou.pdf
From there to Siloam Springs is Ozark National Forest, so it shouldn't have sprawl problems. The only issue then is Siloam Springs and its 1961 bypass. A new bypass was being considered in 2007 (http://www.siloamsprings.com/government/announcements.php), and could be built in the future if desired.
Quote from: NE2 on February 07, 2015, 08:43:32 PM
Quote from: rte66man on February 07, 2015, 08:33:41 PM
Plus the real problems are at Siloam Springs and Tontitown to wherever the western end of the Springdale bypass is.
Tontitown will all be bypassed: http://www.arkansashighways.com/environmental/environmental_studies/001966/Maps/001966_2008.05.25_DPH_Disp_Cou.pdf
From there to Siloam Springs is Ozark National Forest, so it shouldn't have sprawl problems. The only issue then is Siloam Springs and its 1961 bypass. A new bypass was being considered in 2007 (http://www.siloamsprings.com/government/announcements.php), and could be built in the future if desired.
Didn't realize the Springdale Bypass went that far west. It will take AHTD and ODOT another 20 years to build a Siloam Springs bypass.
They need to get off their fucking dicks and build a Siloam Springs bypass. The current route is full of lights, slow, packed with traffic, and just sucks.
Quote from: bugo on February 07, 2015, 09:43:56 PM
They need to get off their fucking dicks and build a Siloam Springs bypass. The current route is full of lights, slow, packed with traffic, and just sucks.
Right after they replace the Broadway Bridge, the I-30 bridge, and widen I-630 ;)
Quote from: rte66man on February 07, 2015, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 10:37:16 AM
^^ I haven't driven US-412 in Oklahoma for several years now, but what's wrong with its median such that it couldn't be upgraded to a freeway in the future? I see a grassy median all the way from Tulsa to West Siloam Springs, then also from Siloam Springs to Tontitown.
Not wide enough in AR. Plus the real problems are at Siloam Springs and Tontitown to wherever the western end of the Springdale bypass is.
Not wide enough for what? A freeway is a freeway, regardless of the median width. Just pave or over and put up a Jersey barrier. Or do like I-44 in southern Oklahoma and just put a cable barrier in the middle. You don't need fifty feet of median space to make a freeway median.
I think they need to widen pretty much every state road in the city limits of Fay/Sdale/Rogers/Bville and I-49 to 8 lanes and build the entire US 412 bypass before a new terrain Siloam Springs bypass. I'm not sure there is this great influx of traffic between Tulsa and Springdale, or that that traffic is a priority to AHTD compared to connectivity within the actual metro areas
Why wasn't the first segment of the Pine Bluff bypass signed as AR 565? Instead it was signed as spur US 65. Maybe the first part of the Springdale bypass will be signed as spur US 412. That would explain why the "TBD" is in a shield.
Maybe the first phase will be US 71S, since it'll go from I-49/US 71 west to the airport. Or maybe it'll be US 980.
Quote from: NE2 on February 08, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
Maybe the first phase will be US 71S, since it'll go from I-49/US 71 west to the airport. Or maybe it'll be US 980.
I vote for AR 68 ;)
What will the freeway spur to the airport be numbered as? AR 512? AR 980? US 412S?
Two things to note here:
The Springdale bypass is being constructed as a four-lane divided, FULLY CONTROLLED ACCESS (read: Interstate) facility. At this time the only exits/interchanges along the route are at I-49 and State Highway 112.
That stated, the construction will actually end just to the west of State Highway 112 at the location where the NWA airport access road will be constructed. Public access will terminate at State Highway 112 until the airport access road is open.
Which brings us to the second note.... the airport access road will be constructed and maintained by the airport authority. It will not become part of the state highway system but rather exist as a private drive.
The plans are no longer on the site, are they?
Here is what we currently have:
From the Connecting Arkansas Program web site:
http://www.connectingarkansasprogram.com/corridors/21/highway-412-benton-county/#.VNkFwGB0zDc
From the Arkansas Highways web site (old stuff):
http://www.arkansashighways.com/environmental/environmental_studies/001966/001966.aspx
Was there something else somewhere else?
Quote from: bjrush on December 06, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
Currently Advertised Projects & Announcements
http://www.arkansashighways.com/ProgCon/General/JOBS_include.aspx
Quote from: NE2 on February 09, 2015, 01:43:23 PM
The plans are no longer on the site, are they?
