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Started by CtrlAltDel, January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM

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Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D
God created Google Maps for a reason.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.


D-Dey65

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.


LM117

This clusterfuck that I used to drive through all the time in Goldsboro, NC. So many insurance claims were filed here. So many...

https://goo.gl/maps/EWgnVfEV6c42
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Rothman

That's just a normal intersection in New England. :D
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Hurricane Rex

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.
I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.
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webny99

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D
God created Google Maps for a reason.

Hey, can't say I didn't give you a chance to post a link :D I did look it up, though.

Brandon

Marquette & Jones, Joliet, IL.  Only saving grace is that it is on low-volume streets.
Arnold, Oak, & Division, Plainfield, IL.
Niles Center & Skokie, Skokie, IL.
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hotdogPi

How about the 12-exit roundabout in Paris? European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

Has anyone been through that 12-exit roundabout?
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US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Voyager75

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 11, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM


I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


iPhone
Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

It's probably not the best exit to be taken by out of towner's for sure.


iPhone

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kphoger

Quote from: Brandon on January 12, 2018, 12:33:12 PM
Marquette & Jones, Joliet, IL.  Only saving grace is that it is on low-volume streets.
Arnold, Oak, & Division, Plainfield, IL.
Niles Center & Skokie, Skokie, IL.

The first two look pretty normal to me.  The first one, in fact, reminds me of this one in Whetaon.




Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
How about the 12-exit roundabout in Paris? European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

Has anyone been through that 12-exit roundabout?

I've been there on foot, but not by car.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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Flint1979

Quote from: Voyager75 on January 12, 2018, 12:48:46 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 11, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM


I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


iPhone
Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

It's probably not the best exit to be taken by out of towner's for sure.


iPhone
I have never liked Cracker Barrel's locations. It seems like they do this kind of thing with every location. Get off the Interstate, turn, make another turn, and sometimes even more turns to get to the store.

hotdogPi

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 12, 2018, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: Voyager75 on January 12, 2018, 12:48:46 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 11, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: Voyager75 on January 11, 2018, 11:06:16 AM


I-459/US 280 southeast of Birmingham. This entire intersection needs to be nuked. The 500 ft of 4 lanes merging off 459 onto 280 is ludicrous and has to be experienced and not explained to see why. 


iPhone
Just looking at the route needed to take to get to the Cracker Barrel is nuts.

It's probably not the best exit to be taken by out of towner's for sure.


iPhone
I have never liked Cracker Barrel's locations. It seems like they do this kind of thing with every location. Get off the Interstate, turn, make another turn, and sometimes even more turns to get to the store.

The ones in Tewksbury MA and Londonderry NH don't require extra turns, and those are the two I am familiar with.

Side note: When you quote a post with an image, especially one that's 1334 pixels tall, you should reduce its size (make sure it's proportional to the original). Reducing it to ⅒ like I did isn't required, but it should be reduced at least some.
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Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Bickendan

I present: Hollywood, Portland, Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5339244,-122.6229641,18z/data=!3m1!1e3
You have Sandy Blvd, Broadway, Halsey St, 37th Ave, 39th Ave (Cesar Chavez Blvd), 42nd Ave, 43rd Ave*, and I-84/US 30 all converging, with Hancock St, and Tillamook St, and number of side streets thrown in.

The 'through' movements are: Broadway-Halsey (EB: Broadway-37th-Halsey; WB: Halsey-39th-Broadway), 39th-42nd (NB: 39th-Sandy-Broadway-42nd or 39th-Hancock-42nd or 39th-Tillamook-42nd; SB: 42nd-Halsey-39th); Sandy; the freeway.

37th is southbound only from Broadway to Sandy; Halsey is eastbound only from Sandy to 39th (with a slipramp under 39th for through traffic); 39th is northbound only from Halsey to Hancock. Broadway is eastbound only from 39th to 42nd, but westbound only from 39th to 38th (and it was recently converted from westbound only to two-way from 38th to 37th!).

