AARoads is going to be putting a shield gallery together soon... and we're looking for any and all examples of old highway signs that conform to obsolete standards. Whether they be cutout US shields, or a former style of state marker (i.e. Florida with the keys), whatever ... either stand-alone or on green/black/white guide signs.
the first step is to find them... so please post links to pictures, websites, etc, that have them. If they're copyrighted, we'll get the permissions as necessary, but the first thing to do is simply find them. Whether they're field photos, or people's collections, either way works.
I'm especially interested in long-dead websites that I may not know about, or failed to catch when they were around - so if anyone is an archive.org expert, now is your time to shine. For example, most of these links are quite dead, but I know they had good information back in the day:
http://www.gribblenation.com/links.html (http://www.gribblenation.com/links.html)
(quick, anyone wanna find Spui or Mr Yamamoto??)
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Old Polaroids taken pre Y2K
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thanks!
can we put those on the AAroads shield gallery when it is online? if so, how would you like to be credited?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 28, 2009, 07:02:42 PM
thanks!
can we put those on the AAroads shield gallery when it is online? if so, how would you like to be credited?
Go ahead and use my name.
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There's also a collection at the Univ of Arkansas with old signs and another in Oklahoma. I'll ask Jeremy Lance where those are at.
I've also got a message out to Yamamoto as well as Mark Roberts from cosmos-monitor.
whoo hoo, thanks!
Very cool cutouts US71. The old state shaped cutouts are quite nice.
You can use the two old style U.S highway signs I photographed in Prichard the other day. That's as old as it gets outside of keys shields in this region.
*takes photos of historic US 40 in Vacaville*
Quote from: aaroads on January 28, 2009, 10:53:25 PM
You can use the two old style U.S highway signs I photographed in Prichard the other day. That's as old as it gets outside of keys shields in this region.
cool! those are definitely going to go up... I'm trying to get a variety of shapes and styles.
I have 3469 files collected on my hard drive right now. Not all of those are shields, and I don't yet have the permission to use them all, but I imagine at least 1000 will make the gallery initially, and then as many as 2000.
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This is a little subtle:
the MO 13 sign is current, but MO 86 is 60's era: a little but smaller silhouette & smaller numbers.
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Older Mississippi highway sign
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One must not forget the "rainbow" signs :nod:
Robert Lee has several on state-ends.com, but he seems to have disappeared. He hasn't updated since February of last year, and I sent in a couple of pictures since then.
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one certainly must not forget the rainbow shields. When did you take that photo? I last saw them in July of 08... and that was the only gantry left, as far as I know.
I've got a few, but a lot of them are available elsewhere. Some aren't, though:
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I've got versions without watermarks, as well.
I don't think I've ever seen photos of Interstate 195 Virginia shields that are in the 3di shield.
When was the last time you saw an Interstate 85 Virginia shield? I swore I saw one in 1999 in Petersburg, but could never find it on return visits.
There are a select few normal-size (and neutered) 3di I-195 shields floating about in Richmond.
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(There's also one more on Idlewood Avenue at the ramp to northbound I-195, and two on Hamilton Street...those are the only ones I'm aware of)
As for the state-named I-85 shield in Petersburg, I'm not entirely sure I want to go to Petersburg to search for one, but if it's anywhere it'd likely be at the Squirrel Level Rd interchange.
Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on February 03, 2009, 11:45:05 PM
There are a select few normal-size (and neutered) 3di I-195 shields floating about in Richmond.
As for the state-named I-85 shield in Petersburg, I'm not entirely sure I want to go to Petersburg to search for one. :P
I've probably seen the neutered I-195's once or twice. As for the Interstate 85 VA, I've scoured the area a couple of times, but did not drive down all possible streets looking for it. However as it is impossible to find an I-77 VA shield anymore, it is equally impossible to find an I-85 VA. All of the signage along U.S. 1 southwest of the city to NC were replaced around 2000 or so.
Next time I'm in Petersburg (which you can probably tell is fairly uncommon), I'll see if I can find an I-85 VA shield. I might drive around this weekend since I'll be off work. Maybe I'll go then.
As for other state-name shields, I might be mistaken but if I recall correctly the last I-295 VA shield was replaced a couple years ago; it was on the southbound C/D lanes at US 1/I-95 in Glen Allen.
Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on February 04, 2009, 12:06:11 AM
Next time I'm in Petersburg (which you can probably tell is fairly uncommon), I'll see if I can find an I-85 VA shield. I might drive around this weekend since I'll be off work. Maybe I'll go then.
As for other state-name shields, I might be mistaken but if I recall correctly the last I-295 VA shield was replaced a couple years ago; it was on the southbound C/D lanes at US 1/I-95 in Glen Allen.
Yes there was one on each side of the c/d roadway there: https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/virginia200/i-295_nb_exit_043_01.jpg (https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/virginia200/i-295_nb_exit_043_01.jpg) Those were removed by the mid-2000s. There was also one near Short Pump at one point, but that also is gone.
Are the Interstate 95 Virginia shields toward Emporia still around, or have they also succumbed?
I haven't been down there, so I wouldn't know.
I know there are a ton of I-95 Virginia shields up in the Spotsylvania area, along US 1/17. There's even a LGS with a state-name shield on it (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/2099460211/), but these all appear to be fairly new. In fact, Stafford and Spotsylvania Counties have a great deal of I-95 Virginia shields. There was one in Prince William County, on US 1 at SR 619 outside Quantico Marine Corps Base, but it got knocked over by a motorist in early 2007, and was gone by mid-2008.
Quote from: aaroads on February 04, 2009, 12:27:59 AM
Are the Interstate 95 Virginia shields toward Emporia still around, or have they also succumbed?
When I was through there last month...they were still there.
An example of the FL Keys shield:
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I've photographed some of the Interstate 95 Virginia shields hanging around the side roads of the freeway corridor between Richmond and Washington. Fortunately there are several of those around. Interstate 66 VA shields are not to hard to find, as are Interstate 81's and 64's in the mountains. There was an Interstate 64 VA shield on the westbound mainline at one point (don't know if its still there?) after the I-295 interchange.'
Hampton Roads is pretty devoid of state-named shields. I found some white-box shields and a couple for I-64, but nothing for I-464, 564, or 664. As mentioned above, I-295 is devoid of any now. Roanoke OTOH has a few I-581 VA white box shields (I found another in December).
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Quote from: aaroads on February 04, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
There was an Interstate 64 VA shield on the westbound mainline at one point (don't know if its still there?) after the I-295 interchange.'
This is gone now.
I was in Richmond today, and there are still lots of I-195 VA shields in downtown Richmond, including some that I didn't know existed on Canal Street at 12th Street. There are assemblies with vintage I-195, I-64, I-95, and VA 195 signage on Canal Street before 12th, at 12th, at 9th, and at the 8th Street ramp to VA 195. As a bonus, there are old US 60 and VA 147 (non-cutout) shields at 9th and Cary.
There's even an old, possibly original overhead sign at the 12th Street ramp to VA 195.
I don't have any photos of these, though, because parking in downtown Richmond is a nightmare, and traffic is so bad in the Shockoe Slip that photographing them from inside my car is tantamount to suicide. This might explain why Richmond hasn't removed the signs - Richmond-style VA 195 unisigns are EXTREMELY rare (even rarer than Virginia state-named shields), and I only know of two in existence (near Idlewood Avenue in Carytown, and on 8th Street just before Cary Street).
You are welcome to use anything you wish on millenniumhwy.net! Several from Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia as well a few from Ohio and Tennessee.
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Here's a state name I-5 shield
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Here's an ancient SR 167/I-405 overhead sign on SR 900 at the northern terminus of SR 167 in Renton. It reflects an earlier time when 167 continued north on Rainier into Seattle, an alignment that hasn't existed since the early 70's
Quote from: aaroads on February 04, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
I've photographed some of the Interstate 95 Virginia shields hanging around the side roads of the freeway corridor between Richmond and Washington. Fortunately there are several of those around. Interstate 66 VA shields are not to hard to find, as are Interstate 81's and 64's in the mountains. There was an Interstate 64 VA shield on the westbound mainline at one point (don't know if its still there?) after the I-295 interchange.'
Hampton Roads is pretty devoid of state-named shields. I found some white-box shields and a couple for I-64, but nothing for I-464, 564, or 664. As mentioned above, I-295 is devoid of any now. Roanoke OTOH has a few I-581 VA white box shields (I found another in December).
I'd have to verify but I am sure that there are I-95 VA shields south of Petersburg.
Quote from: US71 on January 28, 2009, 06:42:59 PM
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When I first saw this, it looked like you took a photo through a windshield that just had a bloody encounter with a deer.
Sykotyk
thanks for all the photos! we're accumulating a really good batch of old sign photos ... we'll debut the sign gallery website in just a couple of days when we get the surrounding HTML code finalized.
Feel free to use any of these if you don't already have them:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/sets/72157604106475244/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/sets/72157604106475244/)
If you need a watermark-free image, let me know and I'll send it your way.
I have photos that I sent to alpsroads. They're under the credited name Costa Ioannidis. If I need to send them via email, that's fine too.
corco, nice pics! Man, those would be great for Wikipedia. :D
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^^ That's a cool looking sign. I wish Georgia still had some of those around. Well, they might have some on less traveled roads.
Be well,
Bryant
i have an old US 277 sign now
IM SO HAPPY
Do you have any photos?
Man, i wish i had the foresight to take pictures of US 26 eastbound a couple miles before the Vista Ridge tunnel when i was still very young. Not only were the BGSs unusual in the fact that the reassurance shields were posted above the signs, but all the route shields for I-405 and US 26 were cutouts with the state names! Well, the first gantry after the zoo exit had the classic US 26 with state name, but the next four gantries used California style US shields. Even the gantries after the tunnel before merging onto I-405 or exiting to downtown were set up in such a way. The new signs that replaced these several years ago still have the reassurance shields posted over the BGS itself, but now feature the square back US shield and non-state name Interstate shields. If there were any roadgeeks in Portland whom have snapped pictures of the gantries before they got updated (prior to the late 90's), i'd love to have copies!
QuoteQuoteQuote from: aaroads on February 04, 2009, 12:27:59 AM
Are the Interstate 95 Virginia shields toward Emporia still around, or have they also succumbed?
When I was through there last month...they were still there.
As of April 19th, they still are there.
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I posted this in another thread, but for those who don't care so much about US 33/US 250's status in Richmond, VA (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi622.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt304%2F24DIDNOTWIN%2FNMONROESTATUS250.jpg&hash=0a8d707f214336fa91781c82099c80e5a892a8b6)
The Florida 399 Toll shield and toll schedule sign are both gone (likely from Hurricanes Ivan and Dennis). There is no signage at all for "399" on westbound and just one jct. shield eastbound. Its pretty crummy how unsigned it is now.
It gets no respect! And it was signed as state (to the Escambia County Line) when it was county? It was odd to see the Toll shield.
I found this in Oklahoma back in January
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"Railroad Crossing
Look Out For The Cars"
that picture almost reminds me of a Clarion, Ia RR crossing
QuoteIt gets no respect! And it was signed as state (to the Escambia County Line) when it was county? It was odd to see the Toll shield.
There were Florida 399 shields posted on the beach road from the National Seashore west to the Navarre Beach Causeway turn to the mainline. Those are all gone now. The one County 399 shield I remembered (2002) was in Pensacola Beach, but it was gone by 2006. I have not been out there since 2007, so I need to check it out at some point.
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QuoteThere were Florida 399 shields posted on the beach road from the National Seashore west to the Navarre Beach Causeway turn to the mainline. Those are all gone now. The one County 399 shield I remembered (2002) was in Pensacola Beach, but it was gone by 2006. I have not been out there since 2007, so I need to check it out at some point.
Do you mean east to the mainline? :colorful: It was in Santa Rosa County, right? I was perplexed as to why it was signed as state from the Escambia County Line to US 98 at Navarre, and never was in the Fed-Aid log or anything (not even the section number to get a correct mileage).
Quote from: florida on May 13, 2009, 10:45:41 PM
QuoteThere were Florida 399 shields posted on the beach road from the National Seashore west to the Navarre Beach Causeway turn to the mainline. Those are all gone now. The one County 399 shield I remembered (2002) was in Pensacola Beach, but it was gone by 2006. I have not been out there since 2007, so I need to check it out at some point.
Do you mean east to the mainline? :colorful: It was in Santa Rosa County, right? I was perplexed as to why it was signed as state from the Escambia County Line to US 98 at Navarre, and never was in the Fed-Aid log or anything (not even the section number to get a correct mileage).
Yes, I meant east to the causeway. I was looking through photos when I had to research Santa Rosa County for a wall map, and the SR-399 shields were still posted in February 2006.
There was also at least one SR-399 shield posted on U.S. 98 east at that time as well.
Incidentally, a kodakrome era arrow is still alive on CR 191C northbound at U.S. 98.
I was reading on the Fort Myers newspress tonight and came across some interesting photos from an article they had on 125 years of transportation. Some included old photos of McGregor Boulevard and some of Interstate 75 before it was opened, including this one:
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A button-copy guide sign with a state named Interstate 75 shield being prepared for installation. Photo taken in 1979.
Froggie has a photo of this already but here is a closeup I took of the US 17 cutout in Tappahannock, VA:
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Quote from: AARoads on May 13, 2009, 10:33:20 PM
QuoteIt gets no respect! And it was signed as state (to the Escambia County Line) when it was county? It was odd to see the Toll shield.
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No shields at all for CR 399 posted anywhere south of U.S. 98 now.
I know, and I really like that gallery. :P
good to see so many cutouts standing as late as 2007!
I had it in the number game, but I'll post it since it's very unique.
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now whatever happened to that "TO-US 12" shield that was in the same area?
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certainly a unique sign style.
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Happened across this Keys shield in Quincy.
Hey, recognize this one?
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why no - it certainly isn't the very first photo on the Michigan page of the shield gallery or anything.
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What on earth do the Rs in the US shields below US 12 and US 16 mean?
Quote from: mightyace on June 22, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
What on earth do the Rs in the US shields below US 12 and US 16 mean?
To turn right
Here's a photo I took in DC in '05.
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That's at 15th St NW. I have a photo of that same sign (but from the opposite corner, and from my bike).
I should point out that a few of those "unisigns" along Constitution Ave have been replaced with "regular" US 50 shields...17th St NW comes to mind.
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The sign on the left is older than the others, but has since been replaced.
Then there's this one from Louisiana
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It's still there! :evilgrin:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FP7030149.jpg&hash=7388b51b028a14f07bf4b71831d2404eee541e33)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3552%2F3377831436_df3a24f9c6.jpg&hash=6a2604c8e8834c7fdf3432f0093bd44e9f985412)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FIM006612.jpg&hash=0fc5c6d827f9781ac299c3bdedc457bfd5d051d8)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FIM008992.jpg&hash=7cf14dc265742396099d718d2d7b89bcefa51cc8)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FIM009149.jpg&hash=5303d901eb4568f15ff96d7b80c34a4e1de92cd0)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F199%2F494316389_a104be244c_b.jpg&hash=ddc5322d571cb10b7ceffc7252f64483e6881f92)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3576%2F3691127994_6fd93e74bd_b.jpg&hash=5428df169ae3cf967b97d4c84b657e5abe5600d7)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2079%2F3672874875_ae4b28846a.jpg&hash=74aca07387bcab48a7b7a0aac4c7c6e444268089)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3027%2F2982375059_d7eaa155c0_o.jpg&hash=f852915ff2c93b776602c7b6bf0b0234427308cd)
Sorry for the quality: it's an old Polaroid.
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What is (or was) a dim out zone?
Quote from: US71 on July 17, 2009, 08:54:23 AM
What is (or was) a dim out zone?
Maybe a dense fog area?
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Quote from: US71 on July 17, 2009, 08:54:23 AM
What is (or was) a dim out zone?
If that photo is from WWII, it could be an area near the coast where you're supposed to dim your headlights for security reasons. (i.e. So that you wouldn't be seen by a Japanese sub or airplane.)
Quote from: mightyace on July 17, 2009, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 17, 2009, 08:54:23 AM
What is (or was) a dim out zone?
If that photo is from WWII, it could be an area near the coast where you're supposed to dim your headlights for security reasons. (i.e. So that you wouldn't be seen by a Japanese sub or airplane.)
Probably. Fort Stephens just north of this location was actually shelled by a Japanese sub during WWII. This photo is from just south of Seaside OR and you can stay inland by taking OR 2 (now US 26) and OR 53 (together these make up the old alignment of US 101 between Seaside and Nehalem).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3046%2F2724572175_be5d541bb7.jpg&hash=560c5730f0bb3af369b5c611afd7d875303d73f3)
I took a better picture of my US 277 sign
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_WYYeXvkUoUE%2FSlEw1vReNKI%2FAAAAAAAABpU%2FAH7Ro9uOp4w%2Fs800%2F014.JPG&hash=43653125858d56a7be7ce59449bd638c77d45417)
(https://www.playle.com/pictures/RHEAV10673.jpg)
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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2015%2F2259186981_ca07a2cdb4.jpg&hash=03040aaf63a66952e585ce7694484149c07ac82f)
Not sure of the age on this one, but it's no longer there.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftrianglesigns.org%2Fpictures%2Fhighways%2Fold_us64.jpg&hash=546fcb4dae6fb2aabaefae14968778cbb4b3dd0c)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2163%2F2476808762_a445b00507_o.jpg&hash=57f2b6e884b67ec6ba5aa5589ebef8ea5860fa3d)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastroads.com%2Falabama999%2Fkansas_st_at_sutherland_dr_old_yield_sign_cu.jpg&hash=7604df63337a7de385abc5da3bbae25539d2700c)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3344%2F3219739737_7b26c041d4.jpg&hash=6bc4ff5da75a457e4f0240a30a0eabcca60a6e0f)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_k-zvXr5nd3o%2FRahJ0S9GMFI%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2Fe5zk_guH2Z4%2Fs320%2Fsigns%2Bon%2Bsquare.jpg&hash=235968ea0e37f6cd4902f4c6b0b3b9ed4f2ae6d4)
where on earth do you find all these old sign photos??
Yeah, really!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lincolnhighwayoh.com%2Fimages%2Froute5.jpg&hash=00fd818df92c51dc7b714f95fbd15e1089cb9c88)
From www.lincolnhighwayoh.com (http://www.lincolnhighwayoh.com)
I used to have a site bookmarked with all sorts of old Ohio signs, but can't find it.
I just took this one on Friday...
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now that is a find right there!
can we have it for the shield gallery? the only MI I-275 shield we have is hanging on someone's wall
Why, yes you can!
Wish I knew of that one two weeks ago!
Someone earlier in this thread asked about I-85 shields with "Virginia" on them...
There was still at least 1 up in 2007 in Petersburg. I do not remember exactly which intersection this was...
Mapmikey
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Foldsigns%2Fold85-95sign.jpg&hash=ff618da4cc7dae6906a7c01500d038e6521578e6)
nice find! can we yank the 85/95 for the shield gallery? the only VA I-85 shield photo we have was taken in 1986.
you have my permission to use any photo I have taken and published on the web, credited to me or the Virginia hwys Project...
Mapmikey
These were in the Fort Drum Service Plaza.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2Fjbu1271.jpg&hash=500220e4f0cb0c866bba6f5e819c24f6e058d069)
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Don't know if they are still there, but there are some old black and white photos hanging up in Concord Mall in Delaware that show the rural U.S. 202. One of the photos has a Delaware US 202 cutout in it.
I love the signals in that 1st Florida pic!
Here's something I found in Miles City, MT a few years back:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS212MilesCity7.jpg%3Ft%3D1249249804&hash=410da118dd4683adffd39360f5cb314624f34d9b)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS212MilesCity8.jpg%3Ft%3D1249249873&hash=2c8597220873dc87167a748951dfe813103846f2)
still there as of December, 2007.
quite hard to steal!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2Fcostoula030.jpg&hash=36008edbe6ac0a6755645129dd4a2b324f05bbf7)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2Fcostoula029.jpg&hash=430830370a97f0968392b41a5acb7e5c3f8c1cda)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FIM004297.jpg&hash=e6f8cf8cac288ac4f4f63bc441f61673c7d37b61)
I definitely remember that Sanford sign from about Dec 2006. No idea if it's still there.
At that time, there also was a button copy sign on I-95 NB in West Palm Beach showing the distances to the nearest 3 exits. One of them was Hypoluxo Blvd and I don't remember the other two. Dunno if that sign is there or not either.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 03, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
I definitely remember that Sanford sign from about Dec 2006. No idea if it's still there.
At that time, there also was a button copy sign on I-95 NB in West Palm Beach showing the distances to the nearest 3 exits. One of them was Hypoluxo Blvd and I don't remember the other two. Dunno if that sign is there or not either.
The Sanford sign was taken on 9/3/07.
There was/is a lot down there. The Congress Avenue interchange had some, but AlpsRoads said he found a lot still intact down there. That sign could be one of them.
Quote from: florida on August 03, 2009, 03:09:56 PM
The Sanford sign was taken on 9/3/07.
That Sanford sign reminded me of this sign on CA 62 near Parker Dam:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.westcoastroads.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fimages062%2Fca-062_eb_earp_02.jpg&hash=aa7e2166a3b18ec6a30b2504d0721d3f1a072b51)
Quote from: florida on August 03, 2009, 03:09:56 PM
There was/is a lot down there. The Congress Avenue interchange had some, but AlpsRoads said he found a lot still intact down there. That sign could be one of them.
Those Davis Island button copy signs in Tampa were replaced in mid-2007.
that has to be the most destinations on any green sign out there. 14 of them!
kinda reminds me of this blue guide sign in Iceland. It has 19 destinations, including the three control cities. There is, appropriately, a spot to pull over and carefully study the sign before proceeding!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artistjake.com%2Flj%2Fw58891.jpg&hash=d5fcf052757dbfb431aadc15dbc5350a383ac1ee)
I was browsing the Library of Virginia's photo collection on Flickr and found some really neat Richmond area stuff shot in the 1950s and 60s. All of these are from the Adolph B. Rice Studio, and I obviously did not take them seeing as I had not been born yet when they were taken. :p
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3315%2F3595197339_b5d171b158_o.jpg&hash=13b02929ef2a127b80bb272441768ce7519785d3) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/3595197339/in/set-72157607704129043/)
VA 33, VA 5, and US 60 cutouts at 25th and Broad in 1960. US 250 was not yet out here (it's not quite out here today), and VA 5 ended here until 2004 when US 60 was removed from Broad and put on Main.
US 1/301, taken in 1955. You can see two cutouts on the right. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/2898497359/in/set-72157607704129043/)
VA 161 approaching Broad Street (US 33/250 even in 1954). (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/2898497073/in/set-72157607704129043/)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3051%2F2898494105_2d5d9b7150.jpg&hash=0c6d67a31793a29e15f15ec0af7cb2f3981c40d3) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/2898494105/in/set-72157607704129043/)
Embossed street signs in 1960 (all such signs are long gone, I've seen photos from just 10 years later that have the precursors to modern green signage).
Not a sign, but I-95 being built in 1957. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/2898491881/in/set-72157607704129043/)
...and 1958. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/2899336022/in/set-72157607704129043/)
US 1/301 cutouts in 1954 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/2899333850/in/set-72157607704129043/)
I wish there were a larger version of this photo, but you can seecutouts and white-bordered trailblazer signs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/3595196081/sizes/o/in/set-72157607704129043/). This is 11th and Broad in 1960. This is back when US 60 was on 11th Street, part of a very complicated routing described on the Virginia Highways Project (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/us060.htm).
Borderless VA 147 cutout on Cary Street in 1960 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_virginia/3595197297/in/set-72157607704129043/)
there's gotta be some higher-resolution versions of those photos available. they're taken on 4x5 film; that's the equivalent of about 500 megapixels!
Well, the only place that's likely to have them is the Library of Virginia, and I doubt they'd provide them. :\
Then again, I've never been there, and perhaps they might let me take photos (yes, take photos of photos), since there are no known copyright restrictions - the studio no longer exists, as its last owner passed away in 1974 (which is why the Library of Virginia has the photos, they were donated).
anything before 1963 is in the public domain unless the copyright was explicitly renewed.
wonder if this guy did...
also, I've had good luck with photos of photos ...
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=AL19310431t200430.jpg (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=AL19310431t200430.jpg)
that, for example, is not the most stupendous thing in the world but it is a photo of a 5x8 print. there isn't *much* resolution beyond that in my photo but it surely does the job.
Fairly sure that's the case since the photos were taken before 1964, and not published until recently. The Library isn't asserting any copyright claims over the photos in the collection. Of course, the prints might not be very large...at any rate, I won't know until I go, and I'll probably go tomorrow.
EDIT: Apparently, they have strict requirements for how photos or scans of their collection materials can be used. Photos of photos cannot be used on the Internet at all; scans are limited to 72 DPI resolution or less.
Here's a good read, an account of 1940 US 30 across Oregon, with several historic highway photos:
http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/exhibits/across/overview.html (http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/exhibits/across/overview.html)
ODOT also has an archive of historical highway photos here:
http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/state/odotphotos/highway/index.htm (http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/state/odotphotos/highway/index.htm)
now that's an odd requirement - what do they care how exactly their photos were re-captured?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 05, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
now that's an odd requirement - what do they care how exactly their photos were re-captured?
No idea. I'll find out tomorrow.
Great find on the picture galleries at Virginia state Library...
Notable in the first photo you put on here is that VA 5 did not end at US 60-VA 33. Apparently when US 250 replaced VA 5 west of Richmond, they let VA 5 be signed on Broad St to the endpoint of US 250, which would be a useless duplex with VA 33 at that time). I don't recall any CTB references removing VA 5 from Broad St but from personal experience it was by 1981.
Other pictures with notable items:
#59 has a US 33-250 cutout assembly
#146 has a Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike shield
#305 has a US 360 cutout
#326 shows an interchange with the RPT posted TURNPIKE south with no shields of any kind.
Mapmikey
Thanks for the correction on VA 5. I forgot it actually existed west of Richmond for quite a while. :p
I still haven't made it to the library yet. I might go on Wednesday, but as Wednesday is my birthday, I doubt I'll make it. :p
"Don't Never Ever Enter," Mississippi State U., sometime around 1970: http://digital.library.msstate.edu/collections/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/uac&CISOPTR=3051&CISOBOX=1&REC=11 (http://digital.library.msstate.edu/collections/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/uac&CISOPTR=3051&CISOBOX=1&REC=11)
Sign pointing the way to Columbus, 1969: http://digital.library.msstate.edu/collections/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/uac&CISOPTR=3055&CISOBOX=1&REC=10 (http://digital.library.msstate.edu/collections/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/uac&CISOPTR=3055&CISOBOX=1&REC=10)
A couple from Arkansas:
http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/1122_1r.jpg (http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/1122_1r.jpg)
http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/1703_1r.jpg (http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/1703_1r.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdlxs.lib.wayne.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fgetimage-idx%3Fviewid%3D12119%3Bcc%3Dvmc%3Bentryid%3Dx-12119%3Bquality%3D1%3Bview%3Dimage&hash=750aae402df951245f8a7b0bfca4d1dc037334e8)
I also meant to point out that in the linked photo with white border signs and cutouts, the cutout next to the US 60 cutout (US 33?) is an older style with the state name still in it. This may also be photographic proof of where the transition from VA 33 to US 33 was at that time.
Here is a photo from 1942 near Goose Creek, SC where I grew up...
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More historic photos used to be on SCDOT's website 10 years ago (mostly not signs, though) still accessible through web.archive.org http://web.archive.org/web/19980625054841/www.dot.state.sc.us/RoadDesign/frhistory.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/19980625054841/www.dot.state.sc.us/RoadDesign/frhistory.htm)
Mapmikey
I know this for signs, but since I just found it, and this tread wants old photos, here's a photo of I-696 in 1988 before the Lodge to I-75 portion was opened.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fd%2Fd8%2FI696-1988.JPG&hash=1bd26f95bfd9ff026fe482c334de99499d8c14cd)
I just found these today in Lockland (just North of Cincinnati). I understand Ohio lettered interstate shields are tough to find, and though I haven't really looked much, these are the only ones I've ever seen. Lockland has lots of old stuff like this, including vintage traffic signals and buried streetcar tracks. It also helps that the western leg of I-75 through Lockland was originally constructed in the mid 1940's(!) It's just the southbound lanes now, but the old retaining walls and fences, including a very tight exit are all original. So it's no wonder there's a bit of a time warp here. The arrow in the first picture is painted over something else, probably a "North" sign. Any ideas how old that AAA sign is?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2FDSC_6907.jpg&hash=19f75d4dd0c44d521eb0e84bd8576757f4f466c8)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2FDSC_6908.jpg&hash=047c2adcbb8421d8f40a8bb6e98a44d187704814)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2FDSC_6911.jpg&hash=e1ee370f8199362734a030bab853ca970e7005d7)
Not sure on how old the sign is, but that style of the AAA logo is from at least the 1920's.
A picture I found of a AAA worker affixing a mileage sign along the Lincoln Highway outside of Stockton, CA...
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southwest/AAA_road_sign_truck.jpg)
the glass reflectors are about 1929-1942 vintage, though some states used them well into the 60s
This entire thread makes me weep.
Maybe if we got angry and headed to AASHTO's headquarters with pitchforks and rudeness, we could get them to stop being conformists? :-D :rolleyes:
How about if we went to their headquarters armed with 16x16 embossed steel US shields and drop the ends on their bare tootsies?
Quote from: ctsignguy on August 14, 2009, 09:23:26 PM
How about if we went to their headquarters armed with 16x16 embossed steel US shields and drop the ends on their bare tootsies?
Can we hold up signs stating, "Death to AASHTO"?
"DEATH....or a Reasonable Alternative!"
Here's an old photo of an overhead gantry on the Lodge Freeway
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Well, with PennDOT renumbering I-376 and I-279, this is technically an old assembly :sombrero:
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http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/1473_20r.jpg (http://photos.ark-ives.com/deane/1473_20r.jpg)
I also like the STOP sign hiding in the corner ;)
These are from http://www.floridamemory.com/PhotographicCollection/ (http://www.floridamemory.com/PhotographicCollection/)
The first generation Secondary Route shields (as mentioned in the Florida thread). There were pictures dated from 1953-1960 showing these (don't know how accurate the dates are, but they should be pretty accurate).
S-250
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S-179A
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US 41 at SR 683
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US 1 in St. Augustine (at Carrera St.)
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This one looks familiar
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SR 44 in DeLand
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Another version of SR 44
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Florida I-4
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Button Copy on I-4 (now exit 25)
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I-4 in Tampa
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How about a colored US 27/US 319 duplex? (1960)
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Green Cove Springs
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I found a couple old signs out in the wild today
http://www.davidjcorcoran.com/IMG_3179.JPG (http://www.davidjcorcoran.com/IMG_3179.JPG)
That one's at the northern terminus of WYO 343 at WYO 345 north of Dayton- looks to be an original I-90 trailblazer
http://www.davidjcorcoran.com/IMG_3358.JPG (http://www.davidjcorcoran.com/IMG_3358.JPG)
I pulled onto a side road off WYO 290 to take a piss and when I came back I found that junction sign. It looks to be pretty old, but there are no legible markings on the back of it. I'm not sure what era that highway sign is from or if it was ever a standard sign
WTF is up with that state route marker? It definitely was not a standard. Wyoming state shields have had identifying stickers for many years... you can see the "00" for the I-90 shield. That 90 may have been made by a Montana contractor - that state is known for its peeling legends.
