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Re: California
« Reply #2125 on: September 05, 2023, 01:30:32 AM »

Well, there goes my hope of driving part of 190 in November. Though I had written that off at this point.

It really hasn't been a good year for roads in the Southwest. Between Hilary and this weekend's monsoon rains, there is a ton of damage just in the past few weeks.
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« Reply #2126 on: September 05, 2023, 05:05:34 PM »

I assume others in the SF Valley have noticed the long and high concrete median being constructed on the 101? It seems to be almost done.

What are the benefits of this? Have cars gone over the median in the past? It has been under construction for a long time, and yet it doesn't seem to be much different from what was there before. (Some new BGS have also gone up in the same area).
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Re: California
« Reply #2127 on: September 05, 2023, 08:23:29 PM »

I assume others in the SF Valley have noticed the long and high concrete median being constructed on the 101? It seems to be almost done.

What are the benefits of this? Have cars gone over the median in the past? It has been under construction for a long time, and yet it doesn't seem to be much different from what was there before. (Some new BGS have also gone up in the same area).
I don't like it simply for the fact that it forces drivers in that fast lane to drive a little slower. With no shoulder on the left and, instead, a big concrete wall, I personally don't like driving in that lane when I'm in the Valley.
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Re: California
« Reply #2128 on: September 06, 2023, 12:43:46 AM »

I assume others in the SF Valley have noticed the long and high concrete median being constructed on the 101? It seems to be almost done.

What are the benefits of this? Have cars gone over the median in the past? It has been under construction for a long time, and yet it doesn't seem to be much different from what was there before. (Some new BGS have also gone up in the same area).

I assume it's replacing the glare screen paddles that got removed off the top of the lower median. My recollection of driving the 101 when the paddles were still on was that quite a few would be knocked off.
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Re: California
« Reply #2129 on: September 07, 2023, 04:29:10 PM »

I assume others in the SF Valley have noticed the long and high concrete median being constructed on the 101? It seems to be almost done.

What are the benefits of this? Have cars gone over the median in the past? It has been under construction for a long time, and yet it doesn't seem to be much different from what was there before. (Some new BGS have also gone up in the same area).

They are doing a similar project up in the Bay Area on I-80 within Contra Costa County.  The stated reason is to reduce glare from oncoming vehicles, and they are also installing median lightning.
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Re: California
« Reply #2130 on: September 07, 2023, 09:29:14 PM »

I assume others in the SF Valley have noticed the long and high concrete median being constructed on the 101? It seems to be almost done.

What are the benefits of this? Have cars gone over the median in the past? It has been under construction for a long time, and yet it doesn't seem to be much different from what was there before. (Some new BGS have also gone up in the same area).

They are doing a similar project up in the Bay Area on I-80 within Contra Costa County.  The stated reason is to reduce glare from oncoming vehicles, and they are also installing median lightning.

Interesting. No lighting here yet, didn’t know glare was a major hazard. I’m not usually in the lane so I don’t notice as much.
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Re: California
« Reply #2131 on: September 08, 2023, 01:23:49 PM »

I assume others in the SF Valley have noticed the long and high concrete median being constructed on the 101? It seems to be almost done.

What are the benefits of this? Have cars gone over the median in the past? It has been under construction for a long time, and yet it doesn't seem to be much different from what was there before. (Some new BGS have also gone up in the same area).

They are doing a similar project up in the Bay Area on I-80 within Contra Costa County.  The stated reason is to reduce glare from oncoming vehicles, and they are also installing median lightning.

Interesting. No lighting here yet, didn’t know glare was a major hazard. I’m not usually in the lane so I don’t notice as much.

Another reason is that many of the older median k-rails are too low for modern vehicles which tend to sit higher and can end up mounting/crossing/crashing through a lower barrier.
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« Reply #2132 on: September 08, 2023, 01:44:31 PM »

I figured it was more for cars going over the median. I've not seen that here but I figured it was possible. But I brought it up because it seems the old median wasn't that much smaller. This new one seems more rounded, though, at the base.
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Re: California
« Reply #2133 on: September 08, 2023, 02:12:00 PM »

The response I was given from caltrans was, it was to reduce glare and rubbernecking. I didn’t hear anything about median lighting, but it would be nice.
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Re: California
« Reply #2135 on: September 12, 2023, 06:24:50 PM »

Mike Ballard has video clip of the US-99 sign at the CA-134@ I-5 interchange.


