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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1800 on: February 10, 2016, 05:40:10 PM »

Lake Ave. and Spruce St., Manchester, New Hampshire:





Despite the "Smile," I saw no evidence of any speed camera.  Could be a false implication of one.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1801 on: February 10, 2016, 05:57:49 PM »

Lake Ave. and Spruce St., Manchester, New Hampshire:
[SMILE YOU ARE ON RADAR]
[SMILE SPEEDING TICKETS AHEAD]

Silly Manchester, you smile for cameras!
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1802 on: February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM »

Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1803 on: February 10, 2016, 07:15:59 PM »

Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1804 on: February 10, 2016, 08:06:58 PM »

I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?

I prefer square US route markers to stretched markers.

So you'd rather squish hard to read Series B numerals into a shield and not be able to read them very far away? Makes no sense to me.

I never had any trouble reading them, and they seemed to work fine until Kentucky switched away from them (for the most part) in the 1970s.

I think having all the route markers the same size looks better in terms of sign assembly symmetry.

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1805 on: February 11, 2016, 10:44:28 AM »

Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).

You must not have ever ventured into PennDOT District 6 (SE PA).Just about all of their Clearview signs are just like that.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1806 on: February 11, 2016, 11:03:03 AM »

Lake Ave. and Spruce St., Manchester, New Hampshire:

...Despite the "Smile," I saw no evidence of any speed camera.  Could be a false implication of one.

I used to live on Lake Avenue in Manchester.  It's one way and straight, so drivers tend to speed.  I'd almost bet the signs are just there to slow them down.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1807 on: February 11, 2016, 12:15:16 PM »

Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).

You must not have ever ventured into PennDOT District 6 (SE PA).Just about all of their Clearview signs are just like that.

I haven't been down that way since PennDOT started using Clearview. I'm more familiar with central and western PA, which are miserable.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1808 on: February 11, 2016, 12:41:01 PM »

Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).

You must not have ever ventured into PennDOT District 6 (SE PA).Just about all of their Clearview signs are just like that.

I haven't been down that way since PennDOT started using Clearview. I'm more familiar with central and western PA, which are miserable.

That's putting it nicely. I think they did that to appease the Penn State people that developed the font in the first place. PTC is an even bigger offender. They have BGS at interchanges with control cities in all caps Clearview and you wanna just drive off the road to unsee it.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1809 on: February 11, 2016, 01:23:56 PM »

PTC is an even bigger offender. They have BGS at interchanges with control cities in all caps Clearview and you wanna just drive off the road to unsee it.
Are you sure you're not thinking about the Interchange names on those PTC BGS'?  Those are the only places I've seen cities/destinations listed in all-caps.  PTC's been using mixed-case lettering for its control cities/destinations for at least 4 decades.

Note: a newly-erected BGS for the Lansdale interchange now features the interchange name in mixed-case lettering (& Clearview).
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1810 on: February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM »

This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor


It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1811 on: February 11, 2016, 01:35:41 PM »

PTC is an even bigger offender. They have BGS at interchanges with control cities in all caps Clearview and you wanna just drive off the road to unsee it.
Are you sure you're not thinking about the Interchange names on those PTC BGS'?  Those are the only places I've seen cities/destinations listed in all-caps.  PTC's been using mixed-case lettering for its control cities/destinations for at least 4 decades.

Note: a newly-erected BGS for the Lansdale interchange now features the interchange name in mixed-case lettering (& Clearview).

There's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1812 on: February 11, 2016, 02:01:22 PM »

This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor


It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1813 on: February 11, 2016, 02:22:33 PM »

This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
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It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.

George Carlin wouldn't like that
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1814 on: February 11, 2016, 02:25:17 PM »

This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
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It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.

George Carlin wouldn't like that

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1815 on: February 11, 2016, 05:42:21 PM »

This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor

Sort of reminds me of these signs at Virginia Beach.


There's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
The only BGS' in that vicinity, I'm aware of, which have all-caps for the control city/destination and/or street name are the ones posted just beyond the Norristown toll plaza (after one leaves the Turnpike) where one has to either turn right for I-476 South of straight towards Plymouth Road; which I agree are hideous.

From the PA Turnpike News thread:
I-276 West Ramps to Exit 20/I-476 North



I-276 Exit 333 ALL CAPS exit signs (replaces Mixed-Case Version)

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1816 on: February 11, 2016, 06:40:59 PM »

This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor


It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1817 on: February 11, 2016, 07:50:10 PM »


Sort of reminds me of these signs at Virginia Beach.


There's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
The only BGS' in that vicinity, I'm aware of, which have all-caps for the control city/destination and/or street name are the ones posted just beyond the Norristown toll plaza (after one leaves the Turnpike) where one has to either turn right for I-476 South of straight towards Plymouth Road; which I agree are hideous.

From the PA Turnpike News thread:
I-276 West Ramps to Exit 20/I-476 North
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And speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1818 on: February 11, 2016, 08:30:14 PM »



Sort of reminds me of these signs at Virginia Beach.


There's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
The only BGS' in that vicinity, I'm aware of, which have all-caps for the control city/destination and/or street name are the ones posted just beyond the Norristown toll plaza (after one leaves the Turnpike) where one has to either turn right for I-476 South of straight towards Plymouth Road; which I agree are hideous.

From the PA Turnpike News thread:
I-276 West Ramps to Exit 20/I-476 North
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And speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:



Oh my.  That's unfortunate.


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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1819 on: February 12, 2016, 09:01:30 AM »

And speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:


What was the green space next to the US 60 shield intended for?
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1821 on: February 12, 2016, 10:56:44 AM »

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

This mixing of the fonts is absurd. It just looks ridiculous. I agree, make it all one font or the other.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1822 on: February 12, 2016, 12:00:38 PM »

And speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:


What was the green space next to the US 60 shield intended for?

It was more or less a carbon copy from the previous sign (or half a sign) that it replaced:

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1823 on: February 12, 2016, 12:59:04 PM »

I-276 Exit 333 ALL CAPS exit signs (replaces Mixed-Case Version)

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That is the one. Weird part is it's the only set of signs like that in the entire interchange, yet they replaced (most) of the signs all around the same time.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #1824 on: February 12, 2016, 01:22:02 PM »

That is the one. Weird part is it's the only set of signs like that in the entire interchange, yet they replaced (most) of the signs all around the same time.
Actually, and I commented on such on the other thread, that gantry & BGS' are part of a separate signing contract along I-276 (E-W Turnpike); such is located at the Norristown, not the Mid-County toll plaza.  Those BGS' have oversized control cities/destination legends, smallish route shields (featuring Series C fonts for both I-276 & 476 shields, a plus  :thumbsup: IMHO) and Clearview on everything except the route shield numerals.

The new BGS' erected along I-476 (Northeast Extension) & the Mid-County interchange are from the widening project contract.  Those (for the most part) display the proper applications (& appropriate size) of the Clearview font.

Nonetheless, the all-caps legends on those 2 BGS' are still an oddity.
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