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=MT19790902t100900.jpg&search=90 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=MT19790902t100900.jpg&search=90)
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I had NO idea that eBay was around back then :-D
Quote from: wytout on September 06, 2009, 12:14:17 PM
I had NO idea that eBay was around back then :-D
their main server was the size of a city.
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wow, that 10-12 is a classic!
Quotetheir main server was the size of a city.
Hence the sign! :sombrero:
Look at the old small-font Interstate signs there in Detroit. That's a nice pic hellfighter!
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The NC Postcard Project has a number of postcards that show route shields...I will post links later but here is one that shows the brief US 401 before US 15A came along in 1935 was indeed posted in the field:
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1647&CISOBOX=1&REC=2 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1647&CISOBOX=1&REC=2)
In the viewer, zooming in 1 time improves the resolution...
Other shields I have found include NC 70, old NC 47, NC 284...
Mapmikey
found this one in an Ad in a 1953 Life Magazine I was thumbing through last weekend. Technically it wasn't an old sign on the internet at the time, but since I uploaded the picture to my server i guess it qualifies as an old sign on the internet now :)
From OH, 1953...
Where Concurrent US 127/OH 128 junctions w/ concurrent OH 129/OH 177 in Hamilton.
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Hellfighter:
That pic of the I-75/Square Lake Road gantry is unusual in that, I have NEVER seen Michigan use any kind of lighting for their overhead BGS. That is a rarity indeed!
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Here is the entire list of links for North Carolina shields in old postcards that I found earlier this week:
(Don't forget you can zoom in with one click and the image gets better)
NC 4 cutout in Littleton
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2837&CISOBOX=1&REC=3 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2837&CISOBOX=1&REC=3)
US 15-501, NC 54, NC 86 Chapel Hill. 50s
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2491&CISOBOX=1&REC=1 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2491&CISOBOX=1&REC=1)
US 19-64-129 shields in Murphy
1930s: http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2699&CISOBOX=1&REC=11 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2699&CISOBOX=1&REC=11)
1930s: http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1634&CISOBOX=1&REC=15 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1634&CISOBOX=1&REC=15)
1950s: http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1499&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1499&CISOBOX=1&REC=17)
NC 24 in Jacksonville at its original split with US 17 (mid-1930s)
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=3337&CISOBOX=1&REC=13 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=3337&CISOBOX=1&REC=13)
US 25 in Hendersonville, 1959
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2975&CISOBOX=1&REC=10 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2975&CISOBOX=1&REC=10)
NC 47 in Roanoke Rapids, early 1960s (zoom in under Leggetts)
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2654&CISOBOX=1&REC=4 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2654&CISOBOX=1&REC=4)
US 64-276 in Brevard (fuzzy)
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1953&CISOBOX=1&REC=14 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1953&CISOBOX=1&REC=14)
NC 66-150 in Kernersville
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1606&CISOBOX=1&REC=6 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=1606&CISOBOX=1&REC=6)
NC 70 and NC 71 in Fairmont, early 1930s
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2877&CISOBOX=1&REC=5 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2877&CISOBOX=1&REC=5)
US 74, NC 20, NC 25(?) in Monroe, early 1930s
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2523&CISOBOX=1&REC=10 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2523&CISOBOX=1&REC=10)
US 264 in Washington
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2497&CISOBOX=1&REC=17 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2497&CISOBOX=1&REC=17)
NC 284 in Waynesville (far right in pic)
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2698&CISOBOX=1&REC=11 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2698&CISOBOX=1&REC=11)
US 301-421/NC 55 in Dunn, 1930s
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2546&CISOBOX=1&REC=3 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2546&CISOBOX=1&REC=3)
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2555&CISOBOX=1&REC=5 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2555&CISOBOX=1&REC=5)
US 321 in Blowing Rock, 1940s?
http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2849&CISOBOX=1&REC=12 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/nc_post&CISOPTR=2849&CISOBOX=1&REC=12)
Mapmikey
Hellfighter
Please
PLEASE
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I'm sorry, the site said it was 780x540. My Mistake. :-(
And what if the site told you to jump off a cliff? Would you do it? huh huh would ya would ya huh?
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This (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/FXXV2otJr_p1zwdQVP4USw?feat=directlink) sign looks pretty old and faded.
BigMatt
Surprisingly, these are still in service in Wilmington, DE...
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522)
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 18, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Surprisingly, these are still in service in Wilmington, DE...
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522)
please don't encourage the highway department to take down old signs.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 18, 2009, 05:39:28 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 18, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Surprisingly, these are still in service in Wilmington, DE...
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522)
please don't encourage the highway department to take down old signs.
I apologize. I erased that.
Quoteplease don't encourage the highway department to take down old signs
If the signs are obsolete or faded, why not?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 18, 2009, 05:39:28 PM
please don't encourage the highway department to take down old signs.
Sometimes I get that concern when I post photos of old cutout-style state route markers in Hawaii, that I make it too easy for transportation departments or sign thieves to take them down. But while the old signs are gradually disappearing, many still remain (except on Kauai, where all the old signs were already gone by the time I started visiting Hawaii).
Maybe Hawaiians are a buncha slackers on removing or stealing old signs, but I suspect many mainlanders also find they have better things to do.
Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
If the signs are obsolete or faded, why not?
they are correctly referring to their intended routes, and are perfectly legible.
Quote from: oscar on October 18, 2009, 08:20:27 PM
Maybe Hawaiians are a buncha slackers on removing or stealing old signs, but I suspect many mainlanders also find they have better things to do.
it is quite the logistical feat - tough to just drive over in your pickup truck full of tools, snag the sign, and drive home.
furthermore, Hawaii stopped using the cutouts pretty late in the came compared to other places. As far as I know, they were the last state to abandon the embossed cutouts, sometime around 1968.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 18, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Surprisingly, these are still in service in Wilmington, DE...
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039031651997458)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039046348218050)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/DelawareTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5394039063650619522)
Those two Interstate 95 shields are from the original construction of the freeway. 1979 spec'd shields were only used briefly in the state. I remember a southbound shield posted ahead of Christiana Marsh at the merge of the c/d roadway from Delaware 141 and a handful of shields on the Mall Road encircling Christiana Mall. All of those shields were removed by the end of 1994. There are just six state-named shields left for Interstate 95...
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 18, 2009, 08:42:14 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
If the signs are obsolete or faded, why not?
they are correctly referring to their intended routes, and are perfectly legible.
But they most certainly do not meet modern reflectivity standards.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 19, 2009, 12:27:57 PM
But they most certainly do not meet modern reflectivity standards.
they still work. they don't work as well as some other signs, but that's like saying "let's destroy all '89 Honda Civics because they're not as good as '05 ones"
Yes, old signs are great...but I don't get the fuss so many in this hobby has about signs...as a friend of mine says...your hobby really should be called signgeeking vs. roadgeeking. I have to admit I agree.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
Yes, old signs are great...but I don't get the fuss so many in this hobby has about signs...as a friend of mine says...your hobby really should be called signgeeking vs. roadgeeking. I have to admit I agree.
meanwhile I don't get the fuss about "a new alignment of 540 just opened! gotta go drive it!"
Jake,
I don't either..since I don't get fussed up about it. :-p There's nothing wrong with liking signs - as much as yourself or others do - or road construction etc.
I just find it interesting how much of the hobby is based on signs vs. travel.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 19, 2009, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
Yes, old signs are great...but I don't get the fuss so many in this hobby has about signs...as a friend of mine says...your hobby really should be called signgeeking vs. roadgeeking. I have to admit I agree.
meanwhile I don't get the fuss about "a new alignment of 540 just opened! gotta go drive it!"
To each his/her own, I guess.
For me, I'm interested in both the signs and the alignment things mentioned above, but I don't get the traffic signals. I often look at the posts there any say to myself. "What's the fuss, those two signal types look the same to me."
Quote from: mightyace on October 19, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
For me, I'm interested in both the signs and the alignment things mentioned above, but I don't get the traffic signals. I often look at the posts there any say to myself. "What's the fuss, those two signal types look the same to me."
I'm not as big into the signals (mainly because I've seen too many red ones in my life!) but they are still better than new infrastructure.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 06:39:49 PM
I just find it interesting how much of the hobby is based on signs vs. travel.
I'd like to think I'm pretty heavily into travel ;)
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 06:39:49 PM
Jake,
I don't either..since I don't get fussed up about it. :-p There's nothing wrong with liking signs - as much as yourself or others do - or road construction etc.
I just find it interesting how much of the hobby is based on signs vs. travel.
I'm probably the quintessential "sign geek" but I honestly enjoy the roads, the scenery, the bridges, all of it.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 20, 2009, 09:29:22 AM
I'm probably the quintessential "sign geek" but I honestly enjoy the roads, the scenery, the bridges, all of it.
I like to travel and see new places. Along the way, I take photos, but often just exploring new places is good, too (like my trip along US 71 in Iowa last month) ;)
I am mainly into signs and roads. My family always traveled up north, and I just loved that feeling when your in the car and you pass by interesting signs and scenes. As a baby, my mom would turn to the street on the home stretch to get home, and I would start whining because I wanted to stay out on the trip longer!
Quote from: mightyace on October 19, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 19, 2009, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
Yes, old signs are great...but I don't get the fuss so many in this hobby has about signs...as a friend of mine says...your hobby really should be called signgeeking vs. roadgeeking. I have to admit I agree.
meanwhile I don't get the fuss about "a new alignment of 540 just opened! gotta go drive it!"
To each his/her own, I guess.
For me, I'm interested in both the signs and the alignment things mentioned above, but I don't get the traffic signals. I often look at the posts there any say to myself. "What's the fuss, those two signal types look the same to me."
I like traffic signals because they fascinate me. Everywhere I'd go, I would see different styles, looks, colors, etc. It was one of the main highway elements I would pay attention to out on a trip. Just an obsession with me. Over the years, I learned all about the brands, what is improved on visibility of them, and stuff like that. I don't get mad if you don't understand signals, you are road/signgeeks, not signal fans.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
Yes, old signs are great...but I don't get the fuss so many in this hobby has about signs...as a friend of mine says...your hobby really should be called signgeeking vs. roadgeeking. I have to admit I agree.
I don't understand it either. Most roads I drive on do have signs, and some roads don't have signs during some stretches. Does that mean I'm roadgeeking at that moment, and when the signs reappear, I'm signgeeking? Don't even bring in traffic lights to the equation..my head hurts already.
The road is an open book, the signs are the words telling the story. There are maybe two, three, more(?) on here who have lived during the Golden Age of Roads, before metal guardrails became our best friends on a long road trip, before monotonous national standards came into effect, before cities spent copious amounts of money to "beautify" streets with fake bricks and street lamps, every place had it different. And when the different was made the same, people around my age (younger and older) did not get to experience that. So finding old signs is always a treat when you're clinching a highway, be it the current or old alignment. These don't stick around for long today. Bridges, signals, signs, asphalt, concrete, 1920s bricks, it's all roadgeeking. They're all aspects of the road.
What we're missing are
treegeeks, and wildflowergeeks.
Quote from: florida on October 22, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
What we're missing are treegeeks, and wildflowergeeks.
I'm not a big tree geek, but I am somewhat of one. When I lived in Fayetteville, the city tore down a grove of 100 year old trees to build a strip mall with Target & Kohl's. I never tied myself to a tree, but I was rooting for those who did.
Quote from: US71 on October 22, 2009, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: florida on October 22, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
What we're missing are treegeeks, and wildflowergeeks.
I'm not a big tree geek, but I am somewhat of one. When I lived in Fayetteville, the city tore down a grove of 100 year old trees to build a strip mall with Target & Kohl's. I never tied myself to a tree, but I was rooting for those who did.
That's a shame. They couldn't build the Target & Kohl's in...say...a flood plain? No trees there!
Quote from: florida on October 22, 2009, 10:05:00 PM
That's a shame. They couldn't build the Target & Kohl's in...say...a flood plain? No trees there!
No, the city Slumlord builds apartments in the flood plain... cheap land. Target or Kohl's would have to spend too much money putting in adequate drainage.
Quote from: florida on October 22, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
Yes, old signs are great...but I don't get the fuss so many in this hobby has about signs...as a friend of mine says...your hobby really should be called signgeeking vs. roadgeeking. I have to admit I agree.
I don't understand it either. Most roads I drive on do have signs, and some roads don't have signs during some stretches. Does that mean I'm roadgeeking at that moment, and when the signs reappear, I'm signgeeking? Don't even bring in traffic lights to the equation..my head hurts already.
The road is an open book, the signs are the words telling the story. There are maybe two, three, more(?) on here who have lived during the Golden Age of Roads, before metal guardrails became our best friends on a long road trip, before monotonous national standards came into effect, before cities spent copious amounts of money to "beautify" streets with fake bricks and street lamps, every place had it different. And when the different was made the same, people around my age (younger and older) did not get to experience that. So finding old signs is always a treat when you're clinching a highway, be it the current or old alignment. These don't stick around for long today. Bridges, signals, signs, asphalt, concrete, 1920s bricks, it's all roadgeeking. They're all aspects of the road.
Yeah, i was a kid during the days of the Interstates being constructed...so i remember all the half-finished bridges, the last uses of the smudge pots, detours and all the other stuff that goes with massive road construction projects....back before decade-long delays for environmental impact statements, political considerations, NIMBY-ism, et al.
and i have to say, for me, the sounds of trucks on the highway at night are a siren call to go travel the open road....
*G* and tomorrow, i get to scratch that itch!
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 19, 2009, 06:39:49 PM
I just find it interesting how much of the hobby is based on signs vs. travel.
Well. The signs definitely add to the traveling for me. The road the scenery all very important, and to me the signs and what oddity I might find sweeten the deal for me. For me, as I travel from place to place I find that there are nuances in signage that make it as unique to each state or area as the landscape features, or road design features. Signs are everywhere and if you pay close enough attention, despite the widespread standardization, you can always find something different about the way one place does it over another.
Here is a somewhat older sign thats still surviving:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/LocalRoadRelatedShots#5399197850359300434 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/LocalRoadRelatedShots#5399197850359300434)
Quote from: PennDOTFan on November 01, 2009, 04:26:05 PM
Here is a somewhat older sign thats still surviving:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/LocalRoadRelatedShots#5399197850359300434 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/LocalRoadRelatedShots#5399197850359300434)
Thanks for the picture, I passed under that sign or a carbon-copy predecessor of it many times backs in the early 70s going to my grandfather's house in New Castle, DE. Boy, does that bring back memories!
Quote from: mightyace on November 01, 2009, 04:35:32 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on November 01, 2009, 04:26:05 PM
Here is a somewhat older sign thats still surviving:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/LocalRoadRelatedShots#5399197850359300434 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/LocalRoadRelatedShots#5399197850359300434)
Thanks for the picture, I passed under that sign or a carbon-copy predecessor of it many times backs in the early 70s going to my grandfather's house in New Castle, DE. Boy, does that bring back memories!
You're welcome! I never really thought much of it, until I heard it was somewhat vintage. I actually took this photo a few hours ago, with my new camera that I was testing out. Great results!
and it's worth a point in the PA Signs Scavenger Hunt on flickr.
Yea I saw that. I never really knew it was that vintage. Any ideas on the date of the sign?
Old Mississippi Sign...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2749%2F4050776047_a7a35590c2_b.jpg&hash=f3b883836744d79c61d4c8b3d4e1b31853fd8c12)
Quote from: PennDOTFan on November 01, 2009, 04:42:43 PM
You're welcome! I never really thought much of it, until I heard it was somewhat vintage. I actually took this photo a few hours ago, with my new camera that I was testing out. Great results!
Here's another one. On PA 652.
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We passed under this during the upper Delaware River meet this past winter.
Quote from: jjakucyk on August 12, 2009, 04:39:37 PM
I just found these today in Lockland (just North of Cincinnati). I understand Ohio lettered interstate shields are tough to find, and though I haven't really looked much, these are the only ones I've ever seen. Lockland has lots of old stuff like this, including vintage traffic signals and buried streetcar tracks. It also helps that the western leg of I-75 through Lockland was originally constructed in the mid 1940's(!) It's just the southbound lanes now, but the old retaining walls and fences, including a very tight exit are all original. So it's no wonder there's a bit of a time warp here. The arrow in the first picture is painted over something else, probably a "North" sign. Any ideas how old that AAA sign is?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2FDSC_6907.jpg&hash=19f75d4dd0c44d521eb0e84bd8576757f4f466c8)
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Here's two more from the same area.
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Documented by others before me as well, here's the two US-50 shields and the US-27 shield.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2FDSC_4386.jpg&hash=8c2e7cb0dfe02e5766396ceeb9ed244a08c2a26b)
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hbelkins,
I see! How many do you think there could be left in the state? Or are these the only two left?
Also jjakucyk, niiiiiice shots!
"Bridge 1/1 mi ahead" :crazy:
Assuming it's supposed to be 1/4?
I think it's supposed to be 1/10 mile. That's how far it measures out on Google Maps anyway. And it's an awesome bridge too, a concrete rainbow/pony arch built in 1909, one of the first one ever built.
Link 1 (http://bridgehunter.com/oh/hamilton/benson/)
Link 2 (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=pphhphoto&fileName=oh/oh1400/oh1481/photos/browse.db&action=browse&recNum=0&title2=Benson%20Street%20Concrete%20Bowstring%20Bridge,%20Spanning%20Mill%20Creek%20at%20Benson%20Street,%20Lockland,%20Hamilton%20County,%20OH&displayType=1&itemLink=r?pp/PPALL:@field(NUMBER+@(oh1481)))
Link 3 (http://maps.google.com/maps?gl=us&om=0&ie=UTF8&ll=39.224054,-84.449045&spn=0,359.995118&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.224051,-84.449152&panoid=LH7hFE3oO2PITi8cRKZs2A&cbp=12,82.38,,0,0.55)
This is also surviving near me:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4086386795/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4086386795/in/photostream/)
Also, anyone know why there is a big blank space on the right sign?
Quote from: PennDOTFan on November 08, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
This is also surviving near me:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4086386795/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4086386795/in/photostream/)
Also, anyone know why there is a big blank space on the right sign?
I'm looking at the 1989 Pennsylvania Official Transportation Map and, at the time, I-476 ended south of this point while today it passes just to the west of here and, even today, it roughly parallels I-476. So, I'm guess that it was either a "TO I-76" or "TO I-476" sign.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.odotonline.org%2FphotoArchive%2FPhotoArchiveImages%2FMedium%2Fi70sign.jpg&hash=9a127a5dcdb9a48c5a78d214caa5db93761d224e) (http://www.odotonline.org/photoArchive/PhotoArchiveImages/Large/i70sign.jpg)
Found on Ohio Interstate History Timeline (http://www2.dot.state.oh.us/interstate50/OhioInterstateHistoryTimeline.htm)
Quote from: AARoads on November 16, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.odotonline.org%2FphotoArchive%2FPhotoArchiveImages%2FMedium%2Fi70sign.jpg&hash=9a127a5dcdb9a48c5a78d214caa5db93761d224e) (http://www.odotonline.org/photoArchive/PhotoArchiveImages/Large/i70sign.jpg)
Found on Ohio Interstate History Timeline (http://www2.dot.state.oh.us/interstate50/OhioInterstateHistoryTimeline.htm)
Is that Joehler taking it down? :pan:
^^ :-D More like his father.
Also some more older signs which I shot (correct me if I made any errors)...
Older all text PDH (Penn. Dept. of Highways) "DO NOT ENTER" sign:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4129971504/
Old embossed "RIGHT TURN KEEP MOVING" sign:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4123544990/in/photostream/
Old PennDOT chevron:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4122773479/in/photostream/
Old PA measured mile sign:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4123544034/in/photostream/
Took these shots today...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4137030856/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4136266505/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4136552044/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4135790093/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4136550246/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4136548906/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/4135786683/in/photostream/
Two older regulatory signs in Chickasaw, AL:
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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastroads.com%2Falabama999%2Fthompson_bl_wb_at_commanche_st.jpg&hash=5e5527962ab37355bcb73003c332bd3007d51bc1)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2019%2F2281619703_5177908d6a.jpg&hash=c61e2bab8c45fcae40f87ba8b3a90f6fbe051f81)
Blue Island, IL
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Urbanette, AR
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Jay, OK
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Higginsville, MO
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2343%2F2284442569_d26b95746e.jpg&hash=e0cdf22752d58990b90defa12b98527fc72c0080)
Olive Branch, MS
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Near Oregon, MO
Here's two old signs I found near the interchange of US-50 Columbia Parkway and Beechmont Avenue. The first one is on Church Place, which is sort of an offramp from Columbia/Beechmont to Eastern Avenue and northbound Linwood Road OH-561. I have no clue what the old rusted out sign below the faded Truck Route might be.
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The second sign is the fun one. It's on a light pole facing westbound Columbia Parkway just south of the interchange. It looks like an honest to God inverted sign, rather than some bizarre fading situation. I don't know how it managed to survive this long, especially with those newer signs above it. The light pole itself was installed in 1962/63 when the highway was extended and this whole interchange was completely reconfigured. Could it date from then, or possibly be even older? The concrete retaining wall in the foreground dates from the original 1938 construction of the parkway, but the jersey barriers on the median and opposite side of the road are likely from the early '60s reconstruction.
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I do believe that that sign is a Bizarre Fading Situation. Ohio used the black scotchlite a lot in the 1960s (black under normal light, but retroreflective white) and black scotchlite does fade to that color.
Somewhere I have a photo of a US-27 or 127 shield that looks similar... will have to dig it up!
Quote from: jjakucyk on January 13, 2010, 05:47:25 PM
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That graffiti is incorrect! This is not the right place for a "561 ENDS" sign!
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 13, 2010, 08:15:31 PM
I do believe that that sign is a Bizarre Fading Situation. Ohio used the black scotchlite a lot in the 1960s (black under normal light, but retroreflective white) and black scotchlite does fade to that color.
Somewhere I have a photo of a US-27 or 127 shield that looks similar... will have to dig it up!
Eh, I'm not buying it, the colors are too perfectly inverted.
I saw another of those rusty unintelligible signs at another location while bike riding today, it was an arrow.
here's another with the exact same effect. White with black legend, just faded funny because that is what black scotchlite does.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MA/MA19490161i1.jpg)
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 11, 2009, 10:52:35 AM
Here is a photo from 1942 near Goose Creek, SC where I grew up...
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More historic photos used to be on SCDOT's website 10 years ago (mostly not signs, though) still accessible through web.archive.org http://web.archive.org/web/19980625054841/www.dot.state.sc.us/RoadDesign/frhistory.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/19980625054841/www.dot.state.sc.us/RoadDesign/frhistory.htm)
Mapmikey
Thanks so much for this link...I thoroughly enjoyed looking through this website...very interesting historical info for SC!
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2010, 04:21:25 PM
here's another with the exact same effect. White with black legend, just faded funny because that is what black scotchlite does.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MA/MA19490161i1.jpg)
I know where that shield is! Right near my grandparents house! Next time I'm up there I will definetely get a pic!
Quote from: PennDOTFan on January 14, 2010, 04:32:55 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2010, 04:21:25 PM
here's another with the exact same effect. White with black legend, just faded funny because that is what black scotchlite does.
I know where that shield is! Right near my grandparents house! Next time I'm up there I will definetely get a pic!
Wow, it's really done badly over the past year or two. Here's what I found back in 2006 or so:
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_30/e16c.jpg
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There used to be some old BGSes on the never opened part of the Korean Veterans Expressway in NYC from the 70s.
Anybody have any pics?
Quotehttps://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=207.100
What is the purpose of the red reflectors on the AAA sign? :hmmm:
Maybe to point out a AAA approved service? :hmmm:
Great out photos people, I especially enjoyed checking out the vintage autos! :clap:
Quote from: allniter89 on January 16, 2010, 10:52:23 PM
Quotehttps://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=207.100
What is the purpose of the red reflectors on the AAA sign? :hmmm:
Maybe to point out a AAA approved service? :hmmm:
Great out photos people, I especially enjoyed checking out the vintage autos! :clap:
I assume you're referring to this photo of mine?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2FDSC_6911.jpg&hash=e1ee370f8199362734a030bab853ca970e7005d7)
It's an "end of the road" sign, or in this case, it's facing the stem of a "T" intersection that I assume used to go straight through once upon a time. If it was installed today, I guess it would be one of these:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.trafficsignstore.com%2Fmerchant2%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2FOM-4buttons.jpg&hash=62e985709a0a28d134671065aff9e1f9d314753a)
Quote from: jjakucyk on January 13, 2010, 05:47:25 PM
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Dig that funky B-font! Cool!
More seriously, that shield dates from the late 60s-early 70s when ODOT put that little unobtrusive dot on its shields (O-dot...get it? someone's idea of slipping in a joke, i think)
Looking good for a 30-to-40-year old sign!
Some old signs I shot while on a trip to Cabela's in Hamburg, PA today...
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heh, I know exactly where that state-named 78 is. On old 22 not too far west of Allentown. I believe I took a photo of it a couple weeks ago, but at night.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 27, 2010, 02:41:51 PM
heh, I know exactly where that state-named 78 is. On old 22 not too far west of Allentown. I believe I took a photo of it a couple weeks ago, but at night.
That's it! You may use it for the gallery if you wish ;-)
I found these on Saturday:
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Must be old 33 ;)
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Must be old 33 ;)
Yes at the Inola semi-interchange.
I'm pretty sure in my cross-Texas travels a couple weeks ago I only saw three button copy signs, but they were swell and in Cleburne
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Then there was one more further down the 67 bypass for CR 1121
Is button copy all that rare? It's everywhere along the I-71 corridor here in Cincinnati. I assume most of it is from the early to mid 1970s when the highway was built, and it's all in fine shape. There's not much along I-75, which was built in the 50s and 60s, so most of those signs have been replaced. Is it more of a state by state thing as far as rarity goes?
Quote from: jjakucyk on March 03, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Is it more of a state by state thing as far as rarity goes?
Indeed. California, it's everywhere. Same with Ohio. Good luck finding any in Virginia because they have not used reflectorized text since the glass-cateye era. There is one sign on I-77 that is button copy, but it refers to exit 1 in WV and was put up by WV (who used button copy heavily).
I'm trying to think if there was any state that
never used discrete reflectors. Can't think of one offhand. Even Alaska used to have a pair of signs on highway 2 just north of Fairbanks.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 03, 2010, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: jjakucyk on March 03, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Is it more of a state by state thing as far as rarity goes?
Indeed. California, it's everywhere. Same with Ohio. Good luck finding any in Virginia because they have not used reflectorized text since the glass-cateye era. There is one sign on I-77 that is button copy, but it refers to exit 1 in WV and was put up by WV (who used button copy heavily).
I'm trying to think if there was any state that never used discrete reflectors. Can't think of one offhand. Even Alaska used to have a pair of signs on highway 2 just north of Fairbanks.
Alaska still does in fact have button copy, near Juneau on AK 7 (and I have a small photo thereof). Delaware is one state I've never heard of having button copy.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 03, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
Alaska still does in fact have button copy, near Juneau on AK 7 (and I have a small photo thereof). Delaware is one state I've never heard of having button copy.
not for a while now - I have seen an old embossed, cateyed, Delaware US 13 shield.
Quote from: jjakucyk on March 03, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Is button copy all that rare?
It's pretty close to dead in Arkansas since the new BGS's on I-40. Missouri has spotty coverage, but Oklahoma still has a bunch scattered around (lots in OKC).
Last one I saw in Texas was circa 2004 at Paris
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I intend to check Mississippi & Louisiana in the next couple weeks.
Quote from: US71 on March 03, 2010, 10:30:04 PM
Quote from: jjakucyk on March 03, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Is button copy all that rare?
It's pretty close to dead in Arkansas since the new BGS's on I-40. Missouri has spotty coverage, but Oklahoma still has a bunch scattered around (lots in OKC).
Last one I saw in Texas was circa 2004 at Paris
I intend to check Mississippi & Louisiana in the next couple weeks.
There are still some button copy signs hanging around in Texas. San Antonio had a bunch left somewhat recently for instance.
I have never seen button copy in either LA or MS, and if it was used for a guide sign, it was probably an extremely rare instance.
Louisiana used to have one random stray on US-90. Otherwise, there are glass-reflector signs dating back to 1936 (!) on the old Huey Long Bridge.
Miss and LA used to have cateyed signs back in the day. I am quite sure every state did, at least sporadically. Mainly stop signs and other warning signs, occasionally shields. As for cateyed guide signs, some did, some didn't.
Quote from: jjakucyk on March 03, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Is button copy all that rare? It's everywhere along the I-71 corridor here in Cincinnati. I assume most of it is from the early to mid 1970s when the highway was built, and it's all in fine shape. There's not much along I-75, which was built in the 50s and 60s, so most of those signs have been replaced. Is it more of a state by state thing as far as rarity goes?
Not much longer.
See the Re: The Clearview thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1411.msg55304#msg55304)
Later in the thread I have some "before" pictures.
Here's another one showing the new sign posts:
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20091224 I-71 N @ Exit 75-2C by mightyace, on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mightyace/4284374472)
Out here in Western Colorado, what was left of the button-copy signs has been replaced within the last 3 to 4 years. :-(
The neat thing about C-DOT signs is that for the last 20 or so years, they have put stickers on the front corners of signs that show the year the signs were installed (similar to renewal stickers on license plates). This includes any C-DOT sign from BGSs to little 'directional arrow' signs.
One of these days, I'm going to get photos of each year's sticker as far back as possible, since each year is a different color pattern and it would make a great quick reference as to the "age" of the sign.
Quote from: thenetwork on March 03, 2010, 11:10:15 PM
Out here in Western Colorado, what was left of the button-copy signs has been replaced within the last 3 to 4 years. :-(
I definitely noticed that, driving on major state highways. Are they gone from old alignments too? I know old US-6 had a couple, like the town boundary for Rifle, as recently as 2006.
Yes, I've been trying to find a photo of this, thank you street view! :sombrero:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.382839,-83.217659&spn=0.002639,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.382838,-83.21766&panoid=R7KJ8y2Zyox6neOOrtaoOA&cbp=11,216.67,,1,-10.38 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.382839,-83.217659&spn=0.002639,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.382838,-83.21766&panoid=R7KJ8y2Zyox6neOOrtaoOA&cbp=11,216.67,,1,-10.38)
Quote from: Hellfighter on March 04, 2010, 12:16:34 AM
Yes, I've been trying to find a photo of this, thank you street view! :sombrero:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.382839,-83.217659&spn=0.002639,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.382838,-83.21766&panoid=R7KJ8y2Zyox6neOOrtaoOA&cbp=11,216.67,,1,-10.38 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.382839,-83.217659&spn=0.002639,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.382838,-83.21766&panoid=R7KJ8y2Zyox6neOOrtaoOA&cbp=11,216.67,,1,-10.38)
And that particular sign was being taken down on February 15...
Quote from: AARoads on March 04, 2010, 03:29:23 AM
Quote from: Hellfighter on March 04, 2010, 12:16:34 AM
Yes, I've been trying to find a photo of this, thank you street view! :sombrero:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.382839,-83.217659&spn=0.002639,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.382838,-83.21766&panoid=R7KJ8y2Zyox6neOOrtaoOA&cbp=11,216.67,,1,-10.38 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.382839,-83.217659&spn=0.002639,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.382838,-83.21766&panoid=R7KJ8y2Zyox6neOOrtaoOA&cbp=11,216.67,,1,-10.38)
And that particular sign was being taken down on February 15...
What!? NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: I never got a chance to take a picture of it!
Quote from: Hellfighter on March 04, 2010, 11:07:04 AM
What!? NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: I never got a chance to take a picture of it!
