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Title: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Truvelo on March 13, 2019, 12:30:09 PM
The other day I finally did something I've been wanting to do for many years. I drove the former I-170 in Baltimore and what a shocker it is. The width of the right of way at the western end may be impressive but the road surface is atrocious. The thumping sound in the video isn't part of the music it is the craters between the sections of concrete. I suspect the appalling pavement may be deliberate as the lack of traffic may see it being used as a drag strip. I wonder what the record is? I did as far as MLK Blvd at the posted limit in just over a minute.

Yet it takes an eternity to get from the end of I-70 to Mulberry St. The ramp at the end of I-70 only faces north on Security Blvd so I took Franklintown Road through Leakin Park, big mistake. It's full of speed humps and huge craters. The photo enforced 25mph limit signs are a joke as to reach that speed in places will mess up the underside of your car.

Now that I've driven it I am in no hurry to do it again. Walking into a gas station to see everything covered in bulletproof glass is more distressing than the rough pavement :ded:

Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: abefroman329 on March 14, 2019, 10:03:02 AM
It once stood in for an unspecified section of the New Jersey Turnpike on an episode of The Wire.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Beltway on March 14, 2019, 12:29:59 PM
I took this photo in 1980.  My 1975 Chevrolet Nova stopped on shoulder.  The highway opened in 1979.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcapital-beltway.com%2FI-170-MD-1.jpg&hash=dcaf71a9d38f339af3fb5dd2e35d7e8f31720151)
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Henry on March 14, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
Oh yes, the Highway to Nowhere...further proof that it was a huge mistake to route I-70 through a city park.

I often imagine that the I-494 Crosstown Expressway would've also looked like this, had it been built.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: abefroman329 on March 14, 2019, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: Henry on March 14, 2019, 01:08:04 PMI often imagine that the I-494 Crosstown Expressway would've also looked like this, had it been built.
I'm sure it would have looked the same as the various expressway stubs in Chicagoland.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Truvelo on March 14, 2019, 02:33:05 PM
I wonder what happened to those shields? In someone's collection I hope rather than melted down for scrap.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Anthony_JK on March 17, 2019, 08:18:28 AM
OUCH.

This may be one of the very few freeways that I would favor tearing down and rebuilding as a surface boulevard. If the traffic is that light and the roadway condition is that bad, it's a waste of money.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: abefroman329 on March 17, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
Also, if you want to "see"  it, but are concerned about your personal safety, it's visible from the right side of northbound Amtrak/MARC trains headed towards Baltimore Penn Station.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Alex on March 19, 2019, 08:31:26 AM
Quote from: Truvelo on March 13, 2019, 12:30:09 PM
The other day I finally did something I've been wanting to do for many years. I drove the former I-170 in Baltimore and what a shocker it is. The width of the right of way at the western end may be impressive but the road surface is atrocious. The thumping sound in the video isn't part of the music it is the craters between the sections of concrete. I suspect the appalling pavement may be deliberate as the lack of traffic may see it being used as a drag strip. I wonder what the record is? I did as far as MLK Blvd at the posted limit in just over a minute.

What is going on with the construction at the west end? Are they expanding the parking area?

Watching the video...asides the removal of the roadway and ramp stubs west of U.S. 1, the rest of the old I-170 freeway looks vastly the same from when I first rode on it in 1993. The only other difference is the addition of the tree saplings in the median.

Also saw at the end of the video that the right portion of the US 40 west sign on MLK Boulevard north fell off. It once had an I-170 shield on it:

(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/md-040/mlk-bl-n-at-us-040-6.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/i-170-md/)
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: 1995hoo on March 20, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
"The Chipmunks sing Heart."   :-D
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: silverback1065 on March 20, 2019, 10:52:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on March 14, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
Oh yes, the Highway to Nowhere...further proof that it was a huge mistake to route I-70 through a city park.

I often imagine that the I-494 Crosstown Expressway would've also looked like this, had it been built.

i thought 70 was supposed to go across town to 95 using that route
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 23, 2019, 12:16:31 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 20, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
"The Chipmunks sing Heart."   :-D

Take that, YouTube copyright police!
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: DJStephens on March 23, 2019, 04:58:40 PM
"Boulevarderizing" that would require filling it in.   A fairly large expense.   For the most part Baltimore metro seems to have a surplus of limited access roadways, some of them just stubs.   
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Mergingtraffic on April 04, 2019, 03:03:23 PM
I think this part of highway is fascinating.  Original concrete, signage and the like. I only felt unsafe when I walked it once it was closed off to traffic in 2015.  I was like there is no way out except running for the length if an unsavory character came up to me.  But it didn't happen. First pic is from that time.  The rest are from later visits.  Baltimore is a great roadgeeking city.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5484/14522357724_c399563b9a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/o8hT11)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7816/46647985364_a5ef7d7e7d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e587RJ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7864/40405745543_ce002740d6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24yw1re)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7913/46648106624_b1e8c8c064_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e58JUq)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/813/26231079457_d6d2d77066_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FXX93D)
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: Mergingtraffic on April 04, 2019, 03:04:28 PM
And my favorite sign of all, that's still there:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4471/37790912266_faa9187d66_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZzsiAS)
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: abefroman329 on April 04, 2019, 09:21:05 PM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on April 04, 2019, 03:03:23 PMBaltimore is a great roadgeeking city.
It is, I was there last weekend and ran across some vintage button copy at the beginning of MD-295.
Title: Re: Mulberry Street Freeway Baltimore
Post by: froggie on April 13, 2019, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: AlexWhat is going on with the construction at the west end? Are they expanding the parking area?

Leftovers from the already-completed MARC station parking expansion.  Where they put that parking was an area we toured during the (2011?) Baltimore road meet.