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Re: Missouri
« Reply #225 on: April 26, 2022, 01:24:57 PM »

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article260666987.html

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Kansas City leaders say it’s finally time to build a park atop Interstate 670 in the heart of downtown. Local and federal officials gathered Friday to announce official plans for a $160 million deck over downtown’s south loop. Few details about financing were provided, but officials said a $5 million donation from the Loews Kansas City Hotel will kickstart design and planning efforts. That phase is expected to take between 12 and 18 months, according to a news release from the city.

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City manager Brian Platt said he’s not sure how much Kansas City would need to pitch in for the project — in fact, the total cost is not yet known. But he said the city is backed by federal, state and local stakeholder support. Platt said the city has applied for a $25 million RAISE grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Considering it cost St Louis $380M to build their small (<200' over highway) park over the highway at the Arch, that $5M isn't going to go far. Not sure how much of the St Louis cost was for aesthetics (it is a national park). But KC isn't going to get this done for $160M especially if they want more than one between-the-viaducts segment.
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #226 on: April 26, 2022, 01:59:54 PM »

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article260666987.html

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Kansas City leaders say it’s finally time to build a park atop Interstate 670 in the heart of downtown. Local and federal officials gathered Friday to announce official plans for a $160 million deck over downtown’s south loop. Few details about financing were provided, but officials said a $5 million donation from the Loews Kansas City Hotel will kickstart design and planning efforts. That phase is expected to take between 12 and 18 months, according to a news release from the city.

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City manager Brian Platt said he’s not sure how much Kansas City would need to pitch in for the project — in fact, the total cost is not yet known. But he said the city is backed by federal, state and local stakeholder support. Platt said the city has applied for a $25 million RAISE grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Considering it cost St Louis $380M to build their small (<200' over highway) park over the highway at the Arch, that $5M isn't going to go far. Not sure how much of the St Louis cost was for aesthetics (it is a national park). But KC isn't going to get this done for $160M especially if they want more than one between-the-viaducts segment.

I think the 5 million was to go towards design and planning. I also think that this thing is going to cost a lot more than $160M. I'll believe we are closer to construction if they get this RAISE grant.
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #227 on: April 26, 2022, 03:17:46 PM »

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article260666987.html

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Kansas City leaders say it’s finally time to build a park atop Interstate 670 in the heart of downtown. Local and federal officials gathered Friday to announce official plans for a $160 million deck over downtown’s south loop. Few details about financing were provided, but officials said a $5 million donation from the Loews Kansas City Hotel will kickstart design and planning efforts. That phase is expected to take between 12 and 18 months, according to a news release from the city.

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City manager Brian Platt said he’s not sure how much Kansas City would need to pitch in for the project — in fact, the total cost is not yet known. But he said the city is backed by federal, state and local stakeholder support. Platt said the city has applied for a $25 million RAISE grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Considering it cost St Louis $380M to build their small (<200' over highway) park over the highway at the Arch, that $5M isn't going to go far. Not sure how much of the St Louis cost was for aesthetics (it is a national park). But KC isn't going to get this done for $160M especially if they want more than one between-the-viaducts segment.

I think the 5 million was to go towards design and planning. I also think that this thing is going to cost a lot more than $160M. I'll believe we are closer to construction if they get this RAISE grant.

Agreed. My main point of contention is the estimated $160M which I found incredibly low. It's almost like some official makes up a figure and everybody runs with it without verifying its accuracy.
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #228 on: May 19, 2022, 11:44:36 AM »

2023-2027 Draft STIP is available online. I've only gotten a chance to look at the projects in the KC area. Biggest project is for I-70 between downtown and I-435. Another project of interest is I-49 widening in Cass county as I mentioned in the other thread.

These projects might get delayed if SB262 (gas tax increase from 2021) gets repealed.
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #229 on: May 24, 2022, 06:28:52 PM »

This is post number 670 for me, which makes me think of downtown KC, because of where I live. In turn, it reminds me of the Buck O'Neil Bridge, for which several supports are already up. What's the latest from MoDOT, as far as the timeline for construction?
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #231 on: May 28, 2022, 01:11:36 PM »

^^^^ “ $140 million to modify interchange at the U.S. 63 Connector and Interstate 70 in Columbia.”

