New York

[vdeane]

On a trip to the Finger Lakes this weekend, I saw a set of the "New York State Experience" signs on the Thruway between Exits 39 and 40...and another set between 41 and 42. Both directions.

...really?

That's definitely new.  They weren't there Labor Day.  I can see the method to the madness on the ones entering/exiting a metro area... but these new ones make no sense at all!  I suspect they're just doing it to ruin my Thruway experience.

[kalvado]

On a trip to the Finger Lakes this weekend, I saw a set of the "New York State Experience" signs on the Thruway between Exits 39 and 40...and another set between 41 and 42. Both directions.

...really?

That's definitely new.  They weren't there Labor Day.  I can see the method to the madness on the ones entering/exiting a metro area... but these new ones make no sense at all!  I suspect they're just doing it to ruin my Thruway experience.

41-42 are exits to Finger lakes areas, and Geneva is sort of a resort town. If that is the case, something should come up near exit 21 as well.

[empirestate]

Side note, that's the first I've ever heard of a "SUNY Sullivan."

I believe that's how they're referring to the community colleges now.


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Some of them. Adirondack Community College became "SUNY Adirondack", for example. I think the ones being referred to as "SUNY X" have dorms, while the "community colleges" do not.

SUNY Orange has no dorms.

Then I have no clue. Adirondack and Sullivan changed their names when they got dorms.

I gave up a long time ago and just call them their CC name. I'm sure they had some rhyme or reason for the changes, but it's not like they are 4-year schools.

Glancing at the list on SUNY's web site, it doesn't look as though they officially refer to any of them in this way (even the 4-year colleges that have traditionally been known as "SUNY Brockport", for example). So perhaps this is just some convention NYSDOT has adopted for its signing practices, though possibly at the request of SUNY to emphasize the schools' affiliation with the state university.


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[cl94]

Side note, that's the first I've ever heard of a "SUNY Sullivan."

I believe that's how they're referring to the community colleges now.


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Some of them. Adirondack Community College became "SUNY Adirondack", for example. I think the ones being referred to as "SUNY X" have dorms, while the "community colleges" do not.

SUNY Orange has no dorms.

Then I have no clue. Adirondack and Sullivan changed their names when they got dorms.

I gave up a long time ago and just call them their CC name. I'm sure they had some rhyme or reason for the changes, but it's not like they are 4-year schools.

Glancing at the list on SUNY's web site, it doesn't look as though they officially refer to any of them in this way (even the 4-year colleges that have traditionally been known as "SUNY Brockport", for example). So perhaps this is just some convention NYSDOT has adopted for its signing practices, though possibly at the request of SUNY to emphasize the schools' affiliation with the state university.


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Adirondack, Canton, Sullivan and Ulster definitely do.

[Roadgeek Adam]

http://www.sunyorange.edu/

The SUNY Orange website gives that away.

[Bumppoman]

That I-88 exit 12 sign is a direct replacement of the ugly one that's been there for about 15 years.  Hopefully they take your suggestion seriously, because some bad signs have been going up lately in Region 9.  They just posted some horrendous new ones on US-11 in Binghamton at NY-7, including a lovely NY-11 shield.

[machias]

That I-88 exit 12 sign is a direct replacement of the ugly one that's been there for about 15 years.  Hopefully they take your suggestion seriously, because some bad signs have been going up lately in Region 9.  They just posted some horrendous new ones on US-11 in Binghamton at NY-7, including a lovely NY-11 shield.

Heard back from R9 and they have already made the corrections I suggested. Apparently all plans get run by Traffic and Safety now for accuracy and adherence to the Federal MUTCD. This is the first time I've heard about that extra layer of checking.

[Roadgeek Adam]

That I-88 exit 12 sign is a direct replacement of the ugly one that's been there for about 15 years.  Hopefully they take your suggestion seriously, because some bad signs have been going up lately in Region 9.  They just posted some horrendous new ones on US-11 in Binghamton at NY-7, including a lovely NY-11 shield.

Heard back from R9 and they have already made the corrections I suggested. Apparently all plans get run by Traffic and Safety now for accuracy and adherence to the Federal MUTCD. This is the first time I've heard about that extra layer of checking.

They get the Callicoon one as well?

[machias]

That I-88 exit 12 sign is a direct replacement of the ugly one that's been there for about 15 years.  Hopefully they take your suggestion seriously, because some bad signs have been going up lately in Region 9.  They just posted some horrendous new ones on US-11 in Binghamton at NY-7, including a lovely NY-11 shield.

Heard back from R9 and they have already made the corrections I suggested. Apparently all plans get run by Traffic and Safety now for accuracy and adherence to the Federal MUTCD. This is the first time I've heard about that extra layer of checking.

They get the Callicoon one as well?

I mentioned the Callicoon error to them in a separate email.  I didn't pick up on that until it was mentioned here.

[cl94]

Region 8 is in the middle of installing exit numbers for the Taconic in Westchester. Gore signs are up and covered, some tabs have been installed NB. As noted when the plans came out, numbers are mile-based.

