New York

[D-Dey65]

I've been doing a little research on Jones Beach and Tobay Beach, since I took pictures of both on my November 2021 road trip, and to my surprise Bay Parkway was originally split between the Meadowbrook-Ocean Parkway termini. The segment at the West End Beach was originally a RIRO configuration, and the segment east of that point had a south to west flyunder ramp beneath the west-to-north lane of Ocean-Meadowbrook with U-Turns on both sides.
https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=15&lat=40.61107&lon=-73.42985

This should be added to the Wikipedia article.

[vdeane]

I've been doing a little research on Jones Beach and Tobay Beach, since I took pictures of both on my November 2021 road trip, and to my surprise Bay Parkway was originally split between the Meadowbrook-Ocean Parkway termini. The segment at the West End Beach was originally a RIRO configuration, and the segment east of that point had a south to west flyunder ramp beneath the west-to-north lane of Ocean-Meadowbrook with U-Turns on both sides.
https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=15&lat=40.61107&lon=-73.42985

This should be added to the Wikipedia article.

Interesting.  I guess that explains why the state reference route for the Bay Parkway only goes between the Meandowbrook and Wantagh without a stub to the fee booths like the other parkways have; the remainder is inventoried like a local road extending it.

[mariethefoxy]

Another Long Island observation. On both the Wantagh and Northern State Parkways I have noticed the little white signs telling you the clearance height are gone, replaced by a larger Low Clearance warning sign a little bit before the underpass, they have that high visibility shade of yellow, not the yellow green one that brighter yellow thats hard to explain.

[SignBridge]

NYS DOT may be trying to call attention to the bridge heights. The last couple of years there is an increasing problem of large trucks illegally getting on the parkways and ripping off their roofs trying to go under the bridges. It's become way too common. It seems like every day the troopers are escorting big trucks off the parkways and presumably ticketing the drivers.

[cl94]

NYS DOT may be trying to call attention to the bridge heights. The last couple of years there is an increasing problem of large trucks illegally getting on the parkways and ripping off their roofs trying to go under the bridges. It's become way too common. It seems like every day the troopers are escorting big trucks off the parkways and presumably ticketing the drivers.

Bridge strikes have been a growing issue nationwide. Blame drivers blindly following GPS and phone directions that do not include truck restrictions.

Upstate, there are at least 2 bridges notorious for frequent strikes (one each near Albany and Syracuse), and the Albany-area one has received far more signs in recent months.

[SignBridge]

It's a more extreme problem on the Long Island Parkways where virtually all of the bridges are way too low for big trucks. Again, what used to be weekly occurrences are now daily events. And yes, truckers using GPS's seems to be a major part of the problem along with their total disregard of posted signs at parkway entrances. They prohibit commercial vehicles and warn of low bridge heights but the truckers just don't see them.

I sometimes wonder if they don't understand the term no commercial vehicles on the signs. Maybe they should just say NO TRUCKS for more basic understanding. Problem is the signs are directed at any and all vehicles being used for commercial purposes, including vans and pick-up's with business names and graphics on them.

[Rothman]

NYS DOT may be trying to call attention to the bridge heights. The last couple of years there is an increasing problem of large trucks illegally getting on the parkways and ripping off their roofs trying to go under the bridges. It's become way too common. It seems like every day the troopers are escorting big trucks off the parkways and presumably ticketing the drivers.

Bridge strikes have been a growing issue nationwide. Blame drivers blindly following GPS and phone directions that do not include truck restrictions.

Upstate, there are at least 2 bridges notorious for frequent strikes (one each near Albany and Syracuse), and the Albany-area one has received far more signs in recent months.

A project is in the works to addess Onondaga Lake Parkway.  Detailed design due this FFY.

[D-Dey65]

Has anybody ever heard of a dirt road in Eastern Long Island named Toppings Path? It runs from Suffok CR 51 in Eastport to CR 94 and NY 24 southeast of Exit 71 in Calverton. Back in the 1990's I used to ride and sometimes walk along that path just to see what it was like. Tonight, I did a GSV search of that road, and I realized the south end of the road is completely blocked by scrub brush. I have a neighbor who's kids have dirt bikes and one Bombardier quad with a roll cage, and I was going to tell them that parts of the trail can fit that quad of theirs. I don't think I can do that now.

