Did I-515 in Las Vegas become I-11?

[mgk920]

I also took a few months for WisDOT to place the 'I-41' signs in the wild after it became 'official'.

Mike

[Rothman]

Can't have been on a route that wasn't there...

You can't be on a route as it's just a bureaucratic fiction; it is a pointer to a physical road. You're on the road, not the route. And the road is the same.

Or...  A road is a type of route.  A route is the way you get from A to B.  But are we clinching numerical designations?

Yes.

[kphoger]

Can't have been on a route that wasn't there...

You can't be on a route as it's just a bureaucratic fiction; it is a pointer to a physical road. You're on the road, not the route. And the road is the same.

Or...  A road is a type of route.  A route is the way you get from A to B.  But are we clinching numerical designations?

Yes.

Is there any state whose routes are not legislatively defined?  I have a vague memory that someone mentioned one in a different thread, but not which state it may have been.

[Max Rockatansky]

I made the argument in an offline chat that the "sign route" designation is only real as the observer gives it merit.  The example used was recently relinquished NV 121 (deleted 2021).  To me it has just as much merit as an actively signed route does if not more now.  At least now I can ask myself the question "why was NV 121 there to begin with?"  I tend to find those answers to way more interesting to look into than actively signed modern routes. 

But then again, this hobby is what one makes of it.  If one wants to hang on TM and only clinch actively signed/state maintained highways good on them.  It still doesn't make a lot of sense "to me" to go revisit a road for the sole purpose of driving it again because the sign route number changed.

[Scott5114]

Can't have been on a route that wasn't there...

You can't be on a route as it's just a bureaucratic fiction; it is a pointer to a physical road. You're on the road, not the route. And the road is the same.

Or...  A road is a type of route.  A route is the way you get from A to B.  But are we clinching numerical designations?

Yes.

Is there any state whose routes are not legislatively defined?  I have a vague memory that someone mentioned one in a different thread, but not which state it may have been.

They're not legislatively defined in Oklahoma—route numbering is done under authority of the Transportation Commission, which is part of the executive branch. I believe Texas has a similar structure.

[jeffandnicole]

Can't have been on a route that wasn't there...

You can't be on a route as it's just a bureaucratic fiction; it is a pointer to a physical road. You're on the road, not the route. And the road is the same.

Or...  A road is a type of route.  A route is the way you get from A to B.  But are we clinching numerical designations?

Yes.

Is there any state whose routes are not legislatively defined?  I have a vague memory that someone mentioned one in a different thread, but not which state it may have been.

NJ has written legislative routes, many of which were last updated in the 1930's, 1940's and 1950's. Many if not most don't match their actual current routing.

https://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates&fn=default.htm&vid=Publish:10.1048/Enu

Using one example, NJ Route 55's northern terminus is with NJ Route 42 in Deptford, NJ.  However, per its definition, the northern terminus was supposed to be US 130 in Westville, which would be close to or exactly where NJ 45 meets US 130. I've never seen a map showing such a proposed routing.

[hotdogPi]

Is there any state whose routes are not legislatively defined?  I have a vague memory that someone mentioned one in a different thread, but not which state it may have been.

Massachusetts

EDIT: This is probably the answer to the question below.

[kphoger]

OK, poor word choice.  I thought I remembered someone mentioning a state where, basically, signage alone is your guide to what's a state route and what's not.

[NE2]

OK, poor word choice.  I thought I remembered someone mentioning a state where, basically, signage alone is your guide to what's a state route and what's not.

Rhode Island?

[Alps]

This is going off topic

[Henry]

All I can say is it will be a matter of time before I-515 becomes history and I-11 takes over...if it hasn't happened already.

[cl94]

All I can say is it will be a matter of time before I-515 becomes history and I-11 takes over...if it hasn't happened already.

Calm yo' horses, because it hasn't happened yet. But it will soon.

[roadfro]

Cross-posting from the main I-11 thread...

NDOT is holding a public meeting on 11/30 to discuss a feasibility study for upgrades to US 95 between Kyle Canyon and Mercury (News Release). But check this little nugget in the last paragraph (emphasis added):

In 2022, highway authorities pinpointed the preferred route for Interstate 11 through the Las Vegas Valley. This route will utilize I-515 and U.S. 95, traversing Clark County between Henderson and Kyle Canyon. The official process of renaming and resigning those freeways is slated to begin in early 2024.

[The Ghostbuster]

It would not be difficult to upgrade US 95 into Interstate 11 between NV 157 and Mercury Hwy. I assume the Indian Springs Bypass will be a short one, since the town's population is just under 1,000.

[pderocco]

I wonder if they'd just take the land adjacent to US-95, and turn it into a freeway with frontage roads. As opposed to putting a big loop south of the town.

[roadfro]

It would not be difficult to upgrade US 95 into Interstate 11 between NV 157 and Mercury Hwy. I assume the Indian Springs Bypass will be a short one, since the town's population is just under 1,000.

I wonder if they'd just take the land adjacent to US-95, and turn it into a freeway with frontage roads. As opposed to putting a big loop south of the town.

There's already two-way frontage roads on both sides of the highway in Indian Springs. Since Creech AFB has gobbled up any private land on the north side, the northern frontage road no longer has any useful purpose—the only thing accessing it is the former main gate into Creech, which is now unused. So there is a bit of room to work with potentially upgrading US 95 in place, although it might need to be depressed to do it.