Jim Lindsay and I got to the sign just as they were parking a truck in front of it.
now pray to whichever deity you think is most helpful in this situation that they were merely cleaning it and/or repainting the faded numbers.
Man, and you didn't stick around to see? The only time I've seen ODOT actively replacing/removing signs was when they were decommissioning OK-74A. I would have got to chat with the guys in the fraggin' wagon and tried to wheedle a 74A shield out of them, had I not been in the process of going to work...
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 04, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on March 04, 2010, 11:07:04 AM
What!? NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: I never got a chance to take a picture of it!
Jim Lindsay and I got to the sign just as they were parking a truck in front of it.
now pray to whichever deity you think is most helpful in this situation that they were merely cleaning it and/or repainting the faded numbers.
Dude, could you send me a copy of the picture? I tried to get a pic in January, but I was too far to get anything!
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
Man, and you didn't stick around to see? The only time I've seen ODOT actively replacing/removing signs was when they were decommissioning OK-74A. I would have got to chat with the guys in the fraggin' wagon and tried to wheedle a 74A shield out of them, had I not been in the process of going to work...
no, we had a lot of Detroit to scour, and what were we gonna do, take home a 12x7 green sign?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 04, 2010, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
Man, and you didn't stick around to see? The only time I've seen ODOT actively replacing/removing signs was when they were decommissioning OK-74A. I would have got to chat with the guys in the fraggin' wagon and tried to wheedle a 74A shield out of them, had I not been in the process of going to work...
no, we had a lot of Detroit to scour, and what were we gonna do, take home a 12x7 green sign?
People do it all the time! :-D
Another US-10 Shield still around!
(somewhere in Detroit - thanks for sharing)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 03, 2010, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 03, 2010, 11:10:15 PM
Out here in Western Colorado, what was left of the button-copy signs has been replaced within the last 3 to 4 years. :-(
I definitely noticed that, driving on major state highways. Are they gone from old alignments too? I know old US-6 had a couple, like the town boundary for Rifle, as recently as 2006.
They had a few button-copy on US 6/50 near Mack (UT/CO Border), those have been replaced...Haven't traversed US 6 through Rifle in months, but the only one I remember seeing recently was a Button-Copy Glenwood Springs City Limit sign on Old US 6 west of the West Glenwood Exit.
CDOT really pulled a major EPIC FAIL for US 6 at that exit:
If you are Westbound on I-70, and get off at Exit 114 (West Glenwood) You'll see US-6 West on the BGS for the roundabout (at appx the 11:30 position on the sign)...http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rifle,+co&sll=42.382676,-83.217675&sspn=0.001954,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rifle,+Garfield,+Colorado&ll=39.56094,-107.358734&spn=0.000457,0.002411&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.560941,-107.358734&panoid=nWfUxaSqAyusHJgv52NiiQ&cbp=11,309.59,,0,-4.86
Then, if you were to follow this sign for "US 6 West" on the roundabout...http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rifle,+co&sll=42.382676,-83.217675&sspn=0.001954,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rifle,+Garfield,+Colorado&ll=39.5616,-107.361317&spn=0.003656,0.01929&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.561592,-107.361315&panoid=u1IH5n3OfIOSROtxX4GAtw&cbp=11,278.39,,0,-2.3
And go a few blocks west, you see two sizable "No Outlet" signs...(Hard to see on this picture, but there is one on either side of the road)...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rifle,+co&sll=42.382676,-83.217675&sspn=0.001954,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rifle,+Garfield,+Colorado&ll=39.561587,-107.3663&spn=0.000914,0.004823&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.561589,-107.366302&panoid=MQl0BSgmTeCNOVtXQUHj2A&cbp=11,319.57,,0,5
BTW, spin the camera 180 degrees, you'll see that only (Glenwood Springs) Button Copy sign I know of still in existence. (On the frontage road -- not the EB lanes of I-70...:)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 04, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter on March 04, 2010, 11:07:04 AM
What!? NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: I never got a chance to take a picture of it!
Jim Lindsay and I got to the sign just as they were parking a truck in front of it.
now pray to whichever deity you think is most helpful in this situation that they were merely cleaning it and/or repainting the faded numbers.
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If you look closely at the pedestrian bridge, there were two separate fences that prevented people from crossing over the freeway. Perhaps they were preparing to tear down the bridge??
You know, I think it might be worth wild to split off the thread and have a seperate one for all button copy finds. :nod:
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 04, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
You know, I think it might be worth wild to split off the thread and have a seperate one for all button copy finds. :nod:
It's not that rare in Ohio....I could fill up 2,000 images just in this area alone.
Quote from: shoptb1 on March 05, 2010, 02:20:44 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 04, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
You know, I think it might be worth wild to split off the thread and have a seperate one for all button copy finds. :nod:
It's not that rare in Ohio....I could fill up 2,000 images just in this area alone.
It is in other states like FL, VA, WV, PA, ect...
Button copy is something that has recently started to disappear. There used to be a lot of button copy in Arkansas but most of it was replaced by Clearpuke.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 05, 2010, 02:23:25 AM
It is in other states like ... PA
But not gone completely, this from this past Christmas!
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My Button Copy Collection on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mightyace/sets/72157623082763006/)
(As of this writing most of the Ohio pictures are just in the OH Road Signs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mightyace/sets/72157622958105815/) set. But, I'll be moving more there.)
True mightyace. However, they are disappearing. Sometime between June '08 and June '09, US-22 between US-219 and I-99/US-220 along the freeway section there lost all of it's button copy signs. Was a victim of a mass sign replacement. :(
PA still has some button copy. Check Philly or Pittsburgh, for example, where it's the rule instead of the exception.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 05, 2010, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: shoptb1 on March 05, 2010, 02:20:44 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 04, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
You know, I think it might be worth wild to split off the thread and have a seperate one for all button copy finds. :nod:
It's not that rare in Ohio....I could fill up 2,000 images just in this area alone.
It is in other states like FL, VA, WV, PA, ect...
I-77 north of Charleston is still all button copy...PA there's places throughout the state that has it.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 05, 2010, 06:20:09 AM
PA still has some button copy. Check Philly or Pittsburgh, for example, where it's the rule instead of the exception.
Just take the Liberty Bridge into town...it was full of button copy in December...didn't take any photos though. And there should still be a bunch on 279 and the surrounding surface streets on the North Shore.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on March 05, 2010, 07:41:00 AM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 05, 2010, 06:20:09 AM
PA still has some button copy. Check Philly or Pittsburgh, for example, where it's the rule instead of the exception.
Just take the Liberty Bridge into town...it was full of button copy in December...didn't take any photos though. And there should still be a bunch on 279 and the surrounding surface streets on the North Shore.
The West Chester By-Pass still has some original buttoncopy.
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PA still has plenty of buttoncopy. It isn't that rare, at least in my area.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 05, 2010, 06:20:09 AM
PA still has some button copy. Check Philly or Pittsburgh, for example, where it's the rule instead of the exception.
Around Bloomsburg, at Christmas, it is disappearing but not quickly. It looks like the signs are only taken down when they need to be replaced. I have some photos that I haven't posted yet of the Buckhorn interchange (Exit 234, PA 42/44) off of I-80. The control points sign on the WB exit are still original button copy while the EB control points sign is Clearview!
But they are definitely in the minority around my home town.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on March 05, 2010, 07:41:00 AM
And there should still be a bunch on 279 and the surrounding surface streets on the North Shore.
I-279 itself has no button copy.
EXCEPT one sign going onto I-279 from PA-65 that I know of.
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.448547,-80.011223&spn=0,359.993032&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.448543,-80.011102&panoid=9RA-3lBUhbBysSVFAtcUfA&cbp=12,94.34,,0,-10.73
I have a better picture of that one, but I can't find it right now.
There is however tons of button copy all around the Mellon Arena. :)
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Found a cutout!
it's in an undisclosed location. Dick Cheney's house, perhaps.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 05, 2010, 06:20:09 AM
PA still has some button copy. Check Philly or Pittsburgh, for example, where it's the rule instead of the exception.
I can't speak for Philly, and I'm not sure how wide an area you're thinking of for Pittsburgh, but I don't know that I'd say that B.C. is the rule instead of the exception in Pittsburgh anymore. (At least, not with the sign replacements related to the I-376 redesignation)
Quote from: Mr_Northside on March 12, 2010, 10:57:11 AM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 05, 2010, 06:20:09 AM
PA still has some button copy. Check Philly or Pittsburgh, for example, where it's the rule instead of the exception.
I can't speak for Philly, and I'm not sure how wide an area you're thinking of for Pittsburgh, but I don't know that I'd say that B.C. is the rule instead of the exception in Pittsburgh anymore. (At least, not with the sign replacements related to the I-376 redesignation)
Well, we can say it's the rule for I-579. I think the only non-button copy signs for I-579 are at the I-279/I-579 split on the Northside.
nice M-53 find! That's a City of Detroit issue; note the rounded corners. There were some M-3s like it up as late as 2006.
Quote from: thenetwork on March 04, 2010, 09:16:58 PM
They had a few button-copy on US 6/50 near Mack (UT/CO Border), those have been replaced...Haven't traversed US 6 through Rifle in months, but the only one I remember seeing recently was a Button-Copy Glenwood Springs City Limit sign on Old US 6 west of the West Glenwood Exit.
C-DOT just got that Glenwood Springs sign too over the last few weeks...And yet they still lead US-6 into a dead-end road!!! In fact, they ADDED a "To US-6" sign at CO-82 that leads to said dead end -- if you follow all the signs.
Here's one that as of yesterday (3/20/10) still survives in Eastern Utah just off of I-70.
First Generation Button Copy from the early 70s:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm5.static.flickr.com%2F4059%2F4450767631_b4b85935fd_m.jpg&hash=af07e4e2186f158e97c080aba1fc7ca53aa3725e)
Sign snaps of today:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS6abnGYKXkI%2FAAAAAAAAWAA%2FSJj4QJHfmbQ%2Fs640%2FIMG_2415.JPG&hash=51cbcfddb61e426292531a01b24897a8d273f32d)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS6abnv33keI%2FAAAAAAAAWAE%2FqHZyywGd1Sc%2Fs640%2FIMG_2423.JPG&hash=84c0933fc01eaf4cfa36e8e9147032ac846860cc)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS6aboBzBIZI%2FAAAAAAAAWAI%2FKA3DRoxU1iE%2Fs640%2FIMG_2424.JPG&hash=85de758849b0bf7175e926725bdb5d8191873417)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS6abovkiDNI%2FAAAAAAAAWAM%2FvYLZ7C2CG3w%2Fs640%2FIMG_2425.JPG&hash=935690041b0952b7dbe070f0fc644db07cb6131e)
what did Utah use before the early 1970s? the earliest photos I have are late 1970s shots from Michael Summa and they all show button copy.
A reader sent me the photograph above trying to locate where in Pennsylvania it would have been taken.
The photo and more details about the general physical location can be found on the blog:
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/03/where-was-this-old-sign-photo-taken.html
Here is a photo of an old yellow yield sign; snapped in rural Blount County, Alabama
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi338.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn418%2Fbarcncpt44%2Fyield.jpg&hash=753dac0ed1c170a8d0f202028be2a3e95ffa31db)
Quote from: CanesFan27 on March 21, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
A reader sent me the photograph above trying to locate where in Pennsylvania it would have been taken.
The photo and more details about the general physical location can be found on the blog:
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/03/where-was-this-old-sign-photo-taken.html
It's the Cresson Ridge Summit, just east of the town on Admiral Peary Highway near the Allegheny Portage Railroad National Historic Site in Cambria County.
Here is the Google Street View (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=cresson,+pa&fb=1&gl=us&ei=PpanS5mVOZekyATUuuDuBQ&ved=0CBUQpQY&hl=en&view=map&geocode=FRJeaQIdPMlQ-w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Cresson,+Cambria,+Pennsylvania&t=h&layer=c&cbll=40.456114,-78.559912&panoid=G3qgRSftWrFZT4lPb1X-rQ&cbp=12,320.57,,0,-3.77&ll=40.456156,-78.560057&spn=0.031152,0.077162&z=14) of the location as it looks now.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 05, 2010, 07:56:18 PM
There is however tons of button copy all around the Mellon Arena. :)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv645%2Frickmastfan67%2FInterstates%2FPA%2FI-579%2FP1060416s.jpg&hash=de5e05a9aeebf06ceb454e1829c8c0d76d7ba3ae)
Sounds like this sign's days are numbered. :(
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=450.msg57236#msg57236
Quote from: Hellfighter on March 11, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
Found a cutout!
it's in an undisclosed location. Dick Cheney's house, perhaps.
HA HA HA HA HA Maybe there are others in George W. Bush's house along with 100 in Dick Cheney's house.
Shot these a week ago:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS8vA4sUaHEI%2FAAAAAAAAafU%2FzxTOF4TNCy0%2Fs640%2FIMG_5783.JPG&hash=eecaf7ec6127791d7e293e7ea57d57974e679793)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS8vA4Y0Ox2I%2FAAAAAAAAafM%2FzLRcQoy_gHw%2Fs640%2FIMG_5779.JPG&hash=5d359029c139189e4a8c53db57dcd8f3b330c2f2)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2605%2F4467191704_d04202b971.jpg&hash=345cf3b7f3e6abb582d04946ecfb65e7b24617bc)
New Orleans (taken last month)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2622%2F4463246641_778a3bdce3.jpg&hash=86abe78d3a7c5c85ee760e44ad00a2f2055a5017)
This one is about to disappear: I-49 is getting sign upgrades :thumbdown:
Quote from: US71 on April 18, 2010, 11:01:52 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2605%2F4467191704_d04202b971.jpg&hash=345cf3b7f3e6abb582d04946ecfb65e7b24617bc)
New Orleans (taken last month)
Looks like Roosevelt Blvd. in Philly - are those two same-direction roadways next to each other? Are there a lot of accidents?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastroads.com%2Flouisiana050%2Fus-090_wb_app_broad_st_turn.jpg&hash=4193b21c8008b00bf6ea4c8b232bd492da3a8578)
A pic I took of it in 2002.
Its just a six-lane parkway. The sign is posted for the U.S. 90 turn from Gentilly Boulevard onto New Orleans Avenue.
Boom, I found it. They said it existed, but no one had proof. Well here it is...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_OCzCkZrPwos%2FS9Ena0MjbqI%2FAAAAAAAACAc%2F5Bsc9q9Lmcw%2FBUS%2520636.jpg&hash=b7ceb68a001030ae7d3ea53bbfa4ad5be212248c)
...it's not the best, but you can see the BUS SPUR I-696 shield, as well as a I-94 shield. I'll try to get a much better looking photo, I'll have to encode it in 1080p.
Quote from: Hellfighter on April 23, 2010, 12:54:18 AM
Boom, I found it. They said it existed, but no one had proof. Well here it is...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_OCzCkZrPwos%2FS9Ena0MjbqI%2FAAAAAAAACAc%2F5Bsc9q9Lmcw%2FBUS%2520636.jpg&hash=b7ceb68a001030ae7d3ea53bbfa4ad5be212248c)
Judging from the dash that is a circa 1965 Chevy Chevelle. Am I right?
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 18, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
Shot these a week ago:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS8vA4sUaHEI%2FAAAAAAAAafU%2FzxTOF4TNCy0%2Fs640%2FIMG_5783.JPG&hash=eecaf7ec6127791d7e293e7ea57d57974e679793)
How does the top of the sign get torn off? I can see the bottom from a truck but the top?
Godzilla maybe?
Probably either weathering, or termite damage, those signs are made of wood.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 23, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
Probably either weathering, or termite damage, those signs are made of wood.
Did you see the one (https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/pennsylvania999/state_rd_sb_at_disston_st.jpg) with the schwa?
Gone.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FIM005179.jpg&hash=07a8f5475266d49c0605023991c52bb7f2ebcd34)
Quote from: AARoads on April 23, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 23, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
Probably either weathering, or termite damage, those signs are made of wood.
Did you see the one (https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/pennsylvania999/state_rd_sb_at_disston_st.jpg) with the schwa?
I did not see that one.
Quote from: florida on April 24, 2010, 06:20:38 PM
**image of Beeline Expressway shield**
Yea, I was just there, didn't see it. It was on George King Boulevard in Port Canaveral, right?
Quote from: Sykotyk on March 05, 2009, 09:47:59 PM
(MO 266 cutout)
When I first saw this, it looked like you took a photo through a windshield that just had a bloody encounter with a deer.
1980's Polaroid that I had lost for several years. Once I found it (and the MO 96 cutout) I scanned them.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 24, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: florida on April 24, 2010, 06:20:38 PM
**image of Beeline Expressway shield**
Yea, I was just there, didn't see it. It was on George King Boulevard in Port Canaveral, right?
No, but George King Boulevard does have A1A duplexing with itself for the South direction.
The signs in that picture were on FL 3 southbound.
Quote from: AARoads on April 23, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 23, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
Probably either weathering, or termite damage, those signs are made of wood.
Did you see the one (https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/pennsylvania999/state_rd_sb_at_disston_st.jpg) with the schwa?
Uh...What is 'schwa'?
Quote from: ausinterkid on April 28, 2010, 04:15:32 AM
Uh...What is 'schwa'?
...The mid-central vowel sound (rounded or unrounded) in the middle of the vowel chart, stressed or unstressed. In IPA phonetic transcription, it is written as [É™]. In this case the term mid-central vowel may be used instead of schwa to avoid ambiguity....
more info -->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa)
Quote from: florida on April 26, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 24, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: florida on April 24, 2010, 06:20:38 PM
**image of Beeline Expressway shield**
Yea, I was just there, didn't see it. It was on George King Boulevard in Port Canaveral, right?
No, but George King Boulevard does have A1A duplexing with itself for the South direction.
The signs in that picture were on FL 3 southbound.
Ok I see it now. Street view just shows the gantry with an empty space for the Bee Line Expressway shield:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=28.406067,-80.70591&spn=0,0.019205&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=28.406155,-80.705907&panoid=e-clwtwZuUMzAZAAkZ0rvQ&cbp=12,221.05,,0,-1.34
Quote from: PennDOTFan on April 28, 2010, 04:01:01 PM
Ok I see it now. Street view just shows the gantry with an empty space for the Bee Line Expressway shield:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=28.406067,-80.70591&spn=0,0.019205&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=28.406155,-80.705907&panoid=e-clwtwZuUMzAZAAkZ0rvQ&cbp=12,221.05,,0,-1.34
Nice to see it was taken down somehow, but now, they've added South/East trailblazers to the same assembly.
Here is another pic with signage from the old SCDOT History pages:
This is now SC 93 EB approaching the US 123 connector. Back in 1957 this was the west end of the Easley Bypass
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F19980625084623%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.dot.state.sc.us%2FRoadDesign%2Fdothistory%2F1957%2F1.gif&hash=7459f23918faa37fd153029768eeb8144e81ab21)
Mapmikey
Discovered this historical gallery (http://deldot.net/archaeology/historic_pres/historic_gallery/index.shtml) tonight on the DelDOT web site. There are a handful of old sign photos scattered throughout the pages. Lots of nice shots of old concrete roads, bridges when they were first built, scenes showing rural roads that are now busy arterials, etc.
Sign finds:
A U.S. 113 cutout is found in the 1938 section.
Button copy sign bridge at the US 13 southbound ramp to US 40 and the Delaware Memorial Bridge on the 1952 section.
A 1955 image shows the sign standards of the time. Another shows then DE-14 at DE-18.
A 1962 image shows US 202 north at DE 141 with white/black text overheads.
A 1963 image shows DE 16 at US 113 with a US 113 cutout.
1964 is when cutouts were changed in style for US highways and Delaware state shields shifted to the circular cutouts.
The last sign of interest I found was a 1967 image showing overheads for Interstate 95 on what I believe is Delaware 141 north (https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/delaware200/us-202_de-141_nb_exit_003a_05.jpg).
WVU has a photo archive with shots of route signs and such:
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274105715;subview=detail;resnum=48;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-012867;viewid=012867.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274106856;subview=detail;resnum=86;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-014987;viewid=014987.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274106887;subview=detail;resnum=106;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-013440;viewid=013440.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274106887;subview=detail;resnum=120;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-012582;viewid=012582.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274106939;subview=detail;resnum=134;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-006565;viewid=006565.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274106939;subview=detail;resnum=137;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-008917;viewid=008917.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=route;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274107347;subview=detail;resnum=163;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-015356;viewid=015356.JPG
THis one has no signs but check out the brick pavement...
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;c=wvcp;q1=route;back=back1274107347;size=20;subview=detail;resnum=161;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-012397;viewid=012397.JPG
http://images.lib.wvu.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;q1=highway;size=20;c=wvcp;back=back1274107459;subview=detail;resnum=9;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=wvcp;entryid=x-011030;viewid=011030.JPG
Mapmikey
Nice find Alex!
QuoteButton copy sign bridge at the US 13 southbound ramp to US 40 and the Delaware Memorial Bridge on the 1952 section.
Hmm, so Delaware did use buttoncopy freeway signs at one point.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on May 17, 2010, 07:43:54 PM
Hmm, so Delaware did use buttoncopy freeway signs at one point.
I do not believe that it is button copy in that picture. I do not know what it is, though.
Delaware did use glass cateyes in shields, as can be seen in this photo:
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/DE/DE19310131i1.jpg)
note the 13, which is an independent-mount shield that they nailed to the guide sign.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.lib.wvu.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fgetimage-idx%3Fviewid%3D013440.JPG%3Bcc%3Dwvcp%3Bentryid%3Dx-013440%3Bview%3Dimage&hash=417dfc776173c7fb169d391eb990b02852343c32)
is the route number in a different color, or just extra-faded?
I thought it was buttoncopy myself when I first saw it, but I guess it isn't. May be just tacked on reflective lettering?
That white Delaware guide sign is awesome. Nice cat eye US 13!
Bill Manning sent me a photo of a button copy overhead taken in Edmond, OK in August 1978. Has I-35, US 66, and US 77 on it.
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/10/edmond-ok-road-signs-1977.html
Quote from: CanesFan27 on October 26, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Bill Manning sent me a photo of a button copy overhead taken in Edmond, OK in August 1978. Has I-35, US 66, and US 77 on it.
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/10/edmond-ok-road-signs-1977.html
cool! looks like '70 spec interstate, and '61 spec US shields. Nice mix, implying that OK switched to the '70 spec US shields a bit later than they switched interstate standards.
Bill sent us this one years ago from that same trip:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages240%2Fi-240_ok_wt_02.jpg&hash=be814ab78e6fc3f4fb424ccd8165d123ac029fa3)
Of course, that is now where the I-44/I-40 interchange is, I-240 having been truncated in favor of I-44 in the 80s. Strange seeing an I-240 NORTH sign. Is there any way we can see more of his OKC-area photos from the 70s? I would love to see more.
Some sign finds I came across while on business in Houston last week.
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/11/some-texas-sign-finds.html
button copy on the Sam Houston Tollway, a US 75 shield at a Rudy's BBQ, and an older I-45 Tx shield - (I hate that it's blurry!)
cool find! that's the only '57 spec Texas I know that survives. Dunno how old it is since it is likely not a state issue. There are some '61 spec I-610 shields around, both the 21x18 and 30x25 size, but this is the only known '57.
Jake,
Do you need the location for your next travel through Houston?
not for mine, but in general yes - Jeff Royston will be there soon, I am quite sure of that.
Just noticed this I-95 shield (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/5168472572/) recently. It's one of three (2 eastbound, 1 westbound) along Franconia Rd (SR 644) approaching Van Dorn St (SR 613). I believe the sign dates from 1977...that's the year I-95 was moved onto the Beltway and from what little I've gathered, this segment of Franconia Rd was already widened by then (the bridge over the Blue Line and the CSX tracks about a mile west was built in 1974).
Not sure what the spec year is on this shield.
that shield is '57 spec.
That I-95 is fairly standard for Virginia - obviously not their newest spec, but not exactly rare yet.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on November 11, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
That I-95 is fairly standard for Virginia - obviously not their newest spec, but not exactly rare yet.
only for 95, though, does it seem particularly common. 64 isn't too rare, but good luck finding an 81. there are a couple of '61 spec 21x18 I-81s left but I can't think of a '57 spec offhand. And I've never seen a 77 or 85.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 12, 2010, 12:01:24 AM
only for 95, though, does it seem particularly common. 64 isn't too rare, but good luck finding an 81. there are a couple of '61 spec 21x18 I-81s left but I can't think of a '57 spec offhand. And I've never seen a 77 or 85.
What are the specs of:
www.alpsroads.net/roads/va/us_11/n58.jpg
www.alpsroads.net/roads/va/us_11/nto77.jpg
www.alpsroads.net/roads/va/us_11/n77l.jpg
www.alpsroads.net/roads/va/us_11/n77r.jpg
www.alpsroads.net/roads/va/us_11/sto.jpg
www.alpsroads.net/roads/va/us_11/sto60.jpg
403'd.
The last one is definitely non-standard. I believe the second-to-last is the same.
Here are a few old Chester, PA signs...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FTOA_WnQsM4I%2FAAAAAAAAjjY%2FUdxYI2LFkV8%2Fs640%2FIMG_2952.JPG&hash=316888beda8c771edca43f83622b59d2c36ef079)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FTOA_XD2BSpI%2FAAAAAAAAjjg%2FdnyIoHv__XU%2Fs640%2FIMG_2955.JPG&hash=2558da1b87c0ee6174626feae3f484b91833113b)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FTOA_X8lkdtI%2FAAAAAAAAjjo%2Fs1Y9JeJOw6Y%2Fs640%2FIMG_2956.JPG&hash=32e41099a7570c42745b1dfcd4cf0941ae1cbddb)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FTOA_YdcEEnI%2FAAAAAAAAjjw%2Fy26qka8yerI%2Fs640%2FIMG_2957.JPG&hash=2f3960b90bea2dd98645ec7abc316b56947f21ae)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FTOA_Y1u9iPI%2FAAAAAAAAjj4%2FrujsJ8VqGHc%2Fs640%2FIMG_2958.JPG&hash=d3c647a8af893d684bebef14f8b6954747cf13e6)
Quote from: Roadsign199qc on November 13, 2010, 12:42:27 PM
403'd.
Yes, you have to copy the link and paste it in the browser. It's hotlink protection and unfortunately I can't control it for cold links like these.
Here's a classic, coming EB off the Mid Hudson Bridge in Poughkeepsie, NY - photo by myself, 11/11/10:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.ggpht.com%2F_LdJssxlEuTQ%2FTOG2iP-d2-I%2FAAAAAAAANCY%2FS72TWm2C0Jw%2Fs720%2FNYC%252011-2010%2520130.JPG&hash=b7464c4dfdbedaf37232e0a7fddcccdd6ae3376e)
Mike Natale found at least what seems rare to me a blue on white Pennsylvania decorative geographical sign. I've only seen these signs as Yellow on Blue.
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/11/mike-natale-finds-pennsylvania-sign.html
Quote from: CanesFan27 on November 18, 2010, 08:51:52 PM
Mike Natale found at least what seems rare to me a blue on white Pennsylvania decorative geographical sign. I've only seen these signs as Yellow on Blue.
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/11/mike-natale-finds-pennsylvania-sign.html
Neat find. I found a few of the gold on blue signs in West Pottsgrove Township (including 2 on US 422):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FS4li_2H9ahI%2FAAAAAAAAU5A%2FHZULGwOCkSw%2Fs640%2FIMG_0183.JPG&hash=a12d216095fac548a40b839abbdb63d74809eb33)
Don't know if these were posted yet, but found two US 99W cutout photos from Portland, Oregon:
http://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/a2005-001-82-n-broadway-south-on-larrabee-1937.jpg
http://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/a2005-001-318-n-interstate-ave-and-albina-ave-1945.jpg
A rather interesting find that one of my 'contacts' on flickr took:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluebird218/5227425657/in/faves-15530177@N05/
yep, still around... it's in Tazewell, so if anyone wants to steal it and replace it with one that is up to spec, please do so.
As many times as I have been through Tazewell, I have never seen that sign. Is it located on 25E or on a side street somewhere?
The Historic Pittsburgh Image Collection (http://digital.library.pitt.edu/pittsburgh), maintained by the University of Pittsburgh Library, has numerous road-related pictures from the metropolitan area spanning the past 100 years.
Sign directing traffic to US 22/US 30 (http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;sid=522fbb8e2a459f96eb7c8cc41ec9db67;q1=point;rgn1=ic_all;size=20;lasttype=boolean;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;subview=detail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-715.4161950.cp;viewid=20031218-HPICASC-0001.TIF;start=561;resnum=567) (which was a block to the east on Liberty Avenue) at the intersection of Penn Avenue and Barbeau Street, which looks like this (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Pittsburgh,+PA&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.441548,-80.007013&spn=0.000957,0.003433&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.441548,-80.007013&panoid=w8857Zia7QE8TF-Ggbq9UQ&cbp=12,251.19,,0,5) today.
Old signals and a sign for the Point and Manchester Bridges (http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;sid=522fbb8e2a459f96eb7c8cc41ec9db67;q1=point;rgn1=ic_all;size=20;lasttype=boolean;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;subview=detail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-000203.pic;viewid=000203PIC.TIF;start=801;resnum=812) in 1950, where the fountain in Point State Park now sits.
wow, a precursor to the custom Pennsylvania font we know and love ... as early as 1941!
The only "custom" fonts I am aware is/was the Pittsburgh Department of Public Works - which both of the signs in the photos were installed by - and the Allegheny County Sign Shop. I don't recall/know of anything being distinctive for Pennsylvania as a whole.
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Pennsylvania custom digits - most notable in digit "2"
ah...never really thought those as a statewide custom font.
PA seemed to be pretty consistent in their use for a while. And I have not seen them elsewhere, except... one random DC-US shield!
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/DC/DC19560501i1.jpg)
the 4 is federal standard, the 0 is indistinguishable, and the 2... distinctly Penna!
I think until recently, Quebec used a somewhat similar font on their province route shields. I also recall seeing a few mile markers along I-95/JFK Highway in Maryland in the font.
Yes, the '2' definitely rings a bell about Quebec's older shields here.
Did DC use different colors for different US routes?
only on a per-direction basis. west yellow, east blue, north blue, south red
Quote from: CanesFan27 on December 15, 2010, 11:05:53 AM
The only "custom" fonts I am aware is/was the Pittsburgh Department of Public Works - which both of the signs in the photos were installed by - and the Allegheny County Sign Shop. I don't recall/know of anything being distinctive for Pennsylvania as a whole.
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These are some examples, but I've always thought that PA used some unusual fonts for route markers, especially the 2's and the 4's, and I've seen them all over the state.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 19, 2010, 12:31:37 AM
These are some examples, but I've always thought that PA used some unusual fonts for route markers, especially the 2's and the 4's, and I've seen them all over the state.
And 9's. They're finally using MUTCD fonts but I wonder how they were using their variant for so much longer than any other state.
well hell...I guess when you grew up in PA and so used to seeing them..you just don't consider them as 'custom'!
I think PennDOT may still be using that font. I saw some brand new PA 352 shields installed with the font (they weren't new old stock, as they had the "10" printed on the bottom of the shield) in Lima.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on December 19, 2010, 06:19:31 PM
I think PennDOT may still be using that font. I saw some brand new PA 352 shields installed with the font (they weren't new old stock, as they had the "10" printed on the bottom of the shield) in Lima.
Well some of the new ones in SEPA have another weird custom font that has what looks like way more narrow numbers.
