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Mid-South / Re: I-69 in Arkansas
Last post by Bobby5280 - Today at 03:01:10 PM
There is no question I-40 between Little Rock and Memphis is slammed with traffic. Truck traffic is insane on that stretch.
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Central States / Re: Corridor 58/Theodore Roose...
Last post by Bobby5280 - Today at 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: splashflashThe work on converting the road to 4 lane is well underway but not 4 lane divided, rather 4 lanes with a paved median.

That's not necessarily a deal breaker for a possible future upgrade to Interstate quality. I-44 South of Lawton looks like a 5-lane street; it just has a cable barrier installed in the concrete median.

The key things needed for any potential freeway upgrade: the main lanes need to have grading and curve geometry good enough for Interstate standards. The harder requirement: there has to be enough available space at intersections to build on/off ramps. If efforts aren't good enough at preserving ROW any future Interstate upgrade would be very difficult due to buildings and other stuff that have to be bought and removed.
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Pacific Southwest / Re: 580 is unconstructed from ...
Last post by dbz77 - Today at 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: tawnuskgrevy on May 14, 2024, 12:37:22 PM
Quote from: heynow415 on May 06, 2024, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 05, 2024, 04:29:03 PMThat corridor was also explored as part of the 1973 Federal Aid Highway Act.  The alignment over Echo Summit included a tunnel.

If you rummage around with SLT parcel maps, such as the GIS maps on this site: https://see-eldorado.edcgov.us/ugotnet/ , it sure looks like not only was a corridor identified and/or adopted but future right of way was acquired or otherwise reserved at one time.  There is a broken chain of parcels that have the characteristics of a future freeway, including flaring out at certain intersections for interchanges. 
For example, between the airport and Onnontioga Street there is a strip parcel that flares where Washoan Blvd. dead-ends. Another runs parallel to Barbara Avenue and northeast of that on either side of Al Tahoe Blvd is another segment that flares for what would have been another interchange.  There are then several property lines diagonal to the underlying block layout that would reflect the corridor sweeping across Pioneer Trail at Needle Peak Road, with another potential interchange at Ski Run Blvd., and then an large strip parcel that runs behind the Raley's shopping center and Heavenly Village that flares out again for another potential interchange at stateline. 
Coincidence?  Perhaps but being in the land planning business, having property lines and parcels like this is very suggestive of a planned transportation corridor, particularly in an area where property lines tend to be straight and square or follow natural features like a creek.  Zooming out a bit on the map it is easy to see how these could link together to provide that once-planned freeway corridor that would wind around more developed areas.

The Tahoe Conservancy owns a good portion of those parcels and has all their properties highlighted on a GIS map that makes the planned corridor really easy to see (especially at the northeast end); it's very neat to have this level of evidence for a planned-and-abandoned project like this:






Too bad we never had the freeway.

Imagine going through the tunnel at Echo Summit, and then reaching a four-lane freeway around the sotheast edge of the Tahoe Basib, being able to reach Stateline in only five minutes.

If that freeway had been built in the 1970's as planned, most of the developmnet would have been along the freeway corridor, away from the shoreline.
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Pacific Southwest / Re: Headlines About California...
Last post by FredAkbar - Today at 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on Today at 02:12:19 PMWell, i'm not really sure what to say at this point. If there's anywhere else I feel I could live, it would be san francisco. But I want a row home there.

If you're annoyed by how LA treats roads, you sure as hell wouldn't like SF. I posted some gripes a while back and I'm sure it's only gotten worse since I moved away a year ago. And I didn't even mention the city's obsession with 4-way stops. There are whole neighborhoods comprised of a massive grid of 4-way stops. I get the safety benefit but having to stop at a stop sign (often with no other cars around) every block is annoying, bad for emissions, etc.
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General Highway Talk / Re: Which Non-Interstates In Y...
Last post by thspfc - Today at 02:42:19 PM
Quote from: Big John on June 06, 2024, 04:53:22 PMWisconsin
US 10, 12, 14, 41, 45, 51, 53, 61, 151
WI 16, 26, 29, 64, 145, 441
Does US-61 have its own numbers anywhere? Should be on 151's in Grant County.
#6
Sports / Re: Hockey
Last post by ET21 - Today at 02:39:14 PM
Edmonton scored all the goals they were supposed to in Games 1 and 2 in Game 4
#7
Pacific Southwest / Re: Interstate 11 alignment, t...
Last post by cl94 - Today at 02:31:16 PM
Furthermore, if you make some weird jog to Carson, I would bet that a decent amount of traffic cuts the corner up to I-80. Short of some very expensive engineering to tunnel under the Wassuk Range west of Hawthorne, any reasonable route to Carson would involve a pretty big detour from a reasonable Reno-Vegas routing.

There's a reason why Carson City wasn't on the I-system until the 2010s and terrain is a large part of it. The city is in a valley with rugged mountains surrounding it, and these mountains have a ton of seismic activity. The only realistic route east is that used by US 50, which runs NE from Carson.
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Pacific Southwest / Re: Interstate 11 alignment, t...
Last post by kkt - Today at 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on Today at 07:36:02 AMI-11 makes sense from 80 in Reno to 10 in Phoenix. no need for it elsewhere.

I put it farther south at both ends:  from Las Vegas (or Indian Springs) to I-8 at Gila Bend.

Geography generally gets the last word unless you have particularly huge needs and a particularly huge budget.  Interstate from Las Vegas to Reno has neither.
#9
Probably has more to do with US 395 being extended through Nevada several years prior to US 95.  US 95 being extended was delayed largely by how poor conditions on the ION Highway in Oregon were.
#10
This state has a lot of areas that more align with infrastructure stance you want.  The problem is that you're just limiting yourself to considering places that don't have want those things anymore. 

I'm not sure what the point of complaining to us is?  It isn't as though most of us on this board don't understand the current infrastructure climate in metro Los Angeles. 

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