US 9, person says it was an interstate highway

[ilvny]

Someone I know claims that US 9 in New Jersey was once Interstate 9.  I'm not sure that's he's right.  I researched Route 9 online and did not find anything that indicated it was an Interstate.  Since most of it is only two lanes and I couldn't find any evidence that it was an interstate, I believe that he is incorrect.  There is one curious thing. 



This shield on this sign looks like it was meant for an interstate rather than a US highway.  I believe the wrong shield was used, but I don't know for sure.

Was US 9 an interstate or a proposed interstate or was it always US 9?  I believe it was always US 9.

[agentsteel53]

that's just a sign goof that should not be read into.

US-9 has always been US-9.

[ilvny]

that's just a sign goof that should not be read into.

US-9 has always been US-9.

I figured it was a goof.  In Philadelphia, the Cottman Avenue signs with the Route 73 shield have a US shield instead of the PA shield.

[NE2]

US 9 was once I-99, but Bud Shuster got the number removed.

[dgolub]

that's just a sign goof that should not be read into.

US-9 has always been US-9.

Right.  Not to mention that most of it isn't remotely close to meeting interstate standards.

[jeffandnicole]

I-9 would be located around California, not NJ.

The closest US 9 gets to being an interstate highway is when it's co-signed with I-95 crossing the GWB.

The specific purpose of the GSP was to bypass US 9, which for nearly it's entire length goes thru business/commercial districts and communities.  On occasion, US 9 is co-signed with the GSP.  In the North part of the state, US 9 is co-signed with US 1.  But none of these areas are, or have ever been, an interstate highway.

[roadman65]

Welcome to the world of roads.  You will find many places where the wrong shields are used such as state for US, US for state, even US for county I have discovered.  When conversing with non road geeks, you will here many odd things as well.  That is all the fun in this community.  So sit back and just enjoy the ride.

[jwolfer]

Someone I know claims that US 9 in New Jersey was once Interstate 9.  I'm not sure that's he's right.  I researched Route 9 online and did not find anything that indicated it was an Interstate.  Since most of it is only two lanes and I couldn't find any evidence that it was an interstate, I believe that he is incorrect.  There is one curious thing. 



This shield on this sign looks like it was meant for an interstate rather than a US highway.  I believe the wrong shield was used, but I don't know for sure.

Was US 9 an interstate or a proposed interstate or was it always US 9?  I believe it was always US 9.

It could be said the US 9 is and interstate highway.  But not an Interstate highway

[Henry]

Someone I know claims that US 9 in New Jersey was once Interstate 9.  I'm not sure that's he's right.  I researched Route 9 online and did not find anything that indicated it was an Interstate.  Since most of it is only two lanes and I couldn't find any evidence that it was an interstate, I believe that he is incorrect.  There is one curious thing. 



This shield on this sign looks like it was meant for an interstate rather than a US highway.  I believe the wrong shield was used, but I don't know for sure.

Was US 9 an interstate or a proposed interstate or was it always US 9?  I believe it was always US 9.

It could be said the US 9 is and interstate highway.  But not an Interstate highway

Agreed! And there's no need to remake it into such, with the Garden State Parkway parallelling it at said location.

BTW, I-9 has been tossed around as a potential update to the CA 99 corridor on the other side of the country, though some would prefer that it become I-7 instead.

[jwolfer]

Someone I know claims that US 9 in New Jersey was once Interstate 9.  I'm not sure that's he's right.  I researched Route 9 online and did not find anything that indicated it was an Interstate.  Since most of it is only two lanes and I couldn't find any evidence that it was an interstate, I believe that he is incorrect.  There is one curious thing. 



This shield on this sign looks like it was meant for an interstate rather than a US highway.  I believe the wrong shield was used, but I don't know for sure.

Was US 9 an interstate or a proposed interstate or was it always US 9?  I believe it was always US 9.

It could be said the US 9 is and interstate highway.  But not an Interstate highway

Agreed! And there's no need to remake it into such, with the Garden State Parkway parallelling it at said location.

BTW, I-9 has been tossed around as a potential update to the CA 99 corridor on the other side of the country, though some would prefer that it become I-7 instead.

US 9 could stand some widening in Monmouth and Ocean counties, especailly in Lakewood and Toms River.  If it were in Florida it would be 6 lanes through Middlesex, Monmouth and to the GSP in Toms River.  I think it could use at least 4 lanes from South Toms River to Route 72 in Manahawkin, with some 6 lanes around South Toms River and Beachwood...  But this would be in fictional highways, because its never happening with NJDOT saying that walking should be encourged in lieu of widening in Lakewood and Toms River not the mention the Pinelands

[vdeane]

It could be said the US 9 is and interstate highway.  But not an Interstate highway

I did not know that US 9 entered Alanland.

[SteveG1988]

It could be said the US 9 is and interstate highway.  But not an Interstate highway

I did not know that US 9 entered Alanland.

US9 was annexed in the great war of 2074

[Pete from Boston]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

[Alps]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

[Pete from Boston]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

And clearly, you're familiar with MA NJ 2:

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_2/e.html

[Alps]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

And clearly, you're familiar with MA NJ 2:

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_2/e.html

No, that's NJ MA 2, different state with its own issues.

[bugo]

YHBT

[jeffandnicole]

There's a US NJ 42 in Deptford.

[Pete from Boston]

If you've lived in New Jersey, you'd know that what defines it is being between other places.  In keeping with that theme, it has a whole system of in-between routes that straddle caregories, like Interstate US 9.  NJ Route 27, for example, is not a NJ state route at all but rather a joint part of the New York and Pennsylvania systems.  Bergen County 503 is both an eight-lane tolled facility and bank drive-thru lane. 

US NJ 122
US NJ 173
NJ US 1, 9, 9W, 22, 30, 40, 46, 202, 206 - I've found all but 322
PA NJ 183
NJ I-80

And clearly, you're familiar with MA NJ 2:

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_2/e.html

No, that's NJ MA 2, different state with its own issues.

I hardly think MA US 202 or MA US 20 count as "issues."  They're lifestyle choices.

[vdeane]

So do we classify a route as how it was classified at creation or how it self-identifies?  And when the routes transition, do they need a therapist?

[kphoger]

And when the routes transition, do they need a therapist?

Yes, especially because the change was forced upon them.

[US71]

Was US 9 an interstate or a proposed interstate or was it always US 9?  I believe it was always US 9.

Well, on a technicality, it is an interstate highway since it crosses state lines, but it's not an Interstate in the sense of I-90   

[roadman65]

Was US 9 an interstate or a proposed interstate or was it always US 9?  I believe it was always US 9.

Well, on a technicality, it is an interstate highway since it crosses state lines, but it's not an Interstate in the sense of I-90   

Does it cross state lines or state line?  Remember the road physically does not cross the NJ- DE Border as it ends on both shores of the mighty Delaware Bay with a ferry service crossing the actual boundary.

[jeffandnicole]

The routing crosses state lines.

[roadman65]

The routing crosses state lines.

Both Yes and No!  Depending how you look at it.