Has anybody else ever seen Fire Station warning signs that are red and white instead of yellow and black? Some 30-odd years ago, I saw one on Hulse Landing Road in Wading River, New York near Wildwood State Park. I'm so sorry I didn't have a camera on me back then.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 20, 2010, 03:53:59 PM
Has anybody else ever seen Fire Station warning signs that are red and white instead of yellow and black? Some 30-odd years ago, I saw one on Hulse Landing Road in Wading River, New York near Wildwood State Park. I'm so sorry I didn't have a camera on me back then.
About 10-15 years ago in Bentonville, AR... but I never got a photo. :(
You mean like this?
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I found this in Ivanhoe, VA in Sept 2010.
Mapmikey
Co-curator Virginia Hwys Project
www.vahighways.com
Old Signs I saw in Delaware yesterday
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Quote from: Mapmikey on December 20, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
You mean like this?
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I found this in Ivanhoe, VA in Sept 2010.
Mapmikey
Co-curator Virginia Hwys Project
www.vahighways.com
Not at all. It's more like the standard W11-8 signs:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2003r1r2/part2/fig2c-09_longdesc.htm
but the background is red, and the fire truck is white.
1961-spec I-75 and cutout U.S. 10 signs on Trumbull Street in Detroit, both with the "MICHIGAN" state name! Probably dates to when I-75 was completed behind Tiger Stadium. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.335223,-83.069086&spn=0,0.006845&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.335297,-83.069128&panoid=ztcCvLVpsUj2OLiRVc_a4Q&cbp=12,206.39,,2,-7.44 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.335223,-83.069086&spn=0,0.006845&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.335297,-83.069128&panoid=ztcCvLVpsUj2OLiRVc_a4Q&cbp=12,206.39,,2,-7.44)
there was a second US-10 shield across the street until a couple years ago.
However though, if you're in Detroit, you will never find a way onto U.S. 10, because it was scaled back to Bay City in 1986. It was replaced by M-10 in Detroit.
Here's one from the Michael Summa Collection on Millennium Highway
http://www.millenniumhwy.net/summa/summa-Pages/Image507.html (http://www.millenniumhwy.net/summa/summa-Pages/Image507.html)
One of the button-copy signs I got pics of today:
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Quote from: hbelkins on December 19, 2010, 12:31:37 AM
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Hey, an erroneous sign!
^^ That's what PA secretly wants to do with US 220!
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I don't think this sign is that old, but it's one of the last button-copys near Sallisaw.
Quote from: US71 on January 02, 2011, 01:40:25 PM
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I don't think this sign is that old, but it's one of the last button-copys near Sallisaw.
That sign has faded from a brown color to a greenish-red color!
Quote from: MDOTFanFB on December 24, 2010, 09:20:48 AM
However though, if you're in Detroit, you will never find a way onto U.S. 10, because it was scaled back to Bay City in 1986. It was replaced by M-10 in Detroit.
Here's the old street view of the other US-10 shield:
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It looks like all traces of it are gone now that Detroit is mostly on high-res street view. There was a time a few months ago when google was transitioning to the high-res imagery in Detroit when you could see that shield in one frame, then step one frame away and sadly see it gone in the high-res. There are a handful of other MICHIGAN/US 10 shields (not standalone cutouts) on "little green signs" throughout the city if you poke around. Not sure if those were put up by MDOT or the city though.
yep, those little green signs are City of Detroit jobs and date back to before the decommissioning.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 03, 2011, 01:01:13 PM
yep, those little green signs are City of Detroit jobs and date back to before the decommissioning.
They were probably put up sometime in the 1970's (or 1980)
BTW I have found an old street sign in the same city! That happens to be 1950's (or 60's) vintage black-on-white signs, newer Detroit street signs are white-on-green. The stop sign below is newer. Here's the street view: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.380889,-83.275133&spn=0,0.01369&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.380808,-83.275134&panoid=jcWyI1uuhKsKQQnlP-APjg&cbp=12,56.67,,2,0.47 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.380889,-83.275133&spn=0,0.01369&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.380808,-83.275134&panoid=jcWyI1uuhKsKQQnlP-APjg&cbp=12,56.67,,2,0.47)
Quote from: florida on January 02, 2011, 01:34:24 PM
^^ That's what PA secretly wants to do with US 220!
OK...
PennDOT still uses the PA font for route signs today... District 6 subcontracts out their signs, I think they are replaced roughly every 10 years, and I believe the company is a NJ-based company. I'm usually not happy with the contractor-manufactured signs...the keystone angles are off, the fonts have changed each installation, etc.
The PennDOT logo is at the bottom-center of all PennDOT-manufactured signs.
Quote from: jemacedo9 on January 27, 2011, 10:07:08 PM
District 6 subcontracts out their signs
I don't think they do this anymore. Every new install I've seen within the past few months have had the PennDOT logo on the bottom. Of course, I could be wrong.
I hope you're right!
I do too. The contractor ones always look off and the signs with the PennDOT symbol are cooler.
Found a few old Interstate shields near Barracks Row a few months ago. Finally got around to photographing them yesterday.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5011%2F5403043012_cf2b9c2764_z_d.jpg&hash=a912092211a60e26752661fcb486674f302fa49d) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/5403043012/)
This one's not that big of a deal, except that it uses "D.C." for the state name and is the only standalone I-295 shield I've seen on or along 8th St SE.
These next two, though, caught my eye:
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Note how the numbering appears to be peeling off the first one, but more curious is how these shields represet a route that hasn't existed in the area in question in over 30 years. These were at 7th and I SE.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5216%2F5402445541_ddde1a0a3e_z_d.jpg&hash=740679063abd694a3ee71ab8eb8b81c1d0d7115e) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/5402445541/)
Another I-295 "D.C." shield at 7th and Virginia SE.
I should go back in a few months to reshoot these, once better weather and better lighting return.
Quote from: froggie on January 30, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
Note how the numbering appears to be peeling off the first one, but more curious is how these shields represet a route that hasn't existed in the area in question in over 30 years.
That's because '395' is peeling off.
On that note, looks like a remnant "395" has mostly peeled off the other sheild as well. At first, I thought it was some sort of graffiti on the southbound shield.
Well, ahem, looks like I'll be down in DC in short order then.
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US 40 Westbound (Missouri) at I-55 SOUTH: I-44 WEST, I-70 WEST & Memorial Drive - (1983) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32293419@N04/5295331717/) by poundsdwayne47 (http://www.flickr.com/people/32293419@N04/), on Flickr
that one was shot during National Lampoon's Summer Vacation, which predates the I-64 extension in Missouri
This isn't extremely old, but is *somewhat* old
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Most AR 5 shields now use Series D
This assembly also pre-dates the larger initial letter in the directional banner.
Here's a new one. The exact location of this is being kept a secret.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_AXtC_YsMww4/TXJ23ubDTLI/AAAAAAAABBc/seqqV6gZXDY/s912/SAM_0555.JPG)
I think I know where that one is. Jim Lindsay and I found about eight of those in February, 2010.
Here is one I photographed yesterday. Modern PA 29 shields, but a nice old button copy LGS:
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Quote from: PennDOTFan on March 06, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
Here is one I photographed yesterday. Modern PA 29 shields, but a nice old button copy LGS:[/img]
You took it on the exact same day I took the old unisign that still mentions the Lodge as U.S. 10!!!
Quote from: froggie on January 30, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
Note how the numbering appears to be peeling off the first one,
reminds me of this sign:
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with extra rare "WASHINGTON DC" original designation!
Went into Philadelphia today and photographed some remaining button copy signs left on I-76. Here is my personal favorite from the trip:
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It seems to me that the sixes in the 676 are leaning over to the right, but however, I like the distance of 4/10 mile.
Can we get back to posting old signs photos?
I stumbled upon this gem on US 130 southbound near Deepwater, NJ today...
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is that cast iron or cast aluminum? NJ used both. very nice find!
My guess was cast iron....
but cast aluminum is also pretty hefty...(based upon the NJ 35)
Quote from: PennDOTFan on March 26, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
I stumbled upon this gem on US 130 southbound near Deepwater, NJ today...
I'm glad to see that's still there! Guess I didn't see it because it was knocked over. It's definitely cast iron.
Yeah I was shocked to find it still hanging around. Anyone think I should contact the railroad company to try and get it for my collection? :D
Quote from: PennDOTFan on March 12, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
Went into Philadelphia today and photographed some remaining button copy signs left on I-76. Here is my personal favorite from the trip:
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Dammit! You people are making me more eager to stop in Philadelphia, when I take my next trip up north!
Quote from: PennDOTFan on March 27, 2011, 12:14:22 PM
Yeah I was shocked to find it still hanging around. Anyone think I should contact the railroad company to try and get it for my collection? :D
Why not? Nothing to lose.....
That would be Conrail. But aren't signs on state highways generally owned by the state?
Conrail doesnt exist any longer....that would either be CSX or Norfolk Southern
No, Conrail still owns tracks in the NYC-Philly and Detroit "shared assets areas". Customers deal directly with CSX or NS, but I believe Conrail maintains the property and operates the local trains.
Quote from: NE2 on March 27, 2011, 09:28:00 PM
That would be Conrail. But aren't signs on state highways generally owned by the state?
Hard to tell which side of the ROW that was on, though almost certainly now on railroad property. I imagine it belongs to whichever side the pole is grounded on.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on March 26, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
I stumbled upon this gem on US 130 southbound near Deepwater, NJ today...
I was hoping somebody would stand the sign back up. If it's leaning over, some goofus might be more apt to take it down and throw it away.
Any idea how long those images take to load on a California desert connection?
Here's an old photo of an old sign:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60671280@N07/5565035594/
It was a Purdue student in the photo, especially since it is US 52. I would know that "P" logo anywhere, since I spent the better part of 5 yrs at that place.
A fellow I follow on Flickr sometimes finds some colored Florida shields still in use. Here's one, geotagged.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferret111/5662741455/
From yesterday in Strafford and South Strafford, Vermont.
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Old CA88 postmile marker (in excellent condition) spotted today on Carson River Road:
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Found this gem while on a bike ride near Capitol Hill today:
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wow, nice! Any older and it would say "WASHINGTON, D. C." on it.
Quote from: NE2 on March 28, 2011, 02:12:52 AM
No, Conrail still owns tracks in the NYC-Philly and Detroit "shared assets areas". Customers deal directly with CSX or NS, but I believe Conrail maintains the property and operates the local trains.
They have freight service to Detroit, New Jersey and Philadelphia.
Quote from: Sherman Cahal on June 30, 2011, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 28, 2011, 02:12:52 AM
No, Conrail still owns tracks in the NYC-Philly and Detroit "shared assets areas". Customers deal directly with CSX or NS, but I believe Conrail maintains the property and operates the local trains.
They have freight service to Detroit, New Jersey and Philadelphia.
'They' meaning who? If you want to ship freight by rail to any of those places, you use CSX or NS (or CN or CP as applicable). CSX and NS essentially contract with the remnants of Conrail to do the movements in the SAAs, if I'm not mistaken.
Spotted on a bike ride yesterday. Evidence that US 29 takes 11th St and not 13th as some official maps/GIS shapefiles indicate:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.static.flickr.com%2F6137%2F5946905554_ec81babbf1_z_d.jpg&hash=b6ffe67cbb34c25aabcabefdf099ae097ba952d9) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/5946905554/)
Quote from: froggie on July 17, 2011, 01:19:16 PM
Spotted on a bike ride yesterday. Evidence that US 29 takes 11th St and not 13th as some official maps/GIS shapefiles indicate:
[photo with 29 shield]
are we going by
de facto or
de jure definition? if the former, then indeed, that is indeed US-29, because it is signed as US-29 by, ostensibly, an authority who has the right to sign it. if the latter, then the sign might be in an erroneous location.
I wasn't aware that it was supposed to use 13th; 11th lets it avoid Logan Circle, which (avoiding circles) was presumably the point of the rerouting away from New Hampshire Avenue.
This one is interesting in that, to my knowledge, MnDOT has never used 3di-sized shields for 2-digit Interstate routes. This is on a St. Paul city street.
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that is an awesome find! looks to me like a 30x25, but with 9" number instead of the 8" that the 1961 specification calls for. Am I correct in that eyeballing? (any chance you can go up there with a measuring tape for me and get me height, width, and height of the digit "4"?)
(it may be a 21x18 and I totally misidentified the shape)
Quote(any chance you can go up there with a measuring tape for me and get me height, width, and height of the digit "4"?)
Not anymore. I snapped this photo about 20 minutes before I headed back East.
(EDIT) MnDOT's 3di shield size has long been 30x24. I don't recall this being a small shield, so that's probably the size (or something very similar). The aspect ratios suggest that these numerals are 10in numerals, which has also long been a MnDOT standard for Interstate shields.
Quote from: froggie on August 12, 2011, 06:55:09 PM
Not anymore. I snapped this photo about 20 minutes before I headed back East.
(EDIT) MnDOT's 3di shield size has long been 30x24. I don't recall this being a small shield, so that's probably the size (or something very similar). The aspect ratios suggest that these numerals are 10in numerals, which has also long been a MnDOT standard for Interstate shields.
gotcha. the layout (margin width, crown height) is 1961 spec. if so, it would be 30x25. looks to be so from the photo. (for some reason, instead of scaling to the proportional 28x24 between the 21x18 and 42x36 sizes, the feds made the standard 30x25.)
I think they might have taken an old blank and slapped on the new-size digits when they switched from 1961 to 1970 spec in 1973. Given that it's a 30x25, the 10" numbers would fit well even with the older-style larger margins and crown.
also, the fact that the numerals are Series DM instead of Series D reinforces the implication that it's an MnDOT issue, as DM is an old standard.
Most likely a state-aid project from way back when, so while they'd follow MnDOT spec, the local jurisdiction (Ramsey County in this particular case) would be responsible.
These are some cool pics. I'm gonna go hunt me some cool old signs.
Quote from: froggie on August 12, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
Most likely a state-aid project from way back when, so while they'd follow MnDOT spec, the local jurisdiction (Ramsey County in this particular case) would be responsible.
did not know that such a thing was done. very cool of them to follow the "Series DM" part of the specification, as there are so few DM shields left in Minn. I know of a 35 on an old US-65 alignment, which is - shockingly enough - in an even worse state of preservation than that 94.
This old "Bus Only (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.441811,-79.997512&spn=0.00307,0.006968&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.441707,-79.99758&panoid=WbKDGYN1ayo_cS0vZuq09w&cbp=12,11.34,,0,2.48)" sign on Smithfield Street here in Pittsburgh has been lost. During filming yesterday (Aug 13th) for Batman, one of the vehicles hit it and it exploded on contact. :(
I'll add a link to the video if they put it on KDKA's website.
Quote from: Hellfighter on July 22, 2009, 07:15:59 PM
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Dahlonega?
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US 23 south of Delaware, Ohio, just east of it's intersection with Oh 315 (Stratford). Circa 1927.
Found on this webpage - http://www.columbusrailroads.com/cd&m%20worthington%20north.htm
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 21, 2011, 05:40:10 PM
US 23 south of Delaware, Ohio, just east of it's intersection with Oh 315 (Stratford). Circa 1927.
Found on this webpage - http://www.columbusrailroads.com/cd&m%20worthington%20north.htm
cool photo! 1927 sounds about right.
In the background is the 23/L gantry (1926 and later).
in the foreground is the circular CAUTION/CURVE (1922-1930s or so) on top of a lit gasoline AGA beacon. that spot inside the CAUTION/CURVE is not a reflector, but an actual beacon which was illuminated from underneath. That style of beacon was developed in 1922 or so by the AGA company, but alas I cannot find the photo of a friend of mine standing beside said beacon, with "1927" stamp on it.
Very Interesting-
I have never seen a flashing baecon device like that before.
Odd that this is a combination advertizing/traffic control device.
If you have time to kill - NCDOT has a photo listing of all their overhead signs:
http://www.ncdot.org/doh/preconstruct/traffic/congestion/sign/inven/
A number of the old button copy overheads that they have photos of for example Summit Drive at US 29 in Greensboro, I-77 at US 421, I-85 at US 158 in Henderson, US 19/23/74 just after I-40, etc. have since been replaced.
It also has overheads of when I-74 in Surry County was still NC 752. Obviously not all the photos are best quality...but it's an interesting look.
Came across this gem at the Key Largo Visitor Center:
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IMG_6543 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15530177@N05/6118410317/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/15530177@N05/), on Flickr
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IMG_6544 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15530177@N05/6118956090/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/15530177@N05/), on Flickr
very awesome!
I wonder if it is the counterpart to this sign:
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photo taken in 1960
It would have been posted at the other end of the Keys.
Quote from: NE2 on September 06, 2011, 12:14:33 AM
It would have been posted at the other end of the Keys.
I was thinking that at one point it was posted at the end approaching from the mainland, and then, upon retirement, was moved into the Key Largo Visitors Center.
Yes, most likely. I would call a 'welcome to Key West the end of US 1' sign the counterpart of the one you posted.
Quote from: NE2 on September 06, 2011, 12:53:58 AM
Yes, most likely. I would call a 'welcome to Key West the end of US 1' sign the counterpart of the one you posted.
I just plain wasn't paying attention. I had thought the one I posted (1960 photo) was leaving the keys in general. Whoops.
shows how much attention I pay to the verbiage outside the shield! :pan:
Not sure how old - but nonetheless
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South C-905 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15530177@N05/6122824276/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/15530177@N05/), on Flickr
the newest S-shield I know of is Oct '77. Unless this one is newer (sometimes they say it on the back). that is just after they switched, around Apr '77 from the keys style shield to that style.
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Excelsior Springs, MO
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I'm thinking mid-1980s, based on the cars (including that 1st-gen RX-7).
Looks like Dixie/Ocean/Colorado in Stuart. It no longer has any numbered routes.
How about an old photo of an old road sign when it was new (from Michigan Tech Library):
http://www.digarch.lib.mtu.edu/showbib.aspx?bib_id=706023# :coffee:
that's great, thank you! I had never seen a single-digit fully embossed Michigan state route marker before.
I'm not sure if this sign is still there or not. I know it was still there as late as 2006. Edit: street view confirms it's still there!
This is in Mattoon, IL, just after 45 and 121 cross Illinois 16.
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Quote from: adt1982 on October 05, 2011, 09:31:34 AM
I'm not sure if this sign is still there or not. I know it was still there as late as 2006. Edit: street view confirms it's still there!
This is in Mattoon, IL, just after 45 and 121 cross Illinois 16.
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Wow! I barely recognize the place. Then again it was 9-10 years ago I last visited and 20 before that I last lived there ;)
Popped this on out of my scanner yesterday; taken in March 1997, just before the US ALT 27 signs were deprecated in Polk County. I wish I was into color film then...
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Alternate US Route 27 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/6242969923/) by formulanone at Flickr
Also, larger photo available on request.
If you hadn't mentioned that you took that in 1997, I would have assumed it was much older.
Nah...the SUV ahead means I couldn't fudge the past much further back! But grainy black and white film can distort time, if there's no glaring anachronisms.
Huh, I didn't even notice the SUV.
Probably because I was focusing on the sign itself.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on September 05, 2011, 11:24:06 PM
IMG_6543 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15530177@N05/6118410317/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/15530177@N05/), on Flickr
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IMG_6544 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15530177@N05/6118956090/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/15530177@N05/), on Flickr
WOW i LOVE that color!!! Did those shields used to also be on the road naked on cutout signs??
http://www.us-highways.com/flausa.htm
They were never on cutouts.
Quote from: relaxok on November 02, 2011, 08:45:03 PM
WOW i LOVE that color!!! Did those shields used to also be on the road naked on cutout signs??
Unfortunately, no, Florida never did make their colorful shields in a cutout version. I made two, though, one in red and one in orange:
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(Something must be wrong with the vector file, it produces a weird shadow in the upper-left corner.)
Quote from: NE2 on November 02, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
http://www.us-highways.com/flausa.htm
They were never on cutouts.
But Mississippi has cutouts
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Found these beauties in Vermont last week:
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These next two are just across the border in New Hampshire:
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I took this photo of what was an old Black and White guide sign and old Kennywood Park sign at Kennywood's Auto Ride.
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IMG_7373 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/4766766263/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
I think this was located most likely on US 19
Bright light city gonna set my soul, gonna set my soul on fire...
(Edit: Image posted on Photobucket deleted)
I was going through some issues of NDOT newsletters; it's in the Spring 2006 issue.
http://www.nevadadot.com/News/NEWSLETTERS.aspx (http://www.nevadadot.com/News/NEWSLETTERS.aspx)
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 21, 2011, 05:40:10 PM
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US 23 south of Delaware, Ohio, just east of it's intersection with Oh 315 (Stratford). Circa 1927.
Found on this webpage - http://www.columbusrailroads.com/cd&m%20worthington%20north.htm
how about this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ENAMEL-ROUND-CAUTION-CURVE-SIGN-/290645896439?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43abd86cf7
Quote from: CanesFan27 on December 11, 2011, 07:23:20 PM
I took this photo of what was an old Black and White guide sign and old Kennywood Park sign at Kennywood's Auto Ride.
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IMG_7373 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/4766766263/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
I think this was located most likely on US 19
Based on the mileage I'd say US 6/322 EB.
Antique toy signs from here in Delaware.
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You'll notice that these devices look very similiar to the "sign" on the far right hand side of this photo as well
http://www.columbusrailroads.com/photogallery-4/021%20Stratford%20Ohio-1200.jpg
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Lebo, KS
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Ashdown, AR -- No longer exists
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Near Pittsburg, KS
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Williamsville, IL
Quote from: Tom on October 03, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
How about an old photo of an old road sign when it was new (from Michigan Tech Library):
http://www.digarch.lib.mtu.edu/showbib.aspx?bib_id=706023# :coffee:
Not only the sign, but that guardrail from the good old days....
There's a few old cast iron signs from the Lebanon Machine Company (of Lebanon, New Hampshire) that are scattered around Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont. To my best guess, these signs were produced in the 1910s and 1920s and I suspect that they were color coded by state to some extent. Most of the signs I've seen are in Massachusetts or New Hampshire, I doubt there's any in Rhode Island and I haven't come across any in Maine. There's more of these signs in Massachusetts that I'm aware of, in the Boston area, but I haven't gotten around to photographing them yet.
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Middlebury, Connecticut. This is the only such sign that I've come across in the Constitution State.
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Mendon, Massachusetts. There's a bunch of old signs in general floating around Mendon.
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Hingham, Massachusetts.
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Originally in Randolph, Vermont, but now in front of someone's house on VT Route 2A.
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Woodstock, Vermont.
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Orford, New Hampshire.
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Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire.
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Bethlehem, New Hampshire.
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Bethlehem, New Hampshire.
On US 17 South, just south of Ridgeland, South Carolina, taken last week.
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The sun was at a bad angle, so it's hard to see, but there used to be "ALT" next to US 17.
Quote from: Jim on December 26, 2011, 03:58:20 PM
The sun was at a bad angle, so it's hard to see, but there used to be "ALT" next to US 17.
Plus if you zoom in enough on the image, you can also see the following text under the SC-170 shield, "US 17".
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on December 27, 2011, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: Jim on December 26, 2011, 03:58:20 PM
The sun was at a bad angle, so it's hard to see, but there used to be "ALT" next to US 17.
Plus if you zoom in enough on the image, you can also see the following text under the SC-170 shield, "US 17".
Yes, definitely. Here's a crop from my original:
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/llnesinthesand/3648721612/in/pool-scroadsigns|llnesinthesand#/photos/llnesinthesand/3648721612/in/pool-924468@N23/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/llnesinthesand/3648721612/in/pool-scroadsigns%7Cllnesinthesand#/photos/llnesinthesand/3648721612/in/pool-924468@N23/)
a little bit brighter where you can see the ghost 'ALT" and "US 17"
Fixed URL link to be clickable. -rmf67
Two items I found this weekend on MD 257
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005 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/6670921725/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
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019 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/6670947413/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Circa 1973 in Fayetteville, AR:
2D-Style US 62B and US 71B
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Courtesy Fayetteville Public Library and City of Fayetteville Office of Planning
From the "Old Images of Philadelphia" Facebook page.
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Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 15, 2012, 10:15:04 PM
From the "Old Images of Philadelphia" Facebook page.
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Gorgeous!! :clap:
Not nearly as old as some of the excellent stuff posted here, but here's a well-worn one from I-95 and MA 128 northwest of Boston:
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Circa 2002.
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2007 Colby, KS
Business 70 doesn't even exist here anymore.
And one from Illinois
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Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
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Circa 2002.
There isn't much button copy left in Missouri, is there? I have seen some on some of the intersecting roads along I-55 down in the bootheel area, but very little at all anywhere else in my travels in the Show-Me State.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2012, 05:16:05 PM
There isn't much button copy left in Missouri, is there? I have seen some on some of the intersecting roads along I-55 down in the bootheel area, but very little at all anywhere else in my travels in the Show-Me State.
there's a fair amount in Kansas City on side streets to the Exit 2 complex as of February, 2010.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2012, 05:16:05 PM
There isn't much button copy left in Missouri, is there? I have seen some on some of the intersecting roads along I-55 down in the bootheel area, but very little at all anywhere else in my travels in the Show-Me State.
Very little, if any. Last button copy I remember was for I-35 along MO 269 and that was Summer of 2008
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Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
[bl-70 and ks-25]
2007 Colby, KS
Business 70 doesn't even exist here anymore.
neato! I am glad that photo exists, as my photo of that gantry, from Dec 2007, looks like this:
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that was at 4am, after I had been talked to by the sheriff because I stopped in the middle of an intersection to take a picture of a US-24 sign in Colby... he was kindly escorting me out of town, so that's the photo I snapped.
Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
And one from Illinois
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Location? Direction? (It says "preserved" so it's safe.)
Quote from: The Situationâ„¢ on January 16, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
And one from Illinois
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Location? Direction? (It says "preserved" so it's safe.)
Pontiac, IL , near North side looking south. Bridgehunter reports the bridge is closed now, but is preserved.
State-outline Indiana 43 shield: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60671280@N07/6711258287/
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 16, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
[bl-70 and ks-25]
2007 Colby, KS
Business 70 doesn't even exist here anymore.
neato! I am glad that photo exists, as my photo of that gantry, from Dec 2007, looks like this:
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/KS/KS19610702i1.jpg)
Usual rules apply if you post it to the gallery (ie make sure I get credit ) ;)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 16, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
that was at 4am, after I had been talked to by the sheriff because I stopped in the middle of an intersection to take a picture of a US-24 sign in Colby... he was kindly escorting me out of town, so that's the photo I snapped.
You got chased out of town for taking a picture of a sign?
Quote from: hbelkins on January 17, 2012, 10:43:16 AM
You got chased out of town for taking a picture of a sign?
not quite.
I was stopped in the middle of an intersection which had US-24, I-70, and KS-25 signs; my foot on the brake, with the camera resting on the steering wheel for a medium-long exposure shot. absolutely no traffic, except when I moved along, a few seconds later, the sheriff (who had been, apparently, a block or three away with his lights off) pulled me over and asked me just what I had been doing stopped in the middle of the intersection like that.
I told him that I had gotten disoriented and had been comparing the signs to my map. I quickly asked for directions back to I-70, and he told me to take 25 south. to make sure that I did, he followed me.
it was a reasonable response on his part; it wasn't anywhere near I was "chased out of town", as much as I was lucky to not get a ticket.
Quote from: Jim on January 16, 2012, 10:37:34 AM
Not nearly as old as some of the excellent stuff posted here, but here's a well-worn one from I-95 and MA 128 northwest of Boston:
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Somehow that sign escaped the replacement in the 90s that included button copy in I-shields (only); the signs to the right on the same gantry (http://g.co/maps/v8xvp (http://g.co/maps/v8xvp)) were replaced then but not the pull-through, maybe because of the C-D setup? Although that replacement was a full-blown replacement of everything, including signage on intersecting roads, so I don't know why the pull-through would have been missed. At least they coulda put a button-copy shield up on the old sign!
Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: The Situationâ„¢ on January 16, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 16, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
And one from Illinois
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Location? Direction? (It says "preserved" so it's safe.)
Pontiac, IL , near North side looking south. Bridgehunter reports the bridge is closed now, but is preserved.
Old SBI 4, pre-dating any part of US-66 along there.
I once read a history book that showed a photograph of a no parking sign from the south in the 1950's that read "No Parking for Negro or N*****s Allowed," or something to that effect. You can probably guess what the bleeped out word is. And that was a genuine road sign!
I'm not so sure I'd want to see that for any reason other than to prove such road sigsn existed.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 11, 2012, 01:36:25 AM
I once read a history book that showed a photograph of a no parking sign from the south in the 1950's that read "No Parking for Negro or N*****s Allowed," or something to that effect. You can probably guess what the bleeped out word is.
Neocons?
Nissans?
Nougats. those assclowns. placate the border patrol: shoot a nougat in the face today.
But without nougat, there would be no Three Musketeers...And thus, no end to Slumdog Millionaire.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 11, 2012, 01:36:25 AM
I'm not so sure I'd want to see that for any reason other than to prove such road sigsn existed.
Some towns actually did post signs at the city limits to keep blacks out. But very few of these signs have ever been photographed.
Quote from: NE2 on February 11, 2012, 01:47:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 11, 2012, 01:36:25 AM
I once read a history book that showed a photograph of a no parking sign from the south in the 1950's that read "No Parking for Negro or N*****s Allowed," or something to that effect. You can probably guess what the bleeped out word is.
Neocons?
NIMBYS!!!
Going through a box of old junk, found a gem... 1955 during the flood in Stafford Springs, CT Where the EB Conn 20 (now 190) and SB Conn 32 Concurrency Split on main street. Notice guide signs showing 32 SB to Providence and Willimantic, and then EB instead of a sign for 20 EB, it shows to Conn 15 (Wilbur Cross Highway, now I-84) Boston and Worcester sign.
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Quote from: wytout on February 19, 2012, 08:08:10 AM
Going through a box of old junk, found a gem... 1955 during the flood in Stafford Springs, CT Where the EB Conn 20 (now 190) and SB Conn 32 Concurrency Split on main street. Notice guide signs showing 32 SB to Providence and Willimantic, and then EB instead of a sign for 20 EB, it shows to Conn 15 (Wilbur Cross Highway, now I-84) Boston and Worcester sign.
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SAVE THE SIGNS!!!!!!
http://g.co/maps/ueefv
Here's roughly the same intersection today. Thank you boredom! :)
Seriously, that was likely during Hurricane Diane in 1955. New England was hit with two huge storms in two weeks or less. I wasn't around them, so be kind if I'm wrong! :pan:
Quote from: wytout on February 19, 2012, 08:08:10 AM
Going through a box of old junk, found a gem... 1955 during the flood in Stafford Springs, CT Where the EB Conn 20 (now 190) and SB Conn 32 Concurrency Split on main street. Notice guide signs showing 32 SB to Providence and Willimantic, and then EB instead of a sign for 20 EB, it shows to Conn 15 (Wilbur Cross Highway, now I-84) Boston and Worcester sign.
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I think I see a Studebaker dealership that no longer exists.
Two recent items I found over Memorial Day weekend in rural parts of Eastern NC.
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013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/7367030140/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
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Tee's Chapel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/7367032846/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
The Tee's Chapel is the sixth black-on-white sign I have found. Two of them, Wake Crossroads and Mt. Pelier Church have been removed. The other Amantha - I have yet to see in person.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on June 12, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
The Tee's Chapel is the sixth black-on-white sign I have found. Two of them, Wake Crossroads and Mt. Pelier Church have been removed. The other Amantha - I have yet to see in person.
the Amantha sign is around on old US-421 as of Nov '10.