The plans have been moved from the "Current" link posted in the above quote to the "Previous"" construction plans:
http://www.arkansashighways.com/ProgCon/PREVIOUS%20LETTING%20PLANS/2014/DEC%202014/CA0907.PDF
Quote from: Grzrd on February 09, 2015, 02:55:46 PM
The plans have been moved from the "Current" link posted in the above quote to the "Previous"" construction plans:
http://www.arkansashighways.com/ProgCon/PREVIOUS%20LETTING%20PLANS/2014/DEC%202014/CA0907.PDF
Ah, thanks. Apart from the screenshots posted above, the following is of interest:
*112 south will be signed TO WEST 412 from the bypass south. The bypass probably shouldn't be signed this way on I-49, however, unless the 2 miles of US 412 from I-49 to 112 are particularly bad (and 112 is just fine through Elm Springs). Interestingly, a few of the assemblies show TO WEST TBD instead. The obvious implication is that the first draft of the plans had 412 in all places (it is in fact being built as Route 412 section 2), but they realized it would not be a good way to sign 412 for now.
*Exit 9: 112 / Elm Springs / Cave Springs (why not use the distance from the state line?)
I'm sure it's a long shot, but since this will be an Interstate-grade facility, is there any chance of an I-149 designation?
No to I-149. It will simply be US 412.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 09, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
I'm sure it's a long shot, but since this will be an Interstate-grade facility, is there any chance of an I-149 designation?
Be kind of silly, IMO, since whatever it is designated will likely be a temp designation until it's completed and becomes the new 412.
412 could be concurrent with the interstate.........
..........haha, just kidding, this is Arkansas.
Quote from: Grzrd on December 09, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
"Aerotropolis" is now enshrined in MAP-21 (http://www.rules.house.gov/Media/file/PDF_112_2/LegislativeText/CRPT-112hrpt-HR4348.pdf), too (page 70/599 of pdf; page 70 of document):
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"˜"˜(i) DEFINITION OF AEROTROPOLIS TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.–
In this section, the term "˜aerotropolis transportation system' means a planned and coordinated multimodal freight and passenger transportation network that, as determined by the Secretary, provides efficient, cost-effective, sustainable, and intermodal connectivity to a defined region of economic significance centered around a major airport.''
(above quote from Georgia (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.msg189780#msg189780) thread)
Quote from: NE2 on February 28, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
Great, another shitty buzzword.
(above quote from I-69 in MI; Interstate 69 Corridor Aerotropolis (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6207.msg137050#msg137050) thread)
Quote from: AHTD on February 09, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
The Springdale bypass is being constructed as a four-lane divided, FULLY CONTROLLED ACCESS (read: Interstate) facility. At this time the only exits/interchanges along the route are at I-49 and State Highway 112 .... the airport access road will be constructed and maintained by the airport authority. It will not become part of the state highway system but rather exist as a private drive.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 09, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
I'm sure it's a long shot, but since this will be an Interstate-grade facility, is there any chance of an I-149 designation?
When I first saw a recent AHTD slide providing an update on NWA I-49 projects that was discussed in this post (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg2040037#msg2040037), I noticed that this US 412 project was included as one of the projects, and I thought that AHTD intended to designate an I-x49 from I-49 to the airport entrance road under some sort of an aerotropolis concept for the booming NWA area.
However, upon reflection, I decided that the greater probability is that it was included simply because it involves construction of an interchange along I-49. Oh, well .......
Quote from: Grzrd on February 13, 2015, 11:13:38 AM
When I first saw a recent AHTD slide providing an update on NWA I-49 projects that was discussed in this post (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg2040037#msg2040037), I noticed that this US 412 project was included as one of the projects, and I thought that AHTD intended to designate an I-x49 from I-49 to the airport entrance road under some sort of an aerotropolis concept for the booming NWA area.
However, upon reflection, I decided that the greater probability is that it was included simply because it involves construction of an interchange along I-49.
This article (http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/mar/20/ground-breaking-set-for-new-springdale-/?f=latest) reports that the groundbreaking for the project will be April 15 and that the "new new route for U.S. 412 will run between Arkansas 112 and Interstate 49...":
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Regional planners were told Thursday the ground breaking for the first 4.5-mile section of the long-awaited U.S. 412 Springdale Northern Bypass is set for April 15.
The new new route for U.S. 412 will run between Arkansas 112 and Interstate 49 north of the city.
