US Route sections replaced by State Routes for through traffic

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Dirt Roads

Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 26, 2021, 08:19:14 PM
Not sure how much this actually gets utilized, but WV-10 and WV-80 is still a much shorter and slightly faster route between Huntington and Gilbert, West Virginia than US-52.

Quote from: hbelkins on September 26, 2021, 08:40:52 PM
WV 65 between Naugatuck and Delbarton instead of US 52 through Williamson.

That's exactly what locals did if they didn't need to stop in Williamson.  When I was growing up, the part between Belo and Delbarton was WV-65 Spur.  But it was all WV-65 back in the old days. Sounds like a theme for a new thread.


thspfc

M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.

US 89

In Alabama, SR 169 is about 10 miles shorter and 10 minutes faster than US 431 between Seale and Opelika.

Former example in Utah: US 6 between Spanish Fork and Moark Junction, where US 6 was on its original route and SR 214 was the expressway from the mouth of the canyon down to I-15. In the mid 1990s, US 6 was moved onto that expressway and a concurrency with I-15, while the old alignment became SR 198.

Flint1979

Quote from: thspfc on September 26, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.
That makes more logical sense since US-141 goes in a more direct route. US-41 looks like it goes all over the place and is 278 miles which seems like a lot for a N-S route in the U.P.

DandyDan

IA 9 and IA 51 looks like a faster set of roads than US 52 for getting from Decorah to Postville in Iowa. Actually, there may be a county road that makes it even faster.
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DE 1 for US 13 from Dover on north.

In the future once the CSVT is complete, PA 147 (along with I-180 further north) will accomplish this for US 15 around Lewisburg.
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hbelkins

Quote from: thspfc on September 26, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.

Another UP example -- it's shorter and to jog over to M-28 than to follow US 2 all the way if you're driving from I-75 to Ironwood, or vice versa.


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roadman65

US 301 replaced by the Starke Bypass sort of. It never got official approval by AASHTO, so it's really a state designation.
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US 89

It's not a signed state route, but the Garden State Parkway (NJ 444) is essentially the replacement for US 9 through much of NJ. Same deal for the Atlantic City Expressway (NJ 446) and US 30.

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Functionally Florida's Turnpike has replaced US 441 between Orlando and Miami. 

GaryV

Quote from: hbelkins on September 27, 2021, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: thspfc on September 26, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.

Another UP example -- it's shorter and to jog over to M-28 than to follow US 2 all the way if you're driving from I-75 to Ironwood, or vice versa.

And another one.  It's shorter to take M-69 from Crystal Falls to Escanaba than to use US-2.

Flint1979

Quote from: hbelkins on September 27, 2021, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: thspfc on September 26, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.

Another UP example -- it's shorter and to jog over to M-28 than to follow US 2 all the way if you're driving from I-75 to Ironwood, or vice versa.
Yeah but you don't stay on M-28 the entire way after you reach it either. M-94 comes in and joins M-28 in Shingleton on the west end of the Seney Stretch. Before you get to Munising you would continue to follow M-94 west to US-41 north to CR-480 west. This bypasses Munising and Marquette and you rejoin M-28 in Negaunee. It actually adds on a mile to do that but is 7 minutes quicker.

hbelkins

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 28, 2021, 07:53:58 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 27, 2021, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: thspfc on September 26, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.

Another UP example -- it's shorter and to jog over to M-28 than to follow US 2 all the way if you're driving from I-75 to Ironwood, or vice versa.
Yeah but you don't stay on M-28 the entire way after you reach it either. M-94 comes in and joins M-28 in Shingleton on the west end of the Seney Stretch. Before you get to Munising you would continue to follow M-94 west to US-41 north to CR-480 west. This bypasses Munising and Marquette and you rejoin M-28 in Negaunee. It actually adds on a mile to do that but is 7 minutes quicker.

We used M-28 the whole way. All those roundabouts on the downtown Marquette bypass don't help with the travel time, for sure.


