New York

[steviep24]

The text only BGSes on NY 252 at the NY 15 interchange in Rochester are being replaced. Sad to see the old signs go.

[route17fan]

The text only BGSes on NY 252 at the NY 15 interchange in Rochester are being replaced. Sad to see the old signs go.

I too am saddened to see that whole generation of signage quickly disappear.

[Stephane Dumas]

I don't know where to post that article, it almost go into fictionnal highways territory. Some folks dream of a super-bridge from NJ who span the Hudson river and Manhattan.
http://tollroadsnews.com/news/daily-news-brief-may-24-2016#1
http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/05/could_this_futuristic_bridge_across_the_hudson_solve_njs_transit_woes.html

[cl94]

I don't know where to post that article, it almost go into fictionnal highways territory. Some folks dream of a super-bridge from NJ who span the Hudson river and Manhattan.
http://tollroadsnews.com/news/daily-news-brief-may-24-2016#1
http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/05/could_this_futuristic_bridge_across_the_hudson_solve_njs_transit_woes.html

It's a real proposal that has been taken up by a news agency, so this is the spot for it. Granted, I don't see this ever happening, especially with the massive opposition that existed for the Trans-Manhattan Expressway.

[kkt]

I don't know where to post that article, it almost go into fictionnal highways territory. Some folks dream of a super-bridge from NJ who span the Hudson river and Manhattan.
http://tollroadsnews.com/news/daily-news-brief-may-24-2016#1
http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/05/could_this_futuristic_bridge_across_the_hudson_solve_njs_transit_woes.html

Just because this wild proposal originated from outside this forum doesn't mean discussion belongs in the factual portions of the board, in my opinion.

No one's going to go for an elevated rail across Manhattan.  They took all the Els down for a reason.  Even if they could get approvals, which they couldn't, where would the terminal go for all the passengers to get down again and transfer to their subways or buses?

[Alps]

I don't know where to post that article, it almost go into fictionnal highways territory. Some folks dream of a super-bridge from NJ who span the Hudson river and Manhattan.
http://tollroadsnews.com/news/daily-news-brief-may-24-2016#1
http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/05/could_this_futuristic_bridge_across_the_hudson_solve_njs_transit_woes.html

Just because this wild proposal originated from outside this forum doesn't mean discussion belongs in the factual portions of the board, in my opinion.

No one's going to go for an elevated rail across Manhattan.  They took all the Els down for a reason.  Even if they could get approvals, which they couldn't, where would the terminal go for all the passengers to get down again and transfer to their subways or buses?

What's needed is CAR access from NJ to Long Island. Truck volume is relatively low, and transit volume is also low.

[Duke87]

What's needed is CAR access from NJ to Long Island. Truck volume is relatively low, and transit volume is also low.

It's anecdotal, but my experience with what the ramp from the Clearview southbound to the LIE eastbound looks like on a typical weekday midday would suggest that truck volume to Long Island is not all that low.

That said, the wild proposal claims trucks would be banned from using the bridge to minimize noise and air quality issues. Seems a little fig leafish to me compared to the overall scope of the project but there you go.


Meanwhile, there is an actual real proposal for a cross-harbor freight rail tunnel, which would be seriously helpful because it would allow trucks to be taken off the road not only going to Long Island but also to the city, Westchester, and Connecticut - all markets which have opportunities to receive more cargo by rail if there were a way for it to cross the Hudson south of Castleton.

[CobaltYoshi27]

What's needed is another way to get off and on Long Island. Every way almost always backs up.

[cl94]

The Cross-Harbor Tunnel, while expensive, would be an excellent solution- IF intermodal facilities are built in Nassau and/or Suffolk. That would provide an actual replacement for the trucks that must go through the City. I know how backed up that ramp from the Clearview gets, hence why I always take the Cross Island to the Grand Central/Northern State when going out that way. Of course, true intermodal facilities that are able to accept piggyback operation must be built actually on the Island, with the current plan putting a facility in Maspeth.

[CobaltYoshi27]

The Cross-Harbor Tunnel, while expensive, would be an excellent solution- IF intermodal facilities are built in Nassau and/or Suffolk. That would provide an actual replacement for the trucks that must go through the City. I know how backed up that ramp from the Clearview gets, hence why I always take the Cross Island to the Grand Central/Northern State when going out that way. Of course, true intermodal facilities that are able to accept piggyback operation must be built actually on the Island, with the current plan putting a facility in Maspeth.

