Topic: I-265 Ohio River Bridge (Read 163565 times)

mgk920 · « **on:** March 06, 2012, 11:50:29 AM »

I note in an article in the local paper, the long-proposed I-265 Ohio River bridge (referred to as the 'East End bridge' in the article) is expected to open by 2017 as a toll bridge. Any more on this?

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120305/NEWS01/303050056?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150609838268462_21283458_10150609859483462

Mike

NE2 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:27:21 PM »

And then they can 86 64 :jumping:

hbelkins · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:54:57 PM »

Quote from: NE2 on March 06, 2012, 12:27:21 PM

And then they can 86 64 :jumping:

Only if they are absolute idiots.

ShawnP · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:35:36 AM »

Actually 64 will get more busy as folks shunpike the new downtown/east end/Kennedy tolls.

ShawnP · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:57:20 AM »

In tight austure budget times. I can understand tolling and will live with it. However my only worry is how long will the tolls be on. Kentucky has it written that once the bond is paid off. Then the tolls go off. Indiana can keep them on for infinity. So any toll sharing ideals on when they will go off? I don't want it to be 2046 (yes I will still be here to toture Liberals and U of L fans) and still paying tolls on a project that is paid off.

mgk920 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:59:08 AM »

Quote from: ShawnP on March 07, 2012, 08:35:36 AM

Actually 64 will get more busy as folks shunpike the new downtown/east end/Kennedy tolls.

The article is talking about a measly TWO DOLLARS toll for a transient car, and ONE DOLLAR for a commuter car. This is 2012, not 1952, here guys! You can't even get a decent lunch for less that seven or eight dollars now and cost of the time and fuel expended to 'shunpike' these crossings will be well in excess of those tolls.

BTW, when is construction expected to start on the I-265 bridge, if it has not already?

Mike

hbelkins · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2012, 02:26:55 PM »

Since Indiana's an E-ZPass state, I hope they use it for the tolls here.

Quote from: ShawnP on March 07, 2012, 10:57:20 AM

(yes I will still be here to toture Liberals and U of L fans)

Next time I am in Louisville, I will buy you a beer!

InterstateNG · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2012, 04:38:34 PM »

Quote from: ShawnP on March 07, 2012, 10:57:20 AM

In tight austure budget times. I can understand tolling and will live with it. However my only worry is how long will the tolls be on. Kentucky has it written that once the bond is paid off. Then the tolls go off. Indiana can keep them on for infinity. So any toll sharing ideals on when they will go off? I don't want it to be 2046 (yes I will still be here to toture Liberals and U of L fans) and still paying tolls on a project that is paid off.

If you're going to poison the well unprovoked, learn to spell.

ShawnP · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2012, 05:27:39 PM »

Quote from: hbelkins on March 07, 2012, 02:26:55 PM

Since Indiana's an E-ZPass state, I hope they use it for the tolls here.

Quote from: ShawnP on March 07, 2012, 10:57:20 AM
(yes I will still be here to toture Liberals and U of L fans)

Next time I am in Louisville, I will buy you a beer!

A sweet tea will do. I have been clean and sober since July 26, 2002. One at Rocky's..........

Fixed quote. - rmf67

ShawnP · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2012, 05:36:27 PM »

Looking like this fall. INDOT has some lettings out for demo on their side of river and Kentucky has bought their ROW and demo should start soon (neighbors want it NOW as Copper thieves have been making a racket in the area). I see Mitch Daniels wanting a ground breaking before he leaves next January. I have heard 2015 to 2018 for completion.

Quote from: mgk920 on March 07, 2012, 10:59:08 AM

Quote from: ShawnP on March 07, 2012, 08:35:36 AM
Actually 64 will get more busy as folks shunpike the new downtown/east end/Kennedy tolls.

The article is talking about a measly TWO DOLLARS toll for a transient car, and ONE DOLLAR for a commuter car. This is 2012, not 1952, here guys! You can't even get a decent lunch for less that seven or eight dollars now and cost of the time and fuel expended to 'shunpike' these crossings will be well in excess of those tolls.

BTW, when is construction expected to start on the I-265 bridge, if it has not already?

Mike

ShawnP · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2012, 08:34:10 AM »

50 plus years TOLLS. Grrrrrrrrrrrr

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120312/NEWS01/303110122/Bridges-tolls-may-last-long-past-2058?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home

cabiness42 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2012, 07:55:44 AM »

With gas at $4/gallon, $2 in round trip tolls on an East End Bridge would still not outweigh the gas savings for me, not to mention the time.

ShawnP · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:03:13 PM »

I don't mind paying for 30 years but 50 plus years. I have a feeling Tolls will never come of these bridges.

hbelkins · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2012, 09:48:01 AM »

This runs so counter to Kentucky's previous philosophy of removing the tolls after the construction bonds are paid off. I smell Indiana in this.

ShawnP · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:29:36 AM »

Yep HB and I would not be surprised to see Indiana "sell" their side soon. This has all the earmarkers of a Goat roaper.

ShawnP · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2012, 09:28:12 AM »

Oh nooooooooooo

There goes the east end bridge.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2012304030100

InterstateNG · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2012, 09:50:58 AM »

Are you really that daft? I mean, really?

mgk920 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:55:53 AM »

Heck, we have bald eagles nesting here in the downtown Appleton area - and they seem to be OK with all of the city activity that goes on around them....

Mike

qguy · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2012, 02:35:50 PM »

Quote from: mgk920 on April 05, 2012, 10:55:53 AM

Heck, we have bald eagles nesting here in the downtown Appleton area - and they seem to be OK with all of the city activity that goes on around them....

Indeed. There's a nesting pair of bald eagles here in Philadelphia—yes, within the city—about 200 yards from a major thoroughfare, and less than a half mile from I-95. If you know where to look (most don't), you can actually see the nest from the highway.

RoadWarrior56 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2012, 06:54:23 PM »

Maybe some environmentalists moved the eagles to be near the bridge.

NE2 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2012, 06:57:49 PM »

Maybe the eagles are environmentalists. Shoot the commies.

agentsteel53 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2012, 07:05:42 PM »

Clearly it is the eagles who moved the communists next to the environmentalists. they are preparing to drop the bridge on their heads.

codyg1985 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2012, 07:30:59 AM »

There is a nest of bald eagles...one of the largest IIRC...within a few miles of the launch pads at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

tdindy88 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2012, 10:08:13 AM »

Came across this last night, the blogger, originally from the Louisville area, did a mulit-part series about the Ohio River Bridges project and his claim that Hoosiers are being screwed over with the current deal. He then proposes some solutions to making the deal a bit better while still building the project, though it should be noted that he approves of 8664, so there's that too. In any case, maybe the eagles are trying to tell us something before we go into something that may not be good for those in Southern Indiana in the future.

http://www.urbanophile.com/2012/04/05/hoosiers-to-pay-80-of-local-tolls-for-ohio-river-bridges-project/

cabiness42 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2012, 12:05:49 PM »

The only people who genuinely get screwed are people who live in Clarksville and Jeffersonville and commute to downtown Louisville, because they will have to pay tolls on a bridge that already exists.

Anybody commuting to the East End gets their toll costs offset by the reduction in gas costs due to a new, more direct route, and people commuting to downtown Louisville from anyplace other than Clarksville and Jeffersonville can use I-64 as a free alternative without too much added travel time.

Also, if Hoosiers are paying 80% of the tolls, then that means that they are benefiting from 80% of the trips on the new bridge, and that blog doesn't go into the positive economic impact that Clark County should see from having the new bridge.

Is it the best deal for Indiana? No. Is it a better deal than not building the bridge at all? Absolutely.

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