New York

[ixnay]

The sign doesn't indicate any dining or refreshment facilities. Do they not exist there?

At the time when the GSV car went by in 2022, the service area was being demolished and rebuilt. It has since reopened with full services.

That particular sign wouldn't advertise that anyways; those are on the advance signs further back.

And here it is when Plattekill was in a fairly advanced state of reconstruction.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5770484,-74.0857379,3a,47.3y,18.06h,89.65t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saQt0tidWf2TGpNtLtr4XAw!2e0!5s20220901T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

[Jim]

That reminds me that I made my first stop at the new Plattekill service area last week.  While it still feels small, I was happy to see it's significantly larger than the others among the new ones I've been to so far.  Looks to me like sufficient seating and the bathroom was much more reasonable in size as well.

[kalvado]

That reminds me that I made my first stop at the new Plattekill service area last week.  While it still feels small, I was happy to see it's significantly larger than the others among the new ones I've been to so far.  Looks to me like sufficient seating and the bathroom was much more reasonable in size as well.

Level 3... That's the size of 5 out of 24 service areas.  Another 10 are sized as a quarter of of Plattekill one or smaller

[vdeane]

That reminds me that I made my first stop at the new Plattekill service area last week.  While it still feels small, I was happy to see it's significantly larger than the others among the new ones I've been to so far.  Looks to me like sufficient seating and the bathroom was much more reasonable in size as well.

Level 3... That's the size of 5 out of 24 service areas.  Another 10 are sized as a quarter of of Plattekill one or smaller

The official size classifications are weird.  IMO levels 2A and 2B have more in common with level 3 than they do with level 2.

Incidentally, the map has been updated with new completion dates for most of the service areas.  Based on the dates, I suspect the four being renovated rather than rebuilt are Sloatsburg, Malden, Guilderland, and Pattersonville.  Also, Ontario appears to be getting Sbarro, which would make it the only one with pizza outside of whatever is sitting in the warmer at the convenience store.

Fun fact: If there aren't further delays, next fall Modena will be the last one not reopened under the new model.

[D-Dey65]

That reminds me that I made my first stop at the new Plattekill service area last week.  While it still feels small, I was happy to see it's significantly larger than the others among the new ones I've been to so far.  Looks to me like sufficient seating and the bathroom was much more reasonable in size as well.

I'd like to see more pics of that service area in Wikimedia Commons, along with the Sloatsburg and Ramapo Service Areas. The only reason I don't grab them myself is because I'm stuck in Florida.

[roadman65]

Does NYSDOT maintain US 11 in Syracuse?  I ask because I see on GSV where the US route changes alignment on N. state Street to N. Salina Street there is lacking trailblazing. Ditto SB from N. Salina to N. State.

I see though NY 5 is signed where it changes alignments plus US 11 is signed from NY 5 in both directions at State Street.

It makes me wonder if one route is state maintained and the other is not. Or both are municipal roads, but Syracuse, unlike Albany, is somewhat better at signing routes than the capital is.

[Rothman]

Does NYSDOT maintain US 11 in Syracuse?  I ask because I see on GSV where the US route changes alignment on N. state Street to N. Salina Street there is lacking trailblazing. Ditto SB from N. Salina to N. State.

I see though NY 5 is signed where it changes alignments plus US 11 is signed from NY 5 in both directions at State Street.

It makes me wonder if one route is state maintained and the other is not. Or both are municipal roads, but Syracuse, unlike Albany, is somewhat better at signing routes than the capital is.

Yeah, the lack of signage for US 11 in that area has been a thorn in my side.  I'll ask around about it.

[Mr. Matté]

Having driven all of US 11 through Syracuse last month, at least where the random turns are (Raynor Avenue, Salina Street, Wolf Street) and some of the other state highway intersections, the route is signed. Per NYSDOT GIS data I downloaded last year, it's all city-maintained.

The city did put up the relatively-neat-for-NY signal street sign blades with route shields at NY 173 though:

[Roadgeek Adam]

That's a DOT design. R5 has them too.

[webny99]

The city did put up the relatively-neat-for-NY signal street sign blades with route shields at NY 173 though:

Those are nice, there's some in Auburn also. I do wish they were used more frequently.

