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Title: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: thenetwork on July 19, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
There are a few places I have visited in my travels in which for one reason or another (usually because it was replaced by a finished, paralleling  interstate) a 4-lane, divided expressway was trimmed back to a regular 2-lane road. This usually involved using one half of the existing lanes.

And instead of the state's DOT removing the now-unused/abandoned paralleling lanes, they just let them sit there empty and not maintain them -- just place a few barricades or signs at each crossroad stating the road is closed to through traffic.

Illinois is notorious for this type of semi abandonment.  Case in point, here is a view of a semi-abandonment of US 40 just west of the Indiana State Line: (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2Fmaps%2F0dZi&hash=53cf94c2019eedbedb728798e878f1507c9ee3f0)http://goo.gl/maps/0dZi (http://goo.gl/maps/0dZi)


...and a former 4-lane divided ex-way on Old Route 66 near Pontiac, IL: (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2Fmaps%2F5FFt&hash=7044e64d115f17e8353dbc47e1b70570dcc2c505)http://goo.gl/maps/5FFt (http://goo.gl/maps/5FFt).


Just like the old BGSs on California Freeways, I like to think of this as not a cheap way to save money, but a preservation of the past.

What other states have gone the way of I-DOT and have left the remains of half of an abandoned expressway virtually intact while keeping the other half maintained as a regular 2-way road?
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: froggie on July 19, 2010, 07:09:53 PM
To be fair, there aren't very many cases of this style of abandonment to begin with.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 19, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
another 66 alignment is semi-abandoned: Cajon Blvd. between San Bernardino and Cajon Pass.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: TheStranger on July 19, 2010, 07:24:30 PM
Several I can think of immediately on the top of my head:

- Former US 66/91/395 (Cajon Boulevard) north of Devore, paralleling today's Interstate 15, which was co-signed with 66/91/395 in the 1960s  (which Jake noted above)

- former Route 401 east of Gananoque, Ontario...now the Thousand Islands Parkway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_Islands_Parkway

Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Alps on July 19, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
Two that come to mind right away:
Robert Moses Pkwy. in the Niagara Falls area, part of which was turned back to the park as a mixed-use path.
Former US 13, now accessed off DE 7 under US 1.

Part of VA 114 has the WB lanes closed due to an old truss bridge, while to the east the new WB lanes have been built and the EB lanes are being rehabbed.  Don't know what, if any, plan there is to replace the truss.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: PAHighways on July 20, 2010, 12:04:18 AM
The current alignment of OH 158 between I-70 and US 40 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kirkersville,+OH&sll=39.969227,-82.805328&sspn=0.285221,0.74913&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kirkersville,+Licking,+Ohio&ll=39.949572,-82.605332&spn=0.002245,0.005853&t=h&z=18) southwest of Kirkersville was a temporary alignment for I-70 before it was built west of OH 158.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: rawmustard on July 20, 2010, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 19, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
There are a few places I have visited in my travels in which for one reason or another (usually because it was replaced by a finished, paralleling  interstate) a 4-lane, divided expressway was trimmed back to a regular 2-lane road. This usually involved using one half of the existing lanes.

And instead of the state's DOT removing the now-unused/abandoned paralleling lanes, they just let them sit there empty and not maintain them -- just place a few barricades or signs at each crossroad stating the road is closed to through traffic.

Illinois is notorious for this type of semi abandonment.  Case in point, here is a view of a semi-abandonment of US 40 just west of the Indiana State Line: <snip links>

In the case of US 40 you mention, some of us have surmised that the newer alignment was simply built to the north to minimize traffic disruption. That portion was never intended to be four-laned, and as far as I'm concerned, that old brick alignment should be left alone, especially if it dates all the way back to the National Road's initial construction.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on July 22, 2010, 01:04:37 AM
Speaking of US 40, you can see some old abandoned 4 lane parts from I-70 between exits 202 and 204 in Eastern Ohio.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: US71 on July 22, 2010, 05:59:13 AM
There are several sections along old US 66 in Illinois.

In at least one case, the old SB lane of 66 became the new northbound lane of I-55 (north of Lexington, IIRC). But the part through town still has the extra lane intact though abandoned & overgrown.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: hm insulators on July 26, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
Many years ago, the main road between Pasadena and La Canada Flintridge, California was the Foothill Freeway, a short, stubby little four-laner not much more than three miles long. It was a part of California 118 which wound uncertainly from Pasadena almost out to Ventura via La Canada Flintridge, Tujunga, the north end of the San Fernando Valley and Simi Valley.

