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Started by Grzrd, November 27, 2010, 06:15:29 PM

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hbelkins

If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

That seems wasteful to me. The state has had an option (or owned outright) the land where the Ford facility is going to be built for years. They should have included the rebuild of the KY 222 interchange as part of the original I-65 widening.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.


wriddle082

Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

You bring something to light that just occurred to me.  The Tennessee Ford complex will be built along TN 222, and the Kentucky Ford complex will be built along KY 222.  Very odd coincidence!

hbelkins

Quote from: wriddle082 on October 01, 2021, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

You bring something to light that just occurred to me.  The Tennessee Ernie Ford complex will be built along TN 222, and the Kentucky Ford complex will be built along KY 222.  Very odd coincidence!

FIFY.  :-D :-D :-D


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Scott5114

Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 01, 2021, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

You bring something to light that just occurred to me.  The Tennessee Ernie Ford complex will be built along TN 222, and the Kentucky Ford complex will be built along KY 222.  Very odd coincidence!

FIFY.  :-D :-D :-D

what is it with AARoads members from Kentucky bringing up people named Ernie at inappropriate times
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hbelkins

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2021, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 01, 2021, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

You bring something to light that just occurred to me.  The Tennessee Ernie Ford complex will be built along TN 222, and the Kentucky Ford complex will be built along KY 222.  Very odd coincidence!

FIFY.  :-D :-D :-D

what is it with AARoads members from Kentucky bringing up people named Ernie at inappropriate times

Hey, you see an opportunity to make a bad pun, you take it.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Thegeet

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2021, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on October 01, 2021, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

You bring something to light that just occurred to me.  The Tennessee Ernie Ford complex will be built along TN 222, and the Kentucky Ford complex will be built along KY 222.  Very odd coincidence!

FIFY.  :-D :-D :-D

what is it with AARoads members from Kentucky bringing up people named Ernie at inappropriate times
What's wrong with Ernie?

I-39

Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

That seems wasteful to me. The state has had an option (or owned outright) the land where the Ford facility is going to be built for years. They should have included the rebuild of the KY 222 interchange as part of the original I-65 widening.

It doesn't look like the TN 222 interchange was rebuilt, if Google street view is any indication. The bridge looks old.

Chrysler375Freeway

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2021, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 19, 2021, 01:50:58 PM
Maybe this has been covered before, but what will happen to the western side of I-240 when I-69 is completed in Tennessee?  I imagine it will be treated like I-635 was when I-20 was routed on it's southern leg.  If so, is there another instance when a full beltway 3DI had multiple sections of it's route re-numbered for a main route of multiple 2DIs, making the 3DI a shell of it's former self?

Funnily enough something similar happened to another I-240, the one in Oklahoma City–it once was a ¾ beltway around OKC, but the west and north legs got renumbered to I-44 in 1982.
Speaking of that, I-240's designation will be extended to become a full beltway following:
I-44
SR 152
John Kilpatrick Tpk.
I-44 (I-35 to Kickapoo Tpk. section)
Kickapoo Tpk.
I-40
It's a continuous route, but it requires multiple overlaps with the state highway system.

wriddle082

Quote from: I-39 on October 06, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

That seems wasteful to me. The state has had an option (or owned outright) the land where the Ford facility is going to be built for years. They should have included the rebuild of the KY 222 interchange as part of the original I-65 widening.

It doesn't look like the TN 222 interchange was rebuilt, if Google street view is any indication. The bridge looks old.

Yes I believe the bridge is original, but it's always looked decent, meaning that it may have been reconditioned at some point in time.  Probably in the 80's because I don't remember it being done.  And the ramps at that I-40 diamond interchange are much longer than you would expect to see on a circa early-60's Tennessee freeway.  Now I'm wondering if the ramps were added in the 80's at the same time the bridge was theoretically reconditioned...

Scott5114

Quote from: Chrysler375Freeway on October 23, 2021, 01:57:56 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2021, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 19, 2021, 01:50:58 PM
Maybe this has been covered before, but what will happen to the western side of I-240 when I-69 is completed in Tennessee?  I imagine it will be treated like I-635 was when I-20 was routed on it's southern leg.  If so, is there another instance when a full beltway 3DI had multiple sections of it's route re-numbered for a main route of multiple 2DIs, making the 3DI a shell of it's former self?

Funnily enough something similar happened to another I-240, the one in Oklahoma City–it once was a ¾ beltway around OKC, but the west and north legs got renumbered to I-44 in 1982.
Speaking of that, I-240's designation will be extended to become a full beltway following:
I-44
SR 152
John Kilpatrick Tpk.
I-44 (I-35 to Kickapoo Tpk. section)
Kickapoo Tpk.
I-40
It's a continuous route, but it requires multiple overlaps with the state highway system.

