New York

[empirestate]

Time for a thread split, perhaps, for the Scajaquada discussion?


iPhone

[cl94]

Time for a thread split, perhaps, for the Scajaquada discussion?


iPhone

Agree completely. Definitely deserves its own thread.

[Buffaboy]

Time for a thread split, perhaps, for the Scajaquada discussion?


iPhone

Same here, this issue is only going to grow bigger and get uglier IMO.

[Zeffy]

Time for a thread split, perhaps, for the Scajaquada discussion?


iPhone

Done! Discussion split to https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15925.0 . Please continue discussion on the Scajaquada Expressway in that thread. (And please ignore the spelling errors on the title in most of the split posts, I typed it wrong when splitting  )

[Buffaboy]

Housekeeping note, Google Maps now has updated imagery of the Utica area. I was surprised as I was rolling over it when I saw the new arterial bridges. The area is looking good and decrepit at the same time.

[Dougtone]

How the street names of Albany, NY came to be...

http://m.timesunion.com/tuplus-local/article/Uncovering-backstory-of-Albany-s-800-street-names-6378756.php?cmpid=fb

[Rothman]

How the street names of Albany, NY came to be...

http://m.timesunion.com/tuplus-local/article/Uncovering-backstory-of-Albany-s-800-street-names-6378756.php?cmpid=fb

Pfft.  Birds.

[cpzilliacus]

N.Y. Times editorial: Limiting Uber Won't End Congestion

Anybody who spends time in a car or bus in Manhattan knows that traffic congestion isn't getting better and, indeed, may be getting worse. The average daytime speed of cars in Manhattan's business districts has fallen to just under 8 miles per hour this year, from about 9.15 miles per hour in 2009.

City officials say that car services like Uber and Lyft are partly to blame. So Mayor Bill de Blasio is proposing to cap their growth, at least temporarily. It's a bad idea. There are smarter ways to reduce congestion.

The New York City Council could soon take up Mr. de Blasio's solution, which is to cap the number of cars that companies like Uber can add for up to a year while the city studies the issue. Uber is pushing back forcefully, accusing the mayor of catering to the entrenched taxi interests that supported his campaign for mayor. The company's smaller competitors like Lyft are worried the proposal would simply entrench Uber's dominance.

[machias]

Oneida County Route 34 / Marcy-SUNYIT Parkway has apparently been renamed Marcy-SUNY Parkway. Crews have been covering up the "IT" on signs all along the route with tape that matches the green background of the sign really well.

The guide panels for the interchange with NY Route 49 have not been updated yet. I'm curious to see if the new overhead signs going up in the area will include the "IT" or not, requiring modification after installation.

[Buffaboy]

Oneida County Route 34 / Marcy-SUNYIT Parkway has apparently been renamed Marcy-SUNY Parkway. Crews have been covering up the "IT" on signs all along the route with tape that matches the green background of the sign really well.

The guide panels for the interchange with NY Route 49 have not been updated yet. I'm curious to see if the new overhead signs going up in the area will include the "IT" or not, requiring modification after installation.

Why not Poly? Too long I guess.

[cl94]

Region 5 is changing reference markers again. NY 263 got new reference markers this week. Formerly, the section that bypassed UB was marked as the mileage plus 10, with RMs containing the mileage via the original aligment picking up again at North Forest Road. Mileage was redone for the entire section north of Flint Road, with all RMs north of there showing actual mileage via the current alignment. As we all know, reference markers are never supposed to change, even if a new alignment is opened or the route number changes.

[Roadgeek Adam]

Region 5 is changing reference markers again. NY 263 got new reference markers this week. Formerly, the section that bypassed UB was marked as the mileage plus 10, with RMs containing the mileage via the original aligment picking up again at North Forest Road. Mileage was redone for the entire section north of Flint Road, with all RMs north of there showing actual mileage via the current alignment. As we all know, reference markers are never supposed to change, even if a new alignment is opened or the route number changes.

Well, at least this is still there for pre-re-alignment NY 263:

[Dougtone]

The new I-81 southbound bridge as part of the Prospect Mountain Interchange reconstruction project in Binghamton is now open. This is part of the NY 17 (future I-86) construction.

