New York

[cl94]

Any news on the Rooftop Highway?

When pigs fly.

[KEVIN_224]

Any progress report on how far down I-84 they've gotten with this project? I've only heard about the 5 easternmost exits so far.

[webny99]

Any news on the Rooftop Highway?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?board=20.0

[crispy93]

Any progress report on how far down I-84 they've gotten with this project? I've only heard about the 5 easternmost exits so far.

I drove the eastern-most leg of I-84 on Saturday; the 684/22 interchange remains the only renumbered interchange.

[PHLBOS]

Any progress report on how far down I-84 they've gotten with this project? I've only heard about the 5 easternmost exits so far.

I drove the eastern-most leg of I-84 on Saturday; the 684/22 interchange remains the only renumbered interchange.

As of this past Monday, at the latest, the partial interchange (former-Exit 21) between I-684 and the CT State Line was renumbered to Exit 69.

[D-Dey65]

One thing I noticed about the new mileage-based exit signs in New York is that there are no Old Exit Number tabs.

[astralentity]

One thing I noticed about the new mileage-based exit signs in New York is that there are no Old Exit Number tabs.

Maybe an add after the fact?

[Alps]

One thing I noticed about the new mileage-based exit signs in New York is that there are no Old Exit Number tabs.

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

[astralentity]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

[webny99]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

[ipeters61]

One thing I noticed about the new mileage-based exit signs in New York is that there are no Old Exit Number tabs.

Maybe an add after the fact?

I'm pretty sure I vaguely remember them being at the I-84/I-684 interchange, below the sign.

One thing I noticed about the new mileage-based exit signs in New York is that there are no Old Exit Number tabs.

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

[astralentity]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

Good point

[PHLBOS]

One thing I noticed about the new mileage-based exit signs in New York is that there are no Old Exit Number tabs.

Actually, separate OLD EXIT XX panels are placed below the new main panels on the ground-mounted signs.  I'm not sure whether similar panels were/will be placed near the elevated signs.  The only one I saw in my recent travels was the cantilevered I-684 BGS just prior to the exit ramp from westbound I-84.

[jemacedo9]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

US 15 has numbers, those were renumbered, and there are "FORMERLY EXIT XX" signs placed there. Streetview still shows them.

[webny99]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

US 15 has numbers, those were renumbered, and there are "FORMERLY EXIT XX" signs placed there. Streetview still shows them.

It would seem that you are referring to NY. However, we were talking about PA, which did not have numbers on US 15 prior to getting the I-99 numbers in the last couple years.

[machias]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

US 15 has numbers, those were renumbered, and there are "FORMERLY EXIT XX" signs placed there. Streetview still shows them.

I recently had a discussion with a fellow road geek about this, "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  or "OLD EXIT XX" , as with the I-84 project NYSDOT has now used both. The first time I saw "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  in New York was on NY 17 in the Elmira area. I know Massachusetts used "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  along MA 128 back in the 80s.  Some states use one, some states use the other, are there any other states that use both FORMERLY and OLD?

[Alps]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

US 15 has numbers, those were renumbered, and there are "FORMERLY EXIT XX" signs placed there. Streetview still shows them.

I recently had a discussion with a fellow road geek about this, "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  or "OLD EXIT XX" , as with the I-84 project NYSDOT has now used both. The first time I saw "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  in New York was on NY 17 in the Elmira area. I know Massachusetts used "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  along MA 128 back in the 80s.  Some states use one, some states use the other, are there any other states that use both FORMERLY and OLD?

Someone on this forum used FORMERLY but the MUTCD standard is OLD. Shorter and gets the point across.

[jemacedo9]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

US 15 has numbers, those were renumbered, and there are "FORMERLY EXIT XX" signs placed there. Streetview still shows them.

It would seem that you are referring to NY. However, we were talking about PA, which did not have numbers on US 15 prior to getting the I-99 numbers in the last couple years.

Yes, I was referring to NY's portion of US 15.

[Ben114]

Yeah this isn't Pennsylvania where you have 20 year old "new exit! wow!" signs.

They never did when they had US 15 renumbered to match I-99's mileage.

Those didn't involve changing numbers, as they were unnumbered previously.

US 15 has numbers, those were renumbered, and there are "FORMERLY EXIT XX" signs placed there. Streetview still shows them.

I recently had a discussion with a fellow road geek about this, "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  or "OLD EXIT XX" , as with the I-84 project NYSDOT has now used both. The first time I saw "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  in New York was on NY 17 in the Elmira area. I know Massachusetts used "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  along MA 128 back in the 80s.  Some states use one, some states use the other, are there any other states that use both FORMERLY and OLD?

I believe MA 25 uses FORMERLY, but RI uses OLD

[PHLBOS]

I recently had a discussion with a fellow road geek about this, "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  or "OLD EXIT XX" , as with the I-84 project NYSDOT has now used both. The first time I saw "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  in New York was on NY 17 in the Elmira area. I know Massachusetts used "FORMERLY EXIT XX"  along MA 128 back in the 80s.  Some states use one, some states use the other, are there any other states that use both FORMERLY and OLD?

I believe MA 25 uses FORMERLY, but RI uses OLD

Massachusetts has always used FORMERLY when interchange numbers were revised in the past. 

The only exceptions to such was when a direction-cardinal suffix changed to A-B but not the number itself.  No formerly signs were posted when the MA 128/1A or the MA 128/114 interchanges changed from Exits 20N-S and 25E-W to 20A-B and 25A-B respectively.

[astralentity]

Google Maps hasn't updated the new I-84 numbers where the signs have been replaced.  On the same token, they haven't even put the exit numbers in for the Taconic.

OSM has a good rule about not putting in the new numbers until the whole road has been converted, however they had the Taconic done almost immediately.

[vdeane]

OSM has a good rule about not putting in the new numbers until the whole road has been converted, however they had the Taconic done almost immediately.

In that case, there were no old numbers - the exits were unnumbered prior to getting mile-based exit numbers, so it's not really a "conversion".

[Michael]

Regarding Google Maps updates, I have a friend in NC who moved into a new house in an expansion of an existing development in the beginning of January.  Her street didn't show up until a couple months ago, and it wasn't labeled until a couple weeks ago.



I was using the TDV a few nights ago, and noticed they now have historic PDFs of traffic data.  When you click "View Reports", a pane now shows up on the left with options for the available years and data types.  Some links are broken, so I'm assuming they're in the process of uploading the reports.

As an aside, I find a bit odd that the data for the I-81 viaduct doesn't even show up on the map.

[vdeane]

That happens when there's no recent report for a station.  You can click on the area where the line would be and it will show up, with a report from 2001.  I'm guessing it went a long time without being counted - something that tends to happen with the interstates, especially given that it's a viaduct.

[kalvado]

Albany published overview of red light camera program.
There is some (quite unimpressive) reduction of accidents, zero revenue for the city (aka drivers are much better than city though) and about $20k in fines collected per eliminated accident - more than the cost of non-injury crash.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Albany-s-red-light-camera-venture-brings-mixed-13813902.php