Funny how I find the Clearview to be less backed up than the Cross Island. A direct connection between the 2 heading east/south would be nice.

[Buffaboy]

Looks kinda like the Mid-MEX.

[goldfishcrackers4]

It looks like Reg 2 removed that overhead sign project from the list. I couldn't find it, at least.  Perhaps new signs should be part of a larger project to renumber 49 to I790?

[froggie]

What's needed is CAR access from NJ to Long Island. Truck volume is relatively low, and transit volume is also low.

I would hazard a bet that transit volume wouldn't be so low if there were through-running services besides Amtrak at Penn Station.  Would also do a lot to address the capacity problems at Penn Station.

Regarding the bridge proposal, it should be noted that it would not only ban trucks (as Duke mentioned), but would also ban passenger vehicles as well.  It's basically proposed as an alternative to the Gateway Tunnel project, so the primary focus is on rail, but it would also include decks for buses and for bike/ped.

[cl94]

It looks like Reg 2 removed that overhead sign project from the list. I couldn't find it, at least.  Perhaps new signs should be part of a larger project to renumber 49 to I790?

From what I've heard, FHWA won't approve a move unless the grade crossing gets eliminated and it can go all the way to downtown Rome.

[machias]

It looks like Reg 2 removed that overhead sign project from the list. I couldn't find it, at least.  Perhaps new signs should be part of a larger project to renumber 49 to I790?

From what I've heard, FHWA won't approve a move unless the grade crossing gets eliminated and it can go all the way to downtown Rome.

That's only to renumber the roadway to Interstate 790. NY Route 790 is reserved for 49 and 365 between Thruway exits 31 and 33. The only thing missing on that change is funding.

[machias]

It looks like Reg 2 removed that overhead sign project from the list. I couldn't find it, at least.  Perhaps new signs should be part of a larger project to renumber 49 to I790?

What overhead sign project? There's one currently scheduled for letting later this year. Did a project appear on a list somewhere recently?

[goldfishcrackers4]

It looks like Reg 2 removed that overhead sign project from the list. I couldn't find it, at least.  Perhaps new signs should be part of a larger project to renumber 49 to I790?

What overhead sign project? There's one currently scheduled for letting later this year. Did a project appear on a list somewhere recently?

My mistake. When I put in Region 2 for projects, and didn't specify Oneida County, the project was there. Probably user error. 

[D-Dey65]

New topic, this time about a bridge over the Hudson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fixed_crossings_of_the_Hudson_River

What's the name of the bridge north of the Sandy Hill Bridge between South Glens Falls and Hudson Falls?

While we're at it, there are others that need names.

[cl94]

It doesn't have a name, nor does the unlisted private bridge at the quarry or the I-87 bridge. If they do have names, they certainly aren't posted anywhere, nor are they public.

[mariethefoxy]

What's needed is another way to get off and on Long Island. Every way almost always backs up.

oh gods yes!

[Roadgeek Adam]

It's not going to ever happen, short of democracy being thrown out of the country in favor of an absolutist monarchy.

[SidS1045]

...especially with the massive opposition that existed for the Trans-Manhattan Expressway.

Not enough to kill it, apparently, since it already exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Manhattan_Expressway

[cl94]

...especially with the massive opposition that existed for the Trans-Manhattan Expressway.

Not enough to kill it, apparently, since it already exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Manhattan_Expressway

Yeah, I mixed my names up. I forgot what they were going to call I-495 across 34th Street.

[CobaltYoshi27]

...especially with the massive opposition that existed for the Trans-Manhattan Expressway.

Not enough to kill it, apparently, since it already exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Manhattan_Expressway

Yeah, I mixed my names up. I forgot what they were going to call I-495 across 34th Street.

You're thinking of the Mid-Manhattan Expressway.

[CobaltYoshi27]

...especially with the massive opposition that existed for the Trans-Manhattan Expressway.

Not enough to kill it, apparently, since it already exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Manhattan_Expressway

Yeah, I mixed my names up. I forgot what they were going to call I-495 across 34th Street.

You're thinking of the Mid-Manhattan Expressway.