The bypass is intended to relieve congestion through Springdale on Sunset Boulevard, South Thompson and Robinson Avenue, the city's main east-west route, which is designated U.S. 412. Traffic studies say about 25,000 vehicles a day travel the route, according to highway officials.
The project includes divided highway, 12 bridges and new interchanges at Arkansas 112, just north of Marchant Road and Carrie Smith Road, and I-49 between Wagon Wheel Road and Arkansas 264. It includes the re-routing and replacement of side roads along the corridor, according to the Arkansas Highway and Transportation Department.
Quote from: Grzrd on December 09, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
"Aerotropolis" is now enshrined in MAP-21 (http://www.rules.house.gov/Media/file/PDF_112_2/LegislativeText/CRPT-112hrpt-HR4348.pdf), too (page 70/599 of pdf; page 70 of document):
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"˜"˜(i) DEFINITION OF AEROTROPOLIS TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.–
In this section, the term "˜aerotropolis transportation system' means a planned and coordinated multimodal freight and passenger transportation network that, as determined by the Secretary, provides efficient, cost-effective, sustainable, and intermodal connectivity to a defined region of economic significance centered around a major airport.''
(above quote from Georgia (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.msg189780#msg189780) thread)
The above-linked article also reports that the airport access road will be restricted access:
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The section is also the jumping off point for a proposed new access road to the Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport.
The access road can connect where the bypass will intersect with Arkansas 112 rather than the airport road going south eight miles all the way to U.S. 412 as was originally envisioned. The connection point at Arkansas 112 will save about four miles of road construction. The road to the airport will be a restricted access highway.
Airport officials are in the process of obtaining final environmental approval for an airport access road that will connect to the bypass. The airport has about $14 million in federal money for the estimated $30 million project and is working to find the rest.
Hmmmmm....... :hmm:
They probably mean limited/controlled access.
Quote from: NE2 on March 21, 2015, 12:18:25 AM
They probably mean limited/controlled access.
Yes. The airport road will be a privately-owned toll facility, if memory serves correct.
Quote from: US71 on March 21, 2015, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 21, 2015, 12:18:25 AM
They probably mean limited/controlled access.
Yes. The airport road will be a privately-owned toll facility, if memory serves correct.
That's silly. You presumably have to pay to park, so why not just raise that if you need to pay for the access road?
Quote from: NE2 on March 21, 2015, 01:39:21 AM
Quote from: US71 on March 21, 2015, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 21, 2015, 12:18:25 AM
They probably mean limited/controlled access.
Yes. The airport road will be a privately-owned toll facility, if memory serves correct.
That's silly. You presumably have to pay to park, so why not just raise that if you need to pay for the access road?
If Wal-Mart wills it, it will happen.
More money to be made by also charging cars that are just dropping off or picking up passengers.
Quote from: dfwmapper on March 21, 2015, 07:20:55 PM
More money to be made by also charging cars that are just dropping off or picking up passengers.
Spoken like a man who has been to DFW.
Quote from: rte66man on March 21, 2015, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: dfwmapper on March 21, 2015, 07:20:55 PM
More money to be made by also charging cars that are just dropping off or picking up passengers.
Spoken like a man who has been to DFW.
What's interesting is that the cash toll is $2 for 0-8 minutes (i.e. passing through) but only $1 for 8-30 minutes.
It's $2 cash for 0-30 minutes, or $1 with a TollTag. Before the DFW Connector project finished and widened SH 114 to 23 lanes (not hyperbole, there really is a part that is 23 lanes wide between the frontage roads, freeways, and express lanes), it was often faster to cut through the airport than slog through that bullshit. Probably not needed as a deterrent anymore now that it's done, but have you seen how nice the renovated terminals look? Have to pay for them somehow.
Quote from: Grzrd on March 20, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
This article (http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/mar/20/ground-breaking-set-for-new-springdale-/?f=latest)
Quote from: NE2 on March 21, 2015, 01:39:21 AM
Quote from: US71 on March 21, 2015, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 21, 2015, 12:18:25 AM
They probably mean limited/controlled access.
Yes. The airport road will be a privately-owned toll facility, if memory serves correct.
That's silly. You presumably have to pay to park, so why not just raise that if you need to pay for the access road?