In the 1970s, I-210 was built through La Canada Flintridge and on down to Pasadena. Part of the old Foothill Freeway by La Canada High School was obliterated by the new 210, and the rest passing by Devil's Gate Dam was turned into an extension of Woodbury Road, a street running more or less along the Pasadena/Altadena border. The westernmost end of the old Foothill Freeway cum Woodbury Road was rerouted and hooked into the intersection of Oak Grove Drive and Berkshire Place just within the La Canada Flintridge city limits. The eastern half of California 118 disappeared completely and California 118 now ends at the I-210 in Pacoima.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 26, 2010, 05:07:16 PM
up until about 10 years ago, there used to be a 1950s white distance sign along that unused freeway alignment.

I certainly have never seen it hanging in anyone's living room  :-D
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: mapman1071 on August 15, 2010, 01:23:04 AM
The Former AZ153 Sky Harbor Expressway Is A 6 Lane "Freeway" that is being reduced to a 4 lane limited Access street "S 44th Street". The 2 Lanes removed are going to be used for Sky Harbor Airport Sky Train.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: mgk920 on August 15, 2010, 01:54:03 PM
Before the WI 29 bypass of Chippewa Falls, WI was built, WI 29's four lanes from the east (it was a fully interstate-compatible freeway in that area) ended at a *NASTY* trumpet interchange at WI 124 (old US 53) on Chippewa Fall's south side.  Its 'loop' ramp went from the WB WI 29 freeway to SB WI 124 and had a *NASTY* declining-radius turn - I nearly drove off of it the first time that I drove through it in the early 1980s.

Fast-forward to the late 1990s, WisDOT began construction on the WI 29 bypass freeway, with the new bypass freeway diverging from the old highway well east of that trumpet.  As part of that project, the old WI 29 freeway between a curiously-designed new interchange at the diverge (Seymour Cray Bd/WI 178) and WI 124 has been downgraded to a local major street and the trumpet was replaced with a roundabout.

See:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=44.920054,-91.373034&spn=0.017686,0.043945&t=h&z=15
The aerial image still shows the old trumpet interchange and the overlaid map shows the current configuration with the roundabout.

Mike
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: rickmastfan67 on August 15, 2010, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on August 15, 2010, 01:54:03 PM
See:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=44.920054,-91.373034&spn=0.017686,0.043945&t=h&z=15
The aerial image still shows the old trumpet interchange and the overlaid map shows the current configuration with the roundabout.

Mike

Wouldn't those extra ramps defeat the purpose of a roundabout?
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: english si on August 15, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
the roundabout deals with the left-turns.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Revive 755 on August 16, 2010, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: PAHighways on July 20, 2010, 12:04:18 AM
The current alignment of OH 158 between I-70 and US 40 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kirkersville,+OH&sll=39.969227,-82.805328&sspn=0.285221,0.74913&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kirkersville,+Licking,+Ohio&ll=39.949572,-82.605332&spn=0.002245,0.005853&t=h&z=18) southwest of Kirkersville was a temporary alignment for I-70 before it was built west of OH 158.

Interesting.  I don't suppose ODOT was at one time thinking of simply upgrading the existing US 40 west of OH 158 instead of a new I-70 alignment?  It just seems like an awfully expensive and high-powered temporary connector.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: seicer on December 22, 2020, 07:46:16 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fqj9bkC8zfQxG5ce8

This section of four-lane National Route 1 in South Korea has been bypassed with a six-lane bypass. Portions of the old alignment are now a ... garden.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Henry on December 22, 2020, 07:51:32 PM
The infamous Highway to Nowhere comes to mind. Of course, the western parts of that freeway are no longer there.

https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/md/us_40/170.html
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: SkyPesos on December 22, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
Most of the examples I can think of already got mentioned, so I'll mention an expressway that I'm suprised haven't got semi-abandoned yet: US 40 between Springfield and Columbus, Ohio (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9385292,-83.3902075,3a,75y,263.4h,79.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s74Iq2CD2e8FZC56Zc7JheQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Of course it justified being an expressway pre-Interstate era, but with I-70 paralling it a mile up north, it pretty much handles local traffic only now, with through traffic using the 6-lane I-70.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: ztonyg on December 22, 2020, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 16, 2010, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: PAHighways on July 20, 2010, 12:04:18 AM
The current alignment of OH 158 between I-70 and US 40 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kirkersville,+OH&sll=39.969227,-82.805328&sspn=0.285221,0.74913&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kirkersville,+Licking,+Ohio&ll=39.949572,-82.605332&spn=0.002245,0.005853&t=h&z=18) southwest of Kirkersville was a temporary alignment for I-70 before it was built west of OH 158.

