Department of Redundancy Department

[TheArkansasRoadgeek]

What about this?

I think a barrier would be smart there. Quite a dip!

Nah, just needs a few dozen more signs, a few beacons (both regular and RRFB), a small air raid siren, and a giant neon sign that reads:
!DANGER!
   CLIFF

...for good measure.

You forgot the obligatory

  LITTER CONTROL
PROVIDED BY
ACME
CORPORATION

sign.

ACME Anything?

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/42264295060/in/dateposted-public/
How about this one!  If this is not redundant, what else could it be!

[MikeSantNY78]

On the New Jersey Turnpike, you will find two sets of exit signs in some places, and you can see them both.

Double carriageway in each direction (one of which is for Cars Only), from Exit 6 northward to the E-W leg split at Exit 15. 

[PHLBOS]

On the New Jersey Turnpike, you will find two sets of exit signs in some places, and you can see them both.

Double carriageway in each direction (one of which is for Cars Only), from Exit 6 northward to the E-W leg split at Exit 15. 

Are you aware that you're replying to a nearly-five-year-old post and that at least two similar replies were made back then?

Contributing to more redundancy perhaps? 

[formulanone]

Just 3s0 you're aware of 35Ohio State Route 350 on US 68:

[TBKS1]

I saw this while I was in Marianna a few months ago, I didn't get a photo of it, but here it is on Google Street View.



Google Street View Link

[hbelkins]

I saw this while I was in Marianna a few months ago, I didn't get a photo of it, but here it is on Google Street View.



Google Street View Link

Arkansas does that often.

[TBKS1]

I saw this while I was in Marianna a few months ago, I didn't get a photo of it, but here it is on Google Street View.



Google Street View Link

Arkansas does that often.

Yeah I know, I've seen that a lot here. I'm not really sure why we do it but eh.

I just felt like I should put it here.

[MNHighwayMan]

To be fair, to someone unfamiliar with the Arkansas system, a "Route 1B" without the business banner might not immediately mean "Business Route 1."

[kphoger]

To be fair, to someone unfamiliar with the Arkansas system, a "Route 1B" without the business banner might not immediately mean "Business Route 1."

If it weren't for the aaroads.com forum, I wouldn't have known that a 'B' after a route number indicated a business route.   Everywhere I've lived or spent much time driving uses the full [BUSINESS] banner instead.

[formulanone]

I'm guessing they either didn't want to use a "To" banner, for mixed it up. Old AR-1 presumably followed Alabama Avenue in Marianna:

[TheArkansasRoadgeek]

I'm guessing they either didn't want to use a "To" banner, for mixed it up. Old AR-1 presumably followed Alabama Avenue in Marianna:

AH, Arkansas route signage M1-6, instead of M1-5 (as in the SHS). Silly Arkansas!

[Mergingtraffic]

Is it SOUTH?

[bzakharin]

Is it SOUTH?

Well, considering 95 North is now signed on PA Turnpike East, it's not inconceivable. Then again, if this is located where I think it's located, there is no Turnpike North there. Then again, they signed the nonexistent Turnpike South here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6827538,-75.4799371,3a,37.5y,357.93h,94.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shsVnaHQF8478Z1XgGQkcjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[jeffandnicole]

Then again, they signed the nonexistent Turnpike South here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6827538,-75.4799371,3a,37.5y,357.93h,94.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shsVnaHQF8478Z1XgGQkcjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That sign has always been all sorts of messed up. Its not TO 295, it IS the ramp for 295 South. The gore sign only references 551 South with no mention of 295 South. And they generously gave it (NJ) Turnpike South, probably as there's no other way to access the NJ Turnpike South from the intersection just prior to this sign.

[bzakharin]

Then again, they signed the nonexistent Turnpike South here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6827538,-75.4799371,3a,37.5y,357.93h,94.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shsVnaHQF8478Z1XgGQkcjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That sign has always been all sorts of messed up. Its not TO 295, it IS the ramp for 295 South. The gore sign only references 551 South with no mention of 295 South. And they generously gave it (NJ) Turnpike South, probably as there's no other way to access the NJ Turnpike South from the intersection just prior to this sign.