More oldies from Philadelphia...
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That's supposed to read 14 MPH
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Cast iron street sign along the Ben Franklin Pkwy (not Lower Merion Twp)
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And something resembling railroad crossing lights in the middle of an intersection
I don't see the railroad crossing lights. where are they in the photo?
^^ fixed (finally :banghead:)
Civil defense route in New York:
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N.53.16.5362 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/north-carolina-state-archives/2332972195/) by State Archives of North Carolina (http://www.flickr.com/people/north-carolina-state-archives/), on Flickr
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gotta love those old-style Ohio arrows!
http://pgdigs.tumblr.com/image/30516213178
1950 cats-eye and raised curved sign - Pittsburgh PA
that looks like the arrow element is separately riveted onto the diamond blank!
California classics from Facebook
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Anyone seen any images of the once-common "CAUTION CURVES" green signs that were once somewhat common on the E-W Mainline of the Pennsylvania Turnpike?
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 02, 2012, 11:13:43 PM
California classics from Facebook
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It'd be hard to go slow on those curves.
Um, where were we?
Quote from: Steve on November 03, 2012, 05:45:25 PM
It'd be hard to go slow on those curves.
Um, where were we?
Some nursing home in Orange Co.
http://vintageportland.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/harbor-drive-1962/
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Found on a side street, just off the Eisenhower Expressway in Chicago:
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It was definitely installed sometime before the mid-1970s.
there's several of those 18x18 I-90s in that stretch. I think they date back to the late 50s or early 60s.
Quote from: Brandon on November 09, 2012, 07:28:10 AM
Found on a side street, just off the Eisenhower Expressway in Chicago:
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It was definitely installed sometime before the mid-1970s.
ihateyouihateyou i was just there and no one told me ihateyou
Quote from: Steve on November 09, 2012, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 09, 2012, 07:28:10 AM
Found on a side street, just off the Eisenhower Expressway in Chicago:
(Image)
It was definitely installed sometime before the mid-1970s.
ihateyouihateyou i was just there and no one told me ihateyou
I found this one quite by accident as I was parking along Harrison. Looked up, and saw it just above where I parked. It was fairly well hidden by the trees along the street.
Another classic from someone's Facebook collection
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Caption with the photo...
QuoteThis "Death Thermometer" was placed at the intersection of 4th and Westlake in 1940 by the Seattle Traffic and Safety Council. The little boy atop the car was 'Safety Pete', the official mascot.
Quote from: NE2 on November 09, 2012, 12:13:59 AM
http://vintageportland.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/harbor-drive-1962/
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I just explored this area on Historic Arials, it appears that his whole interchange is gone.
Quote from: NE2 on November 09, 2012, 12:13:59 AM
http://vintageportland.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/harbor-drive-1962/
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Lots of good reasons for posting this pic:
1) Depending on what side of the mainline you're on, it's a left AND/OR right exit.
2) Sign Errors: 2 Harbor Drive signs, with one being flip-flopped.
3) Best Of Signs: Self explanatory.
I think the leftmost sign was over an onramp, not the mainline.
Quote from: thenetwork on November 13, 2012, 11:10:59 PM
Lots of good reasons for posting this pic:
1) Depending on what side of the mainline you're on, it's a left AND/OR right exit.
2) Sign Errors: 2 Harbor Drive signs, with one being flip-flopped.
3) Best Of Signs: Self explanatory.
also, that '60 Impala. :sombrero: '59 ain't bad either.
can anyone tell me what that small European-looking car is? closest to the camera of all the cars which are fully visible.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 14, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
can anyone tell me what that small European-looking car is? closest to the camera of all the cars which are fully visible.
Yep.
It's a Renault Dauphine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Dauphine).
The car was exported from France to the North American market in the late 1950's and early 1960's in relatively large numbers, and at one time, was somewhat common, but it was never able to effectively compete with the Volkswagen Beetle (like the Beetle, the Dauphine had an engine mounted in the rear, though the Dauphine's engine was water-cooled).
From my research: The rightmost set of lanes is from the Baldock Freeway, a precursor to I-5, and an later addition to the existing Harbor Drive that you see in the middle, the ramp accessable from both goes to Clay Street, just about everything in this pic was demolished around 1975, since 5 was routed across the bridge and up the other side of the river. In this pic, the center NB lanes of Harbor and the rightmost NB lanes of the Baldock merge just beyon this interchange, with Harbor predating Baldock by about 10 years.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 14, 2012, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 14, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
can anyone tell me what that small European-looking car is? closest to the camera of all the cars which are fully visible.
Yep.
It's a Renault Dauphine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Dauphine).
The car was exported from France to the North American market in the late 1950's and early 1960's in relatively large numbers, and at one time, was somewhat common, but it was never able to effectively compete with the Volkswagen Beetle (like the Beetle, the Dauphine had an engine mounted in the rear, though the Dauphine's engine was water-cooled).
Seeing that this was on the west coast, it could also be a Hino Contessa. Japanese-made cars started appearing in the US in the early 1960s.
My dad drove a Reanult Dauphone around 1963 when I was a kid. The car was just like the one in the photo, except that his was blue.
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from www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=IN19610651
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from http://www.flickr.com/photos/metroblossom/1595620009/ (sign has since been removed)
Still a few of these found in the small old steel towns of the Mon Valley
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2535%2F3709936789_a96361bcab.jpg&hash=fc599cf1f82631771a40fcb7ad9471619fa28865) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/3709936789/)
Signals ahead in Webster (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/3709936789/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
A bunch from the Florida Memory Collection:
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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamemory.com%2Ffpc%2FDOT%2Fdot1967.jpg&hash=1b08096ab12b5575fe695d2560232cffb6fb8dae) (http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/103989)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamemory.com%2Ffpc%2FDOT%2Fdot1971.jpg&hash=116d36fbf2f2f45592cbef1df06d9791c35221b6) (http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/105535)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamemory.com%2Ffpc%2FDOT%2Fdot1968.jpg&hash=b3d62ad64770afdd26c470bf6f82a4097a370452) (http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/105532)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamemory.com%2Ffpc%2FDOT%2Fdot1977.jpg&hash=730ced8cb4935c2357e6c4e59bacd65536b5d9ff) (http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/60122)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamemory.com%2Ffpc%2FDOT%2Fdot1966.jpg&hash=9a0d37df4fd935603a01b93eacd9a9aedd355104) (http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/105531)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamemory.com%2Ffpc%2FDOT%2Fdot2052.jpg&hash=e28c96d535603184154723d0f43eef983b02a541) (http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/105609)
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Quote from: formulanone on February 13, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
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They don't make em like that anymore!
Quote from: Steve on February 14, 2013, 12:07:04 AM
They don't make em like that anymore!
Considering that in 1954, the average car was close to 2 tons without fuel or passengers... :wow:
Ohhh, to poke through that sign shop for treasures (like those embossed shields!)
Quote from: ctsignguy on February 15, 2013, 08:10:38 AM
Ohhh, to poke through that sign shop for treasures (like those embossed shields!)
And the older state road shield blanks!
Fun With eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARIANNA-FLORIDA-Confederate-Soldiers-Monument-1961-Chevrolet-automobile-/400415292322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3a9c7ba2
Check out the bottom one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-postcard-Dunedin-Florida-Main-Street-Edgewater-Dr-1955-1960-stamps-/321072204677?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac1650b85
A few I found:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13184821@N07/5867764450/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/dboo/2200624126/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/6956628545/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/8450283351/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/6967629675/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/mit-libraries/3441016015/
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More Boston here: http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=24029425@N06&q=sign http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=8057117@N03&q=sign
these are great! especially the first one, which is from New York City. the signs look to be about 60s, but the gantry dates back to the 30s or 40s for sure.
Found these photos while researching I-74 through Peoria, which show the original squashed cloverleaf interchange at North Main Street (US 150/IL 116):
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Peoria and I-74 from East (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24736216@N07/4172398308/) by roger4336 (http://www.flickr.com/people/24736216@N07/), on Flickr
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Downtown Peoria and I-74 (1975) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24736216@N07/4172398540/) by roger4336 (http://www.flickr.com/people/24736216@N07/), on Flickr
An easy method of finding footage of old signs is by watching older TV programs and movies. For example, this is one of many views of old Atlanta signage on the show "Matlock", showing Downtown Connector exit 99 (now exit 249C), complete with a vintage Delta Airlines billboard in the background (I don't know why the middle sign on the gantry to the right has a lot of unused space, maybe GA 10 didn't exist in 1994, if it was originally that way when it was installed when the Connector was widened during "Free the Freeways", someone from the Atlanta area can chime in):
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And a comparison I made, showing how much the Connector has changed between 1994 (when the particular episode showing that scene first aired) and 2011 (when the Street View image was taken), including the 2000 change to mileage-based exits (of course) and the conversion of the innermost lanes to HOV around the same time:
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Quote from: MDOTFanFB on March 21, 2013, 04:29:51 PM
An easy method of finding footage of old signs is by watching older TV programs and movies. For example, this is one of many views of old Atlanta signage on the show "Matlock", showing Downtown Connector exit 99 (now exit 249C), complete with a vintage Delta Airlines billboard in the background (I don't know why the middle sign on the gantry to the right has a lot of unused space, maybe GA 10 didn't exist in 1994, if it was originally that way when it was installed when the Connector was widened during "Free the Freeways", someone from the Atlanta area can chime in):
And a comparison I made, showing how much the Connector has changed between 1994 (when the particular episode showing that scene first aired) and 2011 (when the Street View image was taken), including the 2000 change to mileage-based exits (of course) and the conversion of the innermost lanes to HOV around the same time:
I still have some VHS video that I shot through Atlanta in 1995 and 1996. A lot of button copy was still around in 1995 and many overheads were lit at night.
A couple of my 1995/96 still-shots (need to be rescanned) are found on http://www.southeastroads.com/i-075f_ga.html
One northbound photo is posted too:
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/georgia075/i-075_085_nb_exit_245_03.jpg)
Quote from: Alex on March 21, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
I still have some VHS video that I shot through Atlanta in 1995 and 1996. A lot of button copy was still around in 1995 and many overheads were lit at night.
Didn't know that there was a brief period when Georgia used both Series D and sequential exit numbering! And how do we view those videos? I know you used to have a Youtube account (you had I-85 south through the metro area in January 1996 and two night ones of I-285 in June 1996, both of the night ones even had awesome jazz music!), but you've deleted it a while back.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on June 12, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
The Tee's Chapel is the sixth black-on-white sign I have found. Two of them, Wake Crossroads and Mt. Pelier Church have been removed. The other Amantha - I have yet to see in person.
Was this any of the six you've previously seen? I ran across this one yesterday on River Rd between NC 903 and NC 46 near Lake Gaston. There was a green Warren Co sign hanging on the same post heading the other direction.
Mapmikey
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Mike,
Great find! That is most likely the only w-o-b county sign in NC left standing. We go up to Lake Gaston (specifically to Bracey) 3-4x a year. There are some other older signs on side roads in the Littleton area.
Classic New York City porcelain "humpback" street sign with original sign case.
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From just north of Logan Airport back in the day. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/3682412072/sizes/o/in/set-72157620726678645/) I think the US 1 shield covers a C-1 shield?
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 29, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
From just north of Logan Airport back in the day. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/3682412072/sizes/o/in/set-72157620726678645/) I think the US 1 shield covers a C-1 shield?
Probably; this went from C1 to US 1 to 1A. But the choice of control cities is a bit weird, since both are off to the right on 1A in a couple miles.
Well, judging by where that was taken the control cities make perfect sense. [What is now] 1A goes straight through both Revere and Lynn, both of which are big cities. In fact from that point it would be physically impossible to go anywhere other than Revere (or by taking the exit to 145, Winthrop).
Current signage shows just Revere as the control city for 1A northbound, with 145 changed to Chelsea (seems kinda like an odd choice to me), and according to Steve Alpert's site, the previous generation of signage remained Revere and Lynn: http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_1a/n145.jpg
excellent double-bordered 145 shield. the US-1 looks like a standard '61 spec independent-mount shield.
From 1966 - I-76 and 79 signed in downtown Pittsburgh
http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=fort%20pitt;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1365010390;subview=detail;resnum=422;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-715.119237-und-4.cp;viewid=119237_4CP.TIF
not to mention the US-22 and US-30 cutouts!
Here is a picture of the Eastern Shore ferry landing of US 13
http://www.esva.net/ghotes/placepix/economy/transportation/bridge2.jpg (http://www.esva.net/ghotes/placepix/economy/transportation/bridge2.jpg)
Here is an old stream name sign from when VA 520 was still unpaved. This picture would be 1930 or 1931, I'm guessing.
http://www.esva.net/ghotes/chincoteague/ChincoteagueGallery/pages/chincoteagueblacknarrowsbridge.htm
Also, the original drawbridge to Chincoteague (not the 1940 bridge recently replaced)
http://www.esva.net/ghotes/chincoteague/ChincoteagueGallery/pages/chincoteagueDrawBridge.htm
Classic black and white highway signs at exit 28B on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway in New York City. Circa 1966.
I recall these were common to see on other highways, like the former elevated West Side Hwy. and Belt Pkwy.
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Fantastic picture. The signage and the lighting had been a staple of New York City highways. :clap:
Quote from: CanesFan27 on April 03, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
From 1966 - I-76 and 79 signed in downtown Pittsburgh
http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=fort%20pitt;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1365010390;subview=detail;resnum=422;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-715.119237-und-4.cp;viewid=119237_4CP.TIF
Now if only there were pictures showing I-579 being signed as I-479 or I-876.
Quote from: M3019C LPS20 on April 04, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
Classic black and white highway signs at exit 28B on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway in New York City. Circa 1966.
I recall these were common to see on other highways, like the former elevated West Side Hwy. and Belt Pkwy.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1013.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf258%2FSteven197981%2F65675033340_002162_zps3d8c13ed.jpg&hash=5a8cc96f48a3a8736d18701b0b2a5914dd381115)
Is the one out on Conduit Blvd near JFK still there?
No.
Taken this afternoon (4/10/13) in Cincinnati:
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Getting lost in a bad neighborhood had an unexpected perk.
According to Google Map, as of 2011, this vintage "humpback" porcelain street sign still remains intact. It is located in downtown, Brooklyn, New York, and everything is still original. It is perhaps the only survivor in the entire city.
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The only alteration to the sign itself is that the city painted over Hudson Ave., which is apparently a driveway nowadays. Also note the additional two brackets that are attached to the bottom of the sign case. A "ONE WAY" sign was once in use, but is no longer in service. Interesting find. I'll have to see this for myself one day.
Quote from: M3019C LPS20 on April 10, 2013, 09:12:59 PM
According to Google Map, as of 2011, this vintage "humpback" porcelain street sign still remains intact. It is located in downtown, Brooklyn, New York, and everything is still original. It is perhaps the only survivor in the entire city.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1013.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf258%2FSteven197981%2F78-1_zps0381e6f3.jpg&hash=9335979ecbdcb3e3b298995f8b235abcbcc6e6f1)
The only alteration to the sign itself is that the city painted over Hudson Ave., which is apparently a driveway nowadays. Also note the additional two brackets that are attached to the bottom of the sign case. A "ONE WAY" sign was once in use, but is no longer in service. Interesting find. I'll have to see this for myself one day.
http://goo.gl/maps/Ait1s Near the Brooklyn Bridge. Race you.
For me, New York City is not exactly around the corner as it once was. But, hey, if you could make it to Brooklyn and see if this street sign still exists, then let me know. :nod:
I know I will not be there anytime soon.
Quote from: amroad17 on April 07, 2013, 04:03:37 AM
Is the one out on Conduit Blvd near JFK still there?
are there
any overhead white signs? I remember some in the 80s, but even by the 90s they were very rare.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 10, 2013, 08:29:56 PM
Taken this afternoon (4/10/13) in Cincinnati:
[photo]
Getting lost in a bad neighborhood had an unexpected perk.
good to know that is still there!
here is a photo from 2001 or so, when it had more red:
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I spotted it in 2006 but did not get a photo late at night - tried finding it in 2009 and assumed it was gone but it turns out I did not look in the right place.
the narrow OHIO implies this is a City of Cincinnati install. the state always used Series F, with the perfectly circular "O".
There are a bunch of city-installed I-75 (and I-71) signs on various streets in Cincinnati, both fairly new and very faded.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
There are a bunch of city-installed I-75 (and I-71) signs on various streets in Cincinnati, both fairly new and very faded.
any others with the state name?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 11, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
There are a bunch of city-installed I-75 (and I-71) signs on various streets in Cincinnati, both fairly new and very faded.
any others with the state name?
None that I saw, or I'd have been all over them.
A classic "ONE WAY" arrow sign from Brooklyn, New York. Near Prospect Park (what the photographer claims). Appears rather faded.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1013.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf258%2FSteven197981%2F7178420423_8b140f3bce_o_zps7fe4bd72.jpg&hash=2b2bf22ef2eb9dd90f60677e470957f67f90e77c) (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/Steven197981/media/7178420423_8b140f3bce_o_zps7fe4bd72.jpg.html)
There were several different kinds that were in use over the years throughout the city, and this one in particular was introduced in the 1950s. It was discontinued in the 1960s when the last version, which is still in use nowadays, first appeared in the picture. Nevertheless, this kind is my favorite from the city.
It's 1959. You've built a full-scale model of the secret A-12 aircraft (ancestor of the SR-71) at Lockheed's Skunk Works in Burbank, CA. You need to transport it to, of all places, Area 51 in Nevada for study. You'll make repeated trips over the next few years with the first functional A-12 models for flight tests. Oh, and you need to do this as clandestinely as possible.
How?
Take it apart and pack into several large containers; take a convoy of wide-load trucks on US 99 over the Grapevine; then 138, US 6 and US 466 across the Mojave; and hang a left at CA 127 in Baker.
Photos (including route map, convoy directions, old signs, and obstacles along the way) and story are here: http://www.roadrunnersinternationale.com/transporting_the_a-12.html
Quote from: kurumi on April 25, 2013, 05:33:14 PM
http://www.roadrunnersinternationale.com/transporting_the_a-12.html
now that is truly awesome!
QuoteThe bus driver was paid cash to have the bus repairs done without any resultant attention to the details.
"gee mister, I'm sorry about your large, nondescript crate."
"think nothing of it."
"I'll have to call my insurance company to get them to fix your large, nondescript crate."
"no, really. think nothing of it. go fix your bus; here's 75000 dollars in well-worn 5s and 10s. now
think nothing of it, ya hear?"
QuoteCorrection: This photo was taken at the intersection of US 466 and California Highway 58 just East of Barstow
The truck is going against traffic because the other lane goes under a narrow underpass
looks to me like this is actually the 466/91 split. 58 was not a number then - and besides, 58 would have been 466. 91 may have been signed as I-15, though, at the time.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 25, 2013, 06:21:20 PM
Quote from: kurumi on April 25, 2013, 05:33:14 PM
http://www.roadrunnersinternationale.com/transporting_the_a-12.html
now that is truly awesome!
QuoteThe bus driver was paid cash to have the bus repairs done without any resultant attention to the details.
"gee mister, I'm sorry about your large, nondescript crate."
"think nothing of it."
"I'll have to call my insurance company to get them to fix your large, nondescript crate."
"no, really. think nothing of it. go fix your bus; here's 75000 dollars in well-worn 5s and 10s. now think nothing of it, ya hear?"
QuoteCorrection: This photo was taken at the intersection of US 466 and California Highway 58 just East of Barstow
The truck is going against traffic because the other lane goes under a narrow underpass
looks to me like this is actually the 466/91 split. 58 was not a number then - and besides, 58 would have been 466. 91 may have been signed as I-15, though, at the time.
Yeah, the original 91-466 junction in Barstow would have been city streets across the river north of downtown. It's been so long since then that the original old U.S. 91-466 is called "Old Highway 58', and 58 has been rerouted to intersect I-15 west of Barstow. This looks like the original I-15 signage. It isn't 100 percent accurate to say that 58 was not a number then, since it was the LRN for U.S. 466 (a rare example of LRNs that became post-1964 route numbers).
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette did an archival photo feature on Liberty Ave. today
PA "ROUTE" 80 Cutout in 1936 - and appears to be a second one above the traffic light at the Western Auto
http://24.media.tumblr.com/8962f591cf914d92b08a4c39e4fdb200/tumblr_mll1vd2nTU1rr5swxo4_r1_1280.jpg
and from 1977 - PA 380:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/e77d8bf5640a46917ceff6f9c6484f93/tumblr_mll1vd2nTU1rr5swxo3_r1_1280.jpg
ROUTE was changed to PENNA in 1940 to match the new Turnpike shields.
Great old PA Turnpike Guide Sign on the Post-Gazette site today:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/458044bc7cfcbc1e364b88e35aea0ddc/tumblr_mnj1iqiVzN1rr5swxo1_1280.jpg
Quote from: M3019C LPS20 on April 04, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
Classic black and white highway signs at exit 28B on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway in New York City. Circa 1966.
I recall these were common to see on other highways, like the former elevated West Side Hwy. and Belt Pkwy.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1013.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf258%2FSteven197981%2F65675033340_002162_zps3d8c13ed.jpg&hash=5a8cc96f48a3a8736d18701b0b2a5914dd381115)
I still remember some evidence of one of those signs on West Alley Road and Douglaston Parkway back in the 1990's.
1953: http://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/105085
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Quote from: kurumi on April 25, 2013, 05:33:14 PM
It's 1959. You've built a full-scale model of the secret A-12 aircraft (ancestor of the SR-71) at Lockheed's Skunk Works in Burbank, CA. You need to transport it to, of all places, Area 51 in Nevada for study. You'll make repeated trips over the next few years with the first functional A-12 models for flight tests. Oh, and you need to do this as clandestinely as possible.
How?
Take it apart and pack into several large containers; take a convoy of wide-load trucks on US 99 over the Grapevine; then 138, US 6 and US 466 across the Mojave; and hang a left at CA 127 in Baker.
Photos (including route map, convoy directions, old signs, and obstacles along the way) and story are here: http://www.roadrunnersinternationale.com/transporting_the_a-12.html
Very cool indeed. The Highway 99 photo with two bridges is under Pyramid Lake today. There is a photo identified as "Mojave", it is actually the north end of San Fernando showing Truman St (LT) and San Fernando Road (RT) splitting, looking southbound.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 29, 2013, 06:18:38 PM
I still remember some evidence of one of those signs on West Alley Road and Douglaston Parkway back in the 1990's.
I went and checked that out in 2006. the white signs were gone (replaced with retroreflective green), but the original gantry was still there.
Someone posted this on /r/InfrastructurePorn earlier, and I thought some people here might appreciate it:
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Ceramic signs embedded in bridge abutments. No location given.
I believe that bridge is on former RI-84 (now an unnumbered extension of CT-184), right at the CT state line. Though in RI, it can only be accesed from the CT side of the border.
Most concrete bridges in RI have those ceramic tile markers on them.
Quote from: Beeper1 on June 12, 2013, 11:36:03 PM
I believe that bridge is on former RI-84 (now an unnumbered extension of CT-184), right at the CT state line. Though in RI, it can only be accesed from the CT side of the border.
Most concrete bridges in RI have those ceramic tile markers on them.
Indeed, you nailed it. www.alpsroads.net/roads/ct/ct_184/
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Verona (2013) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/9063535796/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Still around as of May 2013
Quote from: Hellfighter on August 27, 2009, 11:30:34 PM
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I remember well when I-75 had that drawbridge (with traffic lights, too). :coffee:
Removed duplicate quote. - rmf67
Photo of an old 'SLOW' warning sign on Woodville Ave. in Pittsburgh from 1959.
http://pgdigs.tumblr.com/post/53748128468/july-23-1959-the-battle-of-chicken-hill-one
this is at the PA 51/US 19 interchange with I-376 on the suburbs side of the Ft. Pitt Tunnels. These SLOW signs are still found every now and then.
Found these slides on ebay some time ago.
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^^ That last one is very interesting. Instead of the standard "WEST {30}", it's a bit more descriptive. Gotta wonder about the reason why it is more descriptive.
Quote from: luokou on July 01, 2013, 12:00:57 PM
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Interesting finds, especially this last one. Any idea where it was located?
^^ Haven't any idea. The only way to find out is if that building on the right still exists (and also where Jay Shropshire lived).
the 30 is from Iowa.
I have a gut feeling it's near Scappoose, OR.
Old style guide sign North Carolina used on overpasses.
This is located on old US 311 (Main St.) at Business I-85 in High Point.
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IMG_7807 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/9189810664/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
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IMG_7809 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/9187010835/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
I know of two others still in place.
In Raleigh - a sign for Cameron Village on Peace St.
And on US 64 - a sign for NC 226
There used to be one on I-95 for NC 50, but that was removed about a decade ago when they rebuilt the interchange and overpass.
neat...The only other I-95 one to make it to the 1990s was at US 701. But they were quite prevalent in the 1970s.
NC 50-242 was also the last I-95 BGS to have the shields with the cutout design with the interlocked NC at the top, which made it into the 1980s.
Mapmikey
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 02, 2013, 10:29:10 AM
neat...The only other I-95 one to make it to the 1990s was at US 701. But they were quite prevalent in the 1970s.
NC 50-242 was also the last I-95 BGS to have the shields with the cutout design with the interlocked NC at the top, which made it into the 1980s.
Mapmikey
On older interstate or freeway overpasses - you can see the outline of the overall guide sign.
I didn't know NC used the interlocking cutout shields on guide signs. Too bad there are not any photos of such. I know they used outlined cutouts for US routes - with nearly all of them gone today.
http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/oldsigns/us176exit.jpg - Taken in January 2000 (long gone)
http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/oldsigns/old29bgs.jpg - taken in May 2000 (lasted maybe another year)
http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/oldsigns/oldus2970220.jpg - August 2000 - replaced
http://www.state-ends.com/ncends/state/157.html bottom photo - long gone.
This may still be around:
http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/oldsigns/bus74shield.jpg - this was taken in 2000 - I know that others have taken a photo of this since.
This US 70 outline cutout still shows in 2012 GMSV - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=asheville,+nc&hl=en&ll=35.595658,-82.569723&spn=0.030674,0.066047&sll=35.922525,-78.457403&sspn=0.007672,0.016512&t=h&hnear=Asheville,+Buncombe,+North+Carolina&z=15&layer=c&cbll=35.595599,-82.569662&panoid=LUJosbl7ieR1ZS4iKbXrQQ&cbp=12,141.19,,1,-14.97
The US 74 cutout is in the Apr 2012 GMSV - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=waco,+NC&hl=en&ll=35.249965,-81.402855&spn=0.123223,0.264187&sll=35.268467,-81.455898&sspn=0.123195,0.264187&t=h&hnear=Waco,+Cleveland,+North+Carolina&z=13&layer=c&cbll=35.250453,-81.402093&panoid=ynSMILao5bKY9WZHusK-pA&cbp=12,225,,0,0
While the Durham assembly you have linked is gone, this is still around - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=durham,+NC&hl=en&ll=36.011096,-78.886471&spn=0.030514,0.066047&sll=35.250386,-81.402168&sspn=0.123783,0.264187&t=h&hnear=Durham,+North+Carolina&z=15&layer=c&cbll=36.010995,-78.886454&panoid=XgAUcY2zf-4UT55BuSFL_A&cbp=12,16.47,,1,3.22
Mapmikey
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 02, 2013, 01:03:24 PM
While the Durham assembly you have linked is gone, this is still around - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=durham,+NC&hl=en&ll=36.011096,-78.886471&spn=0.030514,0.066047&sll=35.250386,-81.402168&sspn=0.123783,0.264187&t=h&hnear=Durham,+North+Carolina&z=15&layer=c&cbll=36.010995,-78.886454&panoid=XgAUcY2zf-4UT55BuSFL_A&cbp=12,16.47,,1,3.22
Yeah I have that one:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm5.staticflickr.com%2F4142%2F4802772552_4817f8e761.jpg&hash=fbd5ff548433ce06b4c3edb71bfe668f413c3444) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/4802772552/)
Old Junction I-85, US 15, and US 70 shields (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/4802772552/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Quote from: luokou on July 01, 2013, 12:00:57 PM
Found these slides on ebay some time ago.
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That US 101 or one like it is on the bay now.....past 400 already!
A 1940s or 1950s railroad crossbuck sign pair on what was SC 905 until new bridge into Conway was built in 1962...
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Conway,+SC&hl=en&ll=33.836665,-79.041824&spn=0.021495,0.038581&sll=36.499839,-80.605702&sspn=0.010401,0.01929&oq=conway&t=h&hnear=Conway,+Horry,+South+Carolina&z=15&layer=c&cbll=33.836717,-79.041769&panoid=QPX4Bay5TBKd-m0_Er7NRw&cbp=12,237.49,,0,7.91
Mapmikey
One-way sign in Cleveland with a classic Ohio tapered arrow:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3340_zps317caf7b.jpg&hash=db904281c44741770e8a5725d6dfdc4617e82606) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3340_zps317caf7b.jpg.html)
Great shot of the Point in Pittsburgh around 1967-68. Though the signs aren't completely legible - near the bottom left hand corner you can see the blank button copy overheads for the North Shore Exit (PA 65) continuation of then I-79 over the Allegheny River.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f44f04e706cb267ab537332c5bab609e/tumblr_mq7atdYu5i1rr5swxo2_r1_1280.jpg
Leaving blank overhead guide signs was somewhat common in PA in that period - most likely all of them are gone now but I do recall one at I-79 North ramp to US 19 North for the never built ramp to Thorn Hill Road.
ConnDOT doesn't feel the need to replace a couple of BGS' near me, along Corbin Avenue in New Britain, at the junction of the CT Route 72 expressway:
Looking northbound on Corbin Avenue (CT Route 372 West)
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Also northbound on Corbin Avenue
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A plain and simple Connecticut municipal boundary/town line sign, along CT Route 372 West. The bridge for I-84 West is in the background.
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http://archive.org/details/annualreportsofs1924mary
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holy crap federal route http://archive.org/details/reportofstateroa1927mary
Not exactly on the Internet, but I found these at the Route 66 Festival this past weekend.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1003039_10201110672001369_1313041255_n.jpg)
This last one is a photograph of a photograph from 1951
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Sweet, Arizona directional colors.
I wonder if any of those black Maryland guide signs are still around? probably not, as they are wood and likely to have rotted away. New Jersey's cast iron signs of the same vintage survive because they are restored and put back into circulation all the time.
OPTIONAL US 66. Now I have my new favorite route designation.
Took this one a few weeks ago and posted it on another thread:
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It's in Milwaukee on N. 91st St. approaching Appleton Av going south.
It's really good to see old signs in this post.
Saw this one on my recent vacation...it is embossed.
Just of NY 18 Wilson, NY
http://goo.gl/maps/uWN4E
Mapmikey
These oldies but goodies are still standing in Haysi, Va.
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^ You are too old if you remember...shoot, never mind. :D
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from http://books.google.com/books?id=nqlBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1033
the figure 4 in lower right shows that 4 is following 26.
I have evidence that Wisconsin may have used a similar system.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/WI/WI19190111i1.jpg)
possibly Minnesota did as well.
I have no idea if, in these other cases, the meaning of the smaller tabs was the same or not, but it seems plausible.
I think that's showing that 11 continues straight, while 35 and 54 turn left (all three happen to overlap behind, but this style may have been used even if they didn't). The sign was probably in Galesville on Main at Gale (11 is now US 53; 54 is off to the south on a bypass and 35 is way to the south on a road closer to the Mississippi).
you may very well be right.
the fact that we're having this conversation shows that the signage is a failure.