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Bitmapped

Lots of cases in Pennsylvania:

  • Before the new Somerset-Meyersdale section of US 219 opened in SW PA, PA 653 and Garrett Shortcut Road (SR 2031) were preferred for cars over US 219. It's much shorter and aside from a steep grade into Garrett, much straighter and flatter than old US 219.
  • PA 43/WV 43 (Mon-Fayette Expressway), with a bit of I-68, are preferred over US 119 between Morgantown, WV and Uniontown, PA.
  • PA Turnpike 66 and US 22 are favored over US 119 around Greensburg.
  • PA 59 over US 6 between Warren and Smethport. Shorter distance and avoids towns, although there is some tourist traffic around Kinzua Dam.
  • PA 64 over US 220 between I-80 and Mill Hall area. Shorter routing.
  • PA 965 over US 62 between Jackson Center and Polk. More direct and avoids going through Sandy Lake.
  • OH 85/PA 285 over US 6 near Pymatuning Lake. State routes cut across the lake, but US 6 goes out of its way around it.

Another WV entry for good measure:

  • WV 28/WV 42/WV 93 are preferred over US 220 for through traffic between Petersburg and Keyser. It's a shorter alignment. Even throwing Patterson Creek Road into the mix, either between WV 42 and Corridor H or the full way up to US 50, is better than US 220.






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Has anyone mentioned CO-17 over US285 in southern Colorado?
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fillup420

Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 26, 2021, 08:32:24 PM
Also, NC-86 is preferred over US-421 between Sanford and Wilmington, North Carolina (not much different in time and distance).  However, if you take US-421 to NC-27 (which keeps going as NC-50), you can cut over to I-40 and run the route in about the same time as well.  NC-86 works better if you are headed for Southport and Oak Island, whereas I-40 works better if you are headed for Wrightsville or Topsail.  Not much difference in time for those going to downtown Wilmington or on further to Carolina Beach or Kure (but I-40 is about 15 miles longer).
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Flint1979

Quote from: hbelkins on September 28, 2021, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 28, 2021, 07:53:58 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 27, 2021, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: thspfc on September 26, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
M-35 is faster than US-41 between Escanaba and Menominee. US-41 in Michigan in general just makes no sense, it should take over US-141's routing between US-141's northern terminus and Abrams, WI, with current US-41 between Abrams and US-141's northern terminus becoming state routes.

Another UP example -- it's shorter and to jog over to M-28 than to follow US 2 all the way if you're driving from I-75 to Ironwood, or vice versa.
Yeah but you don't stay on M-28 the entire way after you reach it either. M-94 comes in and joins M-28 in Shingleton on the west end of the Seney Stretch. Before you get to Munising you would continue to follow M-94 west to US-41 north to CR-480 west. This bypasses Munising and Marquette and you rejoin M-28 in Negaunee. It actually adds on a mile to do that but is 7 minutes quicker.

We used M-28 the whole way. All those roundabouts on the downtown Marquette bypass don't help with the travel time, for sure.
That's fine too it just adds about 7-10 minutes to the drive. That's why it's easier just to bypass Marquette if your destination isn't in Marquette.

achilles765

I may be misunderstanding the question, but I think one could count Texas SH 75..its essentially the old route of US 75 and replaced it south of Dallas where IH 45 took over...
Also there's a SH 81 along IH 35 that replaced US 81
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bugo

OK 112 from Poteau to Pocola is faster and shorter than US 271.

AR 51 used to be shorter than US 270 between Hot Springs and Malvern until they flip flopped the designations in 1986.

IL 336 is quicker between Tennessee and Macomb than US 136.

ran4sh

Another Carolina example is NC/SC 177 (using a short stretch of SC 9) being a shorter route than US 1 (between Southern Pines/Aberdeen NC and Cheraw SC)

In Georgia GA 172 (including part of GA 72) is shorter than US 29 (between Athens and Hartwell)
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