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U.S. 301 toll road project in Delaware

Started by Alex, March 22, 2009, 11:21:28 AM

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PHLBOS

Quote from: MASTERNC on January 22, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
According to DelDOT, one of the sections is nearing completion, ahead of schedule.

https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=6948
What's not mentioned in the above-link is once Section 1C (there should've been a description of what/where this section covers) is completed, will it be actually opened to traffic or will DelDOT wait for some or all of the remaining segments to be completed.
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Alex4897

Quote from: PHLBOS on January 23, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on January 22, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
According to DelDOT, one of the sections is nearing completion, ahead of schedule.

https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=6948
What's not mentioned in the above-link is once Section 1C (there should've been a description of what/where this section covers) is completed, will it be actually opened to traffic or will DelDOT wait for some or all of the remaining segments to be completed.

Section 1C only spans the gap between the Norfolk Southern Railroad overpass and the DE 896 / Boyds Corner Road overpass, so I think it's a safe bet that this section will remain unopened until the adjacent sections and their interchanges are complete.

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Mergingtraffic

Quote from: MASTERNC on January 22, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
According to DelDOT, one of the sections is nearing completion, ahead of schedule.

https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=6948

Will they open the road in sections as they're completed or wait and open it all at once?
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froggie

Given the interchange locations, there's no midpoint that would offer more good than harm for a sectional opening.  I expect them to wait until it's all finished.

Roadsguy

Is the spur to the Summit Bridge being built now or later?
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

MASTERNC

Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website

https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301

Beltway

Quote from: MASTERNC on September 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301

$4.00 for a car using EZPass... wow.
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Rothman

Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on September 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301

$4.00 for a car using EZPass... wow.
No kidding.

Pay your gas taxes AND tolls.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Beltway

Quote from: Rothman on September 04, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on September 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301
$4.00 for a car using EZPass... wow.
No kidding.  Pay your gas taxes AND tolls.

17 miles of 4-lane freeway and no major bridges.  24 cents per mile is very high.
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oscar

Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on September 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301

$4.00 for a car using EZPass... wow.

Same as on the shorter tolled segment of I-95.
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Mapmikey

Also the toll for anything other than crossing the state line appears to be $1 or less for EZ-pass.  The $4 toll is aimed at out-of-staters who are avoiding their I-95 toll booth...

Beltway

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 05, 2018, 07:12:20 AM
Also the toll for anything other than crossing the state line appears to be $1 or less for EZ-pass.  The $4 toll is aimed at out-of-staters who are avoiding their I-95 toll booth...

What about someone following the US-301 corridor from the Maryland Eastern Shore into Delaware to Wilmington and north?  They would not be avoiding the I-95 toll booth per se.
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Rothman

Quote from: oscar on September 05, 2018, 06:26:40 AM
Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on September 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301

$4.00 for a car using EZPass... wow.

Same as on the shorter tolled segment of I-95.
That is a one-way toll on a bridge over the Susquehanna, isn't it?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 05, 2018, 07:12:20 AM
Also the toll for anything other than crossing the state line appears to be $1 or less for EZ-pass.  The $4 toll is aimed at out-of-staters who are avoiding their I-95 toll booth...

People using the new 301 aren't trying to avoid the I-95's toll plaza, as most people wouldn't have previously paid the toll then taken MD 213 south to get to this general area. 

But, will they exit/enter at Levels Rd to save $3 each direction?  Probably.

PHLBOS

Quote from: Rothman on September 05, 2018, 08:08:21 AM
Quote from: oscar on September 05, 2018, 06:26:40 AM
Quote from: Beltway on September 04, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on September 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Not sure if anyone else picked this up but the US 301 toll calculator is now up on DelDOT's website
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTollRateUS301

$4.00 for a car using EZPass... wow.

Same as on the shorter tolled segment of I-95.
That is a one-way toll on a bridge over the Susquehanna, isn't it?
No, Oscar's referring to the two-way toll plaza in Delaware just north of the Maryland State line.  Such is very easy to shunpike using the DE 896 & MD 279 interchanges (via either DE 896 or US 40). 