The style at the intersection was probably no clearer: http://www.dajensen-family.com/roads/nearroads.html
Most likely official maps described how the signs worked, like this one from NC:
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from http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/ncmaps/id/5114/rec/18
I have seen that post in Baraboo... indeed, very unintuitive.
still there as of 2010.
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from http://books.google.com/books?id=czs5AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA27
This doesn't seem to have been on SH 88, unless that route was renumbered in 1923 or 1924. Based on mileage, the sign was on SH 1 (US 85) in Monument.
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from http://books.google.com/books?id=x60yAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA6
Quote from: NE2 on October 07, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
This doesn't seem to have been on SH 88, unless that route was renumbered in 1923 or 1924. Based on mileage, the sign was on SH 1 (US 85) in Monument.
that sign is captioned as a sample, and may not have been intended to be destination-accurate. there are certain differences between it, and all surviving examples I have seen, as well as all other field photos.
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* seals at top, as opposed to bottom
* black text instead of white in seals (bad use of tincture, right JN Winkler?)
* arrow without feathers
* Rocky Mountain Motorists Inc. instead of Mountain States Auto Association, with slightly different rendering of the mountain design.
* destinations not centered, but rather justified left and right
Oregon, 1920:
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from http://books.google.com/books?id=sz0lAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA37
Quote from: CanesFan27 on May 29, 2013, 09:08:46 AM
Great old PA Turnpike Guide Sign on the Post-Gazette site today:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/458044bc7cfcbc1e364b88e35aea0ddc/tumblr_mnj1iqiVzN1rr5swxo1_1280.jpg
I missed this N months ago, so I am gonna necro the post.
that route shield appears to be the earliest one I've ever seen of the shape that we would now refer to as "1970 spec". Pennsylvania had it around by 1965, as a black square, and it looks like it was around even earlier. the photo is 1957-63 based on the license plates.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 17, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: CanesFan27 on May 29, 2013, 09:08:46 AM
Great old PA Turnpike Guide Sign on the Post-Gazette site today:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/458044bc7cfcbc1e364b88e35aea0ddc/tumblr_mnj1iqiVzN1rr5swxo1_1280.jpg
I missed this N months ago, so I am gonna necro the post.
that route shield appears to be the earliest one I've ever seen of the shape that we would now refer to as "1970 spec". Pennsylvania had it around by 1965, as a black square, and it looks like it was around even earlier. the photo is 1957-63 based on the license plates.
Most likely pre-1960. I have somewhere in the house a 1960 PTC annual report type brochure that talked about new signing going up on the turnpike. I'll have to dig that out one day.
the fonts do not quite appear to be Pennsylvania DOT's approximation of Highway Gothic - the 2s aren't quite as exaggerated, for example.
the newest car seems to be maybe a '55 Chevy. right lane, heading away from viewer, second-nearest car to observer. the two coming towards viewer, nearest, riding almost parallel, seem to be earlier styles.
Jeremy or anyone with car expertise want to take a closer look?
1955 looks to be about right, give or take a year; most of the vehicles (not sure about the truck) appear to be late-1940s to early/mid-1950s. No major fins on the back of the vehicles, which was a five-year design fad from the mid-1950s to 1959-60. Of course, not everyone is going to be driving the latest model.
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from http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/bb/id/29703 (p. 256)
'DANGER STATE ROAD'? What the hell kind of sign is that? I like the design of the CAUTION ZONE sign.
Quote from: Zeffy on December 10, 2013, 12:53:24 AM
'DANGER STATE ROAD'? What the hell kind of sign is that?
Probably posted on an intersecting local road.
Quote from: NE2 on March 29, 2013, 10:27:37 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 29, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
From just north of Logan Airport back in the day. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/3682412072/sizes/o/in/set-72157620726678645/) I think the US 1 shield covers a C-1 shield?
Probably; this went from C1 to US 1 to 1A. But the choice of control cities is a bit weird, since both are off to the right on 1A in a couple miles.
That gantry and signs were there until 1977, when all but one now-gone viaduct (that served the MBTA's original Blue Line Airport Station) were completely redecked. The US 1 shields (along w/the covered MA C1 shields) were indeed replaced w/MA 1A shields w/trailblazer-style direction cardinals placed above the shields circa 1975.
It's worth noting that gantry is older than those old BGS'. One old 1949 pic. showing the northbound approach to the airport exit ramp has a similar style gantry with destinations & directions; the lmits of the signs do not extend beyond the gantry bridge.
1949 pic. of then-MA C1 North approaching Logan Airport
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mit-libraries/3440955293/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mit-libraries/3440955293/)
The use of
LYNN as a destination despite one needing to change routes at Bell Circle, prior to 1975, was not unusal DPW signing practice back then. It was very common to list a destination that was near but not along the listed route. Since Lynn is a city, and only a few miles from Bell Circle; listing it as a destination from the airport seemed appropriate regardless of whether it was along the same route or not. Another example of such was further north at the Wonderland rotary, there was a mid-60s Paddle LGS that actually listed
MARBLEHEAD as a 1A destination even though MA 1A never went through it. I would love to see an old pic of that LGS.
Those BGS' likely date back to either the late 50s or early 60s so they also predate any plans for a Relocated I-95 concept that would have made what is now known as the Ted Williams Tunnel part of I-95 instead of I-90 and diverged from the East Boston Expressway (current MA 1A). I only state this in case someone speculates that the Relocated I-95 proposal was the reasoning behind the DPW's listing of Lynn as a C1/1 destiantion; it clearly wasn't given the vintage of those old signs.
From deathtopumpkins' earlier post:
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The MA 1A North pull-through BGS is of 1977-vintage and was indeed the BGS that replaced the old
C1/1/NORTH 1A REVERE LYNN sign. The original 1977 exit BGS for MA 145, that was obviously replaced in the above-photo, listed Chelsea & Winthrop as its destinations and was the first time Chelsea was listed for that exit. The old BGS at the exit itself, from PurdueBill's link (great find BTW) which is somewhat blurred, listed Orient Heights & Winthrop as destinations.
At the bottom of the now-gone exit ramp to the Callahan Tunnel from the southbound Central Artery, 1974-1975-vintage diagrammatic BGS' along with BGS for the northbound Artery (note the
TO 93 NORTH reference) and the Callahan Tunnel BGS. The original 1974-75 steel BGS for the Callahan Tunnel featured the same exact message as the newer BGS pictured sans the yellow clearance tab at the bottom and a US 1 shield. Needless to say, the shield was replaced with a MA 1A shield roughly a year later.
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Up-close and personal shot of some old Artery/Expressway BGS' just north of the Mass Ave. interchange (the MDC car is either a '71 or '72 Ford Custom. Note: the '71-'73 Cadillac in the background).
(https://publish.comcast.net/rpath/0lIDcewpu-mvVaXuJgvTILh_qwykRIbIDVEUfHQY4oyfnjIA0dv_oI3cUmXX3meayzt2i1CNjR-fIyAM1QmtGRwFQXPQZO8AhxbYkDoLpse-avzkKKFoYZcm6zeN9-PF/)
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This isn't the best photo, but I recently got this 1961 MUTCD US 6 sign from an antique store in Cottonwood, Arizona (which was coincidentally along old US 89A). I don't know what part of US 6 it would have been on though, let alone if it even was on US 6 to begin with.
To me, that looks like a New York US 6 sign.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 10, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
To me, that looks like a New York US 6 sign.
I've seen similar in Illinois. It could be anywhere from Nevada to Mass.
Quote from: Brandon on December 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 10, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
To me, that looks like a New York US 6 sign.
I've seen similar in Illinois. It could be anywhere from Nevada to Mass.
So I'm guessing there's no way to know where this sign came from then?
Quote from: 707 on December 10, 2013, 10:10:41 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 10, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
To me, that looks like a New York US 6 sign.
I've seen similar in Illinois. It could be anywhere from Nevada to Mass.
So I'm guessing there's no way to know where this sign came from then?
Not without seeing if it has a sticker on the back placed there by the state's DOT.
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This was well before the reconfiguration. This may have been taken in the 80's.
Another example of I-79 signed through Pittsburgh.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/7b506e82302179a80a66710922e65282/tumblr_mxpsrlG6D41rr5swxo4_1280.jpg
From 1964. I dig the 'Point Exit' sign.
Now if we can locate photos of I-70 being signed through Pittsburgh and I-70S, we'd be set.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on December 13, 2013, 10:26:22 AM
Another example of I-79 signed through Pittsburgh.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/7b506e82302179a80a66710922e65282/tumblr_mxpsrlG6D41rr5swxo4_1280.jpg
From 1964. I dig the 'Point Exit' sign.
Now if we can locate photos of I-70 being signed through Pittsburgh and I-70S, we'd be set.
Nice.
By my estimation, this was the LAST button copy sign on I-10 in El Paso.
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It was replaced in 2012, with clearview signage. Here is is rolling in on a contractor's truck.
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The construction site in the foreground is an unrelated private commercial building.
Quote from: CanesFan27 on December 13, 2013, 10:26:22 AM
Another example of I-79 signed through Pittsburgh.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/7b506e82302179a80a66710922e65282/tumblr_mxpsrlG6D41rr5swxo4_1280.jpg
From 1964. I dig the 'Point Exit' sign.
Now if we can locate photos of I-70 being signed through Pittsburgh and I-70S, we'd be set.
I still want to see a sign for I-479 (1966 - 1971) or I-876 (1971 - 1972) along what is now I-579. Those two plus I-70/I-70S, then we'd be set. ;)
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on December 17, 2013, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: CanesFan27 on December 13, 2013, 10:26:22 AM
Another example of I-79 signed through Pittsburgh.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/7b506e82302179a80a66710922e65282/tumblr_mxpsrlG6D41rr5swxo4_1280.jpg
From 1964. I dig the 'Point Exit' sign.
Now if we can locate photos of I-70 being signed through Pittsburgh and I-70S, we'd be set.
I still want to see a sign for I-479 (1966 - 1971) or I-876 (1971 - 1972) along what is now I-579. Those two plus I-70/I-70S, then we'd be set. ;)
So why aren't you looking for them?
From the Blizzard of '78:
Canton, MA; I-93 Southbound (old 128 Northbound) approaching I-95. Note the then-1-year-old BGS' in the distant background and the back of an I-93 shield in the foreground:
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These were the first BGS' to show the I-95/93 reroute onto 128.
BGS' read:
95 NORTH
Dedham
NH-Maine
(with 2 downward arrows)
EXIT 62
R.R. Station
University Ave.
1 MILE
EXIT 63
95 SOUTH
Providence (with 45-degree angled right arrow)
Canton, again; I-93 North (old 128 South) approaching the MA 138 North exit ramp (current Exit 2B, then Exit 64N). BGS is from the early 70s:
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Entrance ramp to I-90/Mass Pike Boston Extension (I believe from Mass Ave.):
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I-95 Northbound in Pawtucket, RI
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Quote from: PHLBOS on December 18, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
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on the left post, I see a TO banner, a 57-spec I-90 shield, a downward hooked arrow, and a fourth sign which I do not recognize. what is it?
also, does the TO imply that the Boston Extension was not I-90 at the time? or was it just a masso?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 18, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on December 18, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
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on the left post, I see a TO banner, a 57-spec I-90 shield, a downward hooked arrow, and a fourth sign which I do not recognize. what is it?
also, does the TO imply that the Boston Extension was not I-90 at the time? or was it just a masso?
Originally, the I-90 designation was only supposed to go as far as Allston/Brighton/Cambridge (Exit 18-20) or where the Inner Belt (I-695) would've interchanged w/it. The designation was extended to the Artery/Expressway sometime in the early-to-mid 70s (when I-695 was canned for good & the Third Harbor (now Ted Williams) Tunnel was first proposed) and before that pic was taken. That
TO banner was a hold-over from the earlier-eastern terminus of I-90 era.
All of the original Boston Extension BGS' did not include any I-90 shields mounted on them; including the original eastbound pull-through BGS before the Weston (I-95/MA 128) toll plaza.
IIRC, the first BGSes to show the I-95 re-route onto MA 128 were actually the entrance signs from the Goodwin Rotary to I-95/128 SB in Lynnfield. The ramp was completed in mid to late 1975, which was just after MassDPW had just started implementing the designation change on signs (until the Legislature put a halt to the work).
Quote from: roadman on December 18, 2013, 06:48:21 PM
IIRC, the first BGSes to show the I-95 re-route onto MA 128 were actually the entrance signs from the Goodwin Rotary to I-95/128 SB in Lynnfield. The ramp was completed in mid to late 1975, which was just after MassDPW had just started implementing the designation change on signs (until the Legislature put a halt to the work).
I know exactly the BGS' you're referring to. The ones for I-95 south originally had just I-95 shields but the DPW added MA 128 shields (by moving the I-95 shields to the left) later on.
Personally, I believe those particular BGS (& even the ramp to I-95 South) are 2 years newer than that. The reasons being:
1. Along MA 129 between Goodwin's Circle & the US 1 interchange; there was a paddle LGS
dated 1976 that listed
TO ROUTE 128 NORTH & SOUTH NEXT RIGHT, the next right being the ramp for US 1 North. Prior to that ramp being built; this was how the DPW directed those seeking to get on MA 128 South from MA 129 West. Despite it being redundant/obsolete shortly after it was erected, this LGS lingered until the mid-to-late 1980s.
2. The more modern, steel, ground-mounted BGS' along MA 128 for the US 1 interchange that were erected in 1976-77 made no reference of the I-95 re-route onto MA 128. The older, 1962-era overhead-mounted BGS' for that interchange (excluding the ones from the Goodwin's Circle) lingered on until 1982 when the DPW replaced
all of the BGS'/LGS' for that interchange. While the fore-mentioned BGS for the US 1 interchange included I-95 shields. It contained no
NORTH cardinal reference.
Southbound 128 BGS' for US 1 (then Exit 30)
EXIT 30
TO 1 95
Boston
NH-MaineNorthbound 128 BGS' for US 1:
1 95
Boston
NH-Maine
NEXT EXITS
---------------
EXIT 30S
1
Boston
-----------
EXIT 30N
TO 1 95
NH-Maine(note: one can get to US 1 South from this exit if one misses the earlier exit for US 1 South)
3. During the mid-70s, my family would use this interchange to head to/from
Augustine's Restaurant along US 1 North/MA 129 East quite frequently (once a month) and my first observation of those then-new overhead BGS listing 128 South as just I-95 South was at least a year
after the fore-mentioned BGS' for the US 1 interchange were erected.
4. My family moved to what is now my mother's present house in May of 1976 and there were no modern steel BGS' along MA 128 between Stoneham (MA 28) and at least Beverly at that time.
I would've remembered seeing that overhead-mounted BGS for I-95 South from the YDH quite vividly if it was erected in 1975 (when my family was living at our previous house). It would've been the only like-typed BGS for that entire interchange back then.
5. LGS' listing 128 as I-95 between US 1 and North Ave. first appeared circa 1976-77. One remaining example of such (lower LGS) is in Wakefield at the Salem St./Montrose Ave. intersection (this one I believe is dated 1977).
http://goo.gl/maps/TZcWC (http://goo.gl/maps/TZcWC)
At the Connecticut Historical Society: photo looking north on I-91, circa 1965, where a blank spot on the BGS is reserved for the (not yet open to traffic) I-84 westbound: http://emuseum.chs.org:8080/emuseum/view/objects/asitem/id/2134
Taken October 2009 in Hope, AR:
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IMG_1026 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/4022832910/) by Adam's Journey (http://www.flickr.com/people/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Quote from: hbelkins on December 10, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
To me, that looks like a New York US 6 sign.
tough to tell. every state on US-6 except MA, PA, OH, NE, and CA used a bog-standard '61 spec. Nevada may have done theirs only in steel. I know UT, CO, IA, IL, IN, NY, CT, RI all used aluminum with silver scotchlite and a '61 spec shield.
U.S. 41 shield assembly in Brooksville: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6637319585/in/set-72157628197681743
Black and white mileage sign - Brooksville: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6636999289/in/set-72157628197681743
Black and white mileage sign with Ft. Myers - Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6637319835/in/set-72157628197681743
Outline shield for US 98 in Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6638952291/in/set-72157628197681743
One-piece four-way signal in Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6421685575/in/set-72157628197681743
Cutout and Keys shield - Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6594695395/in/set-72157628197681743
Colored U.S. 41 shield and SR 45 keys shield - Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6744796045/in/set-72157628197681743
US highway cutouts - Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6638854281/in/set-72157628197681743
Quote from: Alex on February 25, 2014, 10:15:14 AM
Outline shield for US 98 in Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6638952291/in/set-72157628197681743
this actually appears to have a light-colored background. thus I believe it's an example of the
first Florida color scheme of c. 1952. alas, every photo I've seen of this scheme has been in black and white, so I have no idea what the colors are.
other examples I've seen include:
* 1952 dated 98 with medium background (dark yellow? orange?)
* 1955 dated photo showing FL 50 on very dark background (blue?) and US 17-92 on what appear to be similarly shaded medium background (red and green? both the same?) all are white outline shields on dark-color background. FL-527 appears to be black on white.
* 1956 dated photo of 17/92, again reverse-video outline shield, appearing to be the same background color (red or green?)
* 1957 dated photo of dark-background signs (black? dark green?) with a colored 27 (1956 green?) with a white number, as well as two 60 white outline shields.
* undated photo with a 41 shield. white square with a light-colored (yellow?) shield which has a black border
inside of the yellow margin and a black solid number 41
This one is making the rounds today on the various Streetsblog sites:
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No year is given, and the only credit is to "Strong Towns."
looks to me to be a 59-66 Montana license plate, unless the exempt ones were white with black text for a different range of years.
Found this on Flickr...
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you can get there from here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38250858@N04/6859680787/) by Casa de Dogpoop (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38250858@N04/) on Flickr
awesome gantry! looks like steel shields bolted onto wooden guide signs. the 24s are fully embossed; the 67s have printed numbers.
I wonder why Cripple Creek and Sedalia are underlined on the left sign.
Is it for the same reason that there was a divider line on later CO signs (destination below the line reached by another highway along the way)?
Quote from: Alex on February 25, 2014, 10:15:14 AM
Colored U.S. 41 shield and SR 45 keys shield - Brooksville:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghs1922/6744796045/in/set-72157628197681743
Versus today :(
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.554885,-82.38785,3a,75y,31.53h,71.03t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1slPxfxaFQQQNJG5jUyk1gkA!2e0
It's good to know Main Street was indeed signed as (a leg of) FL 45.
Interesting that they didn't sign SR 45 left, right, and straight. I guess by then they had decided not to sign carrier routes.
(No, SR 50 was not here when Broad was two-way; instead it was on Jefferson. As was US 98.)
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Here is an old Ring Road 5 sign from the late 60s-early 70s, possibly around the Parramatta area in western Sydney, which I found on Tumblr.
Ring Road 5 was one of the three Ring Roads (http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/Ring%20Roads/ringroads.htm) introduced in 1964 to help motorists navigate around Sydney. The routes 1, 3 and 5 were later superseded by the new State Route system in 1974, replaced by SR11, 33 and 55 respectively. SR 11 was decommissioned in 1993, SR33 was replaced by Metroad 3 in 1993 and A3 in 2013, while SR55 was decommissioned in 2004.
Not exactly very old (I'm probably older) but http://www.sptimes.com/2004/09/24/Southpinellas/Elevation_On_signs__i.shtml
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Construction of Interstate 80 (http://historicomaha.com/I80Phtos.htm)
A handful of photos of Interstate construction in the Omaha area. H/T Matt of twcclassics.com
Where are the I-71s? I have found a few 75s, but not a 71.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 11, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
There are a bunch of city-installed I-75 (and I-71) signs on various streets in Cincinnati, both fairly new and very faded.
any others with the state name?
Quote from: florida on March 08, 2014, 03:39:44 AM
Versus today :(
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.554885,-82.38785,3a,75y,31.53h,71.03t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1slPxfxaFQQQNJG5jUyk1gkA!2e0
I've never seen a UPS van with a trailer attached like so.
Quote from: jake on May 06, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
I've never seen a UPS van with a trailer attached like so.
I've seen plenty of those.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 07, 2014, 12:17:11 AM
Quote from: jake on May 06, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
I've never seen a UPS van with a trailer attached like so.
I've seen plenty of those.
I guess we don't have them in the NW US.
Quote from: DevalDragon on May 06, 2014, 11:13:29 PM
Where are the I-71s? I have found a few 75s, but not a 71.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 11, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
There are a bunch of city-installed I-75 (and I-71) signs on various streets in Cincinnati, both fairly new and very faded.
any others with the state name?
There are no I-71 Ohio shields left. Outside of the I-75's in Lockland, there is just the one for I-70 in Columbus (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OH19610701).
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 17, 2012, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 17, 2012, 10:43:16 AM
You got chased out of town for taking a picture of a sign?
not quite.
I was stopped in the middle of an intersection which had US-24, I-70, and KS-25 signs; my foot on the brake, with the camera resting on the steering wheel for a medium-long exposure shot. absolutely no traffic, except when I moved along, a few seconds later, the sheriff (who had been, apparently, a block or three away with his lights off) pulled me over and asked me just what I had been doing stopped in the middle of the intersection like that.
I told him that I had gotten disoriented and had been comparing the signs to my map. I quickly asked for directions back to I-70, and he told me to take 25 south. to make sure that I did, he followed me.
it was a reasonable response on his part; it wasn't anywhere near I was "chased out of town", as much as I was lucky to not get a ticket.
That is a clue of impairment. He may have thought you were DUI.
Digging up this perfectly peaceful, at-rest thread for an New England Interstate Route 3 reference I haven't seen before:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trbimg.com%2Fimg-53ad8060%2Fturbine%2Fhc-connecticut-historical-society-20140627-001%2F960%2F960x287&hash=9919f7761b03b654104e0262f273d3248f94a857)
Link at Hartford Courant (http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/courant-250/moments-in-history/hc-connecticut-historical-society-20140627-001,0,6913957.photo), but with not much additional info.
170,000 photographs online at Yale, taken from 1935 to 1945 by the U.S. Farm Security Administration and Office of War Information (FSA-OWI), searchable: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/search/
You can search by... let's say, highway sign. And find things like this:
* US 40 at CO 14: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa2000046428/PP
* US 95 at ID 12: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa2000021220/PP
* a rural-looking City Route [US] 12 in Chicago: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1997010999/PP
* US 77/81/84 and TX 67, Waco (think we've seen this elsewhere): http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1998000011/PP
There's more, and a bunch of non-highway stuff.
And talk about your Sign Salad, as discussed in another post:
http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1997017034/PP
Quote from: kurumi on September 04, 2014, 12:04:03 AM
170,000 photographs online at Yale, taken from 1935 to 1945 by the U.S. Farm Security Administration and Office of War Information (FSA-OWI), searchable: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/search/
You can search by... let's say, highway sign. And find things like this:
* US 40 at CO 14: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa2000046428/PP
* US 95 at ID 12: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa2000021220/PP
* a rural-looking City Route [US] 12 in Chicago: http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1997010999/PP
* US 77/81/84 and TX 67, Waco (think we've seen this elsewhere): http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1998000011/PP
There's more, and a bunch of non-highway stuff.
http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1997010999/PP
"Speed Limit 148!" :-D Funny stuff!
http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1998016627/PP I like this classic photo taken in 1941 on the Merrit Parkway in CT. Though not of the road's signage, but a great find on the link a few posts back as the roads themselves then were just as impressive as their signs were.
Anyway here is one of the signs that I find interesting. I take these were the local speed laws and not the open road at the time. http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1998000008/PP
And I thought the speed limit sign on the Indiana Toll Road was overkill.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2014, 01:31:10 PMI take these were the local speed laws and not the open road at the time. http://photogrammar.yale.edu/records/index.php?record=fsa1998000008/PP
Texas has the modern descendent of those at the state line. they are huge (maybe 12x8 feet) and describe the speed limits of all vehicle classifications. I alas cannot find a photo offhand.
Just found another one on Pintrest:
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/247346204507645551/
Yet another old I-90 hiding out near the Eisenhower Expressway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4599_zps1e97627d.jpg&hash=77d091122ba21bf43eef4a479b9ac2eedd1c25c9) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4599_zps1e97627d.jpg.html)
Holy crap. That sign is faded to all oblivion. Interesting circular TO though. Has that been seen anywhere else?
Excellent find!!
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3841/15384207185_bc5550f8c3_z.jpg)
still hanging around in New Jersey.
^ I wonder if the "E" in CHALLENGER is covering up an "A" as in CHALLANGER. The US 46 and I-95 signs must have been put up in the early 1970's.
I also like the NEW Overpeck County Park sign with the outlined NEW. I wonder where OLD Overpeck County Park is?
Went by to see an old friend yesterday. They've put a foddershock in front of it, but it's still standing, but looking worse each time I see it:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6EIDads.jpg&hash=c5f731d905e4f126ca4176935068aa3b8fe56d99)
Here is a VA 10 cutout from 1934:
http://usgwarchives.net/va/photo/cityofbedford/1934.jpg
Today this is US 221/460 Bus at US 221 Bus/VA 43-122 Bus
Mapmikey
Not an old sign, just a photo of (former) US-99 (now I-5) outside Fort Lewis, near Tacoma outside Seattle.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.tacomapubliclibrary.org%2Fimages%2Fimages%2F83%2Ft1%2F23942.jpg&hash=64799ba0b57b68b34e740b81b93911be00ac2185)
Does anyone know what the dashed area is along the ramp shoulder? I'm not thinking at any point we used French-style dashed shoulder lines...right?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTq2KjpB.jpg&hash=5fade0983255761ad790e6a2362dcae984eb4e6a)
from the 1925-26 biennial report (http://www.arkansashighways.com/historic_bridge/Beinnial%20Reports/7th%20Biennial%20Report%20%281925-26%29.pdf)
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:16:06 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on May 06, 2014, 11:13:29 PM
Where are the I-71s? I have found a few 75s, but not a 71.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 11, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
There are a bunch of city-installed I-75 (and I-71) signs on various streets in Cincinnati, both fairly new and very faded.
any others with the state name?
There are no I-71 Ohio shields left. Outside of the I-75's in Lockland, there is just the one for I-70 in Columbus (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OH19610701).
The I-70 shield is no more :thumbdown:
162 pictures from the mid/late 1960s mostly involving the DC Beltway are now available in a new gallery at the Virginia Highways Project:
http://www.vahighways.com/495vintage/index.htm
A couple examples of what you can find in this gallery, which is organized geographically so that you can "virtually drive" the beltway from its early beginnings. Mostly Virginia but some Maryland.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2F495vintage%2FIL-exit18_3.jpg&hash=068838151f77960cae48310b0db6c36655ec7b95)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2F495vintage%2F70Sat270.jpg&hash=381adb49c2b68a920cfc6e1e461710ef95b75124)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2F495vintage%2F95Nat495_4.jpg&hash=2e6ebd127ceb1bdc7d2737cb165d4c84b1322e79)
Mapmikey
(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1782165_10203830050379672_4123714545547511511_n.jpg?oh=337262cf230f5fdd0f3c34468f9bc949&oe=558D15EC)
^ Dixie Highway just north of Covington Catholic High just before the curve heading toward the bend above I-71/75? Just drove by there 2.5 hours ago. I see this was before US 127 got extended to Chattanooga. Built up a bit since then. Also, I see Covington had about 20,000 more people in the city back then. What year was this -- around late 1940's-early 1950's?
I like how Maryland underlined the cardinal directions on their BGS's (they may have been black back then) ala Michigan. Looking at the Washington Beltway photos was very interesting. They should have kept some of the mileage signs around that were posted back then (especially distances to Richmond and Annapolis).
From Tumblr, about a week ago.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/86413f670581083ac078fd662a5f3e03/tumblr_n055wwQT571qixj39o1_1280.jpg)
I'm going to guess this photo is from 1978-1980, based on the car's wear-and-tear (it's a Fiat 850 spyder, last made in 1973) and the plate's sticker.
This showed up on Facebook a couple days ago.
(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11046946_10152772052607898_2918083462400938502_o.jpg)
And this just sold on e-bay
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2F00%2Fs%2FMTAwMFg3NTA%3D%2Fz%2FyXoAAOSwZjJU94uv%2F%24_57.JPG&hash=15cf41e247c6dc0fb8ed2aecfde0799651563bb0)
Courtesy Steve Anderson (@EasternRoads (https://twitter.com/EasternRoads)):
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAi4W0bUwAAHHpL.jpg:large)
Quote from: formulanone on March 17, 2015, 08:51:37 PM
From Tumblr, about a week ago.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/86413f670581083ac078fd662a5f3e03/tumblr_n055wwQT571qixj39o1_1280.jpg)
I'm going to guess this photo is from 1978-1980, based on the car's wear-and-tear (it's a Fiat 850 spyder, last made in 1973) and the plate's sticker.
There needs to be a caption contest for this photo.
Recently found this photo gallery containing old shots of the Pulaski Skyway on NJ.com. Included are some shots of the signage that used to be on the roadway:
http://photos.nj.com/4505/gallery/vintage_photos_of_the_pulaski_/index.html#/0
Quote from: Zeffy on March 31, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Recently found this photo gallery containing old shots of the Pulaski Skyway on NJ.com. Included are some shots of the signage that used to be on the roadway:
http://photos.nj.com/4505/gallery/vintage_photos_of_the_pulaski_/index.html#/0
Nice.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgick.nj.com%2Fhome%2Fnjo-media%2Fwidth960%2Fimg%2Fjersey-journal%2Fphoto%2F2014%2F04%2F-16d06ee8fb042db6.jpg&hash=7967268bdb4913180ba2f7d3830dab139bb8d559)
About a year ago a gentleman e-mailed me some vintage black and white road photos from NC and VA. I've posted them on the blog:
http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2015/05/local-sign-find-vintage-nc-and-va-road.html
The five photos include what may have been a locally installed US 421 Truck Route shield that was a cutout circle, interesting span wire hung overheads for US 29 and 70 in Greensboro, a look at I-40 and asheboro street before it was signed I-40. Button copy US 29 cutout in concord and one from US 1/58 in South Hill, VA.
Found some good stuff on the Georgetown County Library Digital Collections...they contain the best looking examples of how SC posted their state routes in the 1920s-30s:
This is ca. 1960 of SC 41 at US 521 in Andrews. The route shields shown here were still there in the late 1980s...
http://www.gcdigital.org/cdm/ref/collection/p15077coll2/id/123
This is 1933-34 pic of SC 51 at SC 512. Today it is S-22-4 at S-22-6.
http://www.gcdigital.org/cdm/ref/collection/Georgetown5/id/528
This is 1933-34 pic of SC 511 and SC 512. This is now the SC 512 and SC 513 intersection.
http://www.gcdigital.org/cdm/ref/collection/Georgetown5/id/547
Mike
Not on the internet, but I have taken a photo of a photo I found while randomly walking around at school.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aWK7BOpy4IHgkZc8sS-wjMgMEICFjqot0y6Z8Ha4TdE=w858-h643-no)
From University of Manitoba. Not mine.
1969: Hwy 75 southbound in Winnipeg. Signs are pretty different now (thanks to bilingualism, but I won't go there :banghead:) Same streetlights it looks like too:
https://goo.gl/maps/ShSCf
https://www.flickr.com/photos/64900616@N04/21759077922/in/pool-nchighwaysigns/
https://web.archive.org/web/19981206094042/http://www.mcs.net/~jvincent/biggreen/i95i85.JPG
This should work from a webarchive page of Matt Steffora's old roadhouse in the 1990s. Overheads in Petersburg, VA along 95 south approaching I-85. Sequential-Richmond Petersburg Turnpike numbering.
