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US 70 over San Augustin Pass

Started by Max Rockatansky, November 12, 2023, 07:06:56 PM

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Max Rockatansky

San Augustin Pass is a gap in the Organ Mountains, San Augustin Mountains and San Andres in Dona Ana County east of Las Cruces.  San Augustin Pass lies an elevation of approximately 5,600 feet above sea level and was originally traversed by New Mexico State Route 3.  US Route 70 would be realigned over San Augustin Pass during 1934 when it was extended to Los Angeles, California.  During 1963 US Route 82 would be extended through San Augustin Pass to Las Cruces.  Since the early the early 1990s signage of US Route 82 has been withdrawn to Alamogordo.  San Augustin Pass and US Route 70 are largely known for the numerous closures due to test firings originating from the White Sands Missile Range. 

https://www.gribblenation.org/2023/11/us-route-70-over-san-augustin-pass.html?m=1


abqtraveler

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 12, 2023, 07:06:56 PM
San Augustin Pass is a gap in the Organ Mountains, San Augustin Mountains and San Andres in Dona Ana County east of Las Cruces.  San Augustin Pass lies an elevation of approximately 5,600 feet above sea level and was originally traversed by New Mexico State Route 3.  US Route 70 would be realigned over San Augustin Pass during 1934 when it was extended to Los Angeles, California.  During 1963 US Route 82 would be extended through San Augustin Pass to Las Cruces.  Since the early the early 1990s signage of US Route 82 has been withdrawn to Alamogordo.  San Augustin Pass and US Route 70 are largely known for the numerous closures due to test firings originating from the White Sands Missile Range. 

https://www.gribblenation.org/2023/11/us-route-70-over-san-augustin-pass.html?m=1
Given that US-82 has been truncated back to the intersection of White Sands Boulevard and the Alamogrodo Relief Route at the northern end of Alamogordo, I still find plenty of remnant US-82 signs between Alamogordo and Las Cruces. There are several remnant US-82 signs on White Sands Boulevard through Alamogordo, and a few on intersecting roads approaching US-70 through White Sands Missile Range.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: abqtraveler on November 14, 2023, 10:36:46 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 12, 2023, 07:06:56 PM
San Augustin Pass is a gap in the Organ Mountains, San Augustin Mountains and San Andres in Dona Ana County east of Las Cruces.  San Augustin Pass lies an elevation of approximately 5,600 feet above sea level and was originally traversed by New Mexico State Route 3.  US Route 70 would be realigned over San Augustin Pass during 1934 when it was extended to Los Angeles, California.  During 1963 US Route 82 would be extended through San Augustin Pass to Las Cruces.  Since the early the early 1990s signage of US Route 82 has been withdrawn to Alamogordo.  San Augustin Pass and US Route 70 are largely known for the numerous closures due to test firings originating from the White Sands Missile Range. 

https://www.gribblenation.org/2023/11/us-route-70-over-san-augustin-pass.html?m=1
Given that US-82 has been truncated back to the intersection of White Sands Boulevard and the Alamogrodo Relief Route at the northern end of Alamogordo, I still find plenty of remnant US-82 signs between Alamogordo and Las Cruces. There are several remnant US-82 signs on White Sands Boulevard through Alamogordo, and a few on intersecting roads approaching US-70 through White Sands Missile Range.

In reality it hasn't been truncated, the signage has been just poorly withdrawn.  New Mexico gave it the US 85 treatment and just refuses to sign to Las Cruces or submit a truncation application to AASHTO.  To your point, there is some left over US 82 signage if you look carefully.

US 89

Aren't there still some new-ish US 80 signs in Deming or Lordsburg? NM has huge volumes of old signage even on routes that have been moved or truncated. I know there were US 66 signs in Albuquerque until quite recently.

As another example, looking only at signs on the ground, the routes of US 54 and 84 through Santa Rosa are...ambiguous to say the least.

abqtraveler

Quote from: US 89 on November 14, 2023, 11:25:22 PM
Aren't there still some new-ish US 80 signs in Deming or Lordsburg? NM has huge volumes of old signage even on routes that have been moved or truncated. I know there were US 66 signs in Albuquerque until quite recently.

As another example, looking only at signs on the ground, the routes of US 54 and 84 through Santa Rosa are...ambiguous to say the least.
You can still find remnant Business I-40/US-66 signs along Central Avenue in Albuquerque.  Here's a recent GSV of one near Old Town.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0946185,-106.6705748,3a,75y,119.83h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scYVBrhHBUsnUATYZQWOyzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

DJStephens

That appears to be a fairly "newish" panel.   In typical error fashion, they denoted "66" in the black and white standard sheild, instead of the brown bordered "historic 66" sheild that should have been used. 

kphoger

Quote from: abqtraveler on November 15, 2023, 10:41:33 AM
You can still find remnant Business I-40/US-66 signs along Central Avenue in Albuquerque.  Here's a recent GSV of one near Old Town.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0946185,-106.6705748,3a,75y,119.83h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scYVBrhHBUsnUATYZQWOyzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Quote from: DJStephens on February 28, 2024, 11:17:08 AM
That appears to be a fairly "newish" panel.   In typical error fashion, they denoted "66" in the black and white standard sheild, instead of the brown bordered "historic 66" sheild that should have been used. 

Judging by GSV, it appears to have been installed during 2017 road construction.
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