[interstate73]

Long Island isn't even capable of building sanitary sewer. There seems to be no political interest in accommodating growth or improving infrastructure at all. So I don't care about their highway woes. Cost is a big factor but if there's no push to build anything or stand up to NIMBYs, you will definitely get nothing.

Heaven forbid, but if some civil emergency occurred in the future where an evacuation of Long Island was necessary, and people died because the infrastructure couldn't handle the evacuation, maybe then you would get something.

This is actually the reason a fully built nuclear plant on Long Island was mothballed before ever being turned on - they didn't think they'd be able to evacuate the island safely in the event of disaster (thankfully they used the site for two wind turbines that produce 1/35000th of the power instead  )

[roadman65]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

[empirestate]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

Nohow.

[machias]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

It's been that way for many, many decades. It's pretty much reached landmark status. It's not going to be changed. Every time it's been changed, it's been vandalized.

[steviep24]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

It's been that way for many, many decades. It's pretty much reached landmark status. It's not going to be changed. Every time it's been changed, it's been vandalized.

To be honest I'm surprised that still exists. That intersection doesn't really warrant a signal and could be an all way stop instead. I guess they keep it for historical reasons.

Interestingly, normal red on top signals are used in Ireland itself.

[cockroachking]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

It's been that way for many, many decades. It's pretty much reached landmark status. It's not going to be changed. Every time it's been changed, it's been vandalized.

To be honest I'm surprised that still exists. That intersection doesn't really warrant a signal and could be an all way stop instead. I guess they keep it for historical reasons.

Interestingly, normal red on top signals are used in Ireland itself.

IMO 4 way Stops are worse than reversed colors, though I guess for those who are red-green colorblind this could be a serious issue.

[Rothman]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

It's been that way for many, many decades. It's pretty much reached landmark status. It's not going to be changed. Every time it's been changed, it's been vandalized.

To be honest I'm surprised that still exists. That intersection doesn't really warrant a signal and could be an all way stop instead. I guess they keep it for historical reasons.

Interestingly, normal red on top signals are used in Ireland itself.

IMO 4 way Stops are worse than reversed colors, though I guess for those who are red-green colorblind this could be a serious issue.

If they are that colorblind, then they probably have a host of other issues on the road.

I'm red-green colorblind.  No problems here.

I do think that some dumb drivers would assume that the position of the lights would mean stop or go, rather than the color...colorblind or not.

[storm2k]

How does the MUTCD allow for this?
https://goo.gl/maps/C5bHbtgpKQULzFPC8
https://goo.gl/maps/ciJ9ekXVgwnNcviE6

It's been that way for many, many decades. It's pretty much reached landmark status. It's not going to be changed. Every time it's been changed, it's been vandalized.

To be honest I'm surprised that still exists. That intersection doesn't really warrant a signal and could be an all way stop instead. I guess they keep it for historical reasons.

Interestingly, normal red on top signals are used in Ireland itself.

IMO 4 way Stops are worse than reversed colors, though I guess for those who are red-green colorblind this could be a serious issue.

If they are that colorblind, then they probably have a host of other issues on the road.

I'm red-green colorblind.  No problems here.

I do think that some dumb drivers would assume that the position of the lights would mean stop or go, rather than the color...colorblind or not.

Isn't that supposed to be part of it? Like that's why red is always on top (or on the far left for horizontally hung signals) so that if you are color blind you can tell what the signal is telling you to do by its position?

[SignBridge]

Storm2k, I believe you are correct.

[D-Dey65]

I need some transportation engineers here. Back in November I drove the entirety of Jones Beach Island, and despite not being a Town of Oyster Bay resident, I stopped at Tobay Beach. In the center pedestrian path between the parking lot and the Atlantic Ocean, I saw some exposed wire mesh beneath the bridges of Ocean Parkway.