And on 95 North at 64 East old Exit 11
https://web.archive.org/web/19981202130552/http://www.mcs.net/~jvincent/biggreen/i95i64.JPG
Both photos from 1988.
Westbound on US 60 just outside Winchester, Ky. This sucker dates back to the early 1970s, if not older. The non-reflectivity gives it away.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_05_04_16_2_47_35.jpeg)
And I'll throw this one on this thread too, although I also put it in the "reused, recycled..." thread. This is located near that "Stop Ahead" sign above. It dates back to the early 1970s, if not earlier, because of the lack of reflective sheeting. Photo taken two weeks ago.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_05_04_16_2_47_01.jpeg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8649/15955685843_ebbf918b72_c_d.jpg)
Arkansas-Louisiana State Line
I saw this one on a New York City/tri-state Facebook forum earlier. It's got to be from the Buffalo area. The poster said it was around 1977.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbEBhpl4.jpg&hash=a10f7558e2e0d3907f23c4aced325ccd4f2f8935)
Yeah, that was a pretty legendary blizzard. Affected a lot of the Midwest as well.
Found a copy of this photograph on Tumblr today. Originally photographed by Stephen Shore in Amarillo, TX in August 1973. Featuring a '61 spec US 66 shield!
Original post on Tumblr:
http://www.softpyramids.info/post/126430192293/stephen-shore-amarillo-texas-august-1973 (http://www.softpyramids.info/post/126430192293/stephen-shore-amarillo-texas-august-1973)
(https://multipliciudades.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/sprc3bcth-magers-london-stephen-shore-amarillo-texas-august-1973.jpg)
Talk about classic! Classic US shields, classic sign logos (Denny's and my favorite, Holiday Inn), classic autos (especially the Buick in the right lane), old-style streetlights, and gas pumps not underneath a large roof. Probably an attendant pumped it for the folks of Amarillo. :nod: Hey, 30.9 cents/gallon!
Also, no Interstate 27. :D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2Fold%2520KY%25204%2520pic%25201_zpsstixuubj.jpg&hash=978597684256f14748192c7d5b458eb9d1afbd32) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/hbelkins/media/old%20KY%204%20pic%201_zpsstixuubj.jpg.html)
This dates back to the construction of the south portion of New Circle Road (KY 4) in Lexington, in the early to mid 1970s. One of the oldest signs I've seen still standing on state roads in Kentucky. Photo taken 6/17/16.
i think this would qualify as old - based on that this dates to most likely before Interstate 440 was added to the Beltline in the early 90s.
I apologize for the blulr - no real good place to take this shot.
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7601/27879839510_67ba02fd3f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JtDsY7)IMG_9805 (https://flic.kr/p/JtDsY7) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Quote from: CanesFan27 on July 07, 2016, 08:15:22 PM
i think this would qualify as old - based on that this dates to most likely before Interstate 440 was added to the Beltline in the early 90s.
I apologize for the blulr - no real good place to take this shot.
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7601/27879839510_67ba02fd3f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JtDsY7)IMG_9805 (https://flic.kr/p/JtDsY7) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
So what was the number prior to the 90s? Was it US 1?
This scan shows what is was shortly before I-440. Technically the Beltline was briefly I-40 Bus (see pg 3 at http://route.transportation.org/Documents/1991-USRN_Cmte.pdf) right before I-440 but this was not signed...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fncannex%2Fncscans%2F1990_raleigh.jpg&hash=341288b6c2c8321a1f81f82e5bc38382d5e5de76)
Maybe Raleigh should have done on I-440, and now I-40 around the south side of the city, what Indianapolis has done with I-465 in regards with the US and state routes. They already moved all the routes to the beltway. Should have kept them on the beltway instead of moving them back. Most Raleigh residents use the street name instead of the route number anyway.
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 07, 2016, 10:07:27 PM
This scan shows what is was shortly before I-440. Technically the Beltline was briefly I-40 Bus (see pg 3 at http://route.transportation.org/Documents/1991-USRN_Cmte.pdf) right before I-440 but this was not signed...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fncannex%2Fncscans%2F1990_raleigh.jpg&hash=341288b6c2c8321a1f81f82e5bc38382d5e5de76)
Back in the '70s, pre 440, I remember the northern part of the Beltway being signed as US 1, 64, and 70--along with NC 50.
A trip to southwestern Virginia yielded all kinds of goodies.
Still standing in Wytheville
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13615294_10154196010251469_2454009844658678334_n.jpg?oh=9225c41b42f81f3f94176d581d78036f&oe=57F06253)
Hanging on in Galax
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13619981_10154196011511469_3313089354838971652_n.jpg?oh=7755f82d1f2cb7fe37cbbf89f80c10e3&oe=58330736)
And all sorts of goodies in Tazewell (https://www.facebook.com/MillenniumHighway/posts/10154195818951469) and Bluefield. (https://www.facebook.com/MillenniumHighway/posts/10154195956346469).
How about these beauties in Vermont?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGckxLNF.jpg&hash=39852d3f2a1a415a28095b75f618192800ba4990)
They're at the eastern end of Sykes Mountain Avenue in White River Junction. Behind me was the village with the train station. The other end of Sykes gives you the Greyhound terminal and an intersection with US Route 5.
Are those '57 spec shields?
I have no clue. I went up to them. They had no DOT-type install stickers on them or anything.
Here's a picture of what is now exit 47 on I-64 westbound, serving what is now WV-622, sometime in the 70s. WV-622 intersects WV-62, which was formerly US-35, thus the 35/2 fractional secondary route designation.
It appears they used sequential exit numbering on I-64 back then, something I didn't know. And of course, that's quite a nice car.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/54/0b/23540bd5ab736326409c3f81d615e146.jpg)
Quote from: fdpierson on August 12, 2016, 12:52:55 PMAnd of course, that's quite a nice car.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/54/0b/23540bd5ab736326409c3f81d615e146.jpg)
That appears to be a '78 Chrysler Newport sedan. Normally Chrysler-badged cars didn't offer police-packaged variants but given that Dodge & Plymouth pulled the plug on its full-size Royal Monaco & Gran Fury (the latter would be revived in R-body form for 1980) that model year; this was the only traditional (read
big) full-size Mopar around for a police package. However, most agencies that used full-sized Dodges & Plymouths in the past just went to the mid-size Monacos & Furys (which were then larger than GM's then-newly downsized B-bodies) or Fords & Mercurys (which were still big for '78) if they wanted a traditional full-size.
Had hoped to get my own photograph of the triangle "68 TENN" sign in Madisonville today, but it's been removed. A streetscape project has claimed it.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwebbie1.sfpl.org%2Fmultimedia%2Fsfphotos%2FAAC-2256.jpg&hash=3b65ccba4d95f5f3b02f6fadf02a2e013db5fdf2)
from http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/record=b1017147
A few weeks ago I was in Kalamazoo, Michigan for work. WHile roadgeeking with Brian Rawson-Ketchem and Sam Scholtens, we came across these gems off of M-40 south of Lawton.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4352/36616958882_a691e3d856_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XMHuah)20170816_190302 (https://flic.kr/p/XMHuah) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
now take a closer look at the Dead End Sign...and you'll see it traveled a bit to get to this road along Cedar Lake.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4369/36458903462_bde3693445_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XxKpMQ)20170816_190308 (https://flic.kr/p/XxKpMQ) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4430/37091488135_065e61325a_c_d.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/37091488135/)
I found this picture from what I think is the Springfield interchange's earliest configuration while browsing, and I don't believe I've ever seen a VDOT installed sign with an I-70S shield before:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Qfqoahg9Eg-T_-LP0NaEO5LKLAMVCGtt)
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30743872_10214023287768693_8880641046862626816_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7f789369bcf1b25db2ff60457efe09d9&oe=5B638075)
Reverse Curve sign somewhere in Arkansas circa 1928
From Ninth Biennial Report Arkansas State Highway Commission
Quote from: HTM Duke on April 16, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
I found this picture from what I think is the Springfield interchange's earliest configuration while browsing, and I don't believe I've ever seen a VDOT installed sign with an I-70S shield before:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Qfqoahg9Eg-T_-LP0NaEO5LKLAMVCGtt)
Here is what that looked like a few years prior:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvahighways.com%2F495vintage%2F95Nat495_4.jpg&hash=8668605771973a1ccac0a7d5c9afd8dd977964f8)
A whole bunch of 1960s beltway region photos are available at http://vahighways.com/495vintage/index.htm
^^
"Sign salads" like that are not common in WA. Was (or is) it common in other states for freeway diverges to be signed with shields in the gore (or even off to the side), like those used on surface roads? Obviously, big green signs are more common these days, but I wonder if A) sign salads were the norm on freeways, and B) whether or not this is still common anywhere.
Quote from: jakeroot on April 18, 2018, 05:21:38 PM
^^
"Sign salads" like that are not common in WA. Was (or is) it common in other states for freeway diverges to be signed with shields in the gore (or even off to the side), like those used on surface roads? Obviously, big green signs are more common these days, but I wonder if A) sign salads were the norm on freeways, and B) whether or not this is still common anywhere.
If you follow the link to the vahighways.com webiste above, you will be taken to congressional testimony in 1969 about this very issue. Basically, in the beginning of the interstate era most states were signing freeway entrances and junctions in a similar fashion to other junctions with ground mounted small signs and the occasional sine salad. California was typically using the BGS. Well, the congressional testimony determined that it was a safety issue to have such small signs on high speed freeways so they imposed rules to have bigger signs on the freeways and to allow for the federal funding to accomplish it.
The pictures in the report are mostly from CA, NY, and the DC area.
It's a great read if you have the time.
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 18, 2018, 06:52:22 AM
A whole bunch of 1960s beltway region photos are available at http://vahighways.com/495vintage/index.htm
So, on this one, was the banner that said "NO TRUCKS" red?
http://www.vahighways.com/495vintage/IL-exit15.jpg
Because it looks like a different shade of gray in that part.
Hey, there's a Hess truck here: :biggrin:
http://www.vahighways.com/495vintage/US50ebatMD3_2.jpg
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
So, on this one, was the banner that said "NO TRUCKS" red?
http://www.vahighways.com/495vintage/IL-exit15.jpg
Because it looks like a different shade of gray in that part.
I have no idea. Perhaps one of the 3 posters in this forum whose DC-area presence goes back much further than mine might know...?
https://flic.kr/p/ErLksJ
Where Route 1 hits PA 132
This photo was south of the South Park Bridge in Seattle Washington. It connects two different neighborhoods in Seattle, but for the longest time the bridge was in unincorporated King County. It almost seems the city drew the boundary around the bridge just so it wouldn't have to pay for its operation and upkeep, but that also means it bypassed the corporate offices of Boeing. For years I would regularly read letters to the editor in the paper about how Seattle's budget problems would be solved if only they incorporated Boeing. Instead, Tukwilla, a smaller city to the south, swooped in and incorporated Boeing, but they ran the city limit down the middle of the river, apparently sticking King County with the bridge, and leaving a small, low rent, fireworks free-for-all island neighborhood of unincorporated county. Soon after that, Boeing left for Chicago. Then a few years after that, the bridge became too old to repair, so it was simply removed, leaving no bridge at all for several years until the county could find the money for a new one. This photo is from before the bridge was closed, but shows how a sign in the city for a county bridge could be taken for granted and forgotten.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/828/41239820375_af1ebdff97_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25QdRPM)Overgrown drawbridge sign (https://flic.kr/p/25QdRPM) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Quote from: HTM Duke on April 16, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
I found this picture from what I think is the Springfield interchange's earliest configuration while browsing, and I don't believe I've ever seen a VDOT installed sign with an I-70S shield before:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Qfqoahg9Eg-T_-LP0NaEO5LKLAMVCGtt)
What is the reference to "transpo"?
Quote from: msubulldog on May 17, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on April 16, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
I found this picture from what I think is the Springfield interchange's earliest configuration while browsing, and I don't believe I've ever seen a VDOT installed sign with an I-70S shield before:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Qfqoahg9Eg-T_-LP0NaEO5LKLAMVCGtt)
What is the reference to "transpo"?
It's amazing to me how much the control cities have changed over the years. There is no reference at all for Fairfax or Dulles right now at Sprinfield or mention of the other highways to connect to like 66, 270, and 295.
Quote from: mrsman on May 18, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: msubulldog on May 17, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on April 16, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
I found this picture from what I think is the Springfield interchange's earliest configuration while browsing, and I don't believe I've ever seen a VDOT installed sign with an I-70S shield before:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Qfqoahg9Eg-T_-LP0NaEO5LKLAMVCGtt)
What is the reference to "transpo"?
It's amazing to me how much the control cities have changed over the years. There is no reference at all for Fairfax or Dulles right now at Sprinfield or mention of the other highways to connect to like 66, 270, and 295.
1) I believe the "transpo" tab referred to the U.S. International Transportation Exposition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpo_%2772
2) While not on overhead signage anymore, there is a ground-mounted install (before the SR-644 exit if I remember right) that instructs motorists to use I-495 north to reach I-66, I-270, and Dulles Airport. As for control cities, I can recall an old pull-through sign on the outer loop of I-495 around the Braddock Rd exit that included Fredericksburg, as well as VDOT using Rockville instead of Tysons Corner for the inner loop.
Quote from: HTM Duke on May 18, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
I believe the "transpo" tab referred to the U.S. International Transportation Exposition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpo_%2772
That's such an orgy of transportation phenomena that I'm now convinced it was proclaimed by a Roman Emperor.
Quote from: formulanone on May 21, 2018, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on May 18, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
I believe the "transpo" tab referred to the U.S. International Transportation Exposition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpo_%2772
That's such an orgy of transportation phenomena that I'm now convinced it was proclaimed by a Roman Emperor.
I would have taken a year off from traditional sex to have participated.
Quote from: HTM Duke on May 18, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: mrsman on May 18, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: msubulldog on May 17, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on April 16, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
I found this picture from what I think is the Springfield interchange's earliest configuration while browsing, and I don't believe I've ever seen a VDOT installed sign with an I-70S shield before:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Qfqoahg9Eg-T_-LP0NaEO5LKLAMVCGtt)
What is the reference to "transpo"?
It's amazing to me how much the control cities have changed over the years. There is no reference at all for Fairfax or Dulles right now at Sprinfield or mention of the other highways to connect to like 66, 270, and 295.
1) I believe the "transpo" tab referred to the U.S. International Transportation Exposition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpo_%2772
2) While not on overhead signage anymore, there is a ground-mounted install (before the SR-644 exit if I remember right) that instructs motorists to use I-495 north to reach I-66, I-270, and Dulles Airport. As for control cities, I can recall an old pull-through sign on the outer loop of I-495 around the Braddock Rd exit that included Fredericksburg, as well as VDOT using Rockville instead of Tysons Corner for the inner loop.
The control cities for the western I-495 have included: Frederick, Rockville, Fairfax, and Tysons Corner. Fairfax can still be seen on mileage signs on the outer loop right after crossing the American Legion Bridge.
IMO there should be consistent control city usage between MD and VA. Baltimore and Richmond should be the exclusive controls for the eastern half of the Beltway. They should also be used any place they make sense on the western half. The only other controls used should be Bethesda (270/495) and Tysons Corner (267/495).
Here is a link to a Facebook group called Historic Road Signs. There are lots of cool pictures that are posted to this group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1692760040977607/
Quote from: bugo on May 26, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Here is a link to a Facebook group called Historic Road Signs. There are lots of cool pictures that are posted to this group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1692760040977607/
Which can only be seen if you join Jeremy & Tim's Facebook club. (i.e. it's a closed Facebook group)
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 26, 2018, 09:26:42 PM
Quote from: bugo on May 26, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Here is a link to a Facebook group called Historic Road Signs. There are lots of cool pictures that are posted to this group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1692760040977607/
Which can only be seen if you join Jeremy & Tim's Facebook club. (i.e. it's a closed Facebook group)
We had to change the security on a few groups because this one guy kept downloading pictures from the groups and selling prints of them. He also uploaded them to his Flickr account and claimed them as his own. He was warned many times, by me and by other members of the groups. I hated doing it, but I had to.
Quote from: bugo on May 26, 2018, 10:28:04 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 26, 2018, 09:26:42 PM
Quote from: bugo on May 26, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Here is a link to a Facebook group called Historic Road Signs. There are lots of cool pictures that are posted to this group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1692760040977607/
Which can only be seen if you join Jeremy & Tim's Facebook club. (i.e. it's a closed Facebook group)
We had to change the security on a few groups because this one guy kept downloading pictures from the groups and selling prints of them. He also uploaded them to his Flickr account and claimed them as his own. He was warned many times, by me and by other members of the groups. I hated doing it, but I had to.
Dwayne Pounds. He lifted a few of my Missouri button copy photos and didn't understand why it was wrong to do so.
Wow. What a jerk.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
Quote from: bugo on May 26, 2018, 10:28:04 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 26, 2018, 09:26:42 PM
Quote from: bugo on May 26, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Here is a link to a Facebook group called Historic Road Signs. There are lots of cool pictures that are posted to this group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1692760040977607/
Which can only be seen if you join Jeremy & Tim's Facebook club. (i.e. it's a closed Facebook group)
We had to change the security on a few groups because this one guy kept downloading pictures from the groups and selling prints of them. He also uploaded them to his Flickr account and claimed them as his own. He was warned many times, by me and by other members of the groups. I hated doing it, but I had to.
Dwayne Pounds. He lifted a few of my Missouri button copy photos and didn't understand why it was wrong to do so.
I've had the same problem. He was stealing my photos from Flickr and posting them as his own. He's on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32293419@N04) now and constantly inviting me to join groups he has started (I refuse). Someone told me Mr Pounds is mildly retarded (what's the PC term for that?) and doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong, but I want nothing to do with him and have blocked him from my Flickr page.
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
I've had the same problem. He was stealing my photos from Flickr and posting them as his own. He's on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32293419@N04) now and constantly inviting me to join groups he has started (I refuse). Someone told me Mr Pounds is mildly retarded (what's the PC term for that?) and doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong, but I want nothing to do with him and have blocked him from my Flickr page.
Didn't his mother come on the button copy group and say that he's autistic, and because of that we should just let him be?
Quote from: hbelkins on July 10, 2018, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
I've had the same problem. He was stealing my photos from Flickr and posting them as his own. He's on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32293419@N04) now and constantly inviting me to join groups he has started (I refuse). Someone told me Mr Pounds is mildly retarded (what's the PC term for that?) and doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong, but I want nothing to do with him and have blocked him from my Flickr page.
Didn't his mother come on the button copy group and say that he's autistic, and because of that we should just let him be?
I remember someone saying something, but don't remember who is was.
Not sure if this has been posted or if it would count, but I noticed this when street viewing NJ-495:
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HujOFTs.png)
Google Maps link: https://goo.gl/maps/KiXBGydAEgH2
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 10, 2018, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
I've had the same problem. He was stealing my photos from Flickr and posting them as his own. He's on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32293419@N04) now and constantly inviting me to join groups he has started (I refuse). Someone told me Mr Pounds is mildly retarded (what's the PC term for that?) and doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong, but I want nothing to do with him and have blocked him from my Flickr page.
Didn't his mother come on the button copy group and say that he's autistic, and because of that we should just let him be?
I remember someone saying something, but don't remember who is was.
Sounds like he'd fare better on Pinterest, where you can post almost all of the internet as if copyrights and permissions didn't exist.
Quote from: formulanone on July 13, 2018, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 10, 2018, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
I've had the same problem. He was stealing my photos from Flickr and posting them as his own. He's on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32293419@N04) now and constantly inviting me to join groups he has started (I refuse). Someone told me Mr Pounds is mildly retarded (what's the PC term for that?) and doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong, but I want nothing to do with him and have blocked him from my Flickr page.
Didn't his mother come on the button copy group and say that he's autistic, and because of that we should just let him be?
I remember someone saying something, but don't remember who is was.
Sounds like he'd fare better on Pinterest, where you can post almost all of the internet as if copyrights and permissions didn't exist.
Like any other site, Pinterest conforms to the DMCA, and they are supposed to respond to copyright infringement notices quickly. That said, typical online practice is that you can share just about anything, as long as you give the original source. In the case of Pinterest and Tumblr, the source is already given when you repost something.
Just out of curiosity, where was this pic?
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NY19520271&view=3
And who's idea was it to make something like this?
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NY20010091&view=3
Electrospark finds old Kodachrome slides and posts them on Flickr; here's the corner of Cleveland & Ft. Harrison in Clearwater, Florida:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1778/29944447908_4012528eab_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MC687C)
Bank of Clearwater – 1969 (https://flic.kr/p/MC687C) by ElectroSpark (https://www.flickr.com/photos/electrospark/), on Flickr
Quote from: formulanone on August 02, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Electrospark finds old Kodachrome slides and posts them on Flickr; here's the corner of Cleveland & Ft. Harrison in Clearwater, Florida:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1778/29944447908_4012528eab_b.jpg
OT: funny how some states, such as Florida, have gone backwards in terms of signal placement. That old setup is great...good visibility for all approaches. Modern Florida signals are just overhead; not as good in my opinion.
Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2018, 02:23:34 AM
Quote from: formulanone on August 02, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Electrospark finds old Kodachrome slides and posts them on Flickr; here's the corner of Cleveland & Ft. Harrison in Clearwater, Florida:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1778/29944447908_4012528eab_b.jpg
OT: funny how some states, such as Florida, have gone backwards in terms of signal placement. That old setup is great...good visibility for all approaches. Modern Florida signals are just overhead; not as good in my opinion.
I don't agree they've gone backwards, at least in terms of safety. A lack of elegance? ...Maybe, but that's subjective.
Almost all signals in Florida seem to feature several traffic lights set back past the intersection's midpoint, like any other modern setup. The sheer quantity at some of those 3-lane by 3-lane intersections can be staggering. Central-point mounted traffic signals are rare finds in Florida, since a lot of span-wire setups have been discarded over the past few decades to make them "hurricane-proof", or to be replaced with LED signals in high-traffic areas. There's still a few old setups where the span wires cross the intersections with an "X" pattern, with the protected left in the center. But Florida also uses a lot of doghouses for permissive lefts, and has been for at least 40 years.
Quote from: formulanone on August 03, 2018, 09:13:39 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2018, 02:23:34 AM
Quote from: formulanone on August 02, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Electrospark finds old Kodachrome slides and posts them on Flickr; here's the corner of Cleveland & Ft. Harrison in Clearwater, Florida:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1778/29944447908_4012528eab_b.jpg
OT: funny how some states, such as Florida, have gone backwards in terms of signal placement. That old setup is great...good visibility for all approaches. Modern Florida signals are just overhead; not as good in my opinion.
I don't agree they've gone backwards, at least in terms of safety. A lack of elegance? ...Maybe, but that's subjective.
Almost all signals in Florida seem to feature several traffic lights set back past the intersection's midpoint, like any other modern setup. The sheer quantity at some of those 3-lane by 3-lane intersections can be staggering. Central-point mounted traffic signals are rare finds in Florida, since a lot of span-wire setups have been discarded over the past few decades to make them "hurricane-proof", or to be replaced with LED signals in high-traffic areas. There's still a few old setups where the span wires cross the intersections with an "X" pattern, with the protected left in the center. But Florida also uses a lot of doghouses for permissive lefts, and has been for at least 40 years.
The root of my comment was the lack of any additional pole-mounted signals in modern setups. Old setups had this, since that single overhead signal was not always easy to see from every angle. When California started using mast arm signals, they kept the pole mounted signals, which is why California now has both. Seattle is like Florida; more than a few pole mounted signals back in the day, many having been replaced by overhead-only signals. Overhead signals are likely easier spotted, but the best of both worlds is both overhead and pole signals combined.
You'll still see a few pole-mounted signals in Florida, but usually only for corners that might be blind from a short distance or obstructed for some reason.
Palm Beach County used to have a few giant intersections with secondary signals, which was great for long backups or getting stuck behind a truck. (Or for knowing that you'll creep forward on red, and stay motionless in green during rush hour.) They've also disappeared over the past few years; lack of compliance or maintenance costs?
Quote from: formulanone on August 03, 2018, 10:20:48 PM
You'll still see a few pole-mounted signals in Florida, but usually only for corners that might be blind from a short distance or obstructed for some reason.
Credit where credit's due, I suppose.
Quote from: formulanone on August 03, 2018, 10:20:48 PM
Palm Beach County used to have a few giant intersections with secondary signals, which was great for long backups or getting stuck behind a truck. (Or for knowing that you'll creep forward on red, and stay motionless in green during rush hour.) They've also disappeared over the past few years; lack of compliance or maintenance costs?
Looking around the county, it looks like more than a few have near-side overhead signals, which is great: https://goo.gl/XNC53x (it's not something I've seen elsewhere in FL).
Looks like a few older setups had near-side signals that were pole-mounted. Those are my preference, though I certainly appreciate any type of near-side signal.
Do you know of any older setups that are still intact? I think they've slowly disappeared in some states due to a lack of creativity on the part of engineers. If it's not required, why bother? Well, there's a reason other places require it. WA does not require any secondary signals, but many cities use it due to an interest in improving visibility, reducing red light running, etc.
My undergrad school (Eastern Connecticut State University) posted this photo recently. Not sure when they were called Willimantic State College (I'm guessing 1959-1967, since WCSU's Wikipedia page says that's when that naming convention was used), but it's pretty cool:
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HFKLK6Q.jpg)
Citation (https://www.facebook.com/ECSUAlumniAssociation/photos/a.10151387704089709/10156655616359709/?type=3&theater)
The CT Turnpike sign sets a lower bound at 1958. Following US 6 to its intersection with the Turnpike would have been a little fruitless; they don't meet until the Turnpike's end at the Rhode Island state line. The shortest route to the Turnpike is CT 32.
The CT 32 and 89 signs: were they shaded or just dark? Starting around 1950, for a few years, CT 32 signs were white on blue in some city locations; and CT 89 was white on orange.
CT 89 was cancelled in this area in December 1964, in favor of CT 289 and CT 195.
I tried to locate this intersection today; seems like possibly Bridge St at Main St. But the building shown in the right might be gone.
Quote from: kurumi on September 27, 2018, 02:08:55 AM
I tried to locate this intersection today; seems like possibly Bridge St at Main St. But the building shown in the right might be gone.
You have this intersection identified correctly...the building is still there
https://goo.gl/maps/ZmATBCWs9kv
https://goo.gl/maps/fnQ9UB3tBjo
Serving an old automobile plant that's since been torn down and the ramps closed.
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https://goo.gl/maps/SziMnL7rg9z
I'm sure this Clearview sign got mileage when it was installed not long before the plant closed!
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https://goo.gl/maps/z2gdHZjiWZu
In general, the US 12 freeway and other roads around the old plant have been right-sized and completely redone!
Quote from: seicer on October 01, 2018, 09:43:21 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/fnQ9UB3tBjo
Serving an old automobile plant that's since been torn down and the ramps closed.
Wow. :-o
Hello all!
First time poster here, but I'd like to share some pics of old signs I have taken on my travels around my homeland of Western Canada.
Some old Saskatchewan signs from before they had the current blue design.
Looking east at corner of Hwy. 271 & Hwy. 724, west of Maple Creek, Saskatchewan:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin%2520-%2520231_zpsgl23ssco.jpg&hash=475157d9df7f410c3f7de1bb0e12f91ffb49e753)
Looking west at corner of Hwy. 321 & Hwy. 21 at Liebenthal, Saskatchewan:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin2%2520-%25203_zpsdiewbyq0.jpg&hash=b756e925f5d56cd2fc49130dc64e13e85f5d3eb1)
This interesting set up is found on the intersection of Hwy. 884 & Township Road 230, north of Jenner, Alberta. It is interesting because Hwy. 557 does not exist anymore as a provincially maintained highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin%2520-%2520345_zpsrdrsqunf.jpg&hash=3e6217090147e8292414757cb7579f1e898bb371)
This signs were dated on the back as well.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin%2520-%2520347_zpsboz7dt98.jpg&hash=eb7a0bee81ffd4f6174a68a66565a7687311020e)
An ancient looking sign found east of the ghost town of Faraway, Alberta, which is north of Rocky Mountain House, Alberta. Located at the intersection of Hwy. 53 & Range Road 54 (The Downey Rd.)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin2%2520-%2520109_zpssxpjg5xg.jpg&hash=3543e9a6fcf79a826b114dee752263dc11bfe036)(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin2%2520-%2520108_zpshid2cpti.jpg&hash=64f1193b0e31c8900c6ccfb9b2d50824d6274eeb)
And an ancient looking yield sign found in the backwoods west of Bearberry, Alberta, at Range Road 80 & Township Road 335A.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1251.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh542%2Fdevin_drozdz%2FDevin2%2520-%2520127_zps3qxxbwme.jpg&hash=e0b80f66d4e30a02cb819f5174908ff8bc8f7d5e)
Quote from: swiz_01 on October 14, 2018, 04:26:24 PM
Hello all!
First time poster here, but I'd like to share some pics of old signs I have taken on my travels around my homeland of Western Canada.
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And an ancient looking yield sign found in the backwoods west of Bearberry, Alberta, at Range Road 80 & Township Road 335A.
http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh542/devin_drozdz/Devin2%20-%20127_zps3qxxbwme.jpg
That's fantastic! Yield signs with writing is a rare sight in Canada. Never mind a left-over classic like that.
I suggest a cross post to the Canada board!
I was in suburban Baltimore and found some interesting signs there:
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HNd9sq0.jpg)
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HNd9TBY.jpg)
Quote from: kurumi on September 27, 2018, 02:08:55 AM
The CT Turnpike sign sets a lower bound at 1958. Following this comprehensive review of NordVPN (https://www.sfgate.com/market/article/nordvpn-review-16755629.php) and US 6 to its intersection with the Turnpike would have been a little fruitless; they don't meet until the Turnpike's end at the Rhode Island state line. The shortest route to the Turnpike is CT 32.
The CT 32 and 89 signs: were they shaded or just dark? Starting around 1950, for a few years, CT 32 signs were white on blue in some city locations; and CT 89 was white on orange.
CT 89 was cancelled in this area in December 1964, in favor of CT 289 and CT 195.
I tried to locate this intersection today; seems like possibly Bridge St at Main St. But the building shown in the right might be gone.
Those look really battered. Love it. Great find, Peter.
(https://i.imgur.com/CjqEtBY.png)
From "Building Route 95 - Part 1 (http://www.hopkintonhistoricalassociation.org/2016/03/21/building-route-95-part-1/)" and Part 2 (http://www.hopkintonhistoricalassociation.org/2016/03/21/building-route-95-part-ii/), Hopkinton [R.I.] Historical Association. Several historical photos of RI 3, RI 138, CT 184, and I-95 construction.
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Screenshot from this video from the PA Turnpike (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6452527720743211009):
(https://i.imgur.com/fm3YOlP.png)
Springvale, Maine - circa 1954:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/826/41028106684_df794af646_b.jpg)
Cushman's Bakery Products - 1950 Chevrolet Sedan Delivery - Main Street Scene - Hood Milk Sign - Springvale, ME - Circa: 1954 (https://flic.kr/p/25vvLHJ) by Dave Gelinas (https://www.flickr.com/photos/117891934@N07/) on Flickr
There's a 1920's Missouri oval on e-bay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123646624082?ul_noapp=true
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Photo by Finis Mitchell. Pub. by M & R Photos, Rock Springs WY. 1960-1980. (Intersection of Elk, Center and Bridger). Photo courtesy of the Rock Springs Historical Museum.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/42991135531_88afb4a461_z_d.jpg)
Old US 62 Caddo, OK
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3160/2284443231_0c1100bd3e_o_d.jpg)
Glenpool. OK
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8642/30336379376_f0029c8e6c_z_d.jpg)
Downtown Birmingham, AL
Quote from: zzyzx on December 07, 2018, 05:40:21 PM
Screenshot from this video from the PA Turnpike (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6452527720743211009):
(https://i.imgur.com/fm3YOlP.png)
Proof that people parked in stupid places before disco music.