[Roadgeek Adam]

Region 8 is in the middle of installing exit numbers for the Taconic in Westchester. Gore signs are up and covered, some tabs have been installed NB. As noted when the plans came out, numbers are mile-based.

I am waiting every day for the contract plans for the second set because they are due.

[mariethefoxy]

I hope Region 8 abandons that awful practice of putting the street names in those little boxes, it makes it harder to read.

[cl94]

I hope Region 8 abandons that awful practice of putting the street names in those little boxes, it makes it harder to read.

Region 8 hasn't posted signs with boxes in years, thankfully.

[machias]

I hope Region 8 abandons that awful practice of putting the street names in those little boxes, it makes it harder to read.

Regions 2 and 8 loved those boxes. Drive around Utica and you'll see illegible road names everywhere. Region 3 did it for a little while but I think Region 7 was the first one to include a box around a street name back in the late 1980s. I-81 Exit 52 had ISLAND RD in a box, all in button copy, back in the day. 

[SignBridge]

Happily Region-10 on Long Island never used that practice and has been posting street names in mixed-case lettering (along with place names) going all the way back to the early 1960's on the Long Island Expwy.

[empirestate]

Adirondack, Canton, Sullivan and Ulster definitely do.

Do what, have dorms?



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[cl94]

Adirondack, Canton, Sullivan and Ulster definitely do.

Do what, have dorms?



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No, refer to themselves as SUNY X

SM-G920V

[mariethefoxy]

Happily Region-10 on Long Island never used that practice and has been posting street names in mixed-case lettering (along with place names) going all the way back to the early 1960's on the Long Island Expwy.

R10 has their own quirks, such as the wierd way they numbered the parkway exits, and the lack of mile markers.

[empirestate]

Adirondack, Canton, Sullivan and Ulster definitely do.

Do what, have dorms?



iPhone

No, refer to themselves as SUNY X

SM-G920V

Oh, OK. I was saying that SUNY itself doesn't refer to them as such in its list of campuses. I didn't go so far as to check individual schools' web sites. (And Canton is not a community college anyway, right?)

[cl94]

Adirondack, Canton, Sullivan and Ulster definitely do.

Do what, have dorms?



iPhone

No, refer to themselves as SUNY X

SM-G920V

Oh, OK. I was saying that SUNY itself doesn't refer to them as such in its list of campuses. I didn't go so far as to check individual schools' web sites. (And Canton is not a community college anyway, right?)

It is mainly a community college. They recently added some bachelor's programs in topics typically covered only by associate's degrees.

[cl94]

Happily Region-10 on Long Island never used that practice and has been posting street names in mixed-case lettering (along with place names) going all the way back to the early 1960's on the Long Island Expwy.

R10 has their own quirks, such as the wierd way they numbered the parkway exits, and the lack of mile markers.

Except on the eastern parts of the LIE and Sunrise Highway, exits are spaced closely enough that you don't really need the reference points for drivers.

Exit numbering, while certainly weird, is a really good way to ID the road given how many N/S parkways there are in Nassau and western Suffolk.

[nyratk1]

Side note, that's the first I've ever heard of a "SUNY Sullivan."

I believe that's how they're referring to the community colleges now.


iPhone

Some of them. Adirondack Community College became "SUNY Adirondack", for example. I think the ones being referred to as "SUNY X" have dorms, while the "community colleges" do not.

SUNY Orange has no dorms.

Then I have no clue. Adirondack and Sullivan changed their names when they got dorms.

Suffolk CCC seems to remain that except for their website address and social media tags (SUNY Suffolk). No dorms on any of their three campuses and probably never gonna happen. Odd move since it seems in recent years, the SUNY university centers de-emphasized the SUNY (Stony Brook and Buffalo most drastic)

[dgolub]

Happily Region-10 on Long Island never used that practice and has been posting street names in mixed-case lettering (along with place names) going all the way back to the early 1960's on the Long Island Expwy.

Unless it's a state route, in which case they don't post the street name at all.  You don't want to know how many Long Islanders don't know that Jericho Turnpike is NY 25 and Sunrise Highway is NY 27.

[empirestate]

Suffolk CCC seems to remain that except for their website address and social media tags (SUNY Suffolk). No dorms on any of their three campuses and probably never gonna happen.

Interesting, so it seems this might be something SUNY is doing after all (doubtful that the individual schools are coming up with it all independently of each other).

Odd move since it seems in recent years, the SUNY university centers de-emphasized the SUNY (Stony Brook and Buffalo most drastic)

Yes, they've probably been shifting the branding to denote those more as full-fledged universities rather than "lowly" state schools.

[route17fan]

I noticed new plans online for a signing project in NYSDOT Region 9. It's project D263275.  I've sent an email to R9 about the small errors in the first two shown below.  The third is going to be quite the post-interchange destination mileage sign!

In addition, Exit 92 has "Cook Falls" instead of "Cooks Falls" - AIEEE!! There's a bunch o' errors in this batch.