I know, I watched the Transportation Commission approve it live (and posted here less than a minute after the vote). :P But it wasn't relevant to the point I was making.
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Mapmikey

Quote from: wriddle082 on October 23, 2021, 02:16:26 AM
Quote from: I-39 on October 06, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the KY 222 bridge over I-65 was rebuilt as part of the I-65 widening at the Glendale exit. There's a project in Kentucky's six-year plan to rebuild the interchange yet again, with a new bridge to be built to the south of the existing one.

That seems wasteful to me. The state has had an option (or owned outright) the land where the Ford facility is going to be built for years. They should have included the rebuild of the KY 222 interchange as part of the original I-65 widening.

It doesn't look like the TN 222 interchange was rebuilt, if Google street view is any indication. The bridge looks old.

Yes I believe the bridge is original, but it's always looked decent, meaning that it may have been reconditioned at some point in time.  Probably in the 80's because I don't remember it being done.  And the ramps at that I-40 diamond interchange are much longer than you would expect to see on a circa early-60's Tennessee freeway.  Now I'm wondering if the ramps were added in the 80's at the same time the bridge was theoretically reconditioned...


The long ramps were already present in the 1980 historic aerial.  The ramps where they meet TN 222, especially on the south side of the interchange were redone about 2014.

The 1970 Fayette County map shows a diamond interchange there - https://vintageaerial.com/scanned_maps/TN-Fayette-80-02

Ryctor2018

I drove down to Memphis, driving I-69 thru western Kentucky then crossing into Tennessee. Around Union City, progress is going well at the eastern I-69/US-51 interchange. Unfortunately I was pressed for time and could not take pictures of the interchange. From the looks of it, the flyovers are coming along nicely. The ramps are graded, but still need paving. Traffic was shifted to the nb US-51 carriageway. I would imagine the interchange will be finished by Spring 2022.

I could not let the trip go to a complete waste. So, I drove up TN-21 north to the unopened interchange with I-69 to check it out before the sunset. Below are the four pics I quickly took. I added links as the file sizes are rather large.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/194446137@N03/51693048322/in/album-72157720172236422/
Future I-69/TN-21 eastbound zoomed view

https://www.flickr.com/photos/194446137@N03/51693046892/in/album-72157720172236422/
Future I-69/TN-21 westbound zoomed view
2DI's traveled: 5, 8, 10, 12, 15, 20, 24, 30, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 49, 55, 57, 59, 64, 65, 66, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 85, 87, 88, 90, 93, 94, 95, 96

edwaleni

Quote from: Ryctor2018 on November 20, 2021, 11:06:36 PM
I drove down to Memphis, driving I-69 thru western Kentucky then crossing into Tennessee. Around Union City, progress is going well at the eastern I-69/US-51 interchange. Unfortunately I was pressed for time and could not take pictures of the interchange. From the looks of it, the flyovers are coming along nicely. The ramps are graded, but still need paving. Traffic was shifted to the nb US-51 carriageway. I would imagine the interchange will be finished by Spring 2022.

I could not let the trip go to a complete waste. So, I drove up TN-21 north to the unopened interchange with I-69 to check it out before the sunset. Below are the four pics I quickly took. I added links as the file sizes are rather large.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/194446137@N03/51693048322/in/album-72157720172236422/
Future I-69/TN-21 eastbound zoomed view

https://www.flickr.com/photos/194446137@N03/51693046892/in/album-72157720172236422/
Future I-69/TN-21 westbound zoomed view

Thanks for this! Last I came through it was just a bunch of dirt & gravel trucks going up and down Perry Browder Road.

GreenLanternCorps

Quote from: edwaleni on November 21, 2021, 01:40:28 AM
Quote from: Ryctor2018 on November 20, 2021, 11:06:36 PM
I drove down to Memphis, driving I-69 thru western Kentucky then crossing into Tennessee. Around Union City, progress is going well at the eastern I-69/US-51 interchange. Unfortunately I was pressed for time and could not take pictures of the interchange. From the looks of it, the flyovers are coming along nicely. The ramps are graded, but still need paving. Traffic was shifted to the nb US-51 carriageway. I would imagine the interchange will be finished by Spring 2022.

I could not let the trip go to a complete waste. So, I drove up TN-21 north to the unopened interchange with I-69 to check it out before the sunset. Below are the four pics I quickly took. I added links as the file sizes are rather large.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/194446137@N03/51693048322/in/album-72157720172236422/
Future I-69/TN-21 eastbound zoomed view

https://www.flickr.com/photos/194446137@N03/51693046892/in/album-72157720172236422/
Future I-69/TN-21 westbound zoomed view

Thanks for this! Last I came through it was just a bunch of dirt & gravel trucks going up and down Perry Browder Road.

It looks like the unpaved section to the West is the original I-69 construction from 2012.

abqtraveler

Now with the $1T Bipartisan Infrastructure (cough...pork) Bill signed into law, will TDOT be moving ahead with getting the bypass around Troy, and the interchange at South Fulton finished?
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

mvak36

Quote from: abqtraveler on November 23, 2021, 09:15:19 AM
Now with the $1T Bipartisan Infrastructure (cough...pork) Bill signed into law, will TDOT be moving ahead with getting the bypass around Troy, and the interchange at South Fulton finished?