That’s a pretty big investment will they be adding flyovers?
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #232 on: May 28, 2022, 02:04:00 PM »

^^^^ “ $140 million to modify interchange at the U.S. 63 Connector and Interstate 70 in Columbia.”

That’s a pretty big investment will they be adding flyovers?

Maybe at least one, there was one proposal who once showed a flyover where I-70 and US-63 meet.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201108000450/http://www1.komu.com/news/i-70-us-63-interchange-in-need-of-major-revamp-still-a-challenge-for-modot/

https://web.archive.org/web/20190709225820/https://www.komu.com/news/i-70-us-63-interchange-in-need-of-major-revamp-still-a-challenge-for-modot/
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #233 on: May 28, 2022, 05:26:57 PM »

^^^^ “ $140 million to modify interchange at the U.S. 63 Connector and Interstate 70 in Columbia.”

That’s a pretty big investment will they be adding flyovers?

Maybe at least one, there was one proposal who once showed a flyover where I-70 and US-63 meet.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201108000450/http://www1.komu.com/news/i-70-us-63-interchange-in-need-of-major-revamp-still-a-challenge-for-modot/

https://web.archive.org/web/20190709225820/https://www.komu.com/news/i-70-us-63-interchange-in-need-of-major-revamp-still-a-challenge-for-modot/


It would be great if they rebuilt the interchange as pictured though three businesses would have to be bought out. It would even be a huge help if they built a direct ramp from EB I-70 to SB US 63. I remember going EB through Columbia during the evening rush hour a few years back and the exit ramp was backed up to the old Business I-70 entrance ramp.
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #234 on: June 01, 2022, 10:24:01 PM »

2023-2027 Draft STIP is available online. I've only gotten a chance to look at the projects in the KC area. Biggest project is for I-70 between downtown and I-435. Another project of interest is I-49 widening in Cass county as I mentioned in the other thread.

A few scoping projects of note:

* Scoping for the Hannibal Expressway (in dark gray)

* Scoping for an interchange for US 65 at MO 86

* Scoping for US 50 corridor improvements from MO 87 to west of Tipton

* Another study of US 63 between US 50 and Rolla

* Safety and capacity improvements for the I-44 interchange with MO 72 in Rolla

* Scoping for the US 67 freeway upgrades between US 160 and the Arkansas border

* Scoping for freeway upgrades to US 60 between US 61 and I-55
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #235 on: June 01, 2022, 11:59:09 PM »

A few scoping projects of note:

* Scoping for the Hannibal Expressway (in dark gray)

* Scoping for an interchange for US 65 at MO 86

* Scoping for US 50 corridor improvements from MO 87 to west of Tipton

* Another study of US 63 between US 50 and Rolla

* Safety and capacity improvements for the I-44 interchange with MO 72 in Rolla

* Scoping for the US 67 freeway upgrades between US 160 and the Arkansas border

* Scoping for freeway upgrades to US 60 between US 61 and I-55

Dumb question, but I think I can guess it is something along the lines of planning/prelim design? Or even early planning studies?

That said, US 60/Future I-57 between I-55 and US 61 isn’t very long, just under 3 miles. Only have to eliminate some driveway access, and build a southern Frontage Rd to serve the one private residence that has its driveway presently on US 60, and also the cell tower. The other businesses and cross streets already have alternate access to the road network other than via US 60

The US 61/62 already is a Grade-Separated Diamond with US 60/Future I-57

That said, Scoping for south of US 160 for US 67/Future I-57 to Arkansas doesn’t make sense. That is already all studied and designed, up to very near the border, which will require cooperation with ArDOT. It is merely awaiting funding, I thought?
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Re: Missouri
« Reply #236 on: June 02, 2022, 10:11:36 PM »

Dumb question, but I think I can guess it is something along the lines of planning/prelim design? Or even early planning studies?

Based on https://epg.modot.org/index.php/104.2_Project_Scoping, I would say a combination of both.


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