Interstate 210 shields on new section of California state route 210?

[myosh_tino]

Something tells me Caltrans would attempt to "grandfather" the current 10-foot outside shoulders into the future project; otherwise, numerous bridges would also require widening.  I that didn't fly, I wouldn't put it past them to simply restripe the lanes for 11.25-foot width, stealing as much as they could from the inner shoulders.  They did this on I-110 in the Torrance area back in the '80's when the Interstate redesignation happened (a prominent non-Interstate example of this is US 101 from the 134/170 interchange west to I-405).

I think if a Caltrans petition to sign CA-210 as I-210 is rejected because of substandard shoulders, the most logical choice is to keep the route signed as a California state route rather than tinkering with lane widths.

[vdeane]

Plus it's not just the outer shoulders that factor in to the standard, but the inner as well.  Wouldn't be surprised if CalTrans just ended the idea of signing as an interstate when FHWA started to get stringent about standards adherence.

[Quillz]

Plus it's not just the outer shoulders that factor in to the standard, but the inner as well.  Wouldn't be surprised if CalTrans just ended the idea of signing as an interstate when FHWA started to get stringent about standards adherence.

They'll probably give up eventually. Much like I-238, it doesn't particular matter anymore if I-210 is signed or not. It's "Route 210" regardless, and motorists certainly don't care. All they care about is having a freeway thru route, which 210 has been doing now since the late 90s or so.

[sparker]

Technically, they could sign the route as I-210 west of I-215 (newer, Interstate-grade construction) and leave the remainder as CA 210 (and possibly sign the westbound I-10 approach in Redlands as "CA 210 TO I-210/San Bernardino/Pasadena").  But they probably won't bother; in terms of local logistics, it's not a BFD! 

[ACSCmapcollector]

What is BFD?

[sparker]

BFD = Big F---ing Deal!  Just another f---ing acronym!

[Exit58]

From the 57 to the 215, all that really needs to be done is change the reassurance shields and freeway entrance signs, which realistically only needs to be done when the current shields are removed from service (most are retroreflective, so maybe another five years before they start looking ratty). A lot of the guidance signs can be greened out with I-210 and the directionals at the on ramps are I-210 already with SR 210 on green out.

The only thing is getting FHWA to sign off on changing the Kellogg to Glendora Curve potion of 57 to something other then I-210. All chargeable miles there though.

[emory]

I spotted this erroneous US 210 shield on a local road in Pasadena tonight. A fresh install.

[Max Rockatansky]

Through in a county route 210 somewhere and they'll have a full set.

[JustDrive]

I spotted this erroneous US 210 shield on a local road in Pasadena tonight. A fresh install.

The original one was button-copy. It's on California Blvd west of Orange Grove Blvd. I take that route from the Rose Bowl to downtown L. A. whenever I go to UCLA football games.

[emory]

The original one was button-copy. It's on California Blvd west of Orange Grove Blvd. I take that route from the Rose Bowl to downtown L. A. whenever I go to UCLA football games.

Yep. Not far from this overhead banner that gets I-210 correct, but gets the 134 and 110 wrong.

[djsekani]

I spotted this erroneous US 210 shield on a local road in Pasadena tonight. A fresh install.

It's not that fresh; according to Google Street View the sign has been there since 2007, which is the earliest set of photos available... so probably even longer than that.

[sparker]

The original one was button-copy. It's on California Blvd west of Orange Grove Blvd. I take that route from the Rose Bowl to downtown L. A. whenever I go to UCLA football games.

Yep. Not far from this overhead banner that gets I-210 correct, but gets the 134 and 110 wrong.

That overhead banner looks like it's over one of the Rose Bowl parking lot exits.  Private contractors' signage expertise is, more often than not, well shy of ensuring accuracy!

[Alps]

The original one was button-copy. It's on California Blvd west of Orange Grove Blvd. I take that route from the Rose Bowl to downtown L. A. whenever I go to UCLA football games.

Yep. Not far from this overhead banner that gets I-210 correct, but gets the 134 and 110 wrong.

Where's Carl Rogers?

[emory]

That overhead banner looks like it's over one of the Rose Bowl parking lot exits.  Private contractors' signage expertise is, more often than not, well shy of ensuring accuracy!

It's on Rosemont Avenue approaching Seco Street, to the east of the Rose Bowl.

[AndyMax25]

I spotted this erroneous US 210 shield on a local road in Pasadena tonight. A fresh install.

Thanks, I will forward this to my contact at Pasadena DOT.

[Alps]

Thanks, I will forward this to my contact at Pasadena DOT.

NO!!!

If it's not hurting anyone, leave an error in the field for us roadgeeks to discover! We're here because we love seeing the interesting and unusual things on the road. If every sign were perfect, life would be so boring.

[NE2]

Shield type errors are so boring.

[sparker]

I spotted this erroneous US 210 shield on a local road in Pasadena tonight. A fresh install.

Shield type errors are so boring.

But it might give nostalgic comfort to those Pasadena locals who pine for northern Minnesota, circa 1965!

[emory]

Thanks, I will forward this to my contact at Pasadena DOT.

Tell them it's supposed to be County Route 210. Thanks.