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What Vehicle is more entitled on the Road

Started by Tonytone, October 25, 2018, 02:32:33 PM

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sparker

Quote from: webny99 on November 16, 2018, 02:52:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 16, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
I got a little bit of pleasure out of the situation.

I think a little piece of my soul died that day as well.

Yeah, why is it that those two are basically inseparable?  :pan:

Basic human empathy!  Not applicable to those afflicted with sociopathic tendencies. 


formulanone

Quote from: sparker on November 16, 2018, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 16, 2018, 02:52:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 16, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
I got a little bit of pleasure out of the situation.

I think a little piece of my soul died that day as well.

Yeah, why is it that those two are basically inseparable?  :pan:

Basic human empathy!  Not applicable to those afflicted with sociopathic tendencies. 

It bugs me when I pull up to a hotel parking space, get my luggage, backpack, camera bag, and while ambling up to the hotel's front door...some jerk nearly runs me over, and leaves their car idling right in front of the door, while the other patron cuts in front of the line to check-in.

I wistfully hope they get a room by an elevator entrance and they film a porno movie in the room next door to those folks.

sparker

Quote from: formulanone on November 16, 2018, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: sparker on November 16, 2018, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 16, 2018, 02:52:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 16, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
I got a little bit of pleasure out of the situation.

I think a little piece of my soul died that day as well.

Yeah, why is it that those two are basically inseparable?  :pan:

Basic human empathy!  Not applicable to those afflicted with sociopathic tendencies. 

It bugs me when I pull up to a hotel parking space, get my luggage, backpack, camera bag, and while ambling up to the hotel's front door...some jerk nearly runs me over, and leaves their car idling right in front of the door, while the other patron cuts in front of the line to check-in.

I wistfully hope they get a room by an elevator entrance and they film a porno movie in the room next door to those folks.

Probably wouldn't bother them -- they'd just order up "on demand" the porno that was shot next-door a month or two ago!

kphoger

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Male pronouns, please.

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cjk374

As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
Runnin' roads and polishin' rails.

sparker

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

"Can we stop for an ice cream, Daddy?"

".......uhh.......sorry, kid, we'll be a mile down the track before that happens!"

abefroman329

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
What, the HHR? Sure, they were the backbone of many rental fleets for many years, but they weren't THAT bad.

ipeters61

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
THAT IS AWESOME...but also looks like it would be a pain in the ass if you had to deal with it every day!
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Quote from: Tonytone on November 16, 2018, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on November 16, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 16, 2018, 11:15:15 AM
If I want to take my own food to the table and then throw away my own trash, why not just stay home?  A restaurant should be a place where people wait on you at least a little bit.

I understand the thinking (I'm paying money; I should get service). But if you want to be waited on, you'll find no shortage of sit-down restaurants offering table service–where prices are typically higher to cover that service, and you're further expected to leave a gratuity of at least 15% to compensate your server.
Yes, I wish people understood this concept more. I've heard people say "why would I tip the waitress?"  " they shouldn't pick that job if they rely on tips"  Umm some of these waiters make more money in one day of tips, then a person with a paycheck job would in 2 weeks. Some people don't understand the simple concept of things. Just like how YOU should be able to park in from of a store "Not blocking fire lanes or doors" . I think the public is scared of robberies & getaway drivers like this is the 80's


iPhone

I am a waiter, and my pay is better, in my opinion, than if I had a regular paycheck job.  It's not like I can make an average person's two week check in one day, but I make enough to get by on a four day workweek, with the occasional fifth.  The downside is that it's not easy work, especially when I get needy customers, and it isn't always dependable, as a slow day can hurt.  Otherwise, I'm happy with it.

sparker

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

That picture wouldn't happen to have been taken in LaGrange, KY, would it?

TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: Tonytone on November 16, 2018, 02:36:19 PM
What about the security cars that pull up the minute you park, with you're hazardz on & clearly in front a business that you would go in right quick & grab an order you placed online & they are ready to call a tow truck or the police because you "cannot park here"  but the signs clearly state you cannot "park"  while "standing"  or "stopping"  is allowed?

Full offense, but those seem less entitled than those who feel they can park wherever they want because they don't want to find an actual parking space like that. I don't know many stores where someone can "park for a couple minutes just to run in" (which always ends up being more than that) and not make it difficult for two lanes of traffic to sneak by you. Add in how this also impedes views of pedestrians who typically don't give a second thought crossing the street and you have a mess.
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cjk374

Quote from: sparker on November 18, 2018, 02:01:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

That picture wouldn't happen to have been taken in LaGrange, KY, would it?

The picture description does say La Grange, KY.
Runnin' roads and polishin' rails.

sparker

Quote from: cjk374 on November 18, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: sparker on November 18, 2018, 02:01:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

That picture wouldn't happen to have been taken in LaGrange, KY, would it?

The picture description does say La Grange, KY.

Had to go to full screen to catch the description box at the top of the image.  Looked familiar; went through there a couple of decades ago when I was doing some business in Eminence, a few miles to the east.  Street running of RR tracks has always been of interest to me -- thanks for running an exceptionally good photo!

intelati49

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

Aaand I'm reminded of Inception

formulanone

Quote from: intelati49 on November 19, 2018, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

Aaand I'm reminded of Inception

I think that white Ford Econoline is still falling, eight years later.

Tonytone

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
Im actually shocked we don't see more towns & cities like this.


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sparker

Quote from: Tonytone on November 19, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
Im actually shocked we don't see more towns & cities like this.


iPhone

Most street running of "Class 1" RR main lines disappeared by WW II; for the most part growing towns decided that trains running down the middle of the street wasn't terribly conducive to either safety or property values.  Of course, that meant finding another place to put the tracks; the ones that stayed put in the streets did so because local topography mitigated against a bypass or reroute, or the street running was short enough that it wasn't deemed problematic.  Besides La Grange, other cities with significant main-line street trackage include Oakland, CA (UP/Amtrak), Fresno, CA (BNSF/Amtrak), and Monongahela, PA (CSX).  A famous/infamous relatively long (about 2 miles) stretch of CSX in Lafayette, IN featured main line street running before 2004; a bypass was completed at that time.

Tonytone

Quote from: sparker on November 20, 2018, 02:36:06 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 19, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
Im actually shocked we don't see more towns & cities like this.


iPhone

Most street running of "Class 1" RR main lines disappeared by WW II; for the most part growing towns decided that trains running down the middle of the street wasn't terribly conducive to either safety or property values.  Of course, that meant finding another place to put the tracks; the ones that stayed put in the streets did so because local topography mitigated against a bypass or reroute, or the street running was short enough that it wasn't deemed problematic.  Besides La Grange, other cities with significant main-line street trackage include Oakland, CA (UP/Amtrak), Fresno, CA (BNSF/Amtrak), and Monongahela, PA (CSX).  A famous/infamous relatively long (about 2 miles) stretch of CSX in Lafayette, IN featured main line street running before 2004; a bypass was completed at that time.
So with the disappearance of "class 1"  trains in the cities & towns; these unused tracks were then used as trolly lines afterward?


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cjk374

Quote from: Tonytone on November 20, 2018, 02:54:21 AM
Quote from: sparker on November 20, 2018, 02:36:06 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 19, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216
Im actually shocked we don't see more towns & cities like this.


iPhone

Most street running of "Class 1" RR main lines disappeared by WW II; for the most part growing towns decided that trains running down the middle of the street wasn't terribly conducive to either safety or property values.  Of course, that meant finding another place to put the tracks; the ones that stayed put in the streets did so because local topography mitigated against a bypass or reroute, or the street running was short enough that it wasn't deemed problematic.  Besides La Grange, other cities with significant main-line street trackage include Oakland, CA (UP/Amtrak), Fresno, CA (BNSF/Amtrak), and Monongahela, PA (CSX).  A famous/infamous relatively long (about 2 miles) stretch of CSX in Lafayette, IN featured main line street running before 2004; a bypass was completed at that time.
So with the disappearance of "class 1"  trains in the cities & towns; these unused tracks were then used as trolly lines afterward?


iPhone

Paved over & forgotten mostly.
Runnin' roads and polishin' rails.

