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Belichick is now the coach for UNC!

Started by snowc, December 10, 2024, 02:16:20 PM

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snowc

UNC offers coaching job to former Patriots coach Bill Belichick

The 72-year-old Belichick, who won six Super Bowls with the Patriots, has never coached in college football.
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Max Rockatansky

College job to go along with the 24 year old girlfriend.

Rothman

*Belichick shakes cane at those stupid kids who won't listen to him and get off his lawn*
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74/171FAN

The topic title is misleading because it is not even approved by the UNC Board of Trustees.

Having stated that, if this happens, this might actually get me interested in going to a Virginia Tech game when they play UNC.
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SectorZ

New Englanders watching the bloated corpse of a team he left behind are happy for him...

SEWIGuy

He will accept it only if UNC agrees to his terms - which he reportedly outlayed in a 400 page proposal that would require them to devote significanly more resources to the football program.

This is truly a terrible idea for UNC. He's 72 years old, wasn't great to end his career in New England, and wants his kid to succeed him.

Roadgeekteen

I really hope this happens because no matter how it goes it will be entertaining.
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Henry

Between this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.
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JayhawkCO

Quote from: Henry on December 10, 2024, 10:44:30 PMBetween this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.

Incredibly few pro coaches make it in the NCAA. Recruiting is a whole different animal to dealing with pros. Examples off the top of my head - Dave Wannstedt, Charlie Weis, Chan Gailey, Bill Callahan, etc.

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SEWIGuy

Quote from: JayhawkCO on December 11, 2024, 02:58:59 AM
Quote from: Henry on December 10, 2024, 10:44:30 PMBetween this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.

Incredibly few pro coaches make it in the NCAA. Recruiting is a whole different animal to dealing with pros. Examples off the top of my head - Dave Wannstedt, Charlie Weis, Chan Gailey, Bill Callahan, etc.

Pete Carroll was an obvious exception. And I think NFL coaches could learn a lot from what he did at USC. Recruit your a$$ off and make the concepts simple. Too many NFL coaches think that you can win with scheme. That just doesn't really work with 18-22 year olds who won in high school because they were so much better than anyone else.

davewiecking

Putting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.

Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)

SectorZ

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.

Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)

Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: SectorZ on December 11, 2024, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.

Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)

Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.

They had to. They were under a court order. Anyway, the big schools are running things now.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 11, 2024, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.

Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)

Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.

They had to. They were under a court order. Anyway, the big schools are running things now.

I'm fine with the NCAA being running into the ground or irrelevance.  It was a long time coming way before NIL was a reality.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 11, 2024, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 11, 2024, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.

Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)

Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.

They had to. They were under a court order. Anyway, the big schools are running things now.

I'm fine with the NCAA being running into the ground or irrelevance.  It was a long time coming way before NIL was a reality.


The NCAA has been poorly run. It was poorly run way before Charlie Baker got there. Basically its good for putting on championships and a recruiting calendar together. That's about it.

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Roadgeekteen

Wow. Never thought it would actually happen.
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Ted$8roadFan

It's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm

SectorZ

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm

I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm

I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.


What do you mean by "college habits?" I think college coaches are really good at coaching college athletes - many have adapted quite well to the new landscape.

I just don't know if BB can teach NFL-like concepts to athletes who are less knowledgeable than NFL players. Furthermore, does he know how to motivate these athletes and keep them engaged even if they aren't playing.

And let's see what staff he buildings. If he simply brings back his NFL staff, I don't think it works at all. He needs to add people who understand college football better.

epzik8

IMO he should have just retired
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Quote from: epzik8 on December 12, 2024, 01:23:07 PMIMO he should have just retired

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