[Roadgeek Adam]

NJs with the cardinal directions were and are vastly superior.

[webny99]

Personally, I don't mind the inclusion of cardinal directions, but it can be a lot of information to fit on a small sign, as shown here. The NJ 27 sign is great, but the Wood Ave one is a bit dense for my liking, and too close to the signal head. I'd like to see more ground-mounted "LGS" style signage at state route junctions (à la Washington, but with directions combined on a single line and any route destinations listed below).

[Buffaboy]

Having driven all of US 11 through Syracuse last month, at least where the random turns are (Raynor Avenue, Salina Street, Wolf Street) and some of the other state highway intersections, the route is signed. Per NYSDOT GIS data I downloaded last year, it's all city-maintained.

The city did put up the relatively-neat-for-NY signal street sign blades with route shields at NY 173 though:

I'm a fan of this new layout, but depending on the context I like side mounted blades. Particularly if you're in a city, like NY.

[Alps]

Personally, I don't mind the inclusion of cardinal directions, but it can be a lot of information to fit on a small sign, as shown here. The NJ 27 sign is great, but the Wood Ave one is a bit dense for my liking, and too close to the signal head. I'd like to see more ground-mounted "LGS" style signage at state route junctions (à la Washington, but with directions combined on a single line and any route destinations listed below).

the Wood Ave one is indeed too dense. I would have designed it with more room. You should see my signs. (:
https://goo.gl/maps/jPcmbMB1HnzM9dfX7

[machias]

I see our friends at NYSDOT Region 10 are putting a detour for US 135 out on Long Island.

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.BC_CONST_NOTICE_ADMIN.VIEWFILE?p_file_id=42125&p_is_digital=Y

They're also keeping it retro with some centered exit number tabs, so good for them.

[SignBridge]

The centered exit number tags are probably an error.

[Alps]

I see our friends at NYSDOT Region 10 are putting a detour for US 135 out on Long Island.

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.BC_CONST_NOTICE_ADMIN.VIEWFILE?p_file_id=42125&p_is_digital=Y

They're also keeping it retro with some centered exit number tabs, so good for them.

NYM5-1 isn't US 135. NYM5-1 is custom signs for parkways. A 135 shield would just be a straight "M" from the MUTCD. (M1-4 for US, M1-5 for state)

[dgolub]

The centered exit number tags are probably an error.

Exit 1E from the Seaford-Oyster Bay Expressway (NY 135) isn't an exit off to the right.  It's the highway straight ahead turning into an exit as it ends.  That's probably why they're using a centered tab.  There's currently signage there from circa 2013 that has a centered tab.  See https://www.eastcoastroads.com/states/ny/state/ny135/photogal/south#1.

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/iHJU5uoxYa74vx3SA
I-87 is an E-W running route?  The PIP Exit 9E guide shows it running East with I-287.

[Rothman]

https://goo.gl/maps/iHJU5uoxYa74vx3SA
I-87 is an E-W running route?  The PIP Exit 9E guide shows it running East with I-287.

Given the location, sure, why not?

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/iHJU5uoxYa74vx3SA
I-87 is an E-W running route?  The PIP Exit 9E guide shows it running East with I-287.

Given the location, sure, why not?

There is a newer sign that does use I-87 SB on the SB PIP and New York City over White Plains right at Exit 9E. 

Most of all I'm surprised that both NJ & NY agreed to raise the speed limit from 50 to 55 south of the Thruway as I see no more 50 mph signs South of Bardonia.

[astralentity]

So what's going on with the intersection of Upper Glen and Aviation/Quaker in Queensbury?

[vdeane]

So what's going on with the intersection of Upper Glen and Aviation/Quaker in Queensbury?

I think I remember hearing something about a water line break on the news.

[D-Dey65]

I see a large cluster of spotlight trailers gathered around the former Shenandoah Service Area on the Taconic State Parkway.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5467322,-73.7747536,3a,75y,1.63h,95.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiBnJzmn149A4_km3FP1-w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
NYSDOT Region 8 isn't planning to demolish the remains of the place, are they?

[The Ghostbuster]

When did the Shenandoah Service Area close? I assume it was a gas station-only service area.