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Most Unnecessary Interstate

Started by theroadwayone, October 02, 2017, 01:03:19 AM

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theroadwayone

Other than I-99 (reasons y'all might or might not know,) what is the most unnecessary interstate highway in the entire system, 2di or 3di? Let me hear your thoughts below.


Quillz


jp the roadgeek

Didn't we just have something like this a month ago?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21020.0

My votes:

I-180 in IL
I-395 in MD
I-195 in ME
I-393 in NH
I-990 in NY
I-587 in NY
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

Takumi

Quote from: Quillz on October 02, 2017, 01:05:16 AM
I-97
Eh, I have to disagree on this one. The number is debatable (personally I think it should be 83 or an x95) but it's a perfectly fine interstate.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 02, 2017, 01:38:23 AM
Didn't we just have something like this a month ago?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21020.0

My votes:

I-180 in IL
I-395 in MD
I-195 in ME
I-393 in NH
I-990 in NY
I-587 in NY

Newer user, they don't know to dig into the old thread list just yet it seems.  I stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.

froggie

Quote from: Max RockatanskyI stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.

I'd argue that connecting the capital city of a state to the 2nd largest city and a major transcontinental highway, especially given the pre-existing traffic levels and relatively short distance, is justifiable.

Henry

Any unsigned 3di, like I-305 CA, I-595 MD and I-910 LA.
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Quillz

I'd rather have 305 signed than the 80 business loop.

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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: froggie on October 02, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Max RockatanskyI stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.

I'd argue that connecting the capital city of a state to the 2nd largest city and a major transcontinental highway, especially given the pre-existing traffic levels and relatively short distance, is justifiable.

Yeah, I'd be more for 3d routes like that it they actually weren't completely multiplexed with US Routes like I-580 is.  It isn't like that really brings anything to the table from a navigation stand point. 

JasonOfORoads

Quote from: froggie on October 02, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Max RockatanskyI stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.

I'd argue that connecting the capital city of a state to the 2nd largest city and a major transcontinental highway, especially given the pre-existing traffic levels and relatively short distance, is justifiable.

Also the fact that the freeway portion in Reno was always I-580 and only became "visible" recently. If the total 395 multiplex is such a big deal, move 395 back onto the old alignment and call it good.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: JasonOfORoads on October 02, 2017, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 02, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Max RockatanskyI stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.

I'd argue that connecting the capital city of a state to the 2nd largest city and a major transcontinental highway, especially given the pre-existing traffic levels and relatively short distance, is justifiable.

Also the fact that the freeway portion in Reno was always I-580 and only became "visible" recently. If the total 395 multiplex is such a big deal, move 395 back onto the old alignment and call it good.

That would be great but a lot of the surface alignment was turned back over, see Carson City and the road diet saga entails.

ilpt4u

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2017, 08:04:05 AM
I stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.
On that standard, I-39 in IL/WI due to Multiplexed with US 51 most of its journey, and when its not, with I-90/94 and US 51 in parallel

ET21

Quote from: inkyatari on October 02, 2017, 10:45:43 AM
Quote from: ET21 on October 02, 2017, 10:13:18 AM
I-180 IL

Most pointless 3DI in the US

So much so that while storm chasing, I was able to walk down the northbound lanes with no traffic for a good 45 minutes
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

ilpt4u

Quote from: inkyatari on October 02, 2017, 10:45:43 AM
Quote from: ET21 on October 02, 2017, 10:13:18 AM
I-180 IL

Most pointless 3DI in the US
I agree with that sentiment...

But then again, 3DIs that are really glorified, long ramps are pretty silly, too. I-865 NW of Indy comes to mind...just a long, glorified ramp between I-65 and NW corner of I-465, no other access along the route

It serves a purpose for travel purposes, but for numbering...I'd rather just sign it as "To I-65" Westbound and "To I-465" Eastbound

I-180 in IL hits it both by uselessness in Traffic/travel purposes, and in Numbering/Designation

catsynth

Quote from: Quillz on October 02, 2017, 01:05:16 AM
I-180 (Wyoming)
I-238
I-97


I-238 is actually quite useful, despite its infamous number.  It is a major trucking route for traffic coming from I-5 coming to the Bay Area - all trucks must exit I-580 onto I-238 and take I-880 N to SF/Oakland or S to San Jose and the bridge crossings.
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Completed 2di: I-80, I-87 (NY), I-84 (E), I-86 (E), I-97, I-44

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cl94

I-587. Even its parent won't acknowledge its existence. Entire thing is concurrent with NY 28 (which shares a terminus) and could easily be signed as just that. Lord knows NYSDOT has installed enough 587 shields.

I-990 was mentioned and I'll say this about it: it was intended to be significantly longer. Depending on the plan, would have gone anywhere from Lockport to Rochester.
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Quillz

Quote from: catsynth on October 02, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Quillz on October 02, 2017, 01:05:16 AM
I-180 (Wyoming)
I-238
I-97


I-238 is actually quite useful, despite its infamous number.  It is a major trucking route for traffic coming from I-5 coming to the Bay Area - all trucks must exit I-580 onto I-238 and take I-880 N to SF/Oakland or S to San Jose and the bridge crossings.

The number is specifically why I consider it unnecessary. I'm of the opinion just leaving it as CA-238 would have been better, although I'm aware of the history and why it was given the badge.

Same reason I think I-97 is unnecessary. Would have been perfectly fine as either a 3di (perhaps something like 995?) or just an I-83 extension. A useful 2-digit number was now wasted.

GenExpwy

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2017, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: froggie on October 02, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
Quote from: Max RockatanskyI stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.

I'd argue that connecting the capital city of a state to the 2nd largest city and a major transcontinental highway, especially given the pre-existing traffic levels and relatively short distance, is justifiable.

Yeah, I'd be more for 3d routes like that it they actually weren't completely multiplexed with US Routes like I-580 is.  It isn't like that really brings anything to the table from a navigation stand point.

So why not I-393, which completely overlaps two US routes (4 and 202), and goes absolutely nowhere?

freebrickproductions

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2017, 08:04:05 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 02, 2017, 01:38:23 AM
Didn't we just have something like this a month ago?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21020.0

My votes:

I-180 in IL
I-395 in MD
I-195 in ME
I-393 in NH
I-990 in NY
I-587 in NY

Newer user, they don't know to dig into the old thread list just yet it seems.  I stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.
Also, my thread focused on 3dis, this one allows 2dis to be brought in for discussion as well.
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hotdogPi

Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 02, 2017, 08:08:29 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2017, 08:04:05 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 02, 2017, 01:38:23 AM
Didn't we just have something like this a month ago?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21020.0

My votes:

I-180 in IL
I-395 in MD
I-195 in ME
I-393 in NH
I-990 in NY
I-587 in NY

Newer user, they don't know to dig into the old thread list just yet it seems.  I stand by I-580 in Nevada due to the total US 395 multiplex.
Also, my thread focused on 3dis, this one allows 2dis to be brought in for discussion as well.

Except for ones in progress like I-14, no 2di will make the list of "most unnecessary".
Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

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ilpt4u

I-39, in terms of Designation, is pretty unnecessary. US 51 was/is fine for the roadway

The Freeway Corridor, one could argue, is pretty important, as a functional north/south Chicago Bypass, and could legitimately be upgraded to Interstate Standard as far south as I-57 near Salem, IL

A similar argument could be made for I-41 in WI, as it simply duplicates US 41

ZLoth

Interstate 180 (Illinois) - Least traveled interstate
Interstate 238 (California) - Does not follow numbering rules, only 2.126 miles long, not federally funded
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