In terms of actual monetary figures, the above-linked article indicates that $14 million of federal money is already allocated for the access road and that the airport needs to come up with approximately another $16 million to build it:
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Airport officials are in the process of obtaining final environmental approval for an airport access road that will connect to the bypass. The airport has about $14 million in federal money for the estimated $30 million project and is working to find the rest.
We held a groundbreaking ceremony last week to officially get construction underway on the first segment. Take a look!
https://vimeo.com/125619066
Quote from: AHTD on April 23, 2015, 10:50:01 AM
We held a groundbreaking ceremony last week to officially get construction underway on the first segment. Take a look!
vimeo movie
Woah, so I'm way behind here. *Scurries off to AHTD website*
Edit: So basically exactly the west side of the Exhibits that I have... Never would have guessed...
I got a quick glance today from Ar 112 There are bridge columns under construction for a bridge on 112 over the 412 Bypass. One appears to be finished, but I didn't have a good place to stop for any further investigation (there is almost NO shoulder on 112 and I found no good places to turn off).
Yes, Arkansas State Highway 112 will be routed over the bypass. The interchange at 112 will be one of two. The other is at I-49.
The bypass will only go as far as 112 unless somebody builds something else we can connect to. :hmmm:
Quote from: Grzrd on March 20, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
This article (http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/mar/20/ground-breaking-set-for-new-springdale-/?f=latest) .... reports that the airport access road will be restricted access:
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The section is also the jumping off point for a proposed new access road to the Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport.
The access road can connect where the bypass will intersect with Arkansas 112 rather than the airport road going south eight miles all the way to U.S. 412 as was originally envisioned. The connection point at Arkansas 112 will save about four miles of road construction. The road to the airport will be a restricted access highway.
Airport officials are in the process of obtaining final environmental approval for an airport access road that will connect to the bypass. The airport has about $14 million in federal money for the estimated $30 million project and is working to find the rest.
This article (http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2015/oct/01/xna-access-road-on-schedule-for-2019-20/) reports that two potential routes for the airport access road have been identified, that environmental studies are ongoing, that one of the two routes will probably be abandoned because of impact on snail darter habitat, and that the road could possibly open in spring or summer of 2019:
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Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport officials hope to have a long-awaited access road built and open by spring or summer 2019, if all goes well.
The access road is expected to be a restricted highway about 4 miles long and will connect where the U.S. 412 Northern Bypass intersects with Arkansas 112. The airport has about $14 million in federal money for the estimated $30 million project and is working to find the rest ....
Officials hope to have environmental impact studies submitted to state and federal highway officials in December and to be in position to request public input hearings about the location of the road.
Both routes are around the southwest side of Cave Springs and outside the Cave Springs Recharge Area.
As always in Northwest Arkansas, a tiny fish could play a role. In this case it's the snail darter. Habitat of the protected species was found in the area and is likely to result in one of the routes being abandoned.
"The darter will have a big impact on the route," said Jerry Farrar, a consultant from CH2M Hill. "Our biggest concern is dealing with (U.S.) Fish and Wildlife."
Quote from: AHTD on March 16, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
The first leg of the Springdale northern bypass to be constructed will be funded by the half-cent sales tax approved by Arkansas voters in November 2012.
http://www.connectingarkansasprogram.com/corridors/21/highway-412-benton-county/ (http://www.connectingarkansasprogram.com/corridors/21/highway-412-benton-county/)
This will extend from I-540 to State Highway 112. HOWEVER...we will construct a usable section just past State Highway 112 to the point where the XNA access road will tie-in. Public access will end at State Highway 112, but should XNA build its access road, we'll have something for them to connect with.
All questions about the XNA access road should be directed to that authority.
(above quote from Is there still a four-lane road planned to get to XNA airport? (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11797.msg286016#msg286016) thread)
Also, officials are considering whether to initially build just two lanes, and AHTD may build approximately one mile of the road that will connect with the U.S. 412 interchange:
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Farrar said consultants need to accelerate their efforts to update cost estimates for right-of-way acquisition and design for the project. No concrete decisions have been made on whether to do the full four-lane project or to begin by grading for four lanes and build two.
Scott Van Laningham, executive director of the airport, said the highway department is considering doing about a mile of the road on the south end beginning at the Arkansas 112 interchange, but no decision has been made.
Highway crews are moving earth for an interchange just south of Cave Springs that will be part of the U.S. 412 Bypass and the jumping off point for the access road. The bypass route runs from Interstate 49 near the Wagon Wheel Road interchange east to Arkansas 112.