Quote from: formulanone on March 10, 2019, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: zzyzx on December 07, 2018, 05:40:21 PM
Screenshot from this video from the PA Turnpike (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6452527720743211009):
https://i.imgur.com/fm3YOlP.png
Proof that people parked in stupid places before disco music.
Why did they put such important signs in the gore area? Surely there was an expectation that people might have to slow down or stop to assess which maneuver was correct, especially when freeways were first built, and demanded fast-reading skills that drivers, then, may not have innately possessed (as I
think we see now).
I was looking through some of my photos and found this set of shields in Portland ME back in November 2018.
(https://i.ibb.co/VjrbdqR/IMG-20181122-124303615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wxq7Q2Z)
Also, here's an embossed speed limit sign from a shopping center in Norristown PA that I took in July 2016.
(https://i.ibb.co/5MVw1KR/IMG-20160718-183457576.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1FDwPH)
An old Ohio Route 233 sign; photo from 1985:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4724/25153510017_1802992cd8_b.jpg)
Ohio Road Signs (https://flic.kr/p/EjJjcc) by jimross90 on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ohio981/)
From today's Vintage Portland post:
(https://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/1969_billboards-at-roger-sagmors-motor-mart-ltd-by-sears_a2011-018.406.jpg)
NE Grand Ave & Everett St before crossing over the Banfield, 1969 (https://vintageportland.wordpress.com/2019/03/21/ne-grand-avenue-1969-2/)
Trumbull Street at I-75 in downtown Detroit. Old Tiger Stadium is ahead on the right.
(https://i.imgur.com/5fx68DS.jpg)
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 31, 2019, 02:06:35 AM
Trumbull Street at I-75 in downtown Detroit. Old Tiger Stadium is ahead on the right.
(https://i.imgur.com/5fx68DS.jpg)
Wow, that I-75 shield looks faded. :wow:
I've passed this sign a few times and wondered as to its date - I know that AAA used to post these predominantly in the 1910's - 1920's, but it just seems so... new? It's almost in TOO good condition? It's at the end of King's Highway in Haddonfield, NJ. Does anyone have an idea if this was a real original AAA sign from the 1920's?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw9ZBBRT/AF710-E44-8-D79-44-D9-B2-AB-C096067418-DA.jpg)
In the new article "35 vintage photos taken by the EPA reveal what American cities looked like before pollution was regulated," the lead photo is a 1974 shot of Denver with some classic old-school CDOT signs:
https://www.businessinsider.com/what-us-cities-looked-like-before-epa-regulated-pollution-2019-8
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d42f7b8100a24045706ac61-1536-768.jpg)
Found this while watching a documentary on the Glen Canyon Dam:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48807055526_eb219a5ce5_z.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48200613457_685af28165_z_d.jpg)
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48200566341_2645a7d86b_z_d.jpg)
Lincoln Highway Museum Grand Junction, Iowa
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1902/45324676041_d05123aaf6_z_d.jpg)
Hamlet, IN
Found this gem in my grandpa's albums. Loving this sign. His label marks the photo as being taken between 1948 - 1950. Sorry Grandma kinda got in the way.
(https://i.postimg.cc/15rBSzQ1/EF075982-E52-B-4-E06-B716-B32-CE35-E473-C.jpg)
Found this one from the Library of Congress; 1977 photo of a Wisconsin Route 32 sign, in Racine:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49535042927_719583f519_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2itf3ug)
Drive-in Theater, Route 32, Kenosha, Wisconsin (LOC) (https://flic.kr/p/2itf3ug) by The Library of Congress (https://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/), on Flickr
By the way, when did the "WIS" disappear from the state highway shield? I saw one today in my travels, and so had no idea it was there until I browsed the shield gallery.
^^ The DOT dropped it c. 1972, but counties continued doing it afterward, dropping it some time afterward depending on the county. Some can still be found in the wild, particularly in Waukesha County.
Quote from: formulanone on February 14, 2020, 08:09:16 PM
Found this one from the Library of Congress; 1977 photo of a Wisconsin Route 32 sign, in Racine:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49535042927_719583f519_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2itf3ug)
Drive-in Theater, Route 32, Kenosha, Wisconsin (LOC) (https://flic.kr/p/2itf3ug) by The Library of Congress (https://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/), on Flickr
By the way, when did the "WIS" disappear from the state highway shield? I saw one today in my travels, and so had no idea it was there until I browsed the shield gallery.
I am finding it quite amusing that there is a photo of a "classic" drive-in theatre (of which there a very few of nowadays) and we are discussing the WIS 32 sign. :D
That drive-in looks great! Interesting choice of movies--"Jailbait Babysitter"? :hmm:
Anyway, some states had abbreviations on their state shield signs (NY, NC, OH come to mind) that now no longer have them. I, myself, never minded seeing an abbreviation on these shields.
Quote from: amroad17 on February 15, 2020, 07:33:28 AM
Quote from: formulanone on February 14, 2020, 08:09:16 PM
Found this one from the Library of Congress; 1977 photo of a Wisconsin Route 32 sign, in Racine:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49535042927_719583f519_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2itf3ug)
Drive-in Theater, Route 32, Kenosha, Wisconsin (LOC) (https://flic.kr/p/2itf3ug) by The Library of Congress (https://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/), on Flickr
By the way, when did the "WIS" disappear from the state highway shield? I saw one today in my travels, and so had no idea it was there until I browsed the shield gallery.
I am finding it quite amusing that there is a photo of a "classic" drive-in theatre (of which there a very few of nowadays) and we are discussing the WIS 32 sign. :D
That drive-in looks great! Interesting choice of movies--"Jailbait Babysitter"? :hmm:
Anyway, some states had abbreviations on their state shield signs (NY, NC, OH come to mind) that now no longer have them. I, myself, never minded seeing an abbreviation on these shields.
Well, it is the thread topic...admittedly, I think I've been to three drive-in theaters, so there's not much nostalgia value in it for me. Suburbia tended to not have drive-ins, so you had to go out of your want for them (the last being 1995 with a date).
My understanding is that once the theaters banded into a few groups, the drive-ins and mom-and-pops didn't get as many first-run movies and were left to show a lot of B-reel stuff that was usually a bit more gratuitous in nature.
I don't know why there's so many different shades of US Routes.
Photo taken in Tacoma, WA. Approximate location here (https://www.historicaerials.com/location/47.241981598942424/-122.41097964267632/1968/18) (at the five-way intersection), looking Northwest (photo taken 1956 Nov 30):
(https://i.imgur.com/uZEhA38.jpg)
Because I know those cutouts aren't particularly interesting, here's another photo (1906 May 08) showing what was supposedly the first danger-related sign in Tacoma, WA:
(https://i.imgur.com/EFTNSte.jpg)
Photo from the JoAnn E. Rovig Collection, Northwest Room, Tacoma.
Posted by the Arizona Daily Star, "Highway sign on Old Nogales Highway south of Tucson in July, 1956."
(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/3a/33ab8692-5786-11e7-aa6b-57cab598b3c9/594c233a88327.image.jpg)
More 1950s here, including an at-grade intersection on the pre-I-10 Tucson Freeway:
https://tucson.com/news/local/a-look-at-what-life-was-like-in-tucson-in/collection_c34f395e-577e-11e7-bb57-fbb43e3ef96b.html#42
A few old signs from St. Louis that a friend shared on Facebook the other day:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582429591_64a3634409_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582664282_edee77c5a0_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582664247_82fda8ebb8_b.jpg)
Quote from: ModernDayWarrior on February 25, 2020, 12:18:20 AM
A few old signs from St. Louis that a friend shared on Facebook the other day:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582429591_64a3634409_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582664282_edee77c5a0_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582664247_82fda8ebb8_b.jpg)
I really like the first sign. While it may be somewhat complicated to actually follow that sign for driving purposes it is just so unique that it's nice that it was preserved in somebody's photograph.
It is also curious to me that it seems that they emphasize States over cities would be guards to destinations.
Nexus 5X
Bloomfield, Connecticut, 1951. The Route 187/189 freeway doesn't yet exist. Route 189 is part of Route 9 and is on the north bank of the Farmington River, near the old Spoonville Bridge. Route 187 ends here and does not continue south into Bloomfield.
(https://i.imgur.com/aUTJ4Ph.jpg)
More non-road pics in the article at https://www.knowol.com/information/connecticut/historical-pictures-connecticut/
Quote from: mrsman on February 25, 2020, 08:22:02 AM
Quote from: ModernDayWarrior on February 25, 2020, 12:18:20 AM
A few old signs from St. Louis that a friend shared on Facebook the other day:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582429591_64a3634409_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582664282_edee77c5a0_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49582664247_82fda8ebb8_b.jpg)
I really like the first sign. While it may be somewhat complicated to actually follow that sign for driving purposes it is just so unique that it's nice that it was preserved in somebody's photograph.
It is also curious to me that it seems that they emphasize States over cities would be guards to destinations.
Nexus 5X
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6180863,-90.1957271,343m/data=!3m1!1e3) is what the location of the sign, in the first picture, looks like now.
This is a screen capture from an old film. It was taken near Christmas Island, Nova Scotia in the 1950's. I thought it was neat.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49789138888_056bf2a239_z.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5Ii05LI.jpg&hash=1fdfd765d6668d049ec9b42b0161ad5ef6ed3d67)
http://www.google.com/maps/@20.8744869,-89.7475152,3a,15y,138.42h,89.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s23DIWxbHj6GCxg_BF9ONjg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
On VDOT's Facebook page today.
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/99010844_10157031563590974_716069407289245696_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=WZtm306pXw8AX8IeEDl&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=55b82aae3747215d0298445781e3f82e&oe=5EED1B32)
Quote from: hbelkins on May 22, 2020, 02:53:01 PM
On VDOT's Facebook page today.
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/99010844_10157031563590974_716069407289245696_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=WZtm306pXw8AX8IeEDl&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=55b82aae3747215d0298445781e3f82e&oe=5EED1B32)
They should bring back US-0.0472222222222222222222222222222
Quote from: hbelkins on May 22, 2020, 02:53:01 PM
On VDOT's Facebook page today.
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/99010844_10157031563590974_716069407289245696_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=WZtm306pXw8AX8IeEDl&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=55b82aae3747215d0298445781e3f82e&oe=5EED1B32)
That old 17/360 looks great. I want it ;)
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https://www.google.com/maps/@-27.4135448,-70.3548059,3a,15y,307.01h,83.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTsavsYYdoQZ1OfY03qKcpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
The newer style uses the region number (in this case III REGION) instead of the region name.
Quote from: NE2 on June 10, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
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https://www.google.com/maps/@-27.4135448,-70.3548059,3a,15y,307.01h,83.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTsavsYYdoQZ1OfY03qKcpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
The newer style uses the region number (in this case III REGION) instead of the region name.
Do you know if Jake Bear made it into Chile while he was down that way several years ago?
Unfortunately, it appears his photo blog website thingy has been deleted, so I cannot hunt through it for shields.
Quote from: J3ebrules on July 14, 2019, 07:24:24 PM
I've passed this sign a few times and wondered as to its date - I know that AAA used to post these predominantly in the 1910's - 1920's, but it just seems so... new? It's almost in TOO good condition? It's at the end of King's Highway in Haddonfield, NJ. Does anyone have an idea if this was a real original AAA sign from the 1920's?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw9ZBBRT/AF710-E44-8-D79-44-D9-B2-AB-C096067418-DA.jpg)
Wow, I don't recall seeing any of those, although I probably have. That certainly does look much newer than 80 years!
Do you collect any Jersey signage?
Quote from: spitball on June 19, 2020, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: J3ebrules on July 14, 2019, 07:24:24 PM
I've passed this sign a few times and wondered as to its date - I know that AAA used to post these predominantly in the 1910's - 1920's, but it just seems so... new? It's almost in TOO good condition? It's at the end of King's Highway in Haddonfield, NJ. Does anyone have an idea if this was a real original AAA sign from the 1920's?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw9ZBBRT/AF710-E44-8-D79-44-D9-B2-AB-C096067418-DA.jpg)
Wow, I don't recall seeing any of those, although I probably have. That certainly does look much newer than 80 years!
Do you collect any Jersey signage?
I don't; too expensive a hobby (although I love Turnpike stuff and would shell out for old Turnpike tickets).
There are a few in Camden County, all in decent shape although that's the cleanest one I've seen. If you're familiar with Haddonfield, it's on NJ 41 (Kings Highway) leaving the downtown area southbound.
Quote from: J3ebrules on June 20, 2020, 01:31:31 AM
Quote from: spitball on June 19, 2020, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: J3ebrules on July 14, 2019, 07:24:24 PM
I've passed this sign a few times and wondered as to its date - I know that AAA used to post these predominantly in the 1910's - 1920's, but it just seems so... new? It's almost in TOO good condition? It's at the end of King's Highway in Haddonfield, NJ. Does anyone have an idea if this was a real original AAA sign from the 1920's?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw9ZBBRT/AF710-E44-8-D79-44-D9-B2-AB-C096067418-DA.jpg)
Wow, I don't recall seeing any of those, although I probably have. That certainly does look much newer than 80 years!
Do you collect any Jersey signage?
I don't; too expensive a hobby (although I love Turnpike stuff and would shell out for old Turnpike tickets).
There are a few in Camden County, all in decent shape although that's the cleanest one I've seen. If you're familiar with Haddonfield, it's on NJ 41 (Kings Highway) leaving the downtown area southbound.
I don't know Haddonfield in great detail, though I definitely know where it is. I have always lived in North and Central Jersey.
Old US-20 shield that is still there as of June 2019. There used to be another one on the other side of the bridge but they replaced it several years ago. Haven't been that way in a while to know for sure if it's still there.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2360119,-88.8611447,3a,20.7y,31.42h,86.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0l41pCJdadVGdNOwjLmoIQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0l41pCJdadVGdNOwjLmoIQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D20.515038%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Also this guide sign near the location of the previous sign doesn't look like a typical IDOT install.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2395932,-88.8614565,3a,15y,214.99h,91.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSvsbsf5uOGWpzCJe4LAFzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Please include a short description of what or where your GSV links are showing.
Quote from: MrManlet on June 23, 2020, 01:03:44 AM
Still there as of June 2019. There used to be another one on the other side of the bridge but they replaced it several years ago. Haven't been that way in a while to know for sure if it's still there.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2360119,-88.8611447,3a,20.7y,31.42h,86.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0l41pCJdadVGdNOwjLmoIQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0l41pCJdadVGdNOwjLmoIQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D20.515038%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Also this sign near the location of the previous sign doesn't look like a typical IDOT install.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2395932,-88.8614565,3a,15y,214.99h,91.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSvsbsf5uOGWpzCJe4LAFzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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Remnant of an old numbering system in Ecuador.
http://www.google.com/maps/@0.0444321,-78.1471034,3a,15y,15.24h,82.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9soXuF5OgE60eeNxBmb0IA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Check out an awesome high resolution 1967 color photo of Downtown Chattanooga...this is a short slide presentation and the photo to see is the 2nd one:
https://chattanoogahistory.com/1967.php
In addition to a ton of lovely cutouts, two things of interest jumped out at me:
1. An I-124 shield on the right hand side
2. If you look carefully on both the cutouts and the non-cutout shields, the cardinal directions are *inside* the arrows, even the single direction ones. Tennessee still does a version of this on double-arrow panels but the letters are on the outside of the arrows.
This circular Mountain Parkway sign still kicks in Beattyville, KY. Not sure how many of these are left but some previous discussion (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12066.msg292542#msg292542) indicates no more than four.
(https://i.imgur.com/lveQ09g.jpg)
Wasn't sure what topic to post this in, but it's an old sign, so it fits.
Quote from: csw on June 25, 2020, 01:18:44 PM
This circular Mountain Parkway sign still kicks in Beattyville, KY. Not sure how many of these are left but some previous discussion (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12066.msg292542#msg292542) indicates no more than four.
(https://i.imgur.com/lveQ09g.jpg)
Wasn't sure what topic to post this in, but it's an old sign, so it fits.
I wants it.
Quote from: Rothman on June 25, 2020, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: csw on June 25, 2020, 01:18:44 PM
This circular Mountain Parkway sign still kicks in Beattyville, KY. Not sure how many of these are left but some previous discussion (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12066.msg292542#msg292542) indicates no more than four.
(https://i.imgur.com/lveQ09g.jpg)
Wasn't sure what topic to post this in, but it's an old sign, so it fits.
I wants it.
That route isn't even KY-52 anymore either. A true relic of the past.
From Fakebook: 1960's era AR 16, plus old cutout shield in the background.
Fayettevile, Arkansas College Ave at Rock St
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105897494_10220158459544153_2387232439146409339_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=89GC-aM8O_QAX9qUSmT&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=c8766918ab7bc2bcd9e9a5a1b4d3e04a&oe=5F19F60B)
Quote from: US71 on June 25, 2020, 07:22:49 PM
From Fakebook: 1960's era AR 16, plus old cutout shield in the background.
Fayettevile, Arkansas College Ave at Rock St
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105897494_10220158459544153_2387232439146409339_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=89GC-aM8O_QAX9qUSmT&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=c8766918ab7bc2bcd9e9a5a1b4d3e04a&oe=5F19F60B)
What that intersection looks like today.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0607231,-94.1579784,3a,90y,2.96h,88.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s30nvH0PViTRfQH8B-B3nWQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Quote from: MrManlet on June 25, 2020, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 25, 2020, 07:22:49 PM
From Fakebook: 1960's era AR 16, plus old cutout shield in the background.
Fayettevile, Arkansas College Ave at Rock St
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105897494_10220158459544153_2387232439146409339_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=89GC-aM8O_QAX9qUSmT&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=c8766918ab7bc2bcd9e9a5a1b4d3e04a&oe=5F19F60B)
What that intersection looks like today.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0607231,-94.1579784,3a,90y,2.96h,88.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s30nvH0PViTRfQH8B-B3nWQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
16 got rerouted in the early 70s along 15th St. This was always a clusterf*ck intersection.
Quote from: US71 on June 25, 2020, 09:02:36 PM
Quote from: MrManlet on June 25, 2020, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 25, 2020, 07:22:49 PM
From Fakebook: 1960's era AR 16, plus old cutout shield in the background.
Fayettevile, Arkansas College Ave at Rock St
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105897494_10220158459544153_2387232439146409339_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=89GC-aM8O_QAX9qUSmT&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=c8766918ab7bc2bcd9e9a5a1b4d3e04a&oe=5F19F60B)
What that intersection looks like today.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0607231,-94.1579784,3a,90y,2.96h,88.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s30nvH0PViTRfQH8B-B3nWQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
16 got rerouted in the early 70s along 15th St. This was always a clusterf*ck intersection.
People were basically like oh crap because they were scrambling to make the right turn onto 16 right at the end of the curve. In general, the old 16 routing was just a mess of zig-zag turns through the city. Many of the old buildings downtown got torn down for the University as seen on GSV. The Historic Aerials website also does a good job showing where the old routes used to go under the topos tab.
Quote from: MrManlet on June 25, 2020, 09:07:55 PM
People were basically like oh crap because they were scrambling to make the right turn onto 16 right at the end of the curve. In general, the old 16 routing was just a mess of zig-zag turns through the city. Many of the old buildings downtown got torn down for the University as seen on GSV. The Historic Aerials website also does a good job showing where the old routes used to go under the topos tab.
I grew up there, so I remember a lot of that. Plus I have a full run of ARDOT maps from 1938+
Quote from: MrManlet on June 25, 2020, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 25, 2020, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: csw on June 25, 2020, 01:18:44 PM
This circular Mountain Parkway sign still kicks in Beattyville, KY. Not sure how many of these are left but some previous discussion (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12066.msg292542#msg292542) indicates no more than four.
(https://i.imgur.com/lveQ09g.jpg)
Wasn't sure what topic to post this in, but it's an old sign, so it fits.
I wants it.
That route isn't even KY-52 anymore either. A true relic of the past.
You guys know that's where I live, right?
And that route is KY 52. KY 11 and KY 52 are concurrent for a short stretch. I'm not sure how long the arrows have been gone, but this is where KY 52 used to turn right to join the KY 11 concurrency.
There are three of the circular markers left -- this one and two in Salyersville. There's an old-style marker on a square blank at the intersection of US 60 and KY 627 (West Lexington Avenue and Maple Street) in Winchester. You see it at the intersection as you go east on US 60.
Quote from: US71 on June 25, 2020, 07:22:49 PM
From Fakebook: 1960's era AR 16, plus old cutout shield in the background
"Fakebook"? I don't know what you are referring to, but my initial thought was that it was from a website that made fake images (thus making this image fake).
Quote from: jakeroot on July 02, 2020, 12:57:41 PM
"Fakebook"?
One of the few things worth reading on
Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fakebook). :-D
Quote from: kphoger on July 02, 2020, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 02, 2020, 12:57:41 PM
"Fakebook"?
One of the few things worth reading on Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fakebook). :-D
I coined that term
without Urban Dictionary, though it's not surprising others are using it.
UDOT recently posted this: "Here's a #TBT of westbound I-80 approaching I-15 in South Salt Lake in 1971. There are a LOT more ramps at this interchange now."
(https://i.imgur.com/tlTWAwI.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/utahdot/photos/a.10150218453701715/10157941247506715/?type=3&theater
^^^^
Good evidence that older signs are not necessarily better.
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2020, 03:17:45 PM
^^^^
Good evidence that older signs are not necessarily better.
Also that bigger signs are not necessarily a waste of space.
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2020, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2020, 03:17:45 PM
^^^^
Good evidence that older signs are not necessarily better.
Also that bigger signs are not necessarily a waste of space.
Indeed. From the looks of it, the sign size came first; message second.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvbrTllT.png%3F1&hash=e71288a643b34c81d634c15f244e667cd36bde43)
Older shield for Sao Paulo state highways. The newer design (https://www.google.com/maps/@-23.5727429,-46.7113421,3a,15y,159.08h,111.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSaC5S1B3MS7jbiOo5GTdTw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is black on white with no state outline.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-23.5767284,-46.7213757,3a,15y,343.59h,98.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR0BGtrKT2xiTC0Mn6Ey8_Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Indiana Toll Road sign, photo from January 1976:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8642/16641888658_f69a4b3c45_b.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/rmA2GN)Indiana (https://flic.kr/p/rmA2GN) by Edward Hand (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/), on Flickr
That is how signage should look! If not for the "acid rain", the button copy signs would have been longer lasting without the "draining" paint that seemed to be on a lot of older signs.
Also, excellent "classic" I-80 and I-90 signage. In the title of a country song by Boy Howdy, in 1994, "They Don't Make 'Em Like That Anymore".
This rare Utah button‐copy Rest Area wayfinder is still standing. This at I-70.Exit 86:
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/GwRbxmUtM9wN (https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/GwRbxmUtM9wN)
Like the rest area itself, it has probably remained untouched since the 80s.
Quote from: thenetwork on September 27, 2020, 03:17:32 AM
This rare Utah button‐copy Rest Area wayfinder is still standing. This at I-70.Exit 86:
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/GwRbxmUtM9wN (https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/GwRbxmUtM9wN)
Like the rest area itself, it has probably remained untouched since the 80s.
You would need to save the photo and upload it elsewhere for us to see that after 24 hours (since the link has now expired).
Corco has a picture of it on his site, on the page for UT-76.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 30, 2020, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 27, 2020, 03:17:32 AM
This rare Utah button‐copy Rest Area wayfinder is still standing. This at I-70.Exit 86:
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/GwRbxmUtM9wN (https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/GwRbxmUtM9wN)
Like the rest area itself, it has probably remained untouched since the 80s.
You would need to save the photo and upload it elsewhere for us to see that after 24 hours (since the link has now expired).
From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch archives: "In April 1958, state highway workers installed a sign identifying the Interregional as part of the Ozark Expressway, later known as Interstate 55. The view is looking north."
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/history/a-look-back-1950s-expressway-gave-a-taste-of-a-bigger-system-to-come/article_712bd135-dc0b-51b7-a6d8-f83701058e35.html
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/b8/eb8adc1d-62c4-5f53-972a-aaf3bc6cc54f/4e9b356fb1a22.image.jpg)
Not sure if this old sign for the Burlington Way is known to us: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2182005,-90.1440036,3a,20.3y,328.02h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMz5DLXMZSN19XSO_2lnTDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
A couple neat old shots of I-75 signage in Northern Kentucky, courtesy of the Kenton County Public Library:
I believe this is where exit 189 (Fort Wright/Park Hills) currently is, but it looks completely different today. "Lookout Heights" is something I've never seen on any area signage.
(https://i.imgur.com/Gz9skgOh.jpg)
https://facesandplaces.kentonlibrary.org/viewimage.php?i=di05609&x=f
How quaint! Look at that adorable four-lane highway with grassy knolls next to the exits and "Kentucky" on the shield (where's the other one??). Obviously a hell of a lot different nowadays.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q4A6egSh.jpg)
https://facesandplaces.kentonlibrary.org/viewimage.php?i=di05610&x=f
Overhead lighting structures. Don't think I ever saw those in Kentucky. There are still a few gantries with remnants of underneath lights, but they obviously are no longer functional.
Series D (or is that C?) on the capital F and W, Series E(M) on the rest of "Fort Wright". What?
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 04, 2021, 02:10:21 AM
Series D (or is that C?) on the capital F and W, Series E(M) on the rest of "Fort Wright". What?
I think that's either a function of camera angle, or the sign possibly being bent a little backwards on the left edge.
Quote from: hbelkins on October 04, 2021, 09:12:43 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 04, 2021, 02:10:21 AM
Series D (or is that C?) on the capital F and W, Series E(M) on the rest of "Fort Wright". What?
I think that's either a function of camera angle, or the sign possibly being bent a little backwards on the left edge.
Here it is perspective-corrected.
(https://i.imgur.com/LTxB5Ab.png)
Still pretty sure that's a series mismatch. Note how much thinner the strokes on the F and W are than the other characters.
EDIT: the reddit thread OP deleted the post and the imgur pic, so unfortunately there's nothing to see now.
Reddit thread about Blue Angels landing at Moffett Field, with all 3 northbound lanes of US 101 (Mountain View, CA) stopped: https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/q5pm72/moffett_field_1970s_photo_by_gary_fong/
Technically, the Ellis St sign is old (and gone), but the 237 sign is still up: https://goo.gl/maps/gcZAzFtpsK6J2F6MA
A sign for Business Loop 80 in Lincoln, Nebraska:
(https://i.imgur.com/6yyPOsH.png)
Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/86705869/business-loop-80-signs-up-for/
From the WSDOT Archives:
Installing the first state route shields on SR 512 after the 1964 highway renumbering. The left sign might say "To U.S. 99".
(https://i.imgur.com/VbUsDL8.png)
And an "arch of signs" made for the opening of the Kent Freeway (SR 167):
(https://i.imgur.com/EyNyTh0.png)
Neon signs in the Mount Baker Tunnel (US 10 in Seattle), 1940:
(https://i.imgur.com/OSzj8TP.jpg)
Quote from: Bruce on October 14, 2021, 02:22:06 AM
From the WSDOT Archives:
Installing the first state route shields on SR 512 after the 1964 highway renumbering. The left sign might say "To U.S. 99".
(https://i.imgur.com/VbUsDL8.png)
Is that really a spelling error? ('hTe'.)
That's pretty cool to see. I always wondered if SSH 5G was signed or not, since the renumbering occurred prior to so much of WA-512's construction.
Quote from: jakeroot on October 15, 2021, 10:34:57 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 14, 2021, 02:22:06 AM
From the WSDOT Archives:
Installing the first state route shields on SR 512 after the 1964 highway renumbering. The left sign might say "To U.S. 99".
(https://i.imgur.com/VbUsDL8.png)
Is that really a spelling error? ('hTe'.)
That's pretty cool to see. I always wondered if SSH 5G was signed or not, since the renumbering occurred prior to so much of WA-512's construction.
It was signed, but mostly on 112th and other streets. The freeway section west of Steele was already complete by 1964, though.
A nice prank sign from 1958:
(https://i.imgur.com/aTmQrSL.png)
A painting depicting the installation of a US 40 marker in Ohio, made by Carl Rakeman (the BPR artist of the time).
(https://i.imgur.com/dNFmHpb.jpg)
Source: FHWA, via WTTW (https://interactive.wttw.com/ten/streets/national-road)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCO1BaWV.jpeg&hash=eda6b557214d88b23c5f55a9c5ab003e059a2aed)
from https://archive.org/details/annualreportsofs1924mary/page/n5/mode/2up
Tennessee State line sign, circa 1969:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8640/16642125218_72f93b0344_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rmBf2q)
Tennessee (https://flic.kr/p/rmBf2q) by Edward Hand (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/), on Flickr
Many more older state line signs, towards the end of the album's fifth page.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/albums/72157651348480552/page5
Quote from: formulanone on August 21, 2022, 08:34:03 PM
Tennessee State line sign, circa 1969:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8640/16642125218_72f93b0344_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rmBf2q)
Tennessee (https://flic.kr/p/rmBf2q) by Edward Hand (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/), on Flickr
Many more older state line signs, towards the end of the album's fifth page.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/albums/72157651348480552/page5
Is the mini flag on the bottom right a Confederate symbol, perchance? :hmmm:
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on August 21, 2022, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 21, 2022, 08:34:03 PM
Tennessee State line sign, circa 1969:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8640/16642125218_72f93b0344_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rmBf2q)
Tennessee (https://flic.kr/p/rmBf2q) by Edward Hand (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/), on Flickr
Many more older state line signs, towards the end of the album's fifth page.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130975381@N03/albums/72157651348480552/page5
Is the mini flag on the bottom right a Confederate symbol, perchance? :hmmm:
It's their state flag...
Overhead sign at the (at the time) CT 2/17 split in Glastonbury, from the June 1956 Highway Department "Cuts and Fills" newsletter:
(https://i.imgur.com/VOgEiyp.png)
This is now CT 17 southbound at the left exit to New London Turnpike eastbound. The Turnpike became SR 582 when CT 2 was relocated in 1964, but is a town road now. There have been rumblings about decreasing the interchange footprint to a diamond to free up some land.
The sign is white on a blue background; letters and numbers are porcelainized. Later the sign will be illuminated.
Snowy street scene of Route 25/109 intersection (now US 202 and CT 209; street view (https://goo.gl/maps/oyJZFwhvKwSkVzGV7)) in Bantam, 1942. Zoom in for some nice classic 25 and 109 route markers (shown below; but the complete photo is at the Reddit link).
(https://i.imgur.com/gIJOnzP.png)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Connecticut/comments/4hxzs8/bantam_connecticut_the_business_section_of_bantam/
Oil truck under overpass after hitting interstate signs, Hartford, February 7, 1969 (https://ctdigitalarchive.org/islandora/object/50002%3A19376) (Hartford Times; hosted at CT Digital Archive)
Truck takes down a sign bridge on I-84 EB right before the incomplete interchange at I-91 (the famous Morgan Street exit to 91 north)