So will this require some concrete patches, or some more extensive reconstruction?

[kalvado]

I need some transportation engineers here. Back in November I drove the entirety of Jones Beach Island, and despite not being a Town of Oyster Bay resident, I stopped at Tobay Beach. In the center pedestrian path between the parking lot and the Atlantic Ocean, I saw some exposed wire mesh beneath the bridges of Ocean Parkway.





So will this require some concrete patches, or some more extensive reconstruction?

I would think that orange spray lines on top and bottom image outline the scale of planned work. Lines are pretty faded - looks like things were planned but put on a back burner for some reason.   

[ixnay]

I would think that orange spray lines on top and bottom image outline the scale of planned work. Lines are pretty faded - looks like things were planned but put on a back burner for some reason.

Pray that back-burning those repairs doesn't end up biting the *** of whoever made the decision.  That rebar looks terrible.

[seicer]

That's fairly routine but is something that should be addressed at some point with patching. It's rebar that's been exposed to the elements - and most notably, a combination of salt and water. Left unpatched, the rebar will continue to degrade and expand - up to several times its size, causing more concrete to spall. This isn't anything to write home about and it looks like it has been identified before, so hopefully, something is in the pipeline for a patch.

[crispy93]

Drove by this this morning, it's kind of interesting. NY 113 in Poughkeepsie. If you turn right off Wilbur Blvd onto 113 west, you get an added lane. No "added lane" signage, but they do get a right-turn green arrow though: https://goo.gl/maps/tFoV5a7jK4wNE84N9

[D-Dey65]

Drove by this this morning, it's kind of interesting. NY 113 in Poughkeepsie. If you turn right off Wilbur Blvd onto 113 west, you get an added lane. No "added lane" signage, but they do get a right-turn green arrow though: https://goo.gl/maps/tFoV5a7jK4wNE84N9

Before I looked at that, I was trying to find the reason for the 5 ton weight limit a mile ahead along Wilbur Boulevard, but I couldn't see it.


Was there a similar failed proposal to the one that used to exist for NY 117 with the Potantico Expressway?

[NoGoodNamesAvailable]

Drove by this this morning, it's kind of interesting. NY 113 in Poughkeepsie. If you turn right off Wilbur Blvd onto 113 west, you get an added lane. No "added lane" signage, but they do get a right-turn green arrow though: https://goo.gl/maps/tFoV5a7jK4wNE84N9

Before I looked at that, I was trying to find the reason for the 5 ton weight limit a mile ahead along Wilbur Boulevard, but I couldn't see it.

It's the city of Poughkeepsie border. I tried to find the weight limit in the city code but I couldn't see it. Either they've hidden it somewhere or just decided to put the signs up illegally. And I doubt there is a "reason" for the limit besides residents complaining about truck traffic.

[cockroachking]

Drove by this this morning, it's kind of interesting. NY 113 in Poughkeepsie. If you turn right off Wilbur Blvd onto 113 west, you get an added lane. No "added lane" signage, but they do get a right-turn green arrow though: https://goo.gl/maps/tFoV5a7jK4wNE84N9

Yeah I really wish they would let drivers turning right know they could proceed without stopping, as inevitably every other person stops, even with the green arrow. It seems to be a plague at this intersection.

Drove by this this morning, it's kind of interesting. NY 113 in Poughkeepsie. If you turn right off Wilbur Blvd onto 113 west, you get an added lane. No "added lane" signage, but they do get a right-turn green arrow though: https://goo.gl/maps/tFoV5a7jK4wNE84N9

Before I looked at that, I was trying to find the reason for the 5 ton weight limit a mile ahead along Wilbur Boulevard, but I couldn't see it.

It's the city of Poughkeepsie border. I tried to find the weight limit in the city code but I couldn't see it. Either they've hidden it somewhere or just decided to put the signs up illegally. And I doubt there is a "reason" for the limit besides residents complaining about truck traffic.

I took a quick look as well, and found nothing. Most of the residential streets in the area have weight limits posted, but I am not sure if there are specific laws in any nearby municipality either.