Interesting.  I don't suppose ODOT was at one time thinking of simply upgrading the existing US 40 west of OH 158 instead of a new I-70 alignment?  It just seems like an awfully expensive and high-powered temporary connector.

That looks like it was intended to be mainline I-70. I'm curious where I-70 was intended to go (continue going NW to the I-670 corridor perhaps?)
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: SkyPesos on December 22, 2020, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: ztonyg on December 22, 2020, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 16, 2010, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: PAHighways on July 20, 2010, 12:04:18 AM
The current alignment of OH 158 between I-70 and US 40 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kirkersville,+OH&sll=39.969227,-82.805328&sspn=0.285221,0.74913&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kirkersville,+Licking,+Ohio&ll=39.949572,-82.605332&spn=0.002245,0.005853&t=h&z=18) southwest of Kirkersville was a temporary alignment for I-70 before it was built west of OH 158.

Interesting.  I don't suppose ODOT was at one time thinking of simply upgrading the existing US 40 west of OH 158 instead of a new I-70 alignment?  It just seems like an awfully expensive and high-powered temporary connector.

That looks like it was intended to be mainline I-70. I'm curious where I-70 was intended to go (continue going NW to the I-670 corridor perhaps?)
It was only a temporary western termius for I-70. The section of I-70 west from Exit 122 to Columbus was still being built when that stub existed.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: 3467 on December 22, 2020, 07:55:49 PM
Illinois has a number of 2 lanes on 4 lane right of way. It was state policy In.  the sixties and later the feds supported it for a while. Then it became rate but still happens. The 2 lane freeway bypass of Macomb has the ROW.
US 50 from Lebanon to Carlyle. It is going to get a connector the Lebanon bypass and much of 50 East of 57.
US 34 Galesburg to Wataga.
US 24 Washington bypass

There are probably others
Then there are those that were completed
A section of US 34 East of Monmouth and US 67 North of Macomb.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: ilpt4u on December 22, 2020, 07:56:48 PM
The partially upgraded, then abandoned 2nd carriageway sections of US 50 across Illinois, from when it was originally slated to be I-64

I can list specific spots, if necessary. There are multiple.
One near Flora, IL: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6804917,-88.5137337,3a,90y,355.47h,74.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFE4yp8OGg5JE3GH_wtH8sA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Another between Breese and Carlyle, where the 2nd carriageway's bridge over a creek was even built, then abandonded: https://goo.gl/maps/jtJBz4RMFtNVQtxE7
West of Breese, another 2nd carriageway constructed then abandonded creek bridge: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6151085,-89.5842801,3a,40.9y,200.3h,87.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNkMGnORpHMUscZTBmfmifA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

For humor's sake, there is always IL I-180...  :sombrero:
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 22, 2020, 07:57:31 PM
Given this thread got dug up I should note that Cajon Boulevard (US 66/91/395) has been since partially restored to a two-lane through route.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 22, 2020, 09:48:04 PM
Returning to the theme of pre-Interstate expressways that were bypassed, here's Homestead Valley Road, former US 10, bypassed by modern Interstate 90.  As seen in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me.  Bing Maps view. (https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=7eba43f9-c099-49da-8354-93e9d1422bb3&cp=47.435856~-121.657104&lvl=18.872946&dir=118.04244&pi=1.6845561&style=x&mo=z.1.28&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027)
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: 3467 on December 23, 2020, 12:51:17 AM
I thought about 180 I finally found its real history in the 1970 GAO report.
It may have reached a new low on traffic 1775 online segment. The first counts on the Macomb bypass are 1600
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: planxtymcgillicuddy on December 26, 2020, 11:32:45 PM
Florida has several of this along US-301. Saw some of it for myself coming back the last time. Was a 4-laner at one time, but had been scaled back to 2
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: democratic nole on December 27, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: planxtymcgillicuddy on December 26, 2020, 11:32:45 PM
Florida has several of this along US-301. Saw some of it for myself coming back the last time. Was a 4-laner at one time, but had been scaled back to 2
What part of Florida did you see this?
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: hockeyjohn on December 27, 2020, 05:36:00 PM
Chris Bessert's "Michigan Highways" website details US-131 between Mancelona and Elmira, Mich. when a divided highway between 1956-1968 (except during winter when it "reverted" to being a two-lane highway).   The pavement for the second set of lanes has long been removed but the former alignment is visible between the highway and the railway tracks.