Here's the lame fix D7 made for that sign:


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Re: California
« Reply #2136 on: September 12, 2023, 08:01:43 PM »

They’re not going to greenout the top left?
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Re: California
« Reply #2137 on: September 12, 2023, 08:34:03 PM »

"Golden Sta" is the ultimate control city.
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Re: California
« Reply #2138 on: September 12, 2023, 09:25:22 PM »

Welcome to California:  Your tax dollars at work!
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« Reply #2139 on: September 12, 2023, 09:35:10 PM »

Even still, talk about some super longevity on those early DOH freeway gantry signs. 
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Re: California
« Reply #2140 on: September 12, 2023, 09:39:16 PM »

"Golden Sta" is the ultimate control city.

That's right up there with Other Desert Cities.
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Re: California
« Reply #2141 on: September 12, 2023, 10:38:42 PM »

"Golden Sta" is the ultimate control city.

That's right up there with Other Desert Cities.
CA-91 W towards Beach Cities is an honorable mention.
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Re: California
« Reply #2142 on: September 13, 2023, 01:33:07 AM »

"Golden Sta" is the ultimate control city.

That's right up there with Other Desert Cities.
CA-91 W towards Beach Cities is an honorable mention.

Or more succinctly, I-8 West toward, simply, "Beaches".
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Re: California
« Reply #2143 on: September 13, 2023, 01:34:11 AM »

"Golden Sta" is the ultimate control city.

That's right up there with Other Desert Cities.
That one was so much better when it was "other Desert Cities" with the lowercase 'o'.
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Re: California
« Reply #2144 on: September 13, 2023, 12:34:14 PM »

Welcome to California:  Your tax dollars at work!

You mean our tax dollars at wo
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Re: California
« Reply #2145 on: September 13, 2023, 10:53:58 PM »

That fix of a sign over a BGS is not the first time I seen it, it can also be seen on I-280 in San Francisco at the Alemany Interchange. Here the US-101 symbol got faded after 20 years and I thought it was a cheap fix over replacing the entire sign.



The fix for the I-5 signage just looks... weird.



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« Reply #2146 on: September 13, 2023, 11:49:10 PM »

^^^ I saw that this week - more than the cheap/lazy fix, it reminded me that it seems the reflective signage has a much shorter lifespan than the older signs. So many of them are fading/peeling/etc. after 10 years or less.

They’ve replaced nearly all the signage on US-101 between San Francisco and San Jose - except for one BGS southbound - the one near Rengstorff in Mountain View that has the greenout over BYPASS. That sign, which is over 60 years old at this point, is in better shape (even with the later-added buttons) than a whole lot of the 2000s vintage signage.

That I-5 cover-up struck me as photoshopped on first glance.
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« Reply #2147 on: September 21, 2023, 12:26:22 PM »

Not a good result Caltrans!

Either replace the signage so that the top line says "Golden State Fwy"

Or remove all of the new greenout so that we have two "SOUTH 5" entries.  Yes, the 99 needs to be covered by a 5, but its unfortunate that the color couldnt match better.

Where is Richard Ankrom when we need him?

[He is the guerilla artist who painstakingly painted a very realistic "5" on signage at the northobound Harbor approaching the Four Level.  Signage at the time indicated exiting right for 5 Santa Ana and 10 San Bernardino as well as signage for 101 north, but nothing for 5 north (which you need to stay in the left lane through all of the tunnels for the next 3 miles).  His sign was so heloful that it was later replaced with an official version.  ]
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Re: California
« Reply #2148 on: September 21, 2023, 12:31:02 PM »

Where is Richard Ankrom when we need him?

[He is the guerilla artist who painstakingly painted a very realistic "5" on signage at the northobound Harbor approaching the Four Level.  Signage at the time indicated exiting right for 5 Santa Ana and 10 San Bernardino as well as signage for 101 north, but nothing for 5 north (which you need to stay in the left lane through all of the tunnels for the next 3 miles).  His sign was so heloful that it was later replaced with an official version.  ]

Not so much "painted", but fabricated a shield and "north" placard to spec and then installed it on an existing sign.
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Re: California
« Reply #2149 on: September 21, 2023, 07:21:45 PM »

Where is Richard Ankrom when we need him?

[He is the guerilla artist who painstakingly painted a very realistic "5" on signage at the northobound Harbor approaching the Four Level.  Signage at the time indicated exiting right for 5 Santa Ana and 10 San Bernardino as well as signage for 101 north, but nothing for 5 north (which you need to stay in the left lane through all of the tunnels for the next 3 miles).  His sign was so heloful that it was later replaced with an official version.  ]

Not so much "painted", but fabricated a shield and "north" placard to spec and then installed it on an existing sign.
Who's gonna erect their own BGS about 2 miles before the 101/405 and 10/405 interchanges saying "405 Right 2 Lanes" so we don't have all these horrendous backups from drivers trying to get over at the last minute?
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