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Title: New roadway type.
Post by: Tonytone on May 12, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
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A new roadway that can *fix* ("when heat is applied") it self when it has a pothole. It says the roadway is 25% more expensive. This is revolutionary.


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Title: Re: New roadway type.
Post by: txstateends on May 15, 2017, 12:37:54 PM
So the surface material 'knows' when there's a pothole?  I guess if Dallas had this--well, that would mean Dallas would stop being so anti-street-repair and focus less on other things, and I'm not sure when that'll happen  :-|
Title: Re: New roadway type.
Post by: kalvado on May 15, 2017, 06:17:33 PM
First - I wonder how big is the defect which can be repaired. Probably not a full size pothole, more like tiny cracks
How steel would affect tire lifetime? How would (cheap, I suppose) steel rust? Would material be as dense after reheat without applying pressure, or heater would need an integrating roller?
I guess there are some more issues between the demo and paving of interstate..
Title: Re: New roadway type.
Post by: jakeroot on May 15, 2017, 07:31:04 PM
From Inhabitat: The Netherlands is developing self-healing roads that fix potholes automatically (https://goo.gl/oDurFX):

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Materials scientist Erik Schlangen, chair of Experimental MicroMechanics at Delft University of Technology, is working on self-healing asphalt. He mixed steel fibers with asphalt to make the material conductive, and then when a large induction machine is run over the asphalt, heat helps close any cracks. The Verge pointed out since the machine is necessary, the asphalt isn't entirely self-healing, but it does allow for easier repairs.
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Self-healing asphalt is undergoing testing on 12 roads in the Netherlands; one has been open since 2010 and all are in excellent condition. Regular asphalt roads tend to stay in good condition for seven to 10 years, however, so Schlangen said in upcoming years the difference will be clearer. He said self-healing asphalt could be 25 percent more expensive than typical asphalt, but could last twice as long.
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Schlangen's team is also looking at adding bacteria to concrete to make it self-healing as well. Bacteria produce calcium carbonate to fill in cracks. Schlangen said these bacteria can live for over 200 years in nature, so they'll last for the lifetime of concrete...The scientists have applied the material to some structures and are working to improve it
Title: Re: New roadway type.
Post by: sparker on May 15, 2017, 08:27:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 15, 2017, 07:31:04 PM
From Inhabitat: The Netherlands is developing self-healing roads that fix potholes automatically (https://goo.gl/oDurFX):

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Materials scientist Erik Schlangen, chair of Experimental MicroMechanics at Delft University of Technology, is working on self-healing asphalt. He mixed steel fibers with asphalt to make the material conductive, and then when a large induction machine is run over the asphalt, heat helps close any cracks. The Verge pointed out since the machine is necessary, the asphalt isn't entirely self-healing, but it does allow for easier repairs.
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Self-healing asphalt is undergoing testing on 12 roads in the Netherlands; one has been open since 2010 and all are in excellent condition. Regular asphalt roads tend to stay in good condition for seven to 10 years, however, so Schlangen said in upcoming years the difference will be clearer. He said self-healing asphalt could be 25 percent more expensive than typical asphalt, but could last twice as long.
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Schlangen's team is also looking at adding bacteria to concrete to make it self-healing as well. Bacteria produce calcium carbonate to fill in cracks. Schlangen said these bacteria can live for over 200 years in nature, so they'll last for the lifetime of concrete...The scientists have applied the material to some structures and are working to improve it

The conductive material within the asphalt structure would have to be electrically isolated from the adjoining earth base (possibly via a non-conductive substrate) or any current applied to it would just see an effective ground and drain away without any effect.  Now -- if the steel material was arranged in such a way as with a wirewound resistor (in a tight coil), then current would have to go through a relatively large resistance on its way to ground and thus heating up the "virtual resistor" -- and ostensibly achieving the goal of melting the surrounding asphalt.  It'd be tricky to apply, and more apt to be used in new construction or complete rebuilds rather than simple asphalt overlays.  Personally, I'd like to see this concept tested in the US; it is a novel solution to a persistent problem. 

Now -- whether adding a conductive (or semi-conductive) plane to the pavement might disrupt communications poses an issue that will need to be addressed before any mass deployment of this technology takes place!
Title: New roadway type.
Post by: Tonytone on March 11, 2019, 10:15:36 PM
Well looks like this Thread just got revived. Check this out yall!

https://youtu.be/yXKglt_mkg8 (https://youtu.be/yXKglt_mkg8)