https://goo.gl/maps/6yKyCUosaKqYgvbM7 (https://goo.gl/maps/6yKyCUosaKqYgvbM7)

A number of non-MDOT issued maps showed this stretch as a divided, 4-lane highway long after 1968.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: ozarkman417 on December 27, 2020, 06:58:46 PM
If I'm understanding this right, would this (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6155544,-89.6311196,621a,35y,3.94h,6.03t/data=!3m1!1e3) cancelled US 50 4-laner count?
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: planxtymcgillicuddy on December 27, 2020, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: democratic nole on December 27, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: planxtymcgillicuddy on December 26, 2020, 11:32:45 PM
Florida has several of this along US-301. Saw some of it for myself coming back the last time. Was a 4-laner at one time, but had been scaled back to 2
What part of Florida did you see this?

We were on 301 between Leesburg, FL and Jesup, GA
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: seicer on December 27, 2020, 08:52:58 PM
I think that was a realignment that tied into bridge replacements, but I'm not for sure 100%.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: democratic nole on December 28, 2020, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: planxtymcgillicuddy on December 27, 2020, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: democratic nole on December 27, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: planxtymcgillicuddy on December 26, 2020, 11:32:45 PM
Florida has several of this along US-301. Saw some of it for myself coming back the last time. Was a 4-laner at one time, but had been scaled back to 2
What part of Florida did you see this?

We were on 301 between Leesburg, FL and Jesup, GA
That's a fairly lengthy distance. I know that the state has been adding bypass routes for 301 around towns like Starke, FL, so maybe it has something to do with these, but I'd be curious the exact location, because I have driven 301 from Ocala to I-10 a good bit and am not familiar with the sections you are talking about.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: nexus73 on December 28, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
I recall a bit of US 66 expressway with very little traffic on it due to being bypassed by I-40 in either Texas or Oklahoma.  Sorry I cannot remember the exact location.  A few farmers and houses were it for human presence as the short divided 4-lane stretch headed into a small town.  Very forlorn in appearance for sure.

Rick
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: seicer on December 28, 2020, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on December 28, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
I recall a bit of US 66 expressway with very little traffic on it due to being bypassed by I-40 in either Texas or Oklahoma.  Sorry I cannot remember the exact location.  A few farmers and houses were it for human presence as the short divided 4-lane stretch headed into a small town.  Very forlorn in appearance for sure.

Like this very narrow four-lane at Erick OK?

https://goo.gl/maps/sXdwmqe3nHArwRQz6
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: US71 on December 28, 2020, 10:57:43 PM
US 60 around Aurora, MO

Back in the 1960's/70's, it was 4-lanes/divided about half a mile either side of MO 39. Later the EB lanes were abandoned, though part of it is now used for commuter parking.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9476664,-93.7206595,448m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Scott5114 on December 28, 2020, 11:47:25 PM
Quote from: seicer on December 28, 2020, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on December 28, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
I recall a bit of US 66 expressway with very little traffic on it due to being bypassed by I-40 in either Texas or Oklahoma.  Sorry I cannot remember the exact location.  A few farmers and houses were it for human presence as the short divided 4-lane stretch headed into a small town.  Very forlorn in appearance for sure.

Like this very narrow four-lane at Erick OK?

https://goo.gl/maps/sXdwmqe3nHArwRQz6

I need to go check that out...
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: nexus73 on December 29, 2020, 02:56:13 PM
Quote from: seicer on December 28, 2020, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on December 28, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
I recall a bit of US 66 expressway with very little traffic on it due to being bypassed by I-40 in either Texas or Oklahoma.  Sorry I cannot remember the exact location.  A few farmers and houses were it for human presence as the short divided 4-lane stretch headed into a small town.  Very forlorn in appearance for sure.

Like this very narrow four-lane at Erick OK?

https://goo.gl/maps/sXdwmqe3nHArwRQz6

Maybe that was it, maybe not but it was spooky to see a semi-abandoned expressway.