The one-way (northbound) toll at the Susquehanna crossing in Perryville/Havre de Grace, MD is $8 ($6 for MD-issued E-ZPass accounts).
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ixnay

Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 05, 2018, 08:57:19 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on September 05, 2018, 07:12:20 AM
Also the toll for anything other than crossing the state line appears to be $1 or less for EZ-pass.  The $4 toll is aimed at out-of-staters who are avoiding their I-95 toll booth...

People using the new 301 aren't trying to avoid the I-95's toll plaza, as most people wouldn't have previously paid the toll then taken MD 213 south to get to this general area. 

But, will they exit/enter at Levels Rd to save $3 each direction?  Probably.

Galena and Cecilton, MD (and their lone stoplights) should get ready to see plenty of shunpikers as they take MD 313 north, MD 213 north, and MD 282 east/DE 299 north to get around the first EZPass arch.

ixnay
The Washington/Baltimore/Arlington CSA has two Key Bridges, a Minnesota Avenue, and a Mannasota Avenue.

vdeane

That road from MD 299 at US 301 to MD 282 looks shorter.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

roadman65

#192
Not to mention that once in DE there is no way to leave US 301. You have to do it at the last at grade in MD, unless they added a ramp to current US 301 after the border.

Delaware and their high tolls can go where the sun don't shine, but given all the stupid people who used to end up at my toll booth in Florida for lack of obeying the signs they were taught to follow in Drivers Ed, will be ending up paying for this (and even more so if the idiots who travel cash-less and think the debit card is universal ignorantly listen to the GPS that puts them there end up here)  showing the government here its a gold mine for them.  Also these careless everyday drivers are even showing how collecting tolls can basically be like taking candy away from a baby including the semi drivers who showed up at my booth without money especially.
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Alps

Quote from: vdeane on September 06, 2018, 01:17:42 PM
That road from MD 299 at US 301 to MD 282 looks shorter.
Old 301. (Or depending on your timeline, the old MD 299 to connect to DE 299.)

ixnay

#194
Quote from: vdeane on September 06, 2018, 01:17:42 PM
That road from MD 299 at US 301 to MD 282 looks shorter.

Yes.  Coming from Sassafras and Massey, MD 299 ends at 301 but continues towards Warwick as a county road (Sassafras Road), which Cecil County will have to fix eventually if it gets too beaten by shunpikers (weight limits much?).  Will the average through motorist have Sassafras Road on his/her mental radar without the aid of Google Maps/MapQuest/etc.?

ixnay
The Washington/Baltimore/Arlington CSA has two Key Bridges, a Minnesota Avenue, and a Mannasota Avenue.

vdeane

Would the average through motorist have any shupike route on their mental radar without the use of Google Maps, Waze, etc.?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

MASTERNC

Not surprised with the tolls.  I read that I-95 tolls bring in more to the DOT than the gas tax.

TheOneKEA

Will MDSHA or DelDOT be responsible for installing BGSes that advertise the toll plaza beyond the state line? MD used to not advertise the tolls on I-95 past Exit 109, but they do now - will they insist on doing the same here?

jeffandnicole

Quote from: vdeane on September 06, 2018, 09:14:32 PM
Would the average through motorist have any shupike route on their mental radar without the use of Google Maps, Waze, etc.?

Nope.  The average motorist without EZ Pass will be surprised to get a bill 3 weeks later asking them to pay up though!


Roadsguy

I asked about the designation of the proposed spur route and was told that it won't be US 301 Spur. It won't have any designation of its own. They said it will likely be signed "To DE 896 — Newark" and "To US 301 Toll South — Middletown, Annapolis," though signage won't be finalized until they actually start on it.

Also, I notice from the newest satellite imagery and flyover videos that unlike most of DE 1, the new US 301 is being built with concrete shoulders on the mainline and ramps.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.



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