Related press release: https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-opening-i-81-southbound-bridge-over-chenango-river

SCH-I545

[D-Dey65]

Region 5 is changing reference markers again. NY 263 got new reference markers this week. Formerly, the section that bypassed UB was marked as the mileage plus 10, with RMs containing the mileage via the original aligment picking up again at North Forest Road. Mileage was redone for the entire section north of Flint Road, with all RMs north of there showing actual mileage via the current alignment. As we all know, reference markers are never supposed to change, even if a new alignment is opened or the route number changes.

Well, at least this is still there for pre-re-alignment NY 263:

First question; What's that sign underneath the "Do Not Enter" sign there? And another OT one; Did NYSDOT get rid of the westernmost gas station along the Belt Parkway? Because I was looking for that and with or without the misdirection of Google Maps, I couldn't find it.

[cl94]

SERVICE ROAD ONLY
NO EXIT

Lot of old and weird stuff in that area.

[Rothman]

The new I-81 southbound bridge as part of the Prospect Mountain Interchange reconstruction project in Binghamton is now open. This is part of the NY 17 (future I-86) construction.

Related press release: https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-opening-i-81-southbound-bridge-over-chenango-river

SCH-I545

We'll see what happens with Phase 2 (the next project they mention).  Glad to see that they got the cost right.

[D-Dey65]

SERVICE ROAD ONLY
NO EXIT

Lot of old and weird stuff in that area.

Yes, I do notice that about Upstate New York.

[Bumppoman]

Lots of signs going up in the Binghamton area for I-86, not greened out either.  All of the new BGS assemblies so far are in the southbound/eastbound direction, and indicate I-81 south, I-86 east, and NY-17 east, in that order.  Additionally, new directional signs were mounted this week at the intersection of US-11 and Prospect St., and along the length of Prospect St., indicating the way toward the soon-to-be-opened new exit 72 onramp to I-86 west and NY-17 west.

This leads me to believe that once the new ramp from I-81 south to NY-17 west is opened, they might unveil the signs in Tioga County I reported on previously (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1487.msg2026362#msg2026362) and I-86 will extend from Erie to Windsor, NY.

[vdeane]

I was theorizing that as well.  There was a small project to work on the acceleration/deceleration lanes in Tioga County; other than that, I can't think of anything that was needed between Chemung and Kamikaze Curve.

[Duke87]

Given the multitude of 86 shields in Sullivan and Orange counties that have been present uncovered for years, I wouldn't be surprised if whatever is going up in Binghamton is just following the same pattern. NYSDOT has gotten sick of waiting for AASHTO and is just putting up signs when they feel like it.

[Rothman]

I was theorizing that as well.  There was a small project to work on the acceleration/deceleration lanes in Tioga County; other than that, I can't think of anything that was needed between Chemung and Kamikaze Curve.

My former boss was part of the overall NY 17/I-86 conversion project when it was being semi-funded through centralized means (and then gradually, NYSDOT realized that it wasn't going to happen and sent funds elsewhere for the most part outside a few key projects of which Elmira to Chemung was one and Prospect Mountain was another).  He had a map of all the projects that needed to be done along it for the conversion.

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I didn't copy it before he transferred units.   

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I'm surprised designation is coming before Phase II of Prospect Mountain.  Phase I actually was to leave the site a little less safe than it was to begin with -- just to set up Phase II to do the other big lift of the project and achieve the expected benefits (and also why Phase II is starting so soon after Phase I).  So, that's why I'm scratching my head over why designation now rather than later.

[froggie]

NYSDOT has gotten sick of waiting for AASHTO and is just putting up signs when they feel like it.

It's not AASHTO...it's FHWA.  And FHWA could easily smack NYSDOT back if they're signing an Interstate route without authorization.

[Rothman]

NYSDOT has gotten sick of waiting for AASHTO and is just putting up signs when they feel like it.

It's not AASHTO...it's FHWA.  And FHWA could easily smack NYSDOT back if they're signing an Interstate route without authorization.

There's no way NYSDOT is putting up I-86 signs without authorization from FHWA.

[cl94]

The shields on the Quickway were covered when installed, but the covers fell off of some. Everything will probably be covered. Shields have been in place in several (undesignated) areas east of Waverly for years.

[Dougtone]

Here's a press release about the NY 347 reconstruction on Long Island.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-56-million-improvements-along-route-347-long-island

I actually grew up down the street from NY 347 during the 1980s and 1990s. There was discussion on how to reconstruct the highway even back then.