Department of Redundancy Department

[Occidental Tourist]

From this thread, this redundancy, in terms of BGS replacement, along I-91 in MA has been around for at least two months.



The old BGS & gantry were still there as of 2 weeks ago.

91 east of the 605:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.876353,-118.081477,3a,75y,74.25h,78.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYh1iiBV3_R0uc9vagyc85g!2e0

[hm insulators]

Sine Salad on Yarnell at 210 by ssoworld, on Flickr
Quite a staple of Los Angles - The sign on the pole is LA's, the bgs is CalTrans's as is the standard "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" shield below.

I got a buddy of mine who only lives a mile or so from that Yarnell/I-210 intersection.

[hbelkins]

Here are a couple:

[JoePCool14]

I'm not really sure what the redundancy is here.

[hotdogPi]

I'm not really sure what the redundancy is here.

The combination of "PA" and the route shield.

[Scott5114]

I think the one on the left is.  The one on the right is partially hidden in the brush.

Wow, can't imagine looking at that sign in the summer with foliage covering it.

Also, off-topic, but do you think winter is the worst season for roadgeeks? (Signs dirty, knocked by plows etc.)
or, are plants to annoying in the summer?

Personally, winter is much worse (at least near Chicago it is).

I think winter is better for roadgeeking. Around here, you don't have to worry about the weather so much (snow is always a possibility, but rarely actually happens more than once or twice per season). In the summer, photography is more difficult because you play hell trying to keep up with scrubbing the bug guts off the windshield and mitigating the glare caused by bright sunlight.

[formulanone]

At least you get an extra evening daylight after today. Personally, that's what I look forward to with the time change, even though you lose that hour. Spring and fall, due to the nicer weather. Summer gets a greater chance of rain. Winter has dull to nonexistent foliage in many places, and there's less daylight.

With the exception of love bugs, most insects aren't anything a blade scraper and a bottle of water can't solve (with an additional trip to a gas station).

[Zeffy]

With the exception of love bugs, most insects aren't anything a blade scraper and a bottle of water can't solve (with an additional trip to a gas station).

So how about the stinging ones? You know, the ones that will fly into your window suddenly and you now have to worry about the little fucker stinging you.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

At least you get an extra evening daylight after today. Personally, that's what I look forward to with the time change, even though you lose that hour. Spring and fall, due to the nicer weather. Summer gets a greater chance of rain. Winter has dull to nonexistent foliage in many places, and there's less daylight.

I'm still in standard time, so I haven't got that extra evening daylight yet. Instead, the forum has now the wrong hour for me, being one hour ahead of actual time here. So hard is keeping the forum hour in the same GMT offset instead of changing it with DST? Anyway, this will be solved on March 30th when Europe advances to DST.

[hotdogPi]

At least you get an extra evening daylight after today. Personally, that's what I look forward to with the time change, even though you lose that hour. Spring and fall, due to the nicer weather. Summer gets a greater chance of rain. Winter has dull to nonexistent foliage in many places, and there's less daylight.

I'm still in standard time, so I haven't got that extra evening daylight yet. Instead, the forum has now the wrong hour for me, being one hour ahead of actual time here. So hard is keeping the forum hour in the same GMT offset instead of changing it with DST? Anyway, this will be solved on March 30th when Europe advances to DST.

In your preferences, you can change it one hour.

[vtk]

Old US 35 at Palmer Rd, Washington Court House, Ohio:


Probably because when the US 35 freeway ended at Palmer Road and US 35 made a turn at this intersection, it was a three-way stop. 

[jeffandnicole]

Department of Redundancy Postings of Department of Redundancy Department Postings. 

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11212.msg274190#msg274190

[Kacie Jane]

And I'm not even convinced it's redundant the first time. Using a shield in two separate messages isn't necessarily redundant.

[roadman65]

Actually I forgot that I posted it before.  Silly as it is, it is almost like I was thinking the same thing under the circumstance.   I ran across it the second time when I was sorting through my files, and thought it would be a good redundancy thing not realizing that the posting of the picture by me would be that. 

Funny when I think about it.

[hotdogPi]

So the thread now has redundancy.

[okroads]

At the bottom, the sign says "Northbound - Trucks" on one line and "Trucks Use Next Exit" on the next line. Photo taken by me on 1-4-14.

[PHLBOS]

In Belchertown, MA at the northern terminus of MA 181 at US 202/MA 21; there are new (latest GSV predates the erection of such) LGS' for that intersection.  For some reason there are two LGS panels for MA 21 North (right turn off 181) but no LGS for US 202 North (straight ahead).

The new LGS arrangement is as follows:

  21 NORTH
     WARE
BROOKFIELD
------------>
(main paddle LGS)

SOUTH
21  202
LUDLOW
<--------
(2nd LGS below main paddle)

21 NORTH
   WARE
----------->
(3rd LGS below previous 2 LGS')

Unfortunately, I didn't have time to get a photo of it.

[Pete from Boston]

I'm surprised the nine or so signs for the Ari Halberstam Memorial Ramp haven't come up.  I know a few came down during construction, but there were still more than any ramp could ever merit the last time I was there.

[Zeffy]

  21 NORTH
     WARE
BROOKFIELD
------------>
(main paddle LGS)

SOUTH
21  202
LUDLOW
<--------
(2nd LGS below main paddle)

21 NORTH
   WARE
----------->
(3rd LGS below previous 2 LGS')

Unfortunately, I didn't have time to get a photo of it.

Have a free render of what I think MassDOT paddle LGS look like:



Reasoning: Pictures are better than text, and I was bored. 

[PHLBOS]

Have a free render of what I think MassDOT paddle LGS look like:


Reasoning: Pictures are better than text, and I was bored. 

Not bad but the new signs have the black off-set lines for the shields and the white off-sets are now rounded (to mimic the BGS).  Also, the first LGS paddle is mounted on top of the post & MassDOT has long since adopted the practice of the 1st letter of the direction cardinal being slightly larger than the rest of the lettering.

[Zeffy]

Attempt 2:

I actually looked up on Alpsroads.net to see what it looked like, and matched it closely.



No idea why the 21 came out so... thick.

[Pete from Boston]

The older signs didn't have the embiggened first letter.

[PHLBOS]

The older signs didn't have the embiggened first letter.

He wasn't trying to copy the older signs.  He was trying to show the LGS' as they appear today.

[Pete from Boston]

The older signs didn't have the embiggened first letter.

He wasn't trying to copy the older signs.  He was trying to show the LGS' as they appear today.

Right, I was just clarifying that using the old photo would yield a different result than what is there now for that reason.

[roadman65]

Happen to catch this one a few years back during a sign change.