*43rd is the WB offramp from the freeway, and is even signed as 43rd Ave. Even better, and not really related to this mess, it's the first westbound exit after I-205, and the first surface exit after 181st Ave!

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D
God created Google Maps for a reason.

And Google Maps gave the ability to share a location for a reason.

Rothman

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2018, 02:38:03 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: webny99 on January 12, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Haven't seen anything close to Kelley Square in nuttiness in these examples. :D

I can't state my opinion on that subject, since we don't have street view or the likes for Kelley Square  :D
God created Google Maps for a reason.

And Google Maps gave the ability to share a location for a reason.
Just look it up.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

SectorZ

Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

[citation needed]

kphoger

Quote from: SectorZ on January 12, 2018, 04:38:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

[common knowledge]

FTFY
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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Male pronouns, please.

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SectorZ

Quote from: kphoger on January 12, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on January 12, 2018, 04:38:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
European drivers are better than American drivers, so at least they can handle it.

[common knowledge]

FTFY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Looks like depending on the stats you want to believe, we're better. Also, they're better. Again, dependent on what stats you want to believe.

(My comparison is based on Europe the continent as a whole and the US as a country).

JKRhodes

Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 12, 2018, 12:00:17 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.

Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.
I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

Similar intersection in Nogales, Arizona at 82 and Grand Ave:

https://goo.gl/maps/UrVChhSeo782

Due to terrain and adjacent railroad.

jakeroot

Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 11, 2018, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/oszfoy.jpg
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

I think it has to be white. It's on the right edge of all the lanes that pass by it.

NE2

Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2018, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 11, 2018, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/oszfoy.jpg
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

I think it has to be white. It's on the right edge of all the lanes that pass by it.
Not the triangle. The crescent to the left.
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#47
Quote from: NE2 on January 12, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2018, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 11, 2018, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
For starters, this would be a normal T-intersection, except that something went very wrong.
http://i65.tinypic.com/oszfoy.jpg
(This is actually from an old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16297 )

What looks like an inner right turn lane for SB to WB I think is intended for traffic turning NB from EB.  The white painted island is what makes it look screwed up.  It should have yellow paint to indicate it is separating directions of travel.

I think it has to be white. It's on the right edge of all the lanes that pass by it.

Not the triangle. The crescent to the left.

Oh, duh. Saw "island"...immediately assumed the triangle in the middle. Definitely not sure why the painted "crescent" is white.

EDIT: Looks like it's white because it starts as an island between two through lanes, but then becomes an island between two opposing lanes. But they didn't feel like making half the island half white, half yellow.

jakeroot

#48
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 12, 2018, 12:00:17 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
Since No one has shut me down, OR 18/OR 99W in Dundee OR.


Ehh, there's something similar on US 1 south of the Quantico Marine Base. If you want insane, try New York State Route 112 at Roosevelt Avenue, State Street and Scranton Road, all converging on the old Port Jefferson-Patchogue Highway in Port Jefferson Station.

I didn't know there was another one that existed that was like that. That's the first and only one I was aware of.

I'm not sure how often you venture up into Washington, but there's a very similar interchange at WA-522's terminus at US-2 in Monroe (only difference being the inclusion of an extra slip ramp for NB-to-EB). Built this way due to a railway paralleling US-2 (same reason the interchange you posted is built the way it is).


Eth

Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2018, 06:33:33 PM
I'm not sure how often you venture up into Washington, but there's a very similar interchange at WA-522's terminus at US-2 in Monroe (only difference being the inclusion of an extra slip ramp for NB-to-EB. Built this way due to a railway paralleling US-2 (same reason the interchange you posted is built the way it is).



That's somewhat reminiscent of the end of GA 20 at US 19/41, except that it involves an extra turn for GA 20 and I'm pretty sure the railroad is far enough away that an overpass wasn't strictly required. (I don't think there are any plans to extend GA 20, though the intersection design does sort of suggest otherwise.)



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