Maybe they swapped the TO and the SOUTH by accident?

But my point is there *is* no Turnpike South at this point. It has ended (ok, not quite, but it's beyond the tolls, and the only thing it's doing is merging into I-295 South anyway)

[jeffandnicole]

Then again, they signed the nonexistent Turnpike South here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6827538,-75.4799371,3a,37.5y,357.93h,94.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shsVnaHQF8478Z1XgGQkcjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That sign has always been all sorts of messed up. Its not TO 295, it IS the ramp for 295 South. The gore sign only references 551 South with no mention of 295 South. And they generously gave it (NJ) Turnpike South, probably as there's no other way to access the NJ Turnpike South from the intersection just prior to this sign.

Maybe they swapped the TO and the SOUTH by accident?

There's this at the ramp entrance: https://goo.gl/maps/itk5ZoGV8DU2 .  No mention of 295 South whatsoever.  I always thought this sign really was meant for that ramp coming from the Flying J that appears to be for 295 South but is completely unsigned for where the ramp actually leads you: https://goo.gl/maps/p92isWsZnJv.

But my point is there *is* no Turnpike South at this point. It has ended (ok, not quite, but it's beyond the tolls, and the only thing it's doing is merging into I-295 South anyway)

Actually, it ends at the Rt. 49/130 bridge.  So after taking the ramp for 295 South and going around the sharp 35 mph curb, 295 and the Turnpike co-exist together for about 1,200 feet, and it appears based on the striping that the Turnpike has jurisdiction.  https://goo.gl/maps/4K7x2478usx

[bzakharin]

(ok, not quite, but it's beyond the tolls, and the only thing it's doing is merging into I-295 South anyway)

Actually, it ends at the Rt. 49/130 bridge.  So after taking the ramp for 295 South and going around the sharp 35 mph curb, 295 and the Turnpike co-exist together for about 1,200 feet, and it appears based on the striping that the Turnpike has jurisdiction.  https://goo.gl/maps/4K7x2478usx

That doesn't contradict my statement, which you quoted. As for Jurisdiction, NJTA has a "Mile 0" painted on the bridge, but NJDOT recently put up mile markers on that part of 295, and the NJDOT spec "Entering Twp of Pennsville" has been there as long as I've been traveling that through that area.

[formulanone]

Pennsylvania's mile marker Zero and Zero-Tenths on US 1 at the Maryland state line:

[kphoger]

Pennsylvania's mile marker Zero and Zero-Tenths on US 1 at the Maryland state line:

How is that redundant?  Couldn't there be a [0  3/10] mile marker?

[Rothman]

Pennsylvania's mile marker Zero and Zero-Tenths on US 1 at the Maryland state line:

How is that redundant?  Couldn't there be a [0  3/10] mile marker?

What is zero divided by ten?

[kphoger]

Pennsylvania's mile marker Zero and Zero-Tenths on US 1 at the Maryland state line:

How is that redundant?  Couldn't there be a [0  3/10] mile marker?

What is zero divided by ten?

Zero, of course.

But [0  0/10] and [0  3/10] are not the same thing.  So I guess my point is that [0  0/10] is only redundant if you also find [35  0/10] to be equally redundant.

[jakeroot]

The redundancy is the use of the 0/10 fraction at all. The beginning of a mile is always 0/10.

Of course, Pennsylvania is just using 0/10 as an excuse to fill that bottom half and/or be consistent with other signs which use fractions. Personally, I'd prefer decimals (0, 0.1, 0.2, etc).

[kphoger]

The redundancy is the use of the 0/10 fraction at all. The beginning of a mile is always 0/10.

Of course, Pennsylvania is just using 0/10 as an excuse to fill that bottom half and/or be consistent with other signs which use fractions. Personally, I'd prefer decimals (0, 0.1, 0.2, etc).

Agreed on all points.  So does Maryland sign other whole-number mileposts with 0/xx fractions, or does it do the usual?

[jakeroot]

So does Maryland sign other whole-number mileposts with 0/xx fractions, or does it do the usual?

I'm only familiar with the DMV sections of Maryland, but I don't recall noticing PA-level of detail in their mile markers.