US 89

Salt Lake City had a decent amount of street-running track, but almost all of it was removed around 2000 as part of the Gateway Olympics projects. The UP mainline was routed along 400 West between around 200 South and 900 South. 500 West carried a D&RGW passenger route, but was later used for the Amtrak route through SLC. When the UP and D&RGW merged, all rail traffic was eventually moved to the original D&RGW freight mainline to the west (between 600 and 700 West), and a new Amtrak station was built.

Here's a remaining segment of the 400 West line: https://goo.gl/maps/A44b5kNKeqJ2

This, by the way, means that Salt Lake City has two historic train depots (the UP and Rio Grande), neither of which are actually on a rail line anymore. It also means that Salt Lake County has a spare N/S railroad right-of-way, which has largely been used for light rail.

kphoger

Quote from: sparker on November 20, 2018, 02:36:06 AM
Besides La Grange, other cities with significant main-line street trackage include Oakland, CA (UP/Amtrak), Fresno, CA (BNSF/Amtrak), and Monongahela, PA (CSX).  A famous/infamous relatively long (about 2 miles) stretch of CSX in Lafayette, IN featured main line street running before 2004; a bypass was completed at that time.

Also commuter rail in Michigan City, IN–including a station stop on the sidewalk.
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Male pronouns, please.

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sparker

Quote from: kphoger on November 20, 2018, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: sparker on November 20, 2018, 02:36:06 AM
Besides La Grange, other cities with significant main-line street trackage include Oakland, CA (UP/Amtrak), Fresno, CA (BNSF/Amtrak), and Monongahela, PA (CSX).  A famous/infamous relatively long (about 2 miles) stretch of CSX in Lafayette, IN featured main line street running before 2004; a bypass was completed at that time.

Also commuter rail in Michigan City, IN–including a station stop on the sidewalk.

And another long street section not to overlook:  BNSF's former Colorado Southern line in Fort Collins, CO; this hosts a regular procession of long trains of empty coal hopper cars heading back north to the Powder River mines (most of which are arrayed along WY 59 between Douglas and Gillette.  Since both that city and Boulder to the south raised objections to loaded coal trains passing through their towns, BNSF opted to reroute Texas-bound coal trains on their other N-S regional line through Sydney, NE and Sterling, CO, rejoining the Boulder/Ft. Collins line in Denver.  Still, it's quite a sight to see 100+ car empty trains passing through a residential street in Ft. Collins.

kphoger

Back to topic, though, I would agree that freight trains are perhaps the most entitled vehicles on the road.  Although an armored procession of political figures might come close, because they could conceivably radio to have a freight train stop and wait for them.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

hotdogPi

Quote from: kphoger on November 20, 2018, 12:59:58 PM
Back to topic, though, I would agree that freight trains are perhaps the most entitled vehicles on the road.  Although an armored procession of political figures might come close, because they could conceivably radio to have a freight train stop and wait for them.

Where do freight trains exist on roads?
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Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

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kphoger

Quote from: 1 on November 20, 2018, 01:22:50 PM
Where do freight trains exist on roads?

Ummm...

↓  HERE  ↓

Quote from: cjk374 on November 17, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
As the lone locomotive engineer on this forum, I feel like I must contribute the ultimately most entitled vehicle to any road:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3695216

↓  AND HERE  ↓

Quote from: sparker on November 20, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
BNSF's former Colorado Southern line in Fort Collins, CO ... 100+ car empty trains passing through a residential street in Ft. Collins.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.



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