Rick
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: ftballfan on December 30, 2020, 09:18:06 AM
UT 118 appears to have been four lane divided at one point between Salina and Elsinore: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8135572,-112.0100155,871m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Dirt Roads on December 30, 2020, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: ftballfan on December 30, 2020, 09:18:06 AM
UT 118 appears to have been four lane divided at one point between Salina and Elsinore: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8135572,-112.0100155,871m/data=!3m1!1e3

That looks like an abandoned railroad running alongside UT-118 and UT-24.  You can see the rail line split from UT-24 at the coal mine before Salina.  Can't find much about the line, but a website for the history of Salina, Utah indicates that the infamous Thistle Flood in 1983-84 wiped out the railroad.  Following the line further north to the ghost town of Thistle, the Spanish Fork Canyon was home to the Denver and Rio Grande (D&RG) Utah Division.  So I suspect that the abandoned rail line was the former Sevier Valley Railway, which was gobbled up by the D&RG. 
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: dkblake on December 30, 2020, 11:25:05 AM
I-189 at the western end at US 7- if you're going WB, the highway bears slight right to the exit, and the straight corridor is abandoned- you can see the dirt path there:

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4482921,-73.2050576,3a,75y,282.16h,103.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNzt47LrleVXeoOBeSqGakA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The abandoned section has become sort of a bike path.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: bing101 on December 30, 2020, 11:29:36 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/ (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/)

Bakersfield has a semi abandoned expressway called Alfred Harrell Highway. Note this is a city route.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 30, 2020, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 30, 2020, 11:29:36 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/ (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/)

Bakersfield has a semi abandoned expressway called Alfred Harrell Highway. Note this is a city route.

Alfred Harrell is far from abandoned, it sees significant traffic all the time. 
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: US71 on December 30, 2020, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 28, 2020, 11:47:25 PM
Quote from: seicer on December 28, 2020, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on December 28, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
I recall a bit of US 66 expressway with very little traffic on it due to being bypassed by I-40 in either Texas or Oklahoma.  Sorry I cannot remember the exact location.  A few farmers and houses were it for human presence as the short divided 4-lane stretch headed into a small town.  Very forlorn in appearance for sure.

Like this very narrow four-lane at Erick OK?

https://goo.gl/maps/sXdwmqe3nHArwRQz6

I need to go check that out...

There are a couple sections out that way if you know where to look and don't rush,
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: bing101 on December 30, 2020, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 30, 2020, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 30, 2020, 11:29:36 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/ (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/)

Bakersfield has a semi abandoned expressway called Alfred Harrell Highway. Note this is a city route.

Alfred Harrell is far from abandoned, it sees significant traffic all the time.
It's just that I seen some pictures of the Highway but at the time of the photo it looked like it was off peak hours or weekends.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 30, 2020, 09:53:53 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 30, 2020, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 30, 2020, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 30, 2020, 11:29:36 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/ (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/)

Bakersfield has a semi abandoned expressway called Alfred Harrell Highway. Note this is a city route.

Alfred Harrell is far from abandoned, it sees significant traffic all the time.
It's just that I seen some pictures of the Highway but at the time of the photo it looked like it was off peak hours or weekends.

Golden State Boulevard in Fresno County is more in line what you're looking for.  It is a segment of Old US 99 and in really bad shape in places.  The traffic count is low enough that the county never really has gotten around to patching any of it up after the 1960s.  There is even a small freeway segment in Fresno approaching CA 99/CA 41.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: bing101 on December 31, 2020, 12:49:37 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 30, 2020, 09:53:53 PM
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https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/ (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/alfred-harrell-hwy/)

Bakersfield has a semi abandoned expressway called Alfred Harrell Highway. Note this is a city route.

Alfred Harrell is far from abandoned, it sees significant traffic all the time.
It's just that I seen some pictures of the Highway but at the time of the photo it looked like it was off peak hours or weekends.

Golden State Boulevard in Fresno County is more in line what you're looking for.  It is a segment of Old US 99 and in really bad shape in places.  The traffic count is low enough that the county never really has gotten around to patching any of it up after the 1960s.  There is even a small freeway segment in Fresno approaching CA 99/CA 41.
Thanks!
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: capt.ron on December 31, 2020, 12:23:00 PM
The stretch of old US 66 just east of Albuquerque in the Carnuel area is still a nice 4 lane divided highway. I'm still surprised NMDOT still has it configured as 4 lanes since 2 lanes through that area is all it needs. Some more "semi abandoned" areas of old 66 that are 4 lane are around the Grants / Milan area and yet another short 4 lane stub around the Laguna area.
Title: Re: "Semi-Abandoned" Expressways
Post by: TEG24601 on December 31, 2020, 01:07:16 PM
Old US24/35 around Logansport, IN - https://goo.gl/maps/hFmgo2PRdfTZeNgS8 - now known as Monticello Rd, having been bypassed to connect to the new SR 25 expressway (The Hoosier Heartland Highway).  The section that was bypassed, has existed in some form since at least 1981 (the first time it appears in HistoricAerials).