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US 412 Bypass - Springdale, Arkansas

Started by bjrush, December 05, 2014, 07:12:10 PM

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bjrush

So the plans for the Springdale Bypass are online on AHTDs website. Bidding is anticipated in December, with completion in 2018. They are 700 pages (without cross-sections), but there are a few interesting things I noticed today



The signage plans show I-49 and US 71. Rejoyce, AAroads forum members



The signs for the route itself say TBD where a number would go, but in a US highway shield. I anticipate 412 for continuity but who knows

There are a lot of temporary roads and a ton of bridges. This is a very serious project

ETA: Images. And FYI signing plans are ~ page 140
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mvak36

Do you have a link? I couldn't find it (or can't see it in plain sight :confused:). I'm not too familiar with AHTD's website. Thank You.
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bjrush

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US71

I can't wait for the contractor to put up a US TBD shield ;)
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Scott5114

Wonder why Lowell as a control city and not Joplin?
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bjrush

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 07, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
Wonder why Lowell as a control city and not Joplin?

I would at least use Bentonville

I would guess a large percentage of traffic crossing that point will not be looking for Joplin
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bassoon1986

maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed

US71

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Scott5114

Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 08, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed

MO has signs up for either Fayetteville or Fort Smith even though there's no BVB.
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codyg1985

Maybe Lowell is a temporary green over for the control city when the BVB is completed.
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US71

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 08, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed

MO has signs up for either Fayetteville or Fort Smith even though there's no BVB.

But most of those signs pre-date I-49
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US71

KFSM-TV reports the first section of the 412 Bypass will cost over $100 Million, with construction starting early next year.
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bugo

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 08, 2014, 10:26:13 AM
maybe Lowell is in the plans now because BVB is not yet completed

MO has signs up for either Fayetteville or Fort Smith even though there's no BVB.

MO had signs up for Fayetteville on I-44 back when the 71 freeway ended at US 60.

bugo

This bypass is desperately needed. 412 through Springdale is hell. And there's no decent way to get around it.

Wayward Memphian

Quote from: bugo on December 18, 2014, 03:50:50 AM
This bypass is desperately needed. 412 through Springdale is hell. And there's no decent way to get around it.

It would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.

M86

Ahhh, the good ol' "West Monroe Ave"... You don't put cardinal directions on signs like that, according to the MUTCD.  But then again, does AHTD follow them?  I drive by numerous signs on I-49 with ridiculous abbreviations.

US71

Quote from: M86 on December 21, 2014, 01:47:31 AM
Ahhh, the good ol' "West Monroe Ave"... You don't put cardinal directions on signs like that, according to the MUTCD.  But then again, does AHTD follow them?  I drive by numerous signs on I-49 with ridiculous abbreviations.
I think it's Greenville, MS that has DRMLKJR BLVD ;)
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bjrush

At least they are putting up a variable message sign, M86
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Bobby5280

QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.

It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.

bugo

Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.

It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.

I've done that drive many times, and the only real improvements that need to be made are a Siloam Springs bypass and a 70 MPH speed limit west of Inola.

AHTD

Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: bjrush on December 05, 2014, 07:12:10 PM

My reaction when I saw that US TBD shield... :rofl:

The reason that shield says TBD is because at this time we don't know how this first leg of the "bypass" will be named. It won't be U.S. 412. Local leaders are advocating for AR 612, if memory serves. That has some traction but isn't approved.

Said "bypass" is not really going to serve as much on U.S. 412 as it will I-49. Not much traffic on U.S. 412 is destined "through" Springdale, rather Springdale IS the destination.

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kphoger

Quote from: Bobby5280 on December 29, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
QuoteIt would be a dream come true for a 4 lane divided all the way to Harrison, but 412 across the State would be miraculous,well at least to US 67.

It might be a more realistic dream to have US-412 completely upgraded to an Interstate quality facility between Tulsa and Springdale. Obviously the gaps between the Cherokee Turnpike and Springdale Bypass will get more difficult to fill as more development goes up along the corridor. It might be a little forward thinking for OK DOT and AHTD to acquire ROW for the corridor.

Hey, if Missouri could make US-60 four lanes all the way from Springfield to Illinois, then Arkansas can manage US-412 to Harrison.
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