I could be wrong but I thought those projects were already in the Improve Act. I can't go and check it unfortunately since they disabled the map that showed all the projects.
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hbelkins

Quote from: abqtraveler on November 23, 2021, 09:15:19 AM
Now with the $1T Bipartisan Infrastructure (cough...pork) Bill signed into law, will TDOT be moving ahead with getting the bypass around Troy, and the interchange at South Fulton finished?

I'm not sure how much of that South Fulton work will be TDOT's responsibility, and how much will be KYTC's, since they'll definitely have to do some of the work on the north side of the state line.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

CoolAngrybirdsrio4

From TDOT back a few weeks ago:

QuoteOBION COUNTY, Future I-69 (Phase 3): Grading, drainage, construction of bridges and paving on future I-69 from west of SR 21 to US 51 (SR 3) will cause possible lane closures throughout the project. Thursday, September 16, 2021: Speed limit will be reduced to 55 MPH in the NBL from LM 21.8 to LM 24.0 & LM 21.0 to LM 26.45 and 45 MPH in the SBL from LM 30.1 to LM 26.55 & LM 26.0 to LM 24.45. Tuesday, October 13, 2020: Bethlehem Road north from Clifford Rives Road to Lindenwood Road closed. Claude Tucker Road north from Cloys Road to Section Line Road closed. Detour routes are posted.

Source: https://www.tn.gov/tdot/news/2021/11/10/west-tennessee-weekly-construction-november-10-17--2021.html
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Avalanchez71

If one area did not need an upgrade it is this area.

hbelkins

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on December 06, 2021, 02:12:51 PM
If one area did not need an upgrade it is this area.

Actually, the Union City bypass was the most-needed upgrade. Offhand, I can't think of any other traffic light-lade stretch between Fulton and Dyersburg.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

sprjus4

^ The Troy to Union City stretch is the only portion of Fulton to Dyersburg that's not already up to full interstate standards.

abqtraveler

Quote from: sprjus4 on December 06, 2021, 03:38:39 PM
^ The Troy to Union City stretch is the only portion of Fulton to Dyersburg that's not already up to full interstate standards.
Only the Union City Bypass is under construction at this time. TDOT will start construction on the Troy Bypass after the Union City stretch is done, but there's no timeline for that yet.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

edwaleni

I checked the Google Earth this AM and noticed many road closures that followed the route of that tornado that traveled over 200 miles.

Road closures started west and in Hayti MO in the bootheel across Tenn and KY on the west ends,

Appears it crossed I-69 west of Mayfield around 10:30PM last night and then went and destroyed the town.

I-69 is still showing as shutdown from Mayfield back to Benton due to overturned trucks and debris.

Other road closures along I-69 includes Cambridge Springs, Princeton, Dawson Springs, south of Madisonville where they are still cleaning up the aftermath on I-69. On to Bremen, Hartford.

You could almost calls this the "I-69 tornado"


ilpt4u

Quote from: edwaleni on December 11, 2021, 05:38:33 PM
I checked the Google Earth this AM and noticed many road closures that followed the route of that tornado that traveled over 200 miles.

Road closures started west and in Hayti MO in the bootheel across Tenn and KY on the west ends,

Appears it crossed I-69 west of Mayfield around 10:30PM last night and then went and destroyed the town.

I-69 is still showing as shutdown from Mayfield back to Benton due to overturned trucks and debris.

Other road closures along I-69 includes Cambridge Springs, Princeton, Dawson Springs, south of Madisonville where they are still cleaning up the aftermath on I-69. On to Bremen, Hartford.

You could almost calls this the "I-69 tornado"
Probably a better fit as part of the thread on the tornado on the Weather board: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30668.0

FWIW, I had that thought, too, watching the news coverage last night on WPSD

edwaleni

Quote from: ilpt4u on December 11, 2021, 05:45:38 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on December 11, 2021, 05:38:33 PM
I checked the Google Earth this AM and noticed many road closures that followed the route of that tornado that traveled over 200 miles.

Road closures started west and in Hayti MO in the bootheel across Tenn and KY on the west ends,

Appears it crossed I-69 west of Mayfield around 10:30PM last night and then went and destroyed the town.

I-69 is still showing as shutdown from Mayfield back to Benton due to overturned trucks and debris.

Other road closures along I-69 includes Cambridge Springs, Princeton, Dawson Springs, south of Madisonville where they are still cleaning up the aftermath on I-69. On to Bremen, Hartford.

You could almost calls this the "I-69 tornado"
Probably a better fit as part of the thread on the tornado on the Weather board: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30668.0

FWIW, I had that thought, too, watching the news coverage last night on WPSD

Thanks for the tip. I was looking to see where the most appropriate spot was. Now I see road closures going back all the way to just east of Jonesboro AR. This was a bad one for sure.

I will post over there.



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