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Redesignating US 63

Started by US71, November 06, 2018, 10:48:31 PM

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andy3175

Quote from: jbnv on May 26, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 25, 2021, 08:58:06 PM
IMO, what should have been done was:
     (1) Truncate US 167 [north of] I-530/US 65

Couple that with replacing US 167 with 63 south of El Dorado and there's no reason for US 167 to continue to exist. The short segment between I-530 and El Dorado should have been US 63W.

Agreed. US 167 no longer needs to exist if US 63 can replace most of it.
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Anthony_JK

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 24, 2021, 04:01:04 PM
They probably should have rerouted US 63 this way in 1999, when 63 was extended to Reston, Louisiana; or in 2016, when Interstate 555 was officially designated. That being said, I think US 63 should have terminated at US 167 in El Dorado, and should not have duplexed with 167 all the way to Reston, unless the purpose was for the US 63 extension to terminate at an Interstate Highway.

*Ruston*, not Reston.

Anthony_JK

Quote from: jbnv on May 25, 2021, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on May 24, 2021, 10:06:07 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 24, 2021, 04:01:04 PM
They probably should have rerouted US 63 this way in 1999, when 63 was extended to Reston, Louisiana; or in 2016, when Interstate 555 was officially designated. That being said, I think US 63 should have terminated at US 167 in El Dorado, and should not have duplexed with 167 all the way to Reston, unless the purpose was for the US 63 extension to terminate at an Interstate Highway.

With I-555 now southeast of Jonesboro they should just completely replace US 167 in LA and AR with US 63 and the section between US 412 and I-555 becoming AR-555.

I wouldn't take US 167-cum-63 any further than I-49 at the terminus of the Pineville Expressway. (Hey look, termination at an interstate! Yay!) US 167 doesn't really serve any purpose south of Alexandria other than connecting Ville Platte and Abbeville to the US system.

The main problem with extending US 63 into Louisiana is that La. doesn't let LA highways share numbers with US highways, and we already have an LA 63. That's probably why US 63 doesn't go any further than Ruston and multiplexes with 167 in its entirety in La.; it's technically "LA" 167.

And if ceremonial multiplexing isn't a problem, then US 165 Alexandria to Lake Charles makes more sense than US 167 Alexandria to Abbeville.

If ceremonial multiplexing isn't a problem, maybe re-route an extended US 63 through Alexandria down LA 1/LA 10 through Avoyelles and Pointe Coupee parishes and terminate it at US 61 near St. Francisville?

Ville Platte's connection to the NHS is perfectly fine via LA 10 (which runs concurrent with US 167 through that town), and LA 29 (Tate Cove Road, which interchanges with I-49 just to the north). Just extend LA 10 east along the recently built extension at Nuba to I-49, run it on that route to the current interchange north of Washington, and call it a day.

Now, what you would do with US 167 from Lafayette to Abbeville via Maurice? A different kettle of crawfish. (Hello, 4dius? US 3167??)

The Ghostbuster

Maybe US 167 could be truncated to Ruston (or El Dorado) and US 63 could be extended to Abbeville. Maybe that would give US 63's 1999 extension more legitimacy.

sparker

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 28, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Maybe US 167 could be truncated to Ruston (or El Dorado) and US 63 could be extended to Abbeville. Maybe that would give US 63's 1999 extension more legitimacy.

That would result in US 63 having multiplexes with both US 49 and I-49!  Can't think of any other N-S 2dus where that's the case.

Mapmikey

Quote from: sparker on May 28, 2021, 04:17:24 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 28, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Maybe US 167 could be truncated to Ruston (or El Dorado) and US 63 could be extended to Abbeville. Maybe that would give US 63's 1999 extension more legitimacy.

That would result in US 63 having multiplexes with both US 49 and I-49!  Can't think of any other N-S 2dus where that's the case.

US 59 does this with US 69 and I-69

US 45 does this with US 41 and I-41

sparker

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 28, 2021, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 28, 2021, 04:17:24 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 28, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Maybe US 167 could be truncated to Ruston (or El Dorado) and US 63 could be extended to Abbeville. Maybe that would give US 63's 1999 extension more legitimacy.

That would result in US 63 having multiplexes with both US 49 and I-49!  Can't think of any other N-S 2dus where that's the case.

US 59 does this with US 69 and I-69

US 45 does this with US 41 and I-41

Oops -- forgot about the US 59/69 multiplex on the Lufkin bypass -- but I-69 hasn't quite gotten there yet -- and US 69 may not be rerouted on the I-69 bypass when constructed; we shall see sometime relatively soon.  As for the US 41/I-41 multiplex in which US 45 sporadically interfaces -- that's something of an arbitrary fluke.  I should have specified multiplexes in separate locations on the US route in question.  Oh well, too late now! 

bassoon1986

Quote from: sparker on May 29, 2021, 04:32:32 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 28, 2021, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 28, 2021, 04:17:24 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 28, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Maybe US 167 could be truncated to Ruston (or El Dorado) and US 63 could be extended to Abbeville. Maybe that would give US 63's 1999 extension more legitimacy.

That would result in US 63 having multiplexes with both US 49 and I-49!  Can't think of any other N-S 2dus where that's the case.

US 59 does this with US 69 and I-69

US 45 does this with US 41 and I-41

Oops -- forgot about the US 59/69 multiplex on the Lufkin bypass -- but I-69 hasn't quite gotten there yet -- and US 69 may not be rerouted on the I-69 bypass when constructed; we shall see sometime relatively soon.  As for the US 41/I-41 multiplex in which US 45 sporadically interfaces -- that's something of an arbitrary fluke.  I should have specified multiplexes in separate locations on the US route in question.  Oh well, too late now!
Actually 59 shares with US 69 twice. It has another good overlap in NE Oklahoma.


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