I heard that SR 22 through Kokomo was now City maintained, however, SR 22 is still signed. This went into effect in 2014. Is SR 22 removed?
IN 22 was eliminated between the new US 31/35 and Galveston Rd. They may just be slow in taking down signs.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 30, 2016, 07:04:17 AM
IN 22 was eliminated between the new US 31/35 and Galveston Rd. They may just be slow in taking down signs.
I hope they never take them down. Enough of these split routes.
931 will go away eventually too
Quote from: silverback1065 on November 30, 2016, 05:40:42 PM
931 will go away eventually too
At least removing 931 makes a little bit of sense, as there is a far superior alternative route. But removing SR22 makes no sense at all as those trying to get from one side of the city to another or trying to follow SR22 could easily get lost because there are two important turns to make. :pan:
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is California. A lot of their routes make no sense.
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is California. A lot of their routes make no sense.
But most of California's gaps are due to uncompleted construction projects, no? Or maybe I just can't think of the right examples off of the top of my head?
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 12:08:27 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is California. A lot of their routes make no sense.
But most of California's gaps are due to uncompleted construction projects, no? Or maybe I just can't think of the right examples off of the top of my head?
The only gap I know of that is similar to 22 is ca-160 through downtown Sacramento. Ca-2 has some weird gaps in it as does ca-1
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 12:08:27 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is California. A lot of their routes make no sense.
But most of California's gaps are due to uncompleted construction projects, no? Or maybe I just can't think of the right examples off of the top of my head?
The only gap I know of that is similar to 22 is ca-160 through downtown Sacramento. Ca-2 has some weird gaps in it as does ca-1
Wow, I never knew about the gap in CA-160! :wow: That really is messed up. I am more forgiving of the gaps in CA-1 and CA-2 because you can assume some fairly logical concurrences. I do agree that signage would be nice though. :nod:
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 12:08:27 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is California. A lot of their routes make no sense.
But most of California's gaps are due to uncompleted construction projects, no? Or maybe I just can't think of the right examples off of the top of my head?
The only gap I know of that is similar to 22 is ca-160 through downtown Sacramento. Ca-2 has some weird gaps in it as does ca-1
Wow, I never knew about the gap in CA-160! :wow: That really is messed up. I am more forgiving of the gaps in CA-1 and CA-2 because you can assume some fairly logical concurrences. I do agree that signage would be nice though. :nod:
Ca requires signage to be maintained most of the time when they decommission a route
Quote from: billtm on December 03, 2016, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 03, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Ya currently, 22 just dies on the west side of town, then reappears at the 31 interchange.
Do you know if Indiana is currently the only state to have this problem of routes having gaps the size of cities? :hmmm: I would think that more people would write to their state reps about this, as it makes no logical sense. Also, the fix seems simple enough to me: just create business routes, and pass a law that says business routes don't have to be maintained by the state.
There is a law in the Indiana Code that already allows this under the idea that the city/town manages the route. Although the idea seems to work more in this state with roadways that have been bypassed. SR 931 would be a good candidate for Business U.S. 31, although having a nine in front of the state highway practically makes it the same thing. Turning an actual gap into a business highway hasn't been done before and I bet that few places do that even when they allow business routes.
I don't understand why Indiana doesn't do what Ohio does. State and US routes inside municipalities are owned and (depending on the size of the municipality) maintained by the municipalities, but route signage is continued over them so there's no gap.
Quote from: Bitmapped on December 03, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
I don't understand why Indiana doesn't do what Ohio does. State and US routes inside municipalities are owned and (depending on the size of the municipality) maintained by the municipalities, but route signage is continued over them so there's no gap.
SR 22 is still signed...
Quote from: Interstate 69 Fan on December 05, 2016, 10:20:59 AM
Quote from: Bitmapped on December 03, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
I don't understand why Indiana doesn't do what Ohio does. State and US routes inside municipalities are owned and (depending on the size of the municipality) maintained by the municipalities, but route signage is continued over them so there's no gap.
SR 22 is still signed...
not inside kokomo
Quote from: Bitmapped on December 03, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
I don't understand why Indiana doesn't do what Ohio does. State and US routes inside municipalities are owned and (depending on the size of the municipality) maintained by the municipalities, but route signage is continued over them so there's no gap.
Virginia does it too.
Quote from: dvferyance on November 30, 2016, 01:36:23 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 30, 2016, 07:04:17 AM
IN 22 was eliminated between the new US 31/35 and Galveston Rd. They may just be slow in taking down signs.
I hope they never take them down. Enough of these split routes.
For real. Permit loads must be impossible to accomplish in Indiana, with